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In fact, here's a link for you.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Take a good look at the paragraph on belief disconfirmation paradigm
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When is proof justifiable? I would think that if there was no Planet X, there would be no Nancy,
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

Are you serious? There was no UFO behind Comet Hale-Bopp but there was still Marshall Applewhite who convinced members of his Heaven's Gate cult to all commit suicide. You really are stupid and naive.

No debunker thread
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

Ah, there's that wonderful circular logic you're so well known for: people disagreeing with Nancy is proof that she's right. Well, using your logic, if there was really a "Planet X" she wouldn't need to ban people from her site that disagreed with her. She wouldn't even need a site at all for that matter and you wouldn't need to defend her so much.

Anyone with a IQ uver six can see that the official reason is CO2 does not fly because CO2 gas is heavier than air and plants would die without it and we die too.
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

Again - you are stupid. Air is composed of numerous gasses (78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.039% carbon dioxide, and small amounts of other gases) which we all breathe. But our bodies ONLY use the oxygen component of it. That said - you still haven't presented anything that shows CO2 does NOT cause warming.

The Zetas have explained that it is true the reason Nancy killed her dog
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

Oh, so Nancy killed her dog because of rising CO2 levels? I'm confused because you just contradicted yourself. Besides, I thought Nancy killed her dog because she was convinced that the "pole shift" was going to happen in May 2003.

and advise others to do it was convincing enough at the time of the white lie a most effective tool to get Bush started rather quickly into his lost war in Iraq, which the Zetas predicted he would lose.
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

Wow, you continue to prove how stupid you are. First off, the U.S. and Allied Forces didn't lose the war in Iraq. Iraq was defeated quite quickly. Where were you? Hiding with your head in the sand because you thought the "pole shift" was about to happen? Second, the "white lie" is just a bullshit excuse. The "Zetas" said themselves that they gave out the date of the "pole shift" because Nancy had been successful in spreading the word and, because of it, the U.S. and Indonesian governments would fail at their attempts to enslave the "common man." Care to try again?

The Zetas are quite smart..
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

And yet they can't do a simple multiplication problem on a live radio program...or tell when Nancy is interpreting their message incorrectly...or is using terms incorrectly like RA and DEC. Next!

But the accomplishment by the Zetas is all we have.
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

And what accomplishments are those? Hmmm, let's see...

"Pole Shift" on May 15, 2003 - FAIL
"Pole Shift" on May 27, 2003 - FAIL
"Pole Shift" by June 1, 2003 - FAIL
"Pole Shift" within "weeks NOT months" as stated on July 21, 2003 on Coast to Coast AM - FAIL
"No need to pay October's bills" because of the "Pole Shift" as stated in September 2003 - FAIL
"Pole Shift" around the holidays 2003 - FAIL
Earth halted in orbit - FAIL
"Dark Twin" to collide with Earth in June 2004 - FAIL
Adam Airlines flight 574 crashed in an inland lake - FAIL
Air France flight crashed because of "magnetic rift" - FAIL
"Planet X" will be here by September 2007 (your prediction) - FAIL
"2012 is too far out" for the "Pole Shift" - FAIL
Obama will announce presence of "Planet X" in September 2012 - FAIL
Obama will announce presence of "Planet X" in October 2012 - FAIL

So, tell us Free Store...what accomplishments were you talking about?
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Ad hominem noted. So you don't want to admit the horror of her instruction? That is understandable. Cognitive dissonance, look it up.
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Free Store never answers questions because he knows that if he were to actually research something he's actually learn he was wrong and his whole belief system would be shattered.
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Ad hominem noted. So you don't want to admit the horror of her instruction? That is understandable. Cognitive dissonance, look it up.
 Quoting: Elemental


Free Store never answers questions because he knows that if he were to actually research something he's actually learn he was wrong and his whole belief system would be shattered.
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That's a really sad & frightening thought.
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This is a guy who has watched every one of Nancy's "Pole Shift" dates fail and yet, without any proof whatsoever, continues to believe whatever she says. Another poster here claimed that Free Store was married with kids. Supposedly, she left him (with the kids in tow) after the "pole shift" failed to happen and Free Store refused to give up on his delusion. Which is why I have this smilie:

free
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This is a guy who has watched every one of Nancy's "Pole Shift" dates fail and yet, without any proof whatsoever, continues to believe whatever she says. Another poster here claimed that Free Store was married with kids. Supposedly, she left him (with the kids in tow) after the "pole shift" failed to happen and Free Store refused to give up on his delusion. Which is why I have this smilie:

:free:
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It's just barking mad. Barking.

Anyway, I'm off; things to do! Laters!
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When is proof justifiable? I would think that if there was no Planet X, there would be no Nancy,
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

Are you serious? There was no UFO behind Comet Hale-Bopp but there was still Marshall Applewhite who convinced members of his Heaven's Gate cult to all commit suicide. You really are stupid and naive.

No debunker thread
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

Ah, there's that wonderful circular logic you're so well known for: people disagreeing with Nancy is proof that she's right. Well, using your logic, if there was really a "Planet X" she wouldn't need to ban people from her site that disagreed with her. She wouldn't even need a site at all for that matter and you wouldn't need to defend her so much.

Anyone with a IQ uver six can see that the official reason is CO2 does not fly because CO2 gas is heavier than air and plants would die without it and we die too.
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

Again - you are stupid. Air is composed of numerous gasses (78.09% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.039% carbon dioxide, and small amounts of other gases) which we all breathe. But our bodies ONLY use the oxygen component of it. That said - you still haven't presented anything that shows CO2 does NOT cause warming.

The Zetas have explained that it is true the reason Nancy killed her dog
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

Oh, so Nancy killed her dog because of rising CO2 levels? I'm confused because you just contradicted yourself. Besides, I thought Nancy killed her dog because she was convinced that the "pole shift" was going to happen in May 2003.

and advise others to do it was convincing enough at the time of the white lie a most effective tool to get Bush started rather quickly into his lost war in Iraq, which the Zetas predicted he would lose.
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

Wow, you continue to prove how stupid you are. First off, the U.S. and Allied Forces didn't lose the war in Iraq. Iraq was defeated quite quickly. Where were you? Hiding with your head in the sand because you thought the "pole shift" was about to happen? Second, the "white lie" is just a bullshit excuse. The "Zetas" said themselves that they gave out the date of the "pole shift" because Nancy had been successful in spreading the word and, because of it, the U.S. and Indonesian governments would fail at their attempts to enslave the "common man." Care to try again?

The Zetas are quite smart..
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

And yet they can't do a simple multiplication problem on a live radio program...or tell when Nancy is interpreting their message incorrectly...or is using terms incorrectly like RA and DEC. Next!

But the accomplishment by the Zetas is all we have.
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

And what accomplishments are those? Hmmm, let's see...

"Pole Shift" on May 15, 2003 - FAIL
"Pole Shift" on May 27, 2003 - FAIL
"Pole Shift" by June 1, 2003 - FAIL
"Pole Shift" within "weeks NOT months" as stated on July 21, 2003 on Coast to Coast AM - FAIL
"No need to pay October's bills" because of the "Pole Shift" as stated in September 2003 - FAIL
"Pole Shift" around the holidays 2003 - FAIL
Earth halted in orbit - FAIL
"Dark Twin" to collide with Earth in June 2004 - FAIL
Adam Airlines flight 574 crashed in an inland lake - FAIL
Air France flight crashed because of "magnetic rift" - FAIL
"Planet X" will be here by September 2007 (your prediction) - FAIL
"2012 is too far out" for the "Pole Shift" - FAIL
Obama will announce presence of "Planet X" in September 2012 - FAIL
Obama will announce presence of "Planet X" in October 2012 - FAIL

So, tell us Free Store...what accomplishments were you talking about?
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Last post for me...on the subjectof killing dogs, For one pet, the US killed hundreds of thousand of innocent souls.and took the war home with them. A nation of limbless young men...stick to one pet for glory...
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Which has what to do with Nancy, and her figments, being wrong 100% of the time?
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And did you like the taste of your dogs Freestore?

