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Nancy sure has been busy this week. First she sent in Free Store, then AC 2411656 (aka Ann S), followed by AC 36382091. I wish she would bring Luser back. He was funny.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I'm not too sure they are all Zetadrones.

Marshall Masters is currently emulating Ninny in having his minions investigate lens flares at some volcano in Costa Rica.
He's got to do something since he's having an hard time selling his DVDs and books about 'Surviving 2012 and the Pole Shift' in 2013.
Planet X Forecast for April 2007 to July 2014 FREE VERSION (.pdf):
[link to www.nibiru2012.it]
Some howlers from 2007 by the male Nancy Lieder:

"May 15, 2009 - Distance from Sun 11AU
Viewing requires high powered binoculars or small telescope
-Faint Reddish Object"

"May 15, 2011 - Distance from Sun 6.4AU
...becomes bright enough for naked-eye observation in the Southern hemisphere.
-Easily Noticable
-Dimly Visible During the Day
-Bright Reddish Object at Night"
Ha. 2011 it's visible "during the day". That would make it about mag -4. How'd that work out for you Mancy Liesters?
Masters even copies Ninnies obsession with May 15th.

"December 21, 2012 - Distance from Sun 3.0AU
... trigers strong electrical interaction with Sun.
Object will appear as a second Sun.
It will be bright red and ~ the size of the moon."
You guys all remember that immensely bright object in the sky don't you?
It was as big as the moon; which Marshall and Jacko, renown phizzycysts they be, apparently don't realize is also the size of the sun.
Gee Marshall, thanks for the warning and the DVDs and books on how to survive the passage of PX in 2012.
We couldn't have made it through without you. Now what've you got to sell?
Snicker.

And his hilarious webpage that hasn't been scrubbed yet, but I predict... :
[link to yowusa.com]
and the 2nd page:
[link to yowusa.com]
"Observing Planet X / Nibiru
Yowusa.com, 24-Mar-2009
Jacco van der Worp, MSc
Marshall Masters"

The 2nd page is where the hilarity ensues:
Here we find out how Marshall and Wacko-Jacko came up with their "forecast":
"It is also important to note that while the unproven Planet X observation theory of Dr. Harrington is a key element in our research, it is but one of many. Other data we used in the formulation of our forecast include:
- Orbit perturbations of the outer planets
- Temperatures of the cold outer bodies rising beyond seasonal effects
- Electrical phenomena around planets and comets
- Observations of the Sun unleashing plasma towards a single direction
- Recent Southward deformation of the Earth's magnetic field
This is only a partial list of the data. There is much more, ..."

I'd like to see those 'calculations'. I'm sure they involved ritual blood-letting and channelling Nostradamus.

More:
"By late 2011, everyone on the Earth will be able to stand out in their back yard and view it in the night sky with a pair of binoculars. By 2012, it will look like a second sun in the sky — everywhere"
I'd call that a Nancy Lieder sized fail.

The reason I point this out is that Masters has a financial interest in sending his shills out to drum up business so some of the PXers you encounter will honestly tell you they don't follow Ninny... they just don't tell you they are following her male clone - Marshall Masters.

Have fun.


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Bit confused here...last edited by Lady Jane Smith? A mod?
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Fair enough by this mod. My overlenght posting before has been removed but I coinsider this as fair, it was too long.
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Quick thinking but doesn't wash.
 Quoting: Elemental


What doe it doesn't wash mean?
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That the excuse doesn't work.
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Nancy sure has been busy this week. First she sent in Free Store, then AC 2411656 (aka Ann S), followed by AC 36382091. I wish she would bring Luser back. He was funny.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I'm not too sure they are all Zetadrones.

Marshall Masters is currently emulating Ninny in having his minions investigate lens flares at some volcano in Costa Rica.
He's got to do something since he's having an hard time selling his DVDs and books about 'Surviving 2012 and the Pole Shift' in 2013.

The reason I point this out is that Masters has a financial interest in sending his shills out to drum up business so some of the PXers you encounter will honestly tell you they don't follow Ninny... they just don't tell you they are following her male clone - Marshall Masters.

Have fun.


R
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Thanks for the notice!
I can imagine how hard it must be selling "how to survive 2012 and the poleshift" hehe...

Nancy almost made the same mistake but it seems they're learning from each other..
"People hate the truth, luckily the truth doesn't care."
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Try to fill your mind with spiritual thoughts, that'll help you.
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You mean like those thoughts:
"Hm.. why bother to change the present when PX is going to wipe out everything...?"

or

"If those concepts about morale ring true does it mean the rest of ZT true aswell?"

Oh right... that hasn't much to do with spirituality.

I prefer to rather DO than just THINK...
Today it ment sharing my meal with a homeless guy - believe it or not.



Still no answer.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Wait a second:
Herewith, you're officially ignored due to redundant shilling and evading questions.
Come back when you got some arguments.
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Try to fill your mind with spiritual thoughts, that'll help you.
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You mean like those thoughts:
"Hm.. why bother to change the present when PX is going to wipe out everything...?"

or

"If those concepts about morale ring true does it mean the rest of ZT true aswell?"

Oh right... that hasn't much to do with spirituality.

I prefer to rather DO than just THINK...
Today it ment sharing my meal with a homeless guy - believe it or not.



Still no answer.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Wait a second:
Herewith, you're officially ignored due to redundant shilling and evading questions.
Come back when you got some arguments.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Suspected that would be following. tounge
As long as you don't just copy n paste zetababble all is fine...

After all we want to hear from YOU, how you justify those errorenous ZT to yourself...

If we want to read ZetaBS we very well know where to find it.

Also,
I still haven't answered Hydras question and don't want to because I do not have a plausible answer...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward (edited) 36382091


Noted.. hf

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 03/21/2013 07:23 AM
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Bit confused here...last edited by Lady Jane Smith? A mod?
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Since Poleshit-Nancy once complained about copyright infringement (when debunkers copied parts of her ZetaBabble) I thought I do her a favour and report that someone had copied complete articles from the Poleshit.ning.

cool2

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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Nancy sure has been busy this week. First she sent in Free Store, then AC 2411656 (aka Ann S), followed by AC 36382091. I wish she would bring Luser back. He was funny.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I'm not too sure they are all Zetadrones.

Marshall Masters is currently emulating Ninny in having his minions investigate lens flares at some volcano in Costa Rica.
He's got to do something since he's having an hard time selling his DVDs and books about 'Surviving 2012 and the Pole Shift' in 2013.
Planet X Forecast for April 2007 to July 2014 FREE VERSION (.pdf):
[link to www.nibiru2012.it]
Some howlers from 2007 by the male Nancy Lieder:

"May 15, 2009 - Distance from Sun 11AU
Viewing requires high powered binoculars or small telescope
-Faint Reddish Object"

"May 15, 2011 - Distance from Sun 6.4AU
...becomes bright enough for naked-eye observation in the Southern hemisphere.
-Easily Noticable
-Dimly Visible During the Day
-Bright Reddish Object at Night"
Ha. 2011 it's visible "during the day". That would make it about mag -4. How'd that work out for you Mancy Liesters?
Masters even copies Ninnies obsession with May 15th.

"December 21, 2012 - Distance from Sun 3.0AU
... trigers strong electrical interaction with Sun.
Object will appear as a second Sun.
It will be bright red and ~ the size of the moon."
You guys all remember that immensely bright object in the sky don't you?
It was as big as the moon; which Marshall and Jacko, renown phizzycysts they be, apparently don't realize is also the size of the sun.
Gee Marshall, thanks for the warning and the DVDs and books on how to survive the passage of PX in 2012.
We couldn't have made it through without you. Now what've you got to sell?
Snicker.

And his hilarious webpage that hasn't been scrubbed yet, but I predict... :
[link to yowusa.com]
and the 2nd page:
[link to yowusa.com]
"Observing Planet X / Nibiru
Yowusa.com, 24-Mar-2009
Jacco van der Worp, MSc
Marshall Masters"

The 2nd page is where the hilarity ensues:
Here we find out how Marshall and Wacko-Jacko came up with their "forecast":
"It is also important to note that while the unproven Planet X observation theory of Dr. Harrington is a key element in our research, it is but one of many. Other data we used in the formulation of our forecast include:
- Orbit perturbations of the outer planets
- Temperatures of the cold outer bodies rising beyond seasonal effects
- Electrical phenomena around planets and comets
- Observations of the Sun unleashing plasma towards a single direction
- Recent Southward deformation of the Earth's magnetic field
This is only a partial list of the data. There is much more, ..."

I'd like to see those 'calculations'. I'm sure they involved ritual blood-letting and channelling Nostradamus.

More:
"By late 2011, everyone on the Earth will be able to stand out in their back yard and view it in the night sky with a pair of binoculars. By 2012, it will look like a second sun in the sky — everywhere"
I'd call that a Nancy Lieder sized fail.

The reason I point this out is that Masters has a financial interest in sending his shills out to drum up business so some of the PXers you encounter will honestly tell you they don't follow Ninny... they just don't tell you they are following her male clone - Marshall Masters.

Have fun.


R
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Good finds. This whole thing has gotten so complicated and has so many side-players that it has become near impossible to keep track of it/them all.
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I still haven't answered Hydras question and don't want to because I do not have a plausible answer...
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Noted.. hf
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Did you noticed that too, is what bugs me?
As if you have an answer, or at least an idea, I would look forward hear it.

In this case I would even accept "Nope" as an answer!

That you read these words is apparent, so ignoring is considered you don't have a plausible answer.

Scientists have an answer. There is no Planet X and all planets move exactly as predicted(calculated) years ago.

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 03/21/2013 07:46 AM
"People hate the truth, luckily the truth doesn't care."
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AC 36382091, Are you in the mood for some action?

How about a hypothesis and some experiments:

Hypothesis:
Intruder: pX, 3657 years, elliptical orbit = periodic poleshifts = periodic ground- and magnetic-adjustments around every 3657 years = lots of ash and ground-displacement, lots of dieoff around every 3657years.


Experiment:

Dig up a mountain, get some piece of sediment-rock from various places. Analyse them. Get some information on O16/18-dating. See if there are any typical leftovers from the conclusions above. Get some MOR-basalt and check its age and magnetic orientation. Remember elliptical orbit = periodic displacements = poleshift = huge displacements = volcanic ash etc = around every 3657 years.

If you don't find such a pattern the idea of the Hypothesis sounds disconfirmed - doesn't it?


(Joker)
Ask a geologist, or google up what was concluded so far if you trust these sources.

Here an example [link to platetectonics.pwnet.org]

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 03/21/2013 07:44 AM
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[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by ann s. 2 hours ago
Noticed the paid shills at GLP can never, ever concede ZetaTalk is correct about anything. So they are pretending ZetaTalk fans are not still banned from posting at GLP. I am still banned, today.

(snip)

look, Ann... many of us have been banned in the past and there are clearly a couple of Zetatalk supporters posting on this thread in the last couple of days. This means what you are saying is obviously false. Get a grip.
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What a joke. I used to get banned almost every week when Nancy was a mod here. Sometimes even the good Dr. Postman could do nothing about it and I had to just ride it out. Sometimes I get caught in IP bans, I think we all do from time to time. It used to be that posting the dog video got you auto banned. The only Nancy fans I know of to be banned are Max and his alter ego volar, and it wasn't for defending Nancy, it was for being an ass about threats made to a member of the forum. Freestore has been banned several times, not because he defends Nancy, but because he tends to have meltdowns. I remember when one of Nancy's sock puppets got Nancy banned, and then Nancy had to go to the library to beg for the ban to be lifted. Of course the story was that elle was her neighbour using her computer. If all of the ningsters are banned here, then how do they know what we talk about?

Nancy did a really stupid thing when she left for the ning and started bad mouthing this forum and the owner. She could have stayed and with a paid membership she could have deleted comments to her hearts content. I guess she couldn't co exist on a forum that allowed other people to post threads in counter point to her BS. Nancy hates this thread because it proved to be more popular than any of hers after the debunkers started boycotting her threads. Just look at this thread. More than 1100 pages, after two prunings of posts, and still not one zetatard has posted any proof to back up any of her claims. I guess all they have is the paid debunker argument.
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ZetaTalk about NASA’s history of discovery on rogue planets

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

BS

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Two links in that one, they are upping their game.
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Bit confused here...last edited by Lady Jane Smith? A mod?
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Well, well, well, nothing more needed to say there.
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Yes - Ann S. is very funny. She' thoroughly convinced this announcement is going to happen any minute now. Pretty much to the point of being arrogant about it. But I highly suspect that she'd refuse to make a monetary wager on it...which would only indicate that she has doubt about the announcement happening. I was going to say that she'll quiet down as the months go by and no announcement is made, but this is Ann we're talking about here. Whatever excuse Nancy comes up with to explain why it hasn't happened - Ann will buy it. Maybe her and Free Store should hook up.
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whaz up???...is Nancy still kicking it????

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What a joke. I used to get banned almost every week when Nancy was a mod here. Sometimes even the good Dr. Postman could do nothing about it and I had to just ride it out. Sometimes I get caught in IP bans, I think we all do from time to time. It used to be that posting the dog video got you auto banned. The only Nancy fans I know of to be banned are Max and his alter ego volar, and it wasn't for defending Nancy, it was for being an ass about threats made to a member of the forum. Freestore has been banned several times, not because he defends Nancy, but because he tends to have meltdowns. I remember when one of Nancy's sock puppets got Nancy banned, and then Nancy had to go to the library to beg for the ban to be lifted. Of course the story was that elle was her neighbour using her computer. If all of the ningsters are banned here, then how do they know what we talk about?
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laugh
Nancy did a really stupid thing when she left for the ning and started bad mouthing this forum and the owner. She could have stayed and with a paid membership she could have deleted comments to her hearts content. I guess she couldn't co exist on a forum that allowed other people to post threads in counter point to her BS. Nancy hates this thread because it proved to be more popular than any of hers after the debunkers started boycotting her threads. Just look at this thread. More than 1100 pages, after two prunings of posts, and still not one zetatard has posted any proof to back up any of her claims. I guess all they have is the paid debunker argument.
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applause
And of course the argument that all the efforts to counter her BS are supposedly proof of it must be true somehow..otherwise why should people care? - or so..As they don't seem to have a consensus on that one.

Guess the justifications have gotten more irrational over the time and it surely won't take long until someone will repeat those arguments.
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........ I remember when one of Nancy's sock puppets got Nancy banned, and then Nancy had to go to the library to beg for the ban to be lifted. Of course the story was that elle was her neighbour using her computer. If all of the ningsters are banned here, then how do they know what we talk about?
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laugh

 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision

The funniest part was that her sock puppet "elle" was never heard from again. She went on an extended "camping trip". Ann actually sounds a lot like elle. Nancy has a little army of sock puppets.sockpuppet
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Try to fill your mind with spiritual thoughts, that'll help you.
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You mean like those thoughts:
"Hm.. why bother to change the present when PX is going to wipe out everything...?"

or

"If those concepts about morale ring true does it mean the rest of ZT true aswell?"

Oh right... that hasn't much to do with spirituality.

I prefer to rather DO than just THINK...
Today it ment sharing my meal with a homeless guy - believe it or not.



Still no answer.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Wait a second:
Herewith, you're officially ignored due to redundant shilling and evading questions.
Come back when you got some arguments.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Suspected that would be following. tounge
As long as you don't just copy n paste zetababble all is fine...

After all we want to hear from YOU, how you justify those errorenous ZT to yourself...

If we want to read ZetaBS we very well know where to find it.

Also,
I still haven't answered Hydras question and don't want to because I do not have a plausible answer...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Noted.. hf
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Those persons who use abusive/negative words towards people like Nancy and readers of Zetatalk and the poleshift.ning have established an emotional connection to these groups or persons.

Whenever an emotional connection stays unanswered the same way it was once established (due to abusive words for example) it creates even more distress in the minds of those who initialized this connection. The Barricade increases in size.

If you are able to disconnect the first step is done and you can proceed to "fight" your enemy in that you get closer to him than ever before.

Since some (?) debunkers do not distinguish between Nancy and the zetas, disconnecting emotionally from Nancy and the Zetas would be required for the next step.

Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox (without having read ALL the Zetatalk with an opened state of mind and heart to your best knowledge!). OK so far.

Now, since you are disconnected from Nancy and the Zetas you will be able to get closer to what you maybe consider as your "enemy", the Zetas. You automatically are more able to read and understand Zetatalk and its vast amount of information. You then will eventually be able to read Zetatalk with an opened mind, your heart and eventually breaking up the hardened denial of what you read. This is NOT meant to be you being suddenly a Zetatalk believer, no way. This is meant to improve your ability to let any zetatalk information flow through your mind while filtering out what is deemed to be BS for you.

At any time you will have full control about the information you accept or not but you need to know about all the aspects the zetas spoke and speak about, not only about planet x and other scientific stuff. Most importantly it is the spiritual part, the part about the soul.

Every time you think and speak and read about spiritual stuff in general you are automatically reconstructing your mindset and maybe establish a new or brighter pathway to your mind/spirit connection.

Whenever you fall back into old habits this pathway most likely is getting narrower.

The rest is your own journey. Zetatalk can be the spark that helps you or not. Free will was given to you by God, so to speak.

Suddenly it is completely irrelevant to you if there is a Planet X, a pole-shift an announcement by Obama or the like.

Whatever one may believe regarding the source of the Messages from the Zetas through Nancy, the contents are so new to us and revolutionary, yet so compelling by their logic and sublime simplicity, that a serious study of them must be undertaken in order to comprehend their significance and challenge.
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AC 36382091, Are you in the mood for some action?

How about a hypothesis and some experiments:

Hypothesis:
Intruder: pX, 3657 years, elliptical orbit = periodic poleshifts = periodic ground- and magnetic-adjustments around every 3657 years = lots of ash and ground-displacement, lots of dieoff around every 3657years.


Experiment:

Dig up a mountain, get some piece of sediment-rock from various places. Analyse them. Get some information on O16/18-dating. See if there are any typical leftovers from the conclusions above. Get some MOR-basalt and check its age and magnetic orientation. Remember elliptical orbit = periodic displacements = poleshift = huge displacements = volcanic ash etc = around every 3657 years.

If you don't find such a pattern the idea of the Hypothesis sounds disconfirmed - doesn't it?


(Joker)
Ask a geologist, or google up what was concluded so far if you trust these sources.

Here an example [link to platetectonics.pwnet.org]
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


I can not compete with your knowledge about these things. I believe that you are way ahead of me in terms of your quick mind, knowledge in a varity of other stuff.

The only thing you lack information of is unfortunately the only important thing, your soul and spirituality.
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Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox
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The earth is not halted in its orbit, the moon is not being knocked around by forces from planet X, and the earth's axis is still pointing right where it should, not wobbling around wildly to "simulate the seasons." The zetas are talking bollox. Do you get it? Do you even understand? The fundamental beliefs of your cult are false.
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Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox
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The earth is not halted in its orbit, the moon is not being knocked around by forces from planet X, and the earth's axis is still pointing right where it should, not wobbling around wildly to "simulate the seasons." The zetas are talking bollox. Do you get it? Do you even understand? The fundamental beliefs of your cult are false.
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Your comment just disqualified you completely to speak about the subject.
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Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox
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The earth is not halted in its orbit, the moon is not being knocked around by forces from planet X, and the earth's axis is still pointing right where it should, not wobbling around wildly to "simulate the seasons."
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LOL.....Are you like...sure?????...I mean like REALLY REALLY sure???...;)
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Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox
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The earth is not halted in its orbit, the moon is not being knocked around by forces from planet X, and the earth's axis is still pointing right where it should, not wobbling around wildly to "simulate the seasons." The zetas are talking bollox. Do you get it? Do you even understand? The fundamental beliefs of your cult are false.
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Your comment just disqualified you completely to speak about the subject.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


LOL! Excuse me, but the claims are false. Do you seriously believe the earth is "halted in its orbit," yes or no?

*Uh-oh, I challenged their beliefs, that's grounds for dismissal from the ning.
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Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


The earth is not halted in its orbit, the moon is not being knocked around by forces from planet X, and the earth's axis is still pointing right where it should, not wobbling around wildly to "simulate the seasons."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


LOL.....Are you like...sure?????...I mean like REALLY REALLY sure???...;)
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Where's that smilie of the guy banging his head into the wall lol
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Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox
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The earth is not halted in its orbit, the moon is not being knocked around by forces from planet X, and the earth's axis is still pointing right where it should, not wobbling around wildly to "simulate the seasons."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


LOL.....Are you like...sure?????...I mean like REALLY REALLY sure???...;)
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Where's that smilie of the guy banging his head into the wall lol
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lol...prolly around somewhere...I don't have that one..

However I DO have this one...latest data animation from JPL...there could be something to this!

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The earth is not halted in its orbit, the moon is not being knocked around by forces from planet X, and the earth's axis is still pointing right where it should, not wobbling around wildly to "simulate the seasons."
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


LOL.....Are you like...sure?????...I mean like REALLY REALLY sure???...;)
 Quoting: SHR


Where's that smilie of the guy banging his head into the wall lol
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


lol...prolly around somewhere...I don't have that one..

However I DO have this one...latest data animation from JPL...there could be something to this!

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 Quoting: SHR


LOL! I love that thing.
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Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


The earth is not halted in its orbit, the moon is not being knocked around by forces from planet X, and the earth's axis is still pointing right where it should, not wobbling around wildly to "simulate the seasons." The zetas are talking bollox. Do you get it? Do you even understand? The fundamental beliefs of your cult are false.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Your comment just disqualified you completely to speak about the subject.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


LOL! Excuse me, but the claims are false. Do you seriously believe the earth is "halted in its orbit," yes or no?

*Uh-oh, I challenged their beliefs, that's grounds for dismissal from the ning.
:badgeofhonor:
Unfortunately for the above zetatard, this isn't the ning.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Your are giving the best possible example of what I was talking about. Thank You, I really appreciate it.
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Those persons who use abusive/negative words towards people like Nancy and readers of Zetatalk and the poleshift.ning have established an emotional connection to these groups or persons.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

I agree, we should't forget that calling others "paid shills" is ad-hominem too.

Whenever an emotional connection stays unanswered the same way it was once established (due to abusive words for example) it creates even more distress in the minds of those who initialized this connection. The Barricade increases in size.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


True.
If you are able to disconnect the first step is done and you can proceed to "fight" your enemy in that you get closer to him than ever before.
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Agreed, but isn't that exactly what the debunkers are asking for?
Clear objective discussion, straight facts?

Since some (?) debunkers do not distinguish between Nancy and the zetas, disconnecting emotionally from Nancy and the Zetas would be required for the next step.
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Somehow that doesn't make sense for me or I get it the wrong way.
I mean,
If you think Nancy is in contact with the Zetas = you are connected emotionally in my mind.
Contrary:
If you think its just Nancytalk = you are emotionally disconnected. (debunkers)

btw: You brought me thinking that the fact that we do not distinguish between N and the Zs, or furthermore, not acknowledging a difference, makes it harder for the belivers to reproduce our standpoint.
But then, appearing to distinguish N from the Zs woudln't be right, if you know its all NT...

Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox (without having read ALL the Zetatalk with an opened state of mind and heart to your best knowledge!). OK so far.
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How much have you read if I may ask? Because you are assuming we haven't read in a proper way.
As you know I've been very deep into it as a Moderator.
The fact that some of the sto-lecture, which Nancy masked herself with, is based on right grounds doesn't change the fact that there's no PX and she's highly misleading people.

Now, since you are disconnected from Nancy and the Zetas you will be able to get closer to what you maybe consider as your "enemy", the Zetas.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

Nancy.


You automatically are more able to read and understand Zetatalk and its vast amount of information.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

And thats exactly the hard mistake the believers are doing.
IF you assume the information comes from (allegedly) highly intelligent aliens, it is not neutral anymore! In fact it is even superstitious and suggests a higher authority.

You then will eventually be able to read Zetatalk with an opened mind, your heart and eventually breaking up the hardened denial of what you read.
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And when you realized the above and learned to disconnect from all these assumptions, you will eventually realize Nancy has just copied these known concepts from elsewhere to bait her believers because it rings true.

- Is Nancy the first one to bring up these concepts of STO, STS, undecided, transformations, dimensions etc?

No. I can name you sources prior to Nancy.
Book of RA and Lyssa Royal as an example and I know that Nancy is very familiar with these works.

This is NOT meant to be you being suddenly a Zetatalk believer, no way. This is meant to improve your ability to let any zetatalk information flow through your mind while filtering out what is deemed to be BS for you.
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It won't make PX any more real, would it?
It won't make Nancy any more reliable, would it?

Don't see any sense in blindly believing its the truth and coming from aliens.

At any time you will have full control about the information you accept or not but you need to know about all the aspects the zetas spoke and speak about, not only about planet x and other scientific stuff. Most importantly it is the spiritual part, the part about the soul.
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Talking about Cherry-picking ZT? That is not allowed on the Ning btw.. (not even the Moderators Ning)
And, I would rather research the stuff elsewhere than reading Nancy's twisted versions.



Every time you think and speak and read about spiritual stuff in general you are automatically reconstructing your mindset and maybe establish a new or brighter pathway to your mind/spirit connection.

Whenever you fall back into old habits this pathway most likely is getting narrower.

The rest is your own journey. Zetatalk can be the spark that helps you or not. Free will was given to you by God, so to speak.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


A spark for what?
Don't get fooled by her transferred STO-lecture.

Suddenly it is completely irrelevant to you if there is a Planet X, a pole-shift an announcement by Obama or the like.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Hell no.. People are dramatically changing their lifes for such bollox.

Whatever one may believe regarding the source of the Messages from the Zetas through Nancy, the contents are so new to us and revolutionary, yet so compelling by their logic and sublime simplicity, that a serious study of them must be undertaken in order to comprehend their significance and challenge.
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Revolutionary, compelling by their logic??
But you're not talking about ZetaTalk are you? (And you still haven't answered Hydras question - regarding "compelling by their logic")

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Bit confused here...last edited by Lady Jane Smith? A mod?
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Since Poleshit-Nancy once complained about copyright infringement (when debunkers copied parts of her ZetaBabble) I thought I do her a favour and report that someone had copied complete articles from the Poleshit.ning.

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That's either ironic, or karmic.
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The earth is not halted in its orbit, the moon is not being knocked around by forces from planet X, and the earth's axis is still pointing right where it should, not wobbling around wildly to "simulate the seasons." The zetas are talking bollox. Do you get it? Do you even understand? The fundamental beliefs of your cult are false.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Your comment just disqualified you completely to speak about the subject.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


LOL! Excuse me, but the claims are false. Do you seriously believe the earth is "halted in its orbit," yes or no?

*Uh-oh, I challenged their beliefs, that's grounds for dismissal from the ning.
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Unfortunately for the above zetatard, this isn't the ning.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Your are giving the best possible example of what I was talking about. Thank You, I really appreciate it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

Do you seriously believe the earth is "halted in its orbit," yes or no?
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Your comment just disqualified you completely to speak about the subject.
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So, you're trying to teach us to "disconnect" but you say Astro gets insta-disqualified? For what??

Because you think he's a paid shill?

Then you can't disconnect.

Id say take his words as anyone elses.. and the same counts for NT.

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