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Yes - Ann S. is very funny. She' thoroughly convinced this announcement is going to happen any minute now. Pretty much to the point of being arrogant about it. But I highly suspect that she'd refuse to make a monetary wager on it...which would only indicate that she has doubt about the announcement happening. I was going to say that she'll quiet down as the months go by and no announcement is made, but this is Ann we're talking about here. Whatever excuse Nancy comes up with to explain why it hasn't happened - Ann will buy it. Maybe her and Free Store should hook up.

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Trying to get a handle on all of the distinct objects that they claim are currently in our solar system about to destroy Earth. So far, I think I've got:
- Nibiru
- Brown Dwarf
- Dark Twin

Which others are there?
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Zetababble....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Herewith, you're officially ignored due to redundant shilling and evading questions.
Come back when you got some arguments.

Trying to get a handle on all of the distinct objects that they claim are currently in our solar system about to destroy Earth. So far, I think I've got:
- Nibiru
- Brown Dwarf
- Dark Twin

Which others are there?
 Quoting: phoomp


Thats pretty much it... although Nib is the supposed brown dwarf.
It seems all of these creations have their own "physics" as kinetic, thermodynamics etc doesn't apply to any of these.

Like, pX is supposed to have 23 x the mass of earth, yet it has no influence on any nearby planets...

I figured out you have to eventually multiply every equation with zero... then you have the (non)-influence of these objects or ZetaTalk in general and then it is consistent.

0 x something = 0

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 03/21/2013 05:34 AM
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Source of the posting above: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
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Babble Babble Babble
 Quoting: ZetaBabble PoleShitter 36382091


Dear Poleshitter,

instead of copy/paste ZetaBabble - how about answering my question:


May be my question, why computerised telescopes are still working despit an earth wobble, is to difficult for the Zetas.

Let's make it easier for the Zetas:

The Great Refractor" of the Hamburg Bergedorf Observatory was erected in 1914.
It is on a fixed equatorial mount with a simple tracking motor - not adjustable, no computer.

bergrefra

It is still in use for astrometrical observations.

How is this possible, when Earth is wobbling anpredictable?


Btw.
This instrument is also available for public use at certain days.
How about convincing yourself that the instrument is working properly.

.
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Sorry, double post.

Seems GLP is under DDoS again - quite slow.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Yes - Ann S. is very funny. She' thoroughly convinced this announcement is going to happen any minute now. Pretty much to the point of being arrogant about it. But I highly suspect that she'd refuse to make a monetary wager on it...which would only indicate that she has doubt about the announcement happening. I was going to say that she'll quiet down as the months go by and no announcement is made, but this is Ann we're talking about here. Whatever excuse Nancy comes up with to explain why it hasn't happened - Ann will buy it. Maybe her and Free Store should hook up.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Yes - Ann S. is very funny. She' thoroughly convinced this announcement is going to happen any minute now. Pretty much to the point of being arrogant about it. But I highly suspect that she'd refuse to make a monetary wager on it...which would only indicate that she has doubt about the announcement happening. I was going to say that she'll quiet down as the months go by and no announcement is made, but this is Ann we're talking about here. Whatever excuse Nancy comes up with to explain why it hasn't happened - Ann will buy it. Maybe her and Free Store should hook up.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Soon ... and VERY SOON!
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Yes - Ann S. is very funny. She' thoroughly convinced this announcement is going to happen any minute now. Pretty much to the point of being arrogant about it. But I highly suspect that she'd refuse to make a monetary wager on it...which would only indicate that she has doubt about the announcement happening. I was going to say that she'll quiet down as the months go by and no announcement is made, but this is Ann we're talking about here. Whatever excuse Nancy comes up with to explain why it hasn't happened - Ann will buy it. Maybe her and Free Store should hook up.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Soon ... and VERY SOON!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36054875


i.e. never^^

And if you are so sure, you've been challanged to wager on it.. so?

Must be the type of "soon-confidency". i.e. no confidency at all

btw here's my bet: If pX gets announced until 2014 (not necessarily by Obama) by some official source, Ill tattoo "Zetas-right" on my arm. How does that sound?

