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It's all good here bro. I was reading your thread about what happened to your dog. Very sad to hear bro.
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Good to hear you're doing OK - and as far as my dog, what come around goes around. I'm not the vengeful type but....
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Melfy is **MUCH** more DEROGATORY and DEMEANING. It's NOT a valid comparison.

Did you ever think that maybe I, or anyone else, felt the same way about being called a paid shill or government agent?

No, obviously, you did not.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker




Probably.
The shill argument has gone BOTH ways ... but, me thinks it started with "Nancy" supporters. If you want to rise above this childish name calling, back and forth, then lead by example Circuit Breaker. ZetaMax is simply asking that you not call him that anymore ... it's that simple. Surely you don't hate him, or need to teach him any lessons? You, Circuit Breaker, and I've been watching, are trying a new way of conversation, without all the crap (BTW, Dr Postman is doing this too) and it mostly seems like it is working. The odd bullshit comment goes through, but, for the most part you have stuck to your words. There is no way in hell that you or any of the debunkers will ever be able to understand the mindset of people that find Nancy's words interesting. These people are free to think as they want. They pose no threat to anybody. They (and I consider myself inside of this category ... if there is one) just want to talk about possibilities and talk about things they see that don't match up with what we are being told is so. Nancy might provide some kind of explanation for such things ... no harm no foul. It's the pile on ... it's the insults that create this zoo. And I know it goes both ways. There may be no way to fix this stupidity, but, I've seen your efforts, and I've also seen Dr Postman's efforts, and I want you to know that it has not gone unnoticed. BUT, it could be even better (I know, coming from me, what a stretch, eh?)

If ZetaMax wants to be on the fence, and I there with him, whats the harm in leaving us there?

Does it hurt anybody?

I know, mudslinging seems a part of GLP, but, Nancy has her message, and even Trinity seems to want to be part of it. It is what it is ... time will tell the truth of the matter, and we all have some time. I don't even know what I'm trying to tell you, just that, life goes on, no matter what. You're doing your thing, they're doing their thing, and in the end all this bickering back and forth might be a giant waste of time (maybe I'm wrong ...) but, pages and pages of pointless arguments and stupid character assassinating cartoons etc might be in nobody's best interest. Isn't there something more interesting to talk about?

I don't have the time to be here,but when I do, it just seems to be stupid bickering, especially on the threads I want to see the most. Maybe this is what GLP is about, but can't it be a bit better than this? Can the bar be set a little higher ... both ways?

Can the dumb insults be stopped? ZetaMax hasn't really done anything to the debunkers but try and debate. I know it goes both ways, but he, of anybody here has tried his damndest to engage your side with questions and facts he believes in. Show him by example what your thoughts are. The bullying doesn't work with him (and I'm not singling you out here).

Is him being on the fence that offensive to anybody here?

Really?
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That's me, believe it or not, NLI, above.
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If ZetaMax wants to be on the fence, and I there with him, whats the harm in leaving us there?

Does it hurt anybody?

Is him being on the fence that offensive to anybody here?

Really?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 681262


He isn't on the fence. He is a blatant apologist for Nancy.

Grow up. If you come to a public forum and post bullshit you are going to get called on it! It's as simple as that. If Nancy wanted to avoid the 'debunkers' (i.e. anyone who doesn't believe her shit) she could set up a private chat room on her site, but she doesn't.

People have to right to disagree. If you (or ZM) can't take that, tough.

What IS offensive to many is Nancy's continual lies and attempts to deceive. If you choose to fall for them that's your problem.
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Can the dumb insults be stopped? ZetaMax hasn't really done anything to the debunkers but try and debate.
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Really?

Another List may be needed for this one.
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If ZetaMax wants to be on the fence, and I there with him, whats the harm in leaving us there?

Does it hurt anybody?

Is him being on the fence that offensive to anybody here?

Really?


He isn't on the fence. He is a blatant apologist for Nancy.

Grow up. If you come to a public forum and post bullshit you are going to get called on it! It's as simple as that. If Nancy wanted to avoid the 'debunkers' (i.e. anyone who doesn't believe her shit) she could set up a private chat room on her site, but she doesn't.

People have to right to disagree. If you (or ZM) can't take that, tough.

What IS offensive to many is Nancy's continual lies and attempts to deceive. If you choose to fall for them that's your problem.
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Good posting with excellent points.
And by the way we all know that Luser is totally full of himself. He has spent years on GLP being offensive to many a poster and just not on threads related to the Zetatalk subject.
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I know, mudslinging seems a part of GLP, but, Nancy has her message, and even Trinity seems to want to be part of it. It is what it is ... time will tell the truth of the matter, and we all have some time. I don't even know what I'm trying to tell you, just that, life goes on, no matter what. You're doing your thing, they're doing their thing, and in the end all this bickering back and forth might be a giant waste of time (maybe I'm wrong ...) but, pages and pages of pointless arguments and stupid character assassinating cartoons etc might be in nobody's best interest. Isn't there something more interesting to talk about?


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Yes. Proof of the veracity of ZetaTalk. Care to offer any?
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from the last chat:
Why is nancy a mod here?And why does she delete posts questioning her supposed authenticity? s226
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Chuckle - because she is insane.
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A "lie" is a lie only if there is a possibility of anyone thinking it is the "truth". Otherwise, it is a form or sarcasm. Surely NO ONE would think for a minute that Hap "really" is designated "Agent 88" by anyone other than me, and Piscesnator who originally came up with it. It's like saying "your mother is a snake". It may be unflattering, but it's not a "lie" - because it's OBVIOUSLY untrue.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


You're trying to say that you never accused Hap of being a governement agent and/or that no one else believed that accusation? What a piece of work you are!
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Life Is But A Dream!!
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from the last chat:

Why is nancy a mod here?And why does she delete posts questioning her supposed authenticity? s226

Chuckle - because she is insane.
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Yep lol4me very insane yes_sir
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RIP Mary Travers 1936-2009


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Probably.
The shill argument has gone BOTH ways ... but, me thinks it started with "Nancy" supporters. If you want to rise above this childish name calling, back and forth, then lead by example Circuit Breaker. ZetaMax is simply asking that you not call him that anymore ... it's that simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 681262

And I've asked not to be called a "paid shill" or "government agent." As the saying goes, "Do unto others as you would have them do onto you." Since Max continues call me a shill, I will continue calling him a shill. I don't call him Melfy...although I may have said it once. But, by and large, the name comes from other participants of this forum.

If ZetaMax wants to be on the fence, and I there with him, whats the harm in leaving us there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 681262

Except that his actions are not those of a "fence sitter." If he were, he wouldn't try so hard to explain away Nancy's failures or false claims.

Does it hurt anybody?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 681262

No. Does asking for supporting evidence hurt anyone? Seeing is believing.

ZetaMax hasn't really done anything to the debunkers but try and debate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 681262

Something I've acknowledged...even if I thought some of his posts were silly.

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That's me, believe it or not, NLI, above.
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I suspected as much. I just needed to scroll down further to see that.

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ZetaMax hasn't really done anything to the debunkers but try and debate. I know it goes both ways, but he, of anybody here has tried his damndest to engage your side with questions and facts he believes in.
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Really? Can you cite an example or two? I've been trying to get Max into an honest debate of the facts for years with no success.
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Fall is coming. I actually had to break out the sweats this morning for my run because it was 45...10 degrees cooler than it had been. And....Pikes Peak has snow on it again thanks to yesterday's cool front.

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Melfy is **MUCH** more DEROGATORY and DEMEANING. It's NOT a valid comparison.

Did you ever think that maybe I, or anyone else, felt the same way about being called a paid shill or government agent?

No, obviously, you did not.




Probably.
The shill argument has gone BOTH ways ... but, me thinks it started with "Nancy" supporters. If you want to rise above this childish name calling, back and forth, then lead by example Circuit Breaker. ZetaMax is simply asking that you not call him that anymore ... it's that simple. Surely you don't hate him, or need to teach him any lessons? You, Circuit Breaker, and I've been watching, are trying a new way of conversation, without all the crap (BTW, Dr Postman is doing this too) and it mostly seems like it is working. The odd bullshit comment goes through, but, for the most part you have stuck to your words. There is no way in hell that you or any of the debunkers will ever be able to understand the mindset of people that find Nancy's words interesting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 681262


Utterly false. **I** originally found Nancy's output interesting until the images came out and it became clear that she was full of shit and lying.

These people are free to think as they want. They pose no threat to anybody.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 681262


Bullshit. The mindset which is triggered by belief in Zetatalk has caused many people to take actions which have been harmfull. Don't forget the people in the NW US who got arrested for building a retreat in the national forest to save them from Planet X. It also cost them TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS in equipment and supplies.

They (and I consider myself inside of this category ... if there is one) just want to talk about possibilities and talk about things they see that don't match up with what we are being told is so. Nancy might provide some kind of explanation for such things ... no harm no foul. It's the pile on ... it's the insults that create this zoo. And I know it goes both ways. There may be no way to fix this stupidity, but, I've seen your efforts, and I've also seen Dr Postman's efforts, and I want you to know that it has not gone unnoticed. BUT, it could be even better (I know, coming from me, what a stretch, eh?)

If ZetaMax wants to be on the fence, and I there with him, whats the harm in leaving us there?

Does it hurt anybody?

I know, mudslinging seems a part of GLP, but, Nancy has her message, and even Trinity seems to want to be part of it. It is what it is ... time will tell the truth of the matter, and we all have some time. I don't even know what I'm trying to tell you, just that, life goes on, no matter what. You're doing your thing, they're doing their thing, and in the end all this bickering back and forth might be a giant waste of time (maybe I'm wrong ...) but, pages and pages of pointless arguments and stupid character assassinating cartoons etc might be in nobody's best interest. Isn't there something more interesting to talk about?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 681262


Debunkers have tried, time and time again, to discuss Nancy's claims to little avail. Her followers won't participate. They will only call SHILL and run away.

I don't have the time to be here,but when I do, it just seems to be stupid bickering, especially on the threads I want to see the most. Maybe this is what GLP is about, but can't it be a bit better than this? Can the bar be set a little higher ... both ways?

Can the dumb insults be stopped? ZetaMax hasn't really done anything to the debunkers but try and debate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 681262


Yes, at one time Maxie tried to debate, but his responses consisted primarily of playing word games. That quickly deteriorated into insipid baiting to keep the dialog churning.

I know it goes both ways, but he, of anybody here has tried his damndest to engage your side with questions and facts he believes in. Show him by example what your thoughts are. The bullying doesn't work with him (and I'm not singling you out here).

Is him being on the fence that offensive to anybody here?

Really?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 681262


No, but his CLAIMING to be on the fence when he clearly is NOT is certainly offensive. It insults our intelligence.
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Being "on the fence" would be defending or criticizing each side equally. When have you EVER seen Max defend the debunker side or criticize Nancy's side?
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Being "on the fence" would be defending or criticizing each side equally. When have you EVER seen Max defend the debunker side or criticize Nancy's side?
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Exactly!

All (s)he does is twist words, criticize 'debunkers' and make excuses for Nancy. How is that 'fence-sitting'?
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 Quoting: The Lone Ranger

Lies!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Maxie's main talent is as a masterbaiter.
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Maxie's main talent is as a masterbaiter.
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Big_smile Yep!!
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Lies!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


You certainly know about LIES, Melfy!
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Not sure why, but all embedded Youtubes are only showing as broken images for me starting recently. Any ideas?
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Lies!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


What's the matter Melfy a bit hot here in the kitchen for you?
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Lies!


What's the matter Melfy a bit hot here in the kitchen for you?
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger

Or, too much chilis in the meal, Melfy?
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Lies!


What's the matter Melfy a bit hot here in the kitchen for you?
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger

I am recovering from the shock that you would stoop so LOW after I asked you nicely not to lampoon and ridicule me.
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Lies!


What's the matter Melfy a bit hot here in the kitchen for you?

I am recovering from the shock that you would stoop so LOW after I asked you nicely not to lampoon and ridicule me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 773832



Yet you have no problem with pure lies like "paid shill" and "government agent."

You made your bed, melfy, now you get to lie in it. And lying is what you do best, right?
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

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NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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Max, I don't know why you even hang out here if you are so offended. Not that you aren't welcome here, but aren't you the one that whined for months about debunkers on Nancy's threads? Didn't you say that you wished the debunkers would stay off her threads so you and the other sockpuppets and supporters could discuss ZetaTalk in a debunker free environment? Didn't you complain that no meaningful discussion was possible because the debunkers disrupted the ZetaTalk threads? And we gave you what you asked for. We have stayed off Nancy's threads for months now, and instead of discussing Zetatalk with others that believe, you prefer to come here and bait the debunkers. A while back TLR even did a chart of your posts on this thread compared to your posts on Nancy's thread. It proved that you don't come here to discuss with like minded people like you claimed a few months back. You come here to banter with debunkers and support Nancy unconditionally. You say you never lied. I would say the above is pretty close to a lie. The nickname that you hate came about because you refused to lay off the paid debunker crap when asked to do so. You like to dish it out, but you are a wimp when the shoe is on the other foot.

I can think of another thing Maxi isn't truthful about. He says he is "on the fence". We all know that Maxi fell off the fence into Nancy's back yard a long time ago.

Lastly, by supporting the "white lie", you are participating in perpetuating a lie, Max, which would make you a liar.

BTW Lone Ranger, love the videos. I think Max is uncomfortable because it's one thing to read his words on a page, but when you hear it out loud you see just how stupid it sounds. You are holding up a mirror and Max doesn't like to face his own idiocies.

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