He`s probably not real. He`s one of the last Nancy-shills.

They are trying desperately to find some new members on their cult-Ning. First they sent us Cult-Billy/AC/the cult-Kiwi...

We are talking about a cult and sect here Elemental. A big hug for you my dear friend.

You got one of us. We never back down, Elemental, and we are sometimes anonymous and legion....

The truth is our ultimate goal...
You are a part of the truth as long as you mention it!
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But they can always come here and talk with us...or insult us!

They are a part of a cult history that is a long time ago.

This is the reason why cultbilly got so mad. No more members left on the cult-ning. So crazy Nancy tries to pull out her last cards.

It is incredible that this Zetatard-story is still on the internet.
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Last post for me...on the subject of killing dogs, For one pet, the US killed hundreds of thousand of innocent souls.and took the war home with them. A nation of limbless young men...stick to one pet for glory...
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That's not the point. Nancy killed her dog for an event that didn't happen and you know it. Evasion noted.
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Hey, FS. Long time no see.

So, since 2007 and 2012 didn't pan out -- how long are you willing to give Nancy *this* time? End of 2013? Beyond?

Or are you unwilling to give any expiration date on Nancy's claims at all, because the milk has just gone too far off?

You'll be believing her through 2030? 2040? To infinity and beyond?
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I see I should leave a link. Did Bush believe the May 15th 2003 pole shift date be honored? One can see that the CIA were more than conviced that the date be the date...something was used to convice the military via pet sacrifice. You arn't as well versed as I thought if you missed the Zeta explanation. It's in Zetatalk but haven't found it yet. I hardly miss anything the Zetas have said. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
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I see I should leave a link. Did Bush believe the May 15th 2003 pole shift date be honored? One can see that the CIA were more than conviced that the date be the date...something was used to convice the military via pet sacrifice. You arn't as well versed as I thought if you missed the Zeta explanation. It's in Zetatalk but haven't found it yet. I hardly miss anything the Zetas have said. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480


Why would the U.S. invade a country on a date when 90% of Earth's population was going to be wiped out? In addition, why would the U.S. carry out such an operation if all that manpower and equipment was going to be needed back in the states to prevent people from fleeing the evil government? It seems more likely that someone in the military heard about Nancy's claims through her appearances on Coast to Coast AM (after all, she was on several times until her predictions all failed) and decided to name the operation after her predicted "pole shift" date as a joke. Do you EVER use your brain for anything other than just keeping yourself alive?

BTW, there's nothing in that link saying the name of the operation had anything to do with Nancy Lieder. Care to try again?

Oh, and I see you failed to answer the questions asked of you by 74444.

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I see I should leave a link. Did Bush believe the May 15th 2003 pole shift date be honored? One can see that the CIA were more than conviced that the date be the date...something was used to convice the military via pet sacrifice. You arn't as well versed as I thought if you missed the Zeta explanation. It's in Zetatalk but haven't found it yet. I hardly miss anything the Zetas have said. [link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480

The idea of a tenth planet in our solar system (hence "Planet X" or "Planet 10") dates back to the mid-19th century, pre-dating Nancy Lieder and ZetaTalk by over 100 years.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Additionally, the hypothetical "Planet X" has nothing to do with the fictional idea of a giant planet perpetually just entering our solar system on it's way to destroy Earth.
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Astromut is by far the best shill on the pay roll, Hydra and Truther are the worst... lol they should be fired. Astro deserves a raise. Circuit breaker and 7444 I dont know about them, Viritas is a terrible shill, he should be fired also
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I challenge you, as well, to present ANY evidence that supports the claim that anyone is paid to be here. Will you be the first? Or will you run away like all those before you? I can just as easily say you're a paid by Nancy to drum up supporters. How do you like that?
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The Commontator told me that,"at least I get paid for it" When I called him a shill, in one of our rants against each other. He lost his position rather fast and sat on the side lines till he dissappered all together...can't hide these facts when one purpose is soley to berate a person with ferver. Is this your sole purpose in life? Dissing Nancy? For money I guess some people will do it. Not all shills are paid but one can easly see who is in charge and paid..
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Bullshit! Post the link you lying ward of the State! How are the wife and kids? Still gone, asshole?
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When does
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I challenge you, as well, to present ANY evidence that supports the claim that anyone is paid to be here. Will you be the first? Or will you run away like all those before you? I can just as easily say you're a paid by Nancy to drum up supporters. How do you like that?
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The Commontator told me that,"at least I get paid for it" When I called him a shill, in one of our rants against each other. He lost his position rather fast and sat on the side lines till he dissappered all together...can't hide these facts when one purpose is soley to berate a person with ferver. Is this your sole purpose in life? Dissing Nancy? For money I guess some people will do it. Not all shills are paid but one can easly see who is in charge and paid..
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Her character speaks for itself. How do you justify, on the basis of the supposed arrival of a still unproven planet x, a thing with no verifiable evidence with which to back it's existence, advising others to kill their pets? Please, tell me how, in your heart, that you can support such a statement.
 Quoting: Elemental


When is proof justifiable? I would think that if there was no Planet X, there would be no Nancy, No debunker thread and no crazy earth changes. Anyone with a IQ uver six can see that the official reason is CO2 does not fly because CO2 gas is heavier than air and plants would die without it and we die too. The Zetas have explained that it is true the reason Nancy killed her dog and advise others to do it was convincing enough at the time of the white lie a most effective tool to get Bush started rather quickly into his lost war in Iraq, which the Zetas predicted he would lose. The after effects are still being felt as in broke. The Zetas are quite smart.. Personaly I believe we come back after death so I'm sure the pup is doing well. Some logics we don't understand. But the accomplishment by the Zetas is all we have.
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In other words, you have no proof, you have no evidence, your wife and kids still left you because you are as nutty as a squirrel turd, and you lack the brains, honesty or self awareness to admit it.
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Please, stop trying the psychobabble & answer the question, from your heart, as I have (politely) asked.
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From the soul...Being thick is a debunker problem (politly answered)
 Quoting: freaky the loon1439480


How long have you been the poster child for Dunning Kruger Syndrome?
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Hey dude, go back and read the OP ... (waits) .... you back yet? see, your post is in the wrong thread.
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Heh. And Nancy surreptitiously sneaks in to defend herself anonymously...

Thread: Are ZetaTalk fans welcome now? (Page 2)

Pity the Zetas are such lousy detectives...
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Comment by Nancy Lieder

... Sunrise or sunset bend light in the red light spectrum along the Earth, by the Earth's gravity, which is why the Sun also appears huge during sunrise or sunset.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]


Didn't know, that Earth has the mass of a black hole.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Anyone with a IQ uver six can see that the official reason is CO2 does not fly because CO2 gas is heavier than air and plants would die without it and we die too.
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480


You seem to have shallow knowledge about some things you talk about...

I mean, I dont consider myself an expert on the matter, but I learned a couple of processes involved which are a little more complex than "CO2 does not fly because CO2 gas is heaver than air".

Here an example how silicate-weathering influences the global CO2-ammount in the air because I learned it recently,

1: Silicate Weathering

Imagine the continental-crust to be described as consisting of CaSiO3. (SiO2 makes 45% of the earths mantle)
Now as you may know there is erosion and weathering taking place on this planet.
In other words the hydropshere interacts with the surface.

(you don't need to necessarily understand the equation but I will bolden what I think is important)

CaSiO3 + 2CO2 + 2H2O -> Ca2+ + 2HCO3- + SiO2 + H20

In words: CaSiO3 was weathered with 2CO2 + 2H2O and left Ca2+, 2HCO3- (hydrogencarbonate), SiO2 (silica) and H2O (water).

2: Carbonate Precipation

Now, part of the remaints of the above are transported by water (rivers etc.) and finally reach the Ocean where carbonate is precipated:

Ca2+ + 2HCO3- -> CaCO3 (calcite, aragonite) + H2O + CO2


Note that 1 x CO2 was realeased as Calcite was precipated by Ca2+ and 2HCO3-, while originally 2 x CO2 were used during the silicate weathering!

This is an imbalance and the equations above just describes how CO2 is "stored" in the oceans as Calcite/Aragonite are precipated!

Of course its not the end of the story and also this "stored" CO2 gets eventually released through volcanism when these minerals are subducted:

3: Volcanic CO2-input

SiO2 (Silica) + CaCO3- -> CaSiO3 + CO2

And there you have your last CO2 again.


Now, how does this take influence on the whole CO2 level?
Here is how it goes:

I: Positive-feedback-effect (like an ice age):
> less CO2 in the atmosphere, Earth cools down, H2O(water) freezes.
> less silicate weathering, less CO2 is taken from the atmosphere
> volcanic CO2-input takes place (upperhand) and accumulates CO2 in the atmosphere heating up everything again
> the ice melts

II: Negative-feedback-effect:
> more CO2 in the atmosphere, Earth heats up, greenhouse-effect
> more evaporation, more CO2 in the grounds, more silicate weathering
> silicate weathering produces increased Carbonate-precipation (taking CO2 from the atmosphere)
> cooling down the earth again


So..
This is ONE of the feedback-mechanisms involved and I think, indeed, that it is a little more complex than "CO2 is heaver than air" which is just a composition of other gases as CB correctly noted.

If you really wonder why the "balance" isn't working anymore you might just look around you and eventually realize who is a major factor in this whole game.

It might also help to look at history... long term.

Earth is around 4.5 Billion years old....(some zirconia-minerals found provided an age of 4.4 billion! years by analyzing its 238U to 206Pb - decay (and other decay-sequenes)).

Around 4.3 - 4 billion years ago the first monocellular and multicellular (primitive) lifeforms have eveloped. (that really ain't much on a global scale in terms of life)..

The big boom of the evolution started around 542 million(!) years ago..

That is a BIG gap there, in fact it took 88% of the time until "the big boom" eventually started!

"System Earth" had a heck of a time to find some balance with everything... but now there is this one strong influence on the planet...
Its everywhere!!

Its starts with "homo" and ends with "iens"
hf

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btw FS,
here an example of someone with a little bit of knowledge over the topic [link to earlywarn.blogspot.de]

Can you see the difference between Nancy's version and...(lets get straight here) reality?

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Anyone with a IQ uver six can see that the official reason is CO2 does not fly because CO2 gas is heavier than air and plants would die without it and we die too.
 Quoting: Free Store 1439480


You seem to have shallow knowledge about some things you talk about...

I mean, I dont consider myself an expert on the matter, but I learned a couple of processes involved which are a little more complex than "CO2 does not fly because CO2 gas is heaver than air".

Here an example how silicate-weathering influences the global CO2-ammount in the air because I learned it recently,

1: Silicate Weathering

Imagine the continental-crust to be described as consisting of CaSiO3. (SiO2 makes 45% of the earths mantle)
Now as you may know there is erosion and weathering taking place on this planet.
In other words the hydropshere interacts with the surface.

(you don't need to necessarily understand the equation but I will bolden what I think is important)

CaSiO3 + 2CO2 + 2H2O -> Ca2+ + 2HCO3- + SiO2 + H20

In words: CaSiO3 was weathered with 2CO2 + 2H2O and left Ca2+, 2HCO3- (hydrogencarbonate), SiO2 (silica) and H2O (water).

2: Carbonate Precipation

Now, part of the remaints of the above are transported by water (rivers etc.) and finally reach the Ocean where carbonate is precipated:

Ca2+ + 2HCO3- -> CaCO3 (calcite, aragonite) + H2O + CO2


Note that 1 x CO2 was realeased as Calcite was precipated by Ca2+ and 2HCO3-, while originally 2 x CO2 were used during the silicate weathering!

This is an imbalance and the equations above just describes how CO2 is "stored" in the oceans as Calcite/Aragonite are precipated!

Of course its not the end of the story and also this "stored" CO2 gets eventually released through volcanism when these minerals are subducted:

3: Volcanic CO2-input

SiO2 (Silica) + CaCO3- -> CaSiO3 + CO2

And there you have your last CO2 again.


Now, how does this take influence on the whole CO2 level?
Here is how it goes:

I: Positive-feedback-effect (like an ice age):
> less CO2 in the atmosphere, Earth cools down, H2O(water) freezes.
> less silicate weathering, less CO2 is taken from the atmosphere
> volcanic CO2-input takes place (upperhand) and accumulates CO2 in the atmosphere heating up everything again
> the ice melts

II: Negative-feedback-effect:
> more CO2 in the atmosphere, Earth heats up, greenhouse-effect
> more evaporation, more CO2 in the grounds, more silicate weathering
> silicate weathering produces increased Carbonate-precipation (taking CO2 from the atmosphere)
> cooling down the earth again


So..
This is ONE of the processes involved and I think, indeed, that it is a little more complex than "CO2 is heaver than air" which is just a composition of other gases as CB correctly noted.

If you really wonder why the "balance" isn't working anymore you might just look around you and eventually realize who is a major factor in this whole game.

It might also help to look at history... long term.

Earth is around 4.5 Billion years old....(some zirconia-minerals found provided an age of 4.4 billion! years by analyzing its 238U to 206Pb - decay (and other decay-sequenes)).

Around 4.3 - 4 billion years ago the first monocellular and multicellular (primitive) lifeforms have eveloped. (that really ain't much on a global scale in terms of life)..

The big boom of the evolution started around 542 million(!) years ago..

That is a BIG gap there, in fact it took 88% of the time until "the big boom" eventually started!

"System Earth" had a heck of a time to find some balance with everything... but now there is this one strong influence on the planet...
Its everywhere!!

Its starts with "homo" and ends with "iens"
hf
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The Commontator told me that,"at least I get paid for it" When I called him a shill, in one of our rants against each other. He lost his position rather fast and sat on the side lines till he dissappered all together...can't hide these facts when one purpose is soley to berate a person with ferver. Is this your sole purpose in life? Dissing Nancy? For money I guess some people will do it. Not all shills are paid but one can easly see who is in charge and paid..
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I see that you're still living in that land of fantasy and delusion where you believe everything that Nancy babbles out.

Just like you idiots believed my website was a NSA/CIA/whatever creation and bought it hook, line and sinker when I temporarily shut it down and claimed that we had lost funding from the government.

Ningtards like you will believe anything.

Did you consider that it might have a been a joke that commentator said he was being paid just seeing if you would react the way he thought you would?
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Dude you are free to believe whatever you want for whatever reason.

As for me, I have been there, been working with Nancy over two years.. heared her theories, saw her "proof".

Looking back I ask myself how I could get fooled so hard.. but eventually I forgot about all the mind-reading BS and assumptions I piled up.

There are many instances of documented contradictions of her claims and theories. Its all been lied down many times but wether you read and reproduce or ignore is up to you. Another question is wether you are able to look at it objectively which is hard in the world of Nancy as there is no other truth than hers.

I have one tip for you though,
if you ever come to question yourself, dont let your past decieve your judgement.
At one point, it was irrelevant who I am and what I did. Important was what was true and what needed to be done.

btw, you can find my story below in the link
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Also, why not google "What affects the weather?" or "Magnetic-stripes" next time?
And, probably you were looking for something in the lines of this [link to uk.answers.yahoo.com]
Looks like the silicate weathering didnt catched your interest :P
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It's now apparent you don't have much a of scientific education. Do you actually think a person exhales 100% carbon dioxide?
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Dude you are free to believe whatever you want for whatever reason.

As for me, I have been there, been working with Nancy over two years.. heared her theories, saw her "proof".

Looking back I ask myself how I could get fooled so hard.. but eventually I forgot about all the mind-reading BS and assumptions I piled up.

There are many instances of documented contradictions of her claims and theories. Its all been lied down many times but wether you read and reproduce or ignore is up to you. Another question is wether you are able to look at it objectively which is hard in the world of Nancy as there is no other truth than hers.

I have one tip for you though,
if you ever come to question yourself, dont let your past decieve your judgement.
At one point, it was irrelevant who I am and what I did. Important was what was true and what needed to be done.

Sometimes they throw flowers instead of eggs..it seems. I was suprised.
hf

btw, you can find my story below in the link
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Don't forget that may 15th was a clever deception the aliens played on the gullability of the US to get into Iraq and secure the oil fields for King Bush in the aftertime. Certanly not for WMD or terrorists. I to am a pawn with old food and broken friendships. That is the cost of freedom for me and I don't snivel about it. I know what's cooking. I see it every darn day. The wait is pretty bad but is a good test for survivalists. .My childhood dreams, having a flying saucer hovering over yourback yard watching you and totaly without sound, send a basketball size ball of heatless fire to attract your attention to look over here. My travels from bed to ship and back awake floating through the kitchen back to bed are what keeps me going, as the debunkers don't understand why I don,t change for the sake of change. You don't get those kind of privleges dissing Nancy. I hope you find a handle on the whole situation. ok?
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Dude you are free to believe whatever you want for whatever reason.

As for me, I have been there, been working with Nancy over two years.. heared her theories, saw her "proof".

Looking back I ask myself how I could get fooled so hard.. but eventually I forgot about all the mind-reading BS and assumptions I piled up.

There are many instances of documented contradictions of her claims and theories. Its all been lied down many times but wether you read and reproduce or ignore is up to you. Another question is wether you are able to look at it objectively which is hard in the world of Nancy as there is no other truth than hers.

I have one tip for you though,
if you ever come to question yourself, dont let your past decieve your judgement.
At one point, it was irrelevant who I am and what I did. Important was what was true and what needed to be done.

Sometimes they throw flowers instead of eggs..it seems. I was suprised.
hf

btw, you can find my story below in the link
book
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Don't forget that may 15th was a clever deception the aliens played on the gullability of the US to get into Iraq and secure the oil fields for King Bush in the aftertime. Certanly not for WMD or terrorists. I to am a pawn with old food and broken friendships. That is the cost of freedom for me and I don't snivel about it. I know what's cooking. I see it every darn day. The wait is pretty bad but is a good test for survivalists. .My childhood dreams, having a flying saucer hovering over yourback yard watching you and totaly without sound, send a basketball size ball of heatless fire to attract your attention to look over here. My travels from bed to ship and back awake floating through the kitchen back to bed are what keeps me going, as the debunkers don't understand why I don,t change for the sake of change. You don't get those kind of privleges dissing Nancy. I hope you find a handle on the whole situation. ok?
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Hey, FS. Long time no see.

So, since 2007 and 2012 didn't pan out -- how long are you willing to give Nancy *this* time? End of 2013? Beyond?

Or are you unwilling to give any expiration date on Nancy's claims at all, because the milk has just gone too far off?

You'll be believing her through 2030? 2040? To infinity and beyond?


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