Make it until 2016...if you wish.

How about, if Obama fails to make the announcement by year end you tattoo "Zeta-Shill" on your forehead?
1rof1

So, dear debunkers,
what are your bets?
banana2

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Yes - Ann S. is very funny. She' thoroughly convinced this announcement is going to happen any minute now. Pretty much to the point of being arrogant about it. But I highly suspect that she'd refuse to make a monetary wager on it...which would only indicate that she has doubt about the announcement happening. I was going to say that she'll quiet down as the months go by and no announcement is made, but this is Ann we're talking about here. Whatever excuse Nancy comes up with to explain why it hasn't happened - Ann will buy it. Maybe her and Free Store should hook up.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Soon ... and VERY SOON!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36054875


i.e. never^^

And if you are so sure, you've been challanged to wager on it.. so?

Must be the type of "soon-confidency". i.e. no confidency at all

btw here's my bet: If pX gets announced until 2014 (not necessarily by Obama) by some official source, Ill tattoo "Zetas-right" on my arm. How does that sound?

Make it until 2016...if you wish.

How about, if Obama fails to make the announcement by year end you tattoo "Zeta-Shill" on your forehead?
1rof1

So, dear debunkers,
what are your bets?
banana2
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Try to fill your mind with spiritual thoughts, that'll help you.
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Babble Babble Babble
 Quoting: PoleShitter 36382091

May be my question, why computerised telescopes are still working despit an earth wobble, is to difficult for the Zetas.

Let's make it easier for the Zetas:

The Great Refractor" of the Hamburg Bergedorf Observatory was erected in 1914.
It is on a fixed equatorial mount with a simple tracking motor - not adjustable, no computer.

bergrefra

It is still in use for astrometrical observations.

How is this possible, when Earth is wobbling anpredictable?
 Quoting: Hydra

Still now answer.

Because your puppet master has none.

Ask her - or are you afraid of the consequences?

.
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
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ZetaTalk: The Insecure
written Dec 5, 2004

Debunkers, under the guise of presenting truth seem to really fear Nancy, given all the time and energy they spend on her and her ideas be they flawed or nay. Is it the message, or her perceived insanity they fear? A logical person knows if a person is a crackpot and posting on the internet, you ignore them and they go away. When you fight, piss and moan, all you do is give them more credence in the eyes of those who believe and in the eyes of many on the fence.

Beyond the professional debunker, whose full or part time job is to haunt message boards or web sites in search of people discussing what the establishment wants to deny at present, there are those so in the grip of fear and insecurity that they attack the message for no other reason. The message is, in short, unthinkable. Life, for humans on Earth, is highly insecure in the best of times. Even with the best that modern medicine can provide, most illness is not curable and palliative measure only provided. Lightning can strike anytime, any place, and neither prayers or bribes make a difference. Meteors and fireballs from the sky are erratic, and despite man’s best efforts at prediction earthquakes strike without warning, dropping buildings and bridges. Then there are all the reassurances from employers and governments and insurers that pension funds, savings, home ownership and assets, all are solidly there and will be replaced should any event remove them. Yet employers go bankrupt, governments go bankrupt and change their rules or default on their promises, and insurance companies default. Loyalty from friends and family also cannot be relied upon solidly, as the divorce rate and domestic violence statistics show. Friends are supportive only while this friendship aligns with their life circumstances, and the friendship dropped when it becomes inconvenient. Thus, despite man’s best efforts to make himself secure, he is, in essence, standing naked in the cold rain, alone.

Enter Planet X and the ZetaTalk message that the world will turn upside down, experience earthquakes that will shatter cities everywhere, roll flood tides inland for hundreds of miles along coastlines everywhere, explode industrial complexes into a cesspool of chemical pollution, destroy the communication and transportation networks so that travel is on foot or impossible, remove the convenience of electricity and clean water supplied to the home and replace this with long dark nights and drinking water smelling like the neighbors sewage, suddenly stop the delivery of food stuffs to the local store with no replacement so that rats and weeds and rotting corpses become the only food available. For many, especially those in cities or whose lifestyle by choice or necessity has made them soft and dependent, this is what the message means. Unthinkable. There are no options that come readily to mind, for these individuals.

... more at link
Source: [link to www.zetatalk.com]

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Babble Babble Babble
 Quoting: PoleShitter 36382091

May be my question, why computerised telescopes are still working despit an earth wobble, is to difficult for the Zetas.

Let's make it easier for the Zetas:

The Great Refractor" of the Hamburg Bergedorf Observatory was erected in 1914.
It is on a fixed equatorial mount with a simple tracking motor - not adjustable, no computer.

bergrefra

It is still in use for astrometrical observations.

How is this possible, when Earth is wobbling anpredictable?
 Quoting: Hydra

Still now answer.

Because your puppet master has none.

Ask her - or are you afraid of the consequences?

.
 Quoting: Hydra

Still no answer.
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Bit confused here...last edited by Lady Jane Smith? A mod?
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Fair enough by this mod. My overlenght posting before has been removed but I coinsider this as fair, it was too long.
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Bit confused here...last edited by Lady Jane Smith? A mod?
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Fair enough by this mod. My overlenght posting before has been removed but I coinsider this as fair, it was too long.
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Quick thinking but doesn't wash.
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Try to fill your mind with spiritual thoughts, that'll help you.
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You mean like those thoughts:
"Hm.. why bother to change the present when PX is going to wipe out everything...?"

or

"If those concepts about morale ring true does it mean the rest of ZT true aswell?"

Oh right... that hasn't much to do with spirituality.

I prefer to rather DO than just THINK...
Today it ment sharing my meal with a homeless guy - believe it or not.


Also,
Babble Babble Babble
 Quoting: PoleShitter 36382091

May be my question, why computerised telescopes are still working despit an earth wobble, is to difficult for the Zetas.

Let's make it easier for the Zetas:

The Great Refractor" of the Hamburg Bergedorf Observatory was erected in 1914.
It is on a fixed equatorial mount with a simple tracking motor - not adjustable, no computer.

bergrefra

It is still in use for astrometrical observations.

How is this possible, when Earth is wobbling anpredictable?
 Quoting: Hydra

Still now answer.

Because your puppet master has none.

Ask her - or are you afraid of the consequences?

.
 Quoting: Hydra

Still no answer.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Still no answer!

tounge
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Bit confused here...last edited by Lady Jane Smith? A mod?
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Fair enough by this mod. My overlenght posting before has been removed but I coinsider this as fair, it was too long.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Quick thinking but doesn't wash.
 Quoting: Elemental


What doe it doesn't wash mean?
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Nancy sure has been busy this week. First she sent in Free Store, then AC 2411656 (aka Ann S), followed by AC 36382091. I wish she would bring Luser back. He was funny.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I'm not too sure they are all Zetadrones.

Marshall Masters is currently emulating Ninny in having his minions investigate lens flares at some volcano in Costa Rica.
He's got to do something since he's having an hard time selling his DVDs and books about 'Surviving 2012 and the Pole Shift' in 2013.
Planet X Forecast for April 2007 to July 2014 FREE VERSION (.pdf):
[link to www.nibiru2012.it]
Some howlers from 2007 by the male Nancy Lieder:

"May 15, 2009 - Distance from Sun 11AU
Viewing requires high powered binoculars or small telescope
-Faint Reddish Object"

"May 15, 2011 - Distance from Sun 6.4AU
...becomes bright enough for naked-eye observation in the Southern hemisphere.
-Easily Noticable
-Dimly Visible During the Day
-Bright Reddish Object at Night"
Ha. 2011 it's visible "during the day". That would make it about mag -4. How'd that work out for you Mancy Liesters?
Masters even copies Ninnies obsession with May 15th.

"December 21, 2012 - Distance from Sun 3.0AU
... trigers strong electrical interaction with Sun.
Object will appear as a second Sun.
It will be bright red and ~ the size of the moon."
You guys all remember that immensely bright object in the sky don't you?
It was as big as the moon; which Marshall and Jacko, renown phizzycysts they be, apparently don't realize is also the size of the sun.
Gee Marshall, thanks for the warning and the DVDs and books on how to survive the passage of PX in 2012.
We couldn't have made it through without you. Now what've you got to sell?
Snicker.

And his hilarious webpage that hasn't been scrubbed yet, but I predict... :
[link to yowusa.com]
and the 2nd page:
[link to yowusa.com]
"Observing Planet X / Nibiru
Yowusa.com, 24-Mar-2009
Jacco van der Worp, MSc
Marshall Masters"

The 2nd page is where the hilarity ensues:
Here we find out how Marshall and Wacko-Jacko came up with their "forecast":
"It is also important to note that while the unproven Planet X observation theory of Dr. Harrington is a key element in our research, it is but one of many. Other data we used in the formulation of our forecast include:
- Orbit perturbations of the outer planets
- Temperatures of the cold outer bodies rising beyond seasonal effects
- Electrical phenomena around planets and comets
- Observations of the Sun unleashing plasma towards a single direction
- Recent Southward deformation of the Earth's magnetic field
This is only a partial list of the data. There is much more, ..."

I'd like to see those 'calculations'. I'm sure they involved ritual blood-letting and channelling Nostradamus.

More:
"By late 2011, everyone on the Earth will be able to stand out in their back yard and view it in the night sky with a pair of binoculars. By 2012, it will look like a second sun in the sky — everywhere"
I'd call that a Nancy Lieder sized fail.

The reason I point this out is that Masters has a financial interest in sending his shills out to drum up business so some of the PXers you encounter will honestly tell you they don't follow Ninny... they just don't tell you they are following her male clone - Marshall Masters.

Have fun.


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Bit confused here...last edited by Lady Jane Smith? A mod?
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Fair enough by this mod. My overlenght posting before has been removed but I coinsider this as fair, it was too long.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Quick thinking but doesn't wash.
 Quoting: Elemental


What doe it doesn't wash mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


That the excuse doesn't work.
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Nancy sure has been busy this week. First she sent in Free Store, then AC 2411656 (aka Ann S), followed by AC 36382091. I wish she would bring Luser back. He was funny.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I'm not too sure they are all Zetadrones.

Marshall Masters is currently emulating Ninny in having his minions investigate lens flares at some volcano in Costa Rica.
He's got to do something since he's having an hard time selling his DVDs and books about 'Surviving 2012 and the Pole Shift' in 2013.

The reason I point this out is that Masters has a financial interest in sending his shills out to drum up business so some of the PXers you encounter will honestly tell you they don't follow Ninny... they just don't tell you they are following her male clone - Marshall Masters.

Have fun.


R
 Quoting: R 9938203


Thanks for the notice!
I can imagine how hard it must be selling "how to survive 2012 and the poleshift" hehe...

Nancy almost made the same mistake but it seems they're learning from each other..
"People hate the truth, luckily the truth doesn't care."
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Try to fill your mind with spiritual thoughts, that'll help you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


You mean like those thoughts:
"Hm.. why bother to change the present when PX is going to wipe out everything...?"

or

"If those concepts about morale ring true does it mean the rest of ZT true aswell?"

Oh right... that hasn't much to do with spirituality.

I prefer to rather DO than just THINK...
Today it ment sharing my meal with a homeless guy - believe it or not.



Still no answer.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Wait a second:
Herewith, you're officially ignored due to redundant shilling and evading questions.
Come back when you got some arguments.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision
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Try to fill your mind with spiritual thoughts, that'll help you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


You mean like those thoughts:
"Hm.. why bother to change the present when PX is going to wipe out everything...?"

or

"If those concepts about morale ring true does it mean the rest of ZT true aswell?"

Oh right... that hasn't much to do with spirituality.

I prefer to rather DO than just THINK...
Today it ment sharing my meal with a homeless guy - believe it or not.



Still no answer.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Wait a second:
Herewith, you're officially ignored due to redundant shilling and evading questