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Hydra

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Nancy Talk is irrelevant to me. It is important what the Zetas have to say. My personal opinion is irrelevant to you, too because you are unwilling to read Zetatalk, hence no discussion (with you) can take place.
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Explain this from 2008:
[link to www.youtube.com]


@5:23
"Per the Zetas, the pole shift will not happen in 2012, but will occur before that date."


Zetas lying again.

How's that Indonesia sinking thing going? That was supposed to happen in 2010, then modified to the first few weeks of 2011.
Let's see:
December 2010 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2011 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2012 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2013 - Indonesia still stubbornly above the waves.

Zetas lying again.

How about those 3 years of global crop failure causing global famines in 2000, 2001, 2002 leading up to the PX induced pole shift in 2003?
Remember, the PS can't happen until there has been 3 years of global crop failures... the Great White Lie didn't negate that ZetaNan prediction.
So we have at least 3 years of no pole shift... correct?

Zetatards.
A special kind of stupid.


R
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No Pole Shift Before Dec 21, 2012
ZETAS WRONG AGAIN
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Last Edited by Hydra on 03/19/2013 12:55 PM
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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Have you even tried to search on the poleshift.ning?
[link to poleshift.ning.com] and follow the links in question #Q6 for a better understanding.
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In other words, whenever they are caught in a lie or failed prediction they get to make up new rules or whatever excuse and you will believe it. Heh...
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Have you even tried to search on the poleshift.ning?
[link to poleshift.ning.com] and follow the links in question #Q6 for a better understanding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


In other words, whenever they are caught in a lie or failed prediction they get to make up new rules or whatever excuse and you will believe it. Heh...
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Nope. Wrong.
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Nancy Talk is irrelevant to me. It is important what the Zetas have to say. My personal opinion is irrelevant to you, too because you are unwilling to read Zetatalk, hence no discussion (with you) can take place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Explain this from 2008:
[link to www.youtube.com]


@5:23
"Per the Zetas, the pole shift will not happen in 2012, but will occur before that date."


Zetas lying again.

How's that Indonesia sinking thing going? That was supposed to happen in 2010, then modified to the first few weeks of 2011.
Let's see:
December 2010 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2011 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2012 - Indonesia above the waves.
January 2013 - Indonesia still stubbornly above the waves.

Zetas lying again.

How about those 3 years of global crop failure causing global famines in 2000, 2001, 2002 leading up to the PX induced pole shift in 2003?
Remember, the PS can't happen until there has been 3 years of global crop failures... the Great White Lie didn't negate that ZetaNan prediction.
So we have at least 3 years of no pole shift... correct?

Zetatards.
A special kind of stupid.


R
 Quoting: R 9938203


Have you even tried to search on the poleshift.ning?
[link to poleshift.ning.com] and follow the links in question #Q6 for a better understanding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Yes, I've seen NanZeta squirm before when her pronouncements are obviously going to be shown to be insane.
She makes some idiotic blanket edict such as 'We aren't allowed to give a date' and that is supposed to make the embarrassing citation go away.
It doesn't.
The statement was made when NanZeta's delusions thought that the PS would definitely happen before 2012.
Damage control is not exactly accuracy.

How about Indonesia?
Crop Failures?
Satellite Failures?
No regime change in Iraq?
"Weeks, not months" back in summer 2003?
"Certain death" for the ISS occupants winter 2003-2004?
etc, etc, etc.

Zetas wrong again, and again and again and...
Almost like they were as dumb as a little old lady in Wisconsin.

Tards.


R.
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Have you even tried to search on the poleshift.ning?
[link to poleshift.ning.com] and follow the links in question #Q6 for a better understanding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


In other words, whenever they are caught in a lie or failed prediction they get to make up new rules or whatever excuse and you will believe it. Heh...
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Nope. Wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Actually, anyone with their full faculties intact would see, over time, that what I said was correct.

I was about to challenge you to support another "Zeta" false claim, but why bother, since you would simply, dance, dodge and refuse. Yawn.
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Have you even tried to search on the poleshift.ning?
[link to poleshift.ning.com] and follow the links in question #Q6 for a better understanding.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


In other words, whenever they are caught in a lie or failed prediction they get to make up new rules or whatever excuse and you will believe it. Heh...
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Nope. Wrong.
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"Nope" is not an argument. Learn that please.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision

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ZetaTalk claims to be 100 percent accurate. If you come to the first point where it is not accurate - it's done.

Another example:


Earth Twin
ZetaTalk: Earth Twin

written on Oct 15, 1995
"... your Earth has a dead twin that shares her orbit and is placed so exactly opposite the Earth that it can never be seen. ..."

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

I take the easy approach and just quote Wikipedia.
If one of the Poleshit-Ningers thinks, Wikipedia is wrong: Do the math and prove it wrong.

"... if such a planet actually existed it would be detectable from Earth, according to the laws of physics and cosmology, for a number of reasons.
* Earth's orbit is elliptical, while a Counter-Earth would have difficulty staying 180 degrees from Earth unless both planets' orbits were circular. Following Kepler's second law, a planet revolves faster when it is close to the star, so a Counter-Earth following the Earth on the same orbit with half a year of delay would sometimes be visible from Earth.
* It would have gravitational influence upon the other planets, comets and man-made probes of the Solar System. No such influence has been detected, and indeed space probes sent to Venus, Mars and other places could not have successfully flown by or landed on their targets if a Counter-Earth existed.
* Furthermore, the mass of the planet Jupiter is so great it affects the movement of the sun, preventing it from blocking the view of a planet 180 degrees from earth. Jupiter actually revolves not around the sun but a point (a "barycenter") lying outside of the Sun, which the Sun in turn revolves around. Since part of the Sun would have to lie in the barycenter to block Earth's view of a Counter-Earth, this slight effect on the position of the Sun (and the fact that this orbital rotation is not synchronous with Earth's orbit) means a Counter-Earth should sometimes be visible from Earth.
* Any planetary sized body 180 degrees from Earth should also have been visible to some space probes, such as NASA's STEREO coronagraph probes (two spacecraft launched into orbits around the sun in 2006, one farther ahead of and one behind the Earth's orbit) which would have seen the Counter-Earth during the first half of 2007. The separation of the STEREO spacecraft from Earth would give them a view of the Lagrangian "L3" point during the early phase of the mission."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Counter Earth (Earth Twin) not possible.
ZETAS WRONG AGAIN

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
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Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


So, this is when you showed up and started promoting the "accuracy" of Zetatalk. If you don't care to take the items on that page of Zetatalk, one by one, and support them logically, then why are you here? What good are you to the Zeta-cult if you just dodge questions?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


The Zetatalk accuracy site [link to www.zetatalk.com] is self explaining. Read and understand.
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The Zetatalk accuracy site [link to www.zetatalk.com] is self explaining. Read and understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

Just from that site:


Earth Wobble
ZetaTalk: a Twirling Wobble

written May 25 2004
"An Earth wobble developed in 2004, under the influence of Planet X, the Zetas first warning of the extent of this on May 25, 2004. By Nov 27, 2004 the wobble had become obvious. ...
The Figure 8 pattern was documented by people all over the world ..."

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

In 1996 Meade introduced the ETX-Series, computer aided Telescopes. The smallest, ETX-60 and ETX-70, come with the Autostar #494 that can not be updated (lates firmware still from 2001).

Please explain, how a computerised telescope, programmed in (at best) 2001 can still go to and track celestial objects, when Earth wobbles uncontrollable since 2004.

Perhaps you can ask Alberto Cardin - he owns (or owned) one. Unfortunately he never made one of his famous sun shots with his ETX.
Was it because he couldn't find Planet X and the moon swirls with the ETX? Yep - the ETX don't produce lense flares.

No Earth wobble
ZETAS WRONG AGAIN

ZetaTalk claims to be 100 percent accurate. If you come to the first point where it is not accurate - it's done.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


So, this is when you showed up and started promoting the "accuracy" of Zetatalk. If you don't care to take the items on that page of Zetatalk, one by one, and support them logically, then why are you here? What good are you to the Zeta-cult if you just dodge questions?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


The Zetatalk accuracy site [link to www.zetatalk.com] is self explaining. Read and understand.
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You keep posting that link, is it your turn today for the recruitment drive?

Lonely, were so lonely, have no members to call our own, ohhh, were so lonely.
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The Zetatalk accuracy site [link to www.zetatalk.com] is self explaining. Read and understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

Just from that site:


Earth Twin
ZetaTalk: Earth Twin

written on Oct 15, 1995
"... your Earth has a dead twin that shares her orbit and is placed so exactly opposite the Earth that it can never be seen. ..."

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

I take the easy approach and just quote Wikipedia.
If you think, Wikipedia is wrong: Do the math and prove it wrong.

"... if such a planet actually existed it would be detectable from Earth, according to the laws of physics and cosmology, for a number of reasons.
* Earth's orbit is elliptical, while a Counter-Earth would have difficulty staying 180 degrees from Earth unless both planets' orbits were circular. Following Kepler's second law, a planet revolves faster when it is close to the star, so a Counter-Earth following the Earth on the same orbit with half a year of delay would sometimes be visible from Earth.
* It would have gravitational influence upon the other planets, comets and man-made probes of the Solar System. No such influence has been detected, and indeed space probes sent to Venus, Mars and other places could not have successfully flown by or landed on their targets if a Counter-Earth existed.
* Furthermore, the mass of the planet Jupiter is so great it affects the movement of the sun, preventing it from blocking the view of a planet 180 degrees from earth. Jupiter actually revolves not around the sun but a point (a "barycenter") lying outside of the Sun, which the Sun in turn revolves around. Since part of the Sun would have to lie in the barycenter to block Earth's view of a Counter-Earth, this slight effect on the position of the Sun (and the fact that this orbital rotation is not synchronous with Earth's orbit) means a Counter-Earth should sometimes be visible from Earth.
* Any planetary sized body 180 degrees from Earth should also have been visible to some space probes, such as NASA's STEREO coronagraph probes (two spacecraft launched into orbits around the sun in 2006, one farther ahead of and one behind the Earth's orbit) which would have seen the Counter-Earth during the first half of 2007. The separation of the STEREO spacecraft from Earth would give them a view of the Lagrangian "L3" point during the early phase of the mission."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Earth Twin (Counter Earth) not possible.
ZETAS WRONG AGAIN

ZetaTalk claims to be 100 percent accurate. If you come to the first point where it is not accurate - it's done.

Shall I go on?


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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Nancy Talk is irrelevant to me. It is important what the Zetas have to say. My personal opinion is irrelevant to you, too because you are unwilling to read Zetatalk, hence no discussion (with you) can take place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


1)I have read LOTS of Zetatalk. It's a pack of lies.

2) Apparently your opinion is not yours at all, but rather just a regurgitation of Zetatalk, right?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


To 1) I doubt what you say about having read Zetalk but you are somehow correct! I should have said: Read and understand Zetatalk. You simply haven't done so..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


No, you mean read and BELIEVE Zetatalk. I understand what is being said, and it is a pack of lies.

To 2) Like I said: you are unwilling and unable to understand or read zetatalk. To discuss or to answer your question about my opionion is irrelevant.
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You are describing a religion where your opinion is irrelevant. That's the way cults work. I'm asking if YOU believe Earth has been halted in orbit since 2003 and all you can do is refer me to your "Bible". Telling, that.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


[...]You are describing a religion where your opinion is irrelevant.[...]
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


No. I would decribe my religion as follows: obtain the Father's Love in my soul which is then transformed into the very essence of him through new birth (attribute after attribute). You could also say it is devine love when converted into the very essence of the Father. Works through faith and prayer. I Consider Jesus Christ as my brother who brought this message to all of us.

No church, no rituals, no cults, no bible, no tools needed. Just You and God having Jesus on your site.

Men should understand that you can do this while you are incarnated, while you are on the earth plane.
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Babble, Babble, Babble
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How about answering my questions?


Earth Wobble
ZetaTalk: a Twirling Wobble

written May 25 2004
"An Earth wobble developed in 2004, under the influence of Planet X, the Zetas first warning of the extent of this on May 25, 2004. By Nov 27, 2004 the wobble had become obvious. ...
The Figure 8 pattern was documented by people all over the world ..."

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

In 1996 Meade introduced the ETX-Series, computer aided Telescopes. The smallest, ETX-60 and ETX-70, come with the Autostar #494 that can not be updated (lates firmware still from 2001).

Please explain, how a computerised telescope, programmed in (at best) 2001 can still go to and track celestial objects, when Earth wobbles uncontrollable since 2004.
 Quoting: Hydra


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


So, this is when you showed up and started promoting the "accuracy" of Zetatalk. If you don't care to take the items on that page of Zetatalk, one by one, and support them logically, then why are you here? What good are you to the Zeta-cult if you just dodge questions?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


The Zetatalk accuracy site [link to www.zetatalk.com] is self explaining. Read and understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


You keep posting that link, is it your turn today for the recruitment drive?

Lonely, were so lonely, have no members to call our own, ohhh, were so lonely.
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You keep posting that link, is it your turn today for the recruitment drive?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9082510


No.

Lonely, were so lonely, have no members to call our own, ohhh, were so lonely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9082510


I don't understand what you are saying here. I am not alone , if you mean that.
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Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


So, this is when you showed up and started promoting the "accuracy" of Zetatalk. If you don't care to take the items on that page of Zetatalk, one by one, and support them logically, then why are you here? What good are you to the Zeta-cult if you just dodge questions?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


The Zetatalk accuracy site [link to www.zetatalk.com] is self explaining. Read and understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Have read. Have understood. It's a pack of falsehoods, misrepresentations and outright lies.
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Babble, Babble, Babble
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

How about answering my questions?


Earth Wobble
ZetaTalk: a Twirling Wobble

written May 25 2004
"An Earth wobble developed in 2004, under the influence of Planet X, the Zetas first warning of the extent of this on May 25, 2004. By Nov 27, 2004 the wobble had become obvious. ...
The Figure 8 pattern was documented by people all over the world ..."

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

In 1996 Meade introduced the ETX-Series, computer aided Telescopes. The smallest, ETX-60 and ETX-70, come with the Autostar #494 that can not be updated (lates firmware still from 2001).

Please explain, how a computerised telescope, programmed in (at best) 2001 can still go to and track celestial objects, when Earth wobbles uncontrollable since 2004.
 Quoting: Hydra


.
 Quoting: Hydra


Babble, Babble, Babble
 Quoting: Hydra


Babble! Read and understand, you are not doing it otherwise you wouldn't ask me to answer it. There is no need to explain anything to you, don't you get it? Are you lazy or what?
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No. I would decribe my religion as follows: obtain the Father's Love in my soul which is then transformed into the very essence of him through new birth (attribute after attribute). You could also say it is devine love when converted into the very essence of the Father. Works through faith and prayer. I Consider Jesus Christ as my brother who brought this message to all of us.

No church, no rituals, no cults, no bible, no tools needed. Just You and God having Jesus on your site.

Men should understand that you can do this while you are incarnated, while you are on the earth plane.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Zetatalk is clearly the equivalent of your Bible, since whenever questions are put to you, you refer people to that for the answers.
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Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


So, this is when you showed up and started promoting the "accuracy" of Zetatalk. If you don't care to take the items on that page of Zetatalk, one by one, and support them logically, then why are you here? What good are you to the Zeta-cult if you just dodge questions?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


The Zetatalk accuracy site [link to www.zetatalk.com] is self explaining. Read and understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Have read. Have understood. It's a pack of falsehoods, misrepresentations and outright lies.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Your assumption implies that you haven't.
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No. I would decribe my religion as follows: obtain the Father's Love in my soul which is then transformed into the very essence of him through new birth (attribute after attribute). You could also say it is devine love when converted into the very essence of the Father. Works through faith and prayer. I Consider Jesus Christ as my brother who brought this message to all of us.

No church, no rituals, no cults, no bible, no tools needed. Just You and God having Jesus on your site.

Men should understand that you can do this while you are incarnated, while you are on the earth plane.
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Zetatalk is clearly the equivalent of your Bible, since whenever questions are put to you, you refer people to that for the answers.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Nope, incorrect assumption of what zetatalk is for me. You are far away from even the slightest understanding. You are just beeing ignorant here.
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So, this is when you showed up and started promoting the "accuracy" of Zetatalk. If you don't care to take the items on that page of Zetatalk, one by one, and support them logically, then why are you here? What good are you to the Zeta-cult if you just dodge questions?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


The Zetatalk accuracy site [link to www.zetatalk.com] is self explaining. Read and understand.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Have read. Have understood. It's a pack of falsehoods, misrepresentations and outright lies.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Your assumption implies that you haven't.
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What alleged assumption is that?
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Please point to the ZetaTalk, where my question is answered.
Exact link/links please.

If there is no ZetaTalk that answers my specific question, please answer it:


Earth Wobble
ZetaTalk: a Twirling Wobble

written May 25 2004
"An Earth wobble developed in 2004, under the influence of Planet X, the Zetas first warning of the extent of this on May 25, 2004. By Nov 27, 2004 the wobble had become obvious. ...
The Figure 8 pattern was documented by people all over the world ..."

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

In 1996 Meade introduced the ETX-Series, computer aided Telescopes. The smallest, ETX-60 and ETX-70, come with the Autostar #494 that can not be updated (lates firmware still from 2001).

Please explain, how a computerised telescope, programmed in (at best) 2001 can still go to and track celestial objects, when Earth wobbles uncontrollable since 2004.
 Quoting: Hydra


.

Last Edited by Hydra on 03/19/2013 02:39 PM
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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No. I would decribe my religion as follows: obtain the Father's Love in my soul which is then transformed into the very essence of him through new birth (attribute after attribute). You could also say it is devine love when converted into the very essence of the Father. Works through faith and prayer. I Consider Jesus Christ as my brother who brought this message to all of us.

No church, no rituals, no cults, no bible, no tools needed. Just You and God having Jesus on your site.

Men should understand that you can do this while you are incarnated, while you are on the earth plane.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Zetatalk is clearly the equivalent of your Bible, since whenever questions are put to you, you refer people to that for the answers.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Nope, incorrect assumption of what zetatalk is for me. You are far away from even the slightest understanding. You are just beeing ignorant here.
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When pressed for personal views, you refer people to Zetatalk. That is exactly what people do with the Bible. We are going in circles. If I am being ignorant, you are welcome to enlighten me... but you won't... you'll just say: Read Zetatalk. Did that. It'a pack of lies in claims relating to the measureable physical world.
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The Zetatalk accuracy site [link to www.zetatalk.com] is self explaining. Read and understand.
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Have read. Have understood. It's a pack of falsehoods, misrepresentations and outright lies.
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Your assumption implies that you haven't.
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What alleged assumption is that?
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This it is:

It's a pack of falsehoods, misrepresentations and outright lies.
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You claim having read and understood zetatalk entirely but you haven't, which leads inevitable to your false assumption.
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Please point to the ZetaTalk, where my question is answered.
Exact link/links please.

If there is no ZetaTalk that answers my specific question, please answer it:


Earth Wobble
ZetaTalk: a Twirling Wobble

written May 25 2004
"An Earth wobble developed in 2004, under the influence of Planet X, the Zetas first warning of the extent of this on May 25, 2004. By Nov 27, 2004 the wobble had become obvious. ...
The Figure 8 pattern was documented by people all over the world ..."

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

In 1996 Meade introduced the ETX-Series, computer aided Telescopes. The smallest, ETX-60 and ETX-70, come with the Autostar #494 that can not be updated (lates firmware still from 2001).

Please explain, how a computerised telescope, programmed in (at best) 2001 can still go to and track celestial objects, when Earth wobbles uncontrollable since 2004.
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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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Have read. Have understood. It's a pack of falsehoods, misrepresentations and outright lies.
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Your assumption implies that you haven't.
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What alleged assumption is that?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


This it is:

It's a pack of falsehoods, misrepresentations and outright lies.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


You claim having read and understood zetatalk entirely but you haven't, which leads inevitable to your false assumption.
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I made no claim to have read Zetatalk "entirely". Virtually no one can make that claim due to the sheer volume. However, no amount of reading of that site will change the fact that what I HAVE read contains dozens if not hundreds of demonstrably false statements and claims.

You keep touting Zeta "accuracy" and pointing to that list which, in fact, contains falsehood after falsehood. No amount of dancing around the facts, on your part, will change that.
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No. I would decribe my religion as follows: obtain the Father's Love in my soul which is then transformed into the very essence of him through new birth (attribute after attribute). You could also say it is devine love when converted into the very essence of the Father. Works through faith and prayer. I Consider Jesus Christ as my brother who brought this message to all of us.

No church, no rituals, no cults, no bible, no tools needed. Just You and God having Jesus on your site.

Men should understand that you can do this while you are incarnated, while you are on the earth plane.
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Zetatalk is clearly the equivalent of your Bible, since whenever questions are put to you, you refer people to that for the answers.
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Nope, incorrect assumption of what zetatalk is for me. You are far away from even the slightest understanding. You are just beeing ignorant here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


When pressed for personal views, you refer people to Zetatalk. That is exactly what people do with the Bible. We are going in circles. If I am being ignorant, you are welcome to enlighten me... but you won't... you'll just say: Read Zetatalk. Did that. It'a pack of lies in claims relating to the measureable physical world.
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See? That's why I won't answer your question(s). I can not enlighten you because we cannot be on the same page regarding zetatalk because you deny beeing there, free will at work so to speak. You finally made a correct statement of us running in circles and it took so long for you? No wonder that a concept the zetas present to us takes so long to be understood.
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Please point to the ZetaTalk, where my question is answered. Exact link/links please.

If you can't, I must assume that the Zetas didn't address this point because they don't know what to answer.


Earth Wobble
ZetaTalk: a Twirling Wobble

written May 25 2004
"An Earth wobble developed in 2004, under the influence of Planet X, the Zetas first warning of the extent of this on May 25, 2004. By Nov 27, 2004 the wobble had become obvious. ...
The Figure 8 pattern was documented by people all over the world ..."

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

In 1996 Meade introduced the ETX-Series, computer aided Telescopes. The smallest, ETX-60 and ETX-70, come with the Autostar #494 that can not be updated (lates firmware still from 2001).

Please explain, how a computerised telescope, programmed in (at best) 2001 can still go to and track celestial objects, when Earth wobbles uncontrollable since 2004.
 Quoting: Hydra


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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Zetatalk is clearly the equivalent of your Bible, since whenever questions are put to you, you refer people to that for the answers.
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Nope, incorrect assumption of what zetatalk is for me. You are far away from even the slightest understanding. You are just beeing ignorant here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


When pressed for personal views, you refer people to Zetatalk. That is exactly what people do with the Bible. We are going in circles. If I am being ignorant, you are welcome to enlighten me... but you won't... you'll just say: Read Zetatalk. Did that. It'a pack of lies in claims relating to the measureable physical world.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


See? That's why I won't answer your question(s). I can not enlighten you because we cannot be on the same page regarding zetatalk because you deny beeing there, free will at work so to speak. You finally made a correct statement of us running in circles and it took so long for you? No wonder that a concept the zetas present to us takes so long to be understood.
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Do you believe the poleshift is coming?
Can you explain why the poleshift, predicted to happen in 2003 by the Zetas, didn't happen?
Are the Zetas lying?
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Zetatalk is clearly the equivalent of your Bible, since whenever questions are put to you, you refer people to that for the answers.
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Nope, incorrect assumption of what zetatalk is for me. You are far away from even the slightest understanding. You are just beeing ignorant here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


When pressed for personal views, you refer people to Zetatalk. That is exactly what people do with the Bible. We are going in circles. If I am being ignorant, you are welcome to enlighten me... but you won't... you'll just say: Read Zetatalk. Did that. It'a pack of lies in claims relating to the measureable physical world.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


See? That's why I won't answer your question(s). I can not enlighten you because we cannot be on the same page regarding zetatalk because you deny beeing there, free will at work so to speak.
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What does "on the same page" mean? It appears to mean "believe what Zetatalk says", is that correct?

You finally made a correct statement of us running in circles and it took so long for you? No wonder that a concept the zetas present to us takes so long to be understood.
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So you assert that I just don't properly understand things like the claim that Earth is halted in orbit? What is it about that that you feel I don't understand?

Oh, it's been obvious that we were going in circles for some time now. I just enjoy seeing you dance.
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It's about time for the Kiwi AC to take over the trolling, isn't it?

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