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Oh good, you're here.

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Ready for the discussion now? Ready to justify murdering household pets yet?
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Another hit and run post by Poleshit-Nancy?

< ... Insert BS here ... >
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656

Dear Nancy,

perhaps you will here answer my question, you refused to answer in other threads:

Lets assume, Earth is halted in the orbit since 2003.
Lets further assume, the Zetas tilt and move Earth a little to simulate the Seasons.


Here something to think about:
There are summer and winter constellations.
Eg Taurus, Gemini or Orion, easy to recognise in the northern winter - and Libra or Scorpio in the northern summer.

If Earth is halted in orbit - don't orbit around the sun - shouldn't we see the same constellations all over the year?

Why can we see Taurus, Gemini and Orion only in the northern winter?
Why can we see Libra and Scorpio only in the northern summer?

There are only three ways to explain this:
1 - Earth is not halted in orbit.
2 - The Zetas move the entire universe around Earth.
3 - The Zetas use some kind of magic.




The paid shills at that thread are so desperate to justify their own existence and their ill-gotten paychecks that they post comments from other sites (not GLP) then "debate" and argue those comments.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656

Right - to show other reader the ZetaBullshit.



But the problem is this: The people who posted those comments ON OTHER SITES are banned and cannot respond, even if they wanted to.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656

The fact, that you just post here proves your claim wrong.
And shall I link to all your other pet dogs posting here, eg in the Debunker thread or the thread "Are ZetaTalk fans welcome now?"

You are simply a liar - as always.


Must be nice, eh? To control a thread so much but have no one to debate that they must import comments to have anyone to argue against. Wow. Hilarious. And they think they are so s-m-a-r-t too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656

You are talking about the Poleshit.ning?

What's written on your "Sign up" page?
"The Pole Shift ning is a publication with serious discussion about the issues."

So may I register to participate in your "serious discussion"?


The worst part: Many of them are so ill in the head that they get pleasure from knowing Planet X is not real while pretending it is. Everytime they get a lie over on someone they feel happy about it. I call that sadistic!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656

Fixed it for you.
Again talking about the Poleshit.ning.


MoreAboutTunnelVision (often hiding as AC at GLP) now since no one who knows what a TRATIOR he is will have anything to do with him including "debates" about Planet X.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656

May be he's a traitor for you.
Here he got a warm welcome by the "Not believers" and still gets.


Btw: Is it you, Nancy?

searchfornibiru

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Hey, TRAITOR! You can forget about me ever "debating" you! Why on earth would I waste my time like that? (Seeing as how I am not paid to shill and I don't have a parent paying my bills, I support myself.)

Hey, ELEMENTAL! Ditto! Not going to waste a precious second "debating" you either. Right about now you need some proof of your work at GLP, and I am not going to give you any.

Hey, PAID SHILLS in general! Thanks for proving my point. You are all over my comments lightning fast, like almost immediately. You know, as if you are assigned to the thread, watching for those who tell the truth (unlike you disturbed souls), pouncing on evertyhing, justifying your paychecks or boosting your little egos in the case of the TRAITOR (in particular).

So their actions, once again, PROVE my points. I have other things to do because I am not paid to post like the paid shills.

By jumping on my comments so fast you PROVE my points.

Thank you!

I sense some panic among the paid shills which seems to abating. I guess they have been told they will still be shilling for a living after the announcement Planet X is real because it has been decided, already, that ZetaTalk will STILL be attacked after the announcement.

It is going to be very difficult to rewrite history and PRETEND Nancy Lieder and ZetaTalk have not been around for 17 years.

Since neither the paid shils nor their handlers EVER expected the United States would announce Planet X is real, they mistakenly thought that naming Nancy Lieder as the "founder" of Planet X was a safe bet as the cover up of Nibiru would hold.

So now they are searching for a way to make it appear, not true of course, that Nancy Lieder does not have a long history of telling the truth via ZetaTalk and her own posts or interviews.

Big problem, eh?

Cannot wait to see how they are going to try and claim that Nancy Lieder only just learned Planet X is real via the announcement, when SHE and the Zetas are the ONLY, ONLY, ONLY ones who have been telling the truth about Planet X.

Quite a dilemma, eh?

We are going to see who has been right all along about Planet X, and it is not the paid shills.
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I don't understand why the Zetans don't just stop Nibiru. They certainly seem to be powerful enough (being able to move the universe around Earth, and all)
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Please notice that the new paid shill Elemental is oh so busy, but only on threads that discuss Planet X, his or her assigned subject to debunk, apparently.

You can tell a Planet X paid shill because they generally jump on threads about Planet X or evidence pointing to it.

I cannot prove Elemental is a paid shill, of course, that is how the system works, secrecy. They will just deny in all day long anyway. The paid shills know this perfectly well, which is why they insist that we, regular folks, somehow provide absolute proof who is a paid shill at GLP. Of course we cannot do that. That is a black ops area, SECRET.

So if Elemental is not a paid shill, he or she is in severe denial about Planet X/Nibiru.
 Quoting: How many paid shills?!!! 2411656


applause Bravo Ann, you just proved you really have not the slightest argument for Planet X.

HOW MANY TIMES do we have to repeat that the whole Paid-BS changes nothing of the facts being presented? (Beside up until today you failed utterly at providing ANY PROOF).

You don't want to acknowledge there are no paid debunkers because the whole "paid-BS" is the only argument you have and it would devastate your little phantasy-world to know that people do it alone for the fact because they don't like Nancy misleading people!

You have NOTHING SOLID in your hands and you throw one ad-hominem after another.

Its obvious how your mind works:
- If you don't accept the "reality of Planet X" you are either paid or in severe denial.
- YOU NEVER consider YOURSELF of being wrong about something because your self-inflated ego is too strong as to admit you might be wrong.

BTW: Do you still think you are PEN #1 (the most wanted person on the planet) and being a "7-density" soul, whatever?

Guess once you reached that "dimension" you don't need to argue anymore... instead loose accustations of being paid or ad-hominem are enough...eh?

Goes to show how mature and wise you are.


Either way, please do NOT listen to Elemental. Elemental does not have your best interests at heart: One way or another, either it is about money or making him or herself feel better. Not good!
 Quoting: How many paid shills?!!! 2411656


I am amazed how irrational your thoughts sometimes are...
You really seem to suffer paranoia and I say this because everytime something goes out against Nancy you instantly think a new conspiracy was set up to prevent the "abundance of proof" to be show up.

Also, why the heck should someone give a fu about your words when all you have to offer is loose claims without proof and personal attacks?

Would YOU care if I say, "either way, please do not listen to Nancy, she is a paid shill and misleading"?
Of course you wouldn't because eventually even your distorted gut knows that "just because someone claims he's reliable, mature, sto, whatever - DOESNT MEAN NOTHING"

The reason I am sure Elemental is a paid shill:

1. So many of the Planet X paid shills have been identified that they need new ones to come along and pretend to be regular people with an extensive, all the time in the world available, interest in debunking Planet X.

2. Dr. Astro (#1 paid shill at GLP) is defending Elemental, claiming he or she is not a paid shill. Thanks for the confirmation, Astromut!

The other paid shills who debunk Planet X/Nibiru, but of course I cannot prove it:

Hydra
Menow
Geomagnetic Storm
Truther
Dr. Astro/Astromut
Circuit Breaker
Marketselloff
Halcyon Days
VeritasN1
There are more, so many I cannot recall all of them.
 Quoting: How many paid shills?!!! 2411656


plain stupid. How about switching the game?
You come here everyday, throwing attacks and avoiding to answer valid questions.

Looks like you are the paid shill and you are paid to accuse others of being paid shills! Now what, you shill!


You can see their activites on this debunker thread. All the proof anyone with their eyes open needs is to check out the actions of the paid shills (who never stop even after they have been identified as a paid shill, which is more proof they are paid shills).
 Quoting: How many paid shills?!!! 2411656


Ah, so now you share FS's opinion that the only proof of PX is the fact that others say its BS??
lmao Thats not much you have to offer then..

The paid shills at this thread are so desperate to justify their own existence and their ill-gotten paychecks that they post comments from other sites (not GLP) then "debate" and argue about those comments. What?!!
 Quoting: How many paid shills?!!! 2411656


Aww... you mad because we expose those mental problems on the Ning?
Get over it.

The problem is this: The people who posted those comments ON OTHER SITES are banned at GLP for being ZetaTalk fans and cannot respond, even if they wanted to.
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Another loose claim of you... Bother to present any proof??
(A screenshot of being banned does not suffice)


It is so well known that this thread is mostly visited by paid shills that those shills are forced to import comments from OTHER SITES in order to have ANYONE to argue against. Wow. Hilarious.
 Quoting: How many paid shills?!!! 2411656


Guess that must be proof of PX then eh?
1rof1

The worst part: Many of them are so ill in the head that they get pleasure from knowing Planet X is real while pretending it is not. Everytime they get a lie over on someone they feel happy about it. I call that sadistic!

Unpaid, very confused, desperately seeking attention amateur, who is so desperate to feel even a little bit powerful that he betrayed people (he said so himself, I am not making this up, by the way he left the PS Ning) wno trusted him. Doesn't he realize that not even the paid shills have any respect for him? No one has respect for traitors!

MoreAboutTunnelVision (often hiding as AC at GLP now since no one who knows what a TRATIOR he is will have anything to do with him including "debates" about Planet X).
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Gal, I dont give a fu that you are too blind to realize that what I did was the absolute right thing to do. I am a traitor for you? Thats fine..

People are free to think whatever they want...

BUT, why don't you come back with some real arguments?
I mean, even you must see that your childish attempts lead nowhere... do they?
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The list of current paid shills is important.

Because when NASA announces Planet X is real and has been in the inner solar system for years, those paid shills will likely disappear, gone, that day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


Oh, my. Your mythology continues to increase in complexity. Start with the cornerstone that anyone who disagrees is a 'paid shill.' Then build from there.

Your cornerstone isn't very stable -- because there will be no such announcement, because PX is *not* real, certainly not as Nancy describes it. Nor all her other heavenly claims. Nor people, or at the very least *I* being paid to post here, for I am not.

So when those paid shills stop posting, suddenly, you will know why. And that will be indirect proof that they are paid shills, paid to debunk the presence of Planet X, the PS ning, and ZetaTalk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


Well, I shall not stop posting, but then I am not paid to post here or anywhere else on the Internet. But since your "proof" here can only be confirmed when PX is admitted by NASA and the government, it will never happen *anyway.*

BTW, paid shills: If the PS ning is so tiny, has so few members (although for web sites it is never about the membership, get real), and matters so little when why all the attention given to shredding it on the paid debunker thread?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


Well, firstly, it's fun. Secondly, it helps people learn *real* astronomy rather than the claptrap that Nancy spreads. Thirdly, it points out that ZT is a cult, and that's a service as well.

Does not make since, does it? Unless the PS ning is a threat and THAT is why the paid shill handlers' tell them to concentrate on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


PS-Ning is the home of a cult. Pointing that out is good for everyone.

The actions of the shills betray them, but they keep on posting as if they are just regular folks "concerned" about a hoax (ZetaTalk), which is not a hoax at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


Yes, it is. But there is no rational way that can be proved to you, the true believer, because you *cannot* think rationally about ZT or the PS-Ning. They are your religions.

There are so many actual hoaxes on the internet but the paid shills pay almost no attention to debunking them. Why not?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


Who says I don't? But Nancy's has a couple things going for it. Firstly, because it deals with astronomy, which I care about. Secondly, because it's *terribly* easy to disprove Nancy's claims, and thirdly, because said claims are *hilariously* funny.

Again, the actions of the shills betray them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


According to you -- NO one can disagree with Nancy *without* being a supposed paid shill. That betrays you as a cult follower.

So, once the announcement happens (please be patient, the few real people who read this thread) we can expect the paid shills to disappear as they will not be able to debunk Planet X/Nibiru any longer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


And how long must this announcement FAIL to occur before you start considering the *possibility* that Nancy is simply wrong? And why is *this* question never, ever answered by any followers? Could it be that they, like Nancy, are afraid of specific dates because of how badly *every* specific date has *been* for Nancy?

But they will be back, with new screen names, to keep their black ops funding "careers" as paid shills going.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


Sigh. I'll always be 74444, as I always have been.

Yep, suddenly, very suddenly (except Elemental is getting started early) there will be new "members" of GLP who debunk only ZetaTalk and the PS ning.

The paid shills will have no choice (Dr. Astros' attempt to get away from his past as Astromut is failing) but to abandon those screen names and accounts and PRETEND they are new members/people oh so concerned about the public believing the ZetaTalk message after the Planet X announcement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


Which they'll never have to worry about, since no announcement will *ever* be made about your supposed planet.


So that is why a partial, incomplete list of paid shills at GLP matters because they are going to PROVE I am correct when they disappear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


So, when they *don't* disappear, what does *that* prove?


And who is "Ann" that you are mentioning? Geez, don't you have anything better to do than single out someone for "special treatment"? I mean, seriously. Don't you understand that most people are seeing right through your tasks as paid shills? That is why no one posts hardly at the paid debunker thread except for paid shills themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


Well, that's what the thread was for, since Nancy kept deleting anyone who posted contrary information. She *still* hasn't answered how Capricorn can be in the sky if Earth is stuck in an Autumn position in relation to the Sun. The fact that the thread keeps going makes her very, very angry -- as the information is contains is terribly embarrassing to Nancy *and* her pet fake aliens.

Laughing.
Laughing.
Laughing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


Indeed I am, and susped I am not alone.

Watch and learn!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2411656


Great advice. How long will you watch for an announcement tha never comes, before you can *even consider* that Nancy's mythology is just that?
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Hey, TRAITOR! You can forget about me ever "debating" you! Why on earth would I waste my time like that? (Seeing as how I am not paid to shill and I don't have a parent paying my bills, I support myself.)

Hey, ELEMENTAL! Ditto! Not going to waste a precious second "debating" you either. Right about now you need some proof of your work at GLP, and I am not going to give you any.

Hey, PAID SHILLS in general! Thanks for proving my point. You are all over my comments lightning fast, like almost immediately. You know, as if you are assigned to the thread, watching for those who tell the truth (unlike you disturbed souls), pouncing on evertyhing, justifying your paychecks or boosting your little egos in the case of the TRAITOR (in particular).

So their actions, once again, PROVE my points. I have other things to do because I am not paid to post like the paid shills.

By jumping on my comments so fast you PROVE my points.

Thank you!

I sense some panic among the paid shills which seems to abating. I guess they have been told they will still be shilling for a living after the announcement Planet X is real because it has been decided, already, that ZetaTalk will STILL be attacked after the announcement.

It is going to be very difficult to rewrite history and PRETEND Nancy Lieder and ZetaTalk have not been around for 17 years.

Since neither the paid shils nor their handlers EVER expected the United States would announce Planet X is real, they mistakenly thought that naming Nancy Lieder as the "founder" of Planet X was a safe bet as the cover up of Nibiru would hold.

So now they are searching for a way to make it appear, not true of course, that Nancy Lieder does not have a long history of telling the truth via ZetaTalk and her own posts or interviews.

Big problem, eh?

Cannot wait to see how they are going to try and claim that Nancy Lieder only just learned Planet X is real via the announcement, when SHE and the Zetas are the ONLY, ONLY, ONLY ones who have been telling the truth about Planet X.

Quite a dilemma, eh?

We are going to see who has been right all along about Planet X, and it is not the paid shills.
 Quoting: Forget about it! 2411656


You're getting annoying...

You simply don't want to step up to a real discussion...and avoid every manner of valid arguments.

Others (allegedly) prove your point,
there is (allegedly) an abundace of proof of PX (but none has been presented),
everyone is allegedly paid (but not the slightest proof)..

I mean... all you offered so far were loose claims...a house of cards.

Are you unable to prove even ONE point for yourself?
How about starting with the Moon or Sun (allegedly) being out of position?



Everyone knows that you will fail to step up to the challange... even though you will claim a hundred other reasons why you weren't able...while the most likely being just ignoring it alltogether... like my document. (Which goes to prove that you're not able to debunk what I collected - thanks).


Are you ready to discuss this yet?

[link to docs.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Elemental


Ready, gal?

Uh.. right... I am a traitor and that is reason enough to discount all analysis provided...
Same as the debunkers... they are allegedly paid, so you can discount all arguments...

Guess you must have such an attitude to avoid disconfirmation of your fictional planet.

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The list of current paid shills is important.
 Quoting: Anonymous Zetard 2411656

Repeating you delusional claims doesn't make them any less delusional.

Because when NASA announces Planet X is real and has been in the inner solar system for years, those paid shills will likely disappear, gone, that day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Zetard 2411656

Where does this fringer myth come from that NASA is the only organisation with high-end observatories, and that they could keep a big secret even if their lives depended on it?

BTW, paid shills: If the PS ning is so tiny, has so few members (although for web sites it is never about the membership, get real), and matters so little when why all the attention given to shredding it on the paid debunker thread?
 Quoting: Anonymous Zetard 2411656

Personally I do it for the entertainment value.
Kooks are fascinating.

Does not make since, does it? Unless the PS ning is a threat and THAT is why the paid shill handlers' tell them to concentrate on it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Zetard 2411656

Considering that the cult has destroyed lives it is indeed a threat.
A threat to mankind's mental hygiene.

The actions of the shills betray them, but they keep on posting as if they are just regular folks "concerned" about a hoax (ZetaTalk), which is not a hoax at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Zetard 2411656

Not a hoax, a delusion.
It would be a hoax if Nancy doesn't believe her own bullshit.
We don't know that, we're not mindreaders.

There are so many actual hoaxes on the internet but the paid shills pay almost no attention to debunking them. Why not?
 Quoting: Anonymous Zetard 2411656

Don't lie.
I'm having lots of fun on Apollo hoax threads right now.

So, once the announcement happens (please be patient, the few real people who read this thread) we can expect the paid shills to disappear as they will not be able to debunk Planet X/Nibiru any longer.
 Quoting: Anonymous Zetard 2411656

It was supposed to happen a decade ago.
You lot are just like the JWs and so many other cults.
Always able to find an excuse for when profecy fails.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Dr. Astros' attempt to get away from his past as Astromut is failing
 Quoting: Anonymous Zetard 2411656

LOL.
What attempts? Everybody here knows who he is.
He made a big song-and-dance about his academic promotion.
(I don't blame him.)

Watch and learn!
 Quoting: Anonymous Zetard 2411656

We did.

We learned you are full of shit.

Face the music, nobody here get's paid to disagree with you.
They disagree with your nonsense because it is nonsense.
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It rots the mind and blackens the heart.


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Dr. Astros' attempt to get away from his past as Astromut is failing
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LOL.
What attempts? Everybody here knows who he is.
He made a big song-and-dance about his academic promotion.
(I don't blame him.)
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Bahaha! Silly me, all this time and I "forgot" to take off the "Astromut" banner at the bottom of each of my posts! Doh!
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There are so many actual hoaxes on the internet but the paid shills pay almost no attention to debunking them. Why not?
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LOL! I'm an equal opportunity astronomy debunker, what the heck are you talking about?
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Heck, I even made a thread with a parody of the title of that one:
Thread: Scientist confirms extinction event asteroid will NOT hit earth
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Hey, TRAITOR! You can forget about me ever "debating" you! Why on earth would I waste my time like that? (Seeing as how I am not paid to shill and I don't have a parent paying my bills, I support myself.)
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You know, I am liking him more and more, the way you keep going on about him.

Hey, ELEMENTAL! Ditto! Not going to waste a precious second "debating" you either. Right about now you need some proof of your work at GLP, and I am not going to give you any.
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Oh, my. Then why are you posting on this thread *at all?* You can't *buy* entertainment like this!

Hey, PAID SHILLS in general! Thanks for proving my point. You are all over my comments lightning fast, like almost immediately. You know, as if you are assigned to the thread, watching for those who tell the truth (unlike you disturbed souls), pouncing on evertyhing, justifying your paychecks or boosting your little egos in the case of the TRAITOR (in particular).
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Well, it is quite convenient that you are on when I happen to be on. Feel free to show up at this time every day.

So their actions, once again, PROVE my points. I have other things to do because I am not paid to post like the paid shills.

By jumping on my comments so fast you PROVE my points.
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You would claim such no matter what. If there are no comments to the contrary, that's positive proof. If comments come too quickly, that's positive proof.

What is the *appropriate* interval between counterposts that is *not* positive proof, in your philosophy?

Thank you!
 Quoting: Forget about it! 2411656


You are quite welcome.

I sense some panic among the paid shills which seems to abating. I guess they have been told they will still be shilling for a living after the announcement Planet X is real because it has been decided, already, that ZetaTalk will STILL be attacked after the announcement.
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I await your response to the possibility that such an announcement will never come, what your response would be to that occurring, and how long you are willing to wait before you can *begin* to doubt that such an annoucement is forthcoming.

I expect a long wait for that answer. As long as the wait for PX, I suppose. But the believer's faith is unshakable!

It is going to be very difficult to rewrite history and PRETEND Nancy Lieder and ZetaTalk have not been around for 17 years.

Since neither the paid shils nor their handlers EVER expected the United States would announce Planet X is real, they mistakenly thought that naming Nancy Lieder as the "founder" of Planet X was a safe bet as the cover up of Nibiru would hold.
 Quoting: Forget about it! 2411656


I *continue* to think such an announcement is impossible, since PX, as Nancy describes it, doesn't exist.

So now they are searching for a way to make it appear, not true of course, that Nancy Lieder does not have a long history of telling the truth via ZetaTalk and her own posts or interviews.

Big problem, eh?
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Nope, because of the easily proved observations that disprove Nancy entirely. Every eclipse, every transit, every sunrise and sunset, GPS working, sextants working, ancient navigation working, GOTO telescopes operating all combine into a wall of evidence ZT simply cannot address, let alone breach.

Cannot wait to see how they are going to try and claim that Nancy Lieder only just learned Planet X is real via the announcement, when SHE and the Zetas are the ONLY, ONLY, ONLY ones who have been telling the truth about Planet X.

Quite a dilemma, eh?
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Not if such an announcement never, ever comes. And your dilemma will be equally interesting as you wait, and wait...

...and wait...

For how long? Forever? Will you *ever* be able to even *conceive* that Nancy is merely wrong?

We are going to see who has been right all along about Planet X, and it is not the paid shills.
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And as the days drag by, with no announcement, how many years must go by *this* time before you *consider* that Nancy is merely wrong? I know I have repeated the question often, but no believer has ever truly answered.

Will you be the first? I tend to doubt it. But, as I said before, hope springs eternal.
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Hey, ELEMENTAL! Ditto! Not going to waste a precious second "debating" you either.
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I bet you're not. It would be hard to debate fact with fiction wouldn't it? It would be hard to explain and justify the murder of pets too wouldn't it? You're behaving like a coward. A true lily liver.
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Hey, ELEMENTAL! Ditto! Not going to waste a precious second "debating" you either.
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I bet you're not. It would be hard to debate fact with fiction wouldn't it? It would be hard to explain and justify the murder of pets too wouldn't it? You're behaving like a coward. A true lily liver.
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ohyeah

It seems every additional person describing Nancy's cult make the remaining believers 25% more nervous.

I mean, the last days triggered a heck of comments so they really must be on another historic-low (emotionally)... I guess due to the frustration of endless waiting and no signs of X or NObama...

Its apparent they're having emotional issues as the pattern repeats over and over:

- claims of paid debunkers, (discounting everything they argue)
- ad hominem and other logical fallacies
- suggestive attempts to let people look bad
- claims of an abudance of proof, yet not able to present it
- avoiding, evading valid questions due to pseudo-reasons (paid, Traitor, whatever)
- claims that no proof would ever convince us to justificate that they don't need to present any (of course, as they don't have any)..

did I forgot anything?

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I'm very tempted to head over to her Facebook page and leave a few pertinent comments there....
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I can understand Ann`s frustration and I seriously doubt that this recruitment drive will be successful. Whenever I open the poleshit.ning.com I feel like I landed in an institution for therapeutic writing. And sometimes bad advertisement is bad advertisement. Let us see what they proudly present here:

- Some old weird men who want to find planets with old floppy-disks in front of their smartphones applause2
- An oldtimer who presents us his homemade bunker with a glass door!! and threatened to commit suicide a few years ago
- Some neurotic claims wakeup
- A planet which only exists in their fantasy, far away from every astronomic reality
- Hundreds of failed predictions
- Endless waiting fun (far more than ten years)
- A president of the United States who has never heard from them
- A lot of pets they slaughtered and ate back in 2003 and probably also nowadays
- Nine moons of a not-existing planet which breeded and have around 40 children now which jump around in front of the sun as so called “moon swirls”
- Some countries like Indonesia which don’t want to sink though the cult leader Mrs. Lieder proudly announced it several times
- A Zeta-movie-maker who proudly introduced himself as a child molestor on GLPshitstir2
- Some advertisement for cannibalism and other scary practices
ohno

That doesn’t sound very convincing in my eyes. To be honest it is even a disaster for a third- class cult. The stupid it burns with a lot of noise. No wonder that Ann is so desperate and aggressive.

Would you join such a cult? Even Charles Manson sounds like the nice guy next door compared with this creepy and disgusting stories.
You are a part of the truth as long as you mention it!
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(snip rant)


The paid shills at this thread are so desperate to justify their own existence and their ill-gotten paychecks that they post comments from other sites (not GLP) then "debate" and argue about those comments. What?!!

The problem is this: The people who posted those comments ON OTHER SITES are banned at GLP for being ZetaTalk fans and cannot respond, even if they wanted to.

It is so well known that this thread is mostly visited by paid shills that those shills are forced to import comments from OTHER SITES in order to have ANYONE to argue against. Wow. Hilarious.

(snip rant)
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You lie. I offered to post Ann S' comments here because she SAYS she can't post here. How is that not being able to respond? You lie again in claiming that Zeta supporters are banned from posting at GLP. Cleary YOU and Freestore are posting here.

By the way... do you believe Earth has not been orbiting the sun since 2003?
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when NASA announces Planet X is real


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Sorry? When did that happen again? Oh... it didn't? Well, get back to me when Obama makes the announcement, K?
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I'm very tempted to head over to her Facebook page and leave a few pertinent comments there....
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The main reason Nancy goes on the attack is to trigger responses she can spin into looking like there is an organized opposition to her "truth". Don't forget that.
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The main reason Nancy goes on the attack is to trigger responses she can spin into looking like there is an organized opposition to her "truth". Don't forget that.
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Yeah, a passing temptation. Couldn't do it anyway without liking the page which would then go on my timeline....that would be too embarrassing for words.
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I shall type shill 17 times in hopes someone will believe it and turn to the darkside
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Good luck with that!

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Dear Poleshit-Ann

specially designed for you:

swfanno


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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I'm very tempted to head over to her Facebook page and leave a few pertinent comments there....
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The main reason Nancy goes on the attack is to trigger responses she can spin into looking like there is an organized opposition to her "truth". Don't forget that.
 Quoting: Menow 36439870

right.. that (weak) argument is often used..
however I think its not even Nancy per se, but her members/moderators who think they need to defend her ideologies on their own.

Its all based on the false believe that a huge catastrophe is going to happen and Nancy is helping everyone by telling them to go rural and start gardening.
They're just not able to realize how such a woman could blatantly lie and twist facts right before them.

Eventually because they learned that all what is said is supposed to be the truth.. and thats how they get sucked in.

Some of them think its not necessary to even question it anymore because they percieved "enough" confirmation elsewhere (confirmation-bias).
At least in the face of so dramatic examples of disconfirmation, which are often mentioned in this thread, someone would think they must halt for a moment,
but no, the bias is stronger.

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Dear Poleshit-Ann

specially designed for you:

swfanno

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By thinking about it, Nancy even managed to reverse progress!
Now Planet X cannot make itself known, but needs to be announced first.

You know.. it needs to be on paper...signed all over it.
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The main reason Nancy goes on the attack is to trigger responses she can spin into looking like there is an organized opposition to her "truth". Don't forget that.
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Yeah, a passing temptation. Couldn't do it anyway without liking the page which would then go on my timeline....that would be too embarrassing for words.
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Oh that would be horrible. I was going to do the same thing, then realized all my friends would of seen me liking that page. And that's a no no.
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Somebody post the first post of this post.
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Somebody post the first post of this post.
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The what? The who?
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Somebody post the first post of this post.
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The what? The who?
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Nice owl impression GS \m/


edit: ( when I read that in my head I read twit twoo, hence the owl impression )

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Somebody post the first post of this post.
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Why ?
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Paid Shill Handbook:

When all else fails, just make stuff up and pretend like you did not.

How would any ordinary person know WHO is posting on the paid debunker thread? Most would not.

So anyone who claims they know WHO is posting is most likely not only a paid shill but one with access to black ops type stuff.

But since Planet X is supposedly not real and ZetaTalk is supposedly a hoax, there should be NO reason at all why black ops kinds of 'people' would be concerned about things that are supposedly not true.

So the paid shills pretend they are not shills, but somehow they magically know exactly WHO is posting on here?

Guess there is telepathy after all, only way to explain knowing exactly WHO is posting unless you are black ops.

So telepathy must also be real.

Zetas right again!

Trying to make it appear that ZetaTalk fans are not banned is a pathetic attempt to prove the Zetas wrong. You are doing just the opposite, again and again.

p.s. A mod bumping the paid debunker thread up is also evidence that the thread is controlled.
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Paid Shill Handbook:

When all else fails, just make stuff up and pretend like you did not.

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You hypocrite.

Lens flare is not Nibs, yet you tell everyone else it is, and that is all you have, lens flare.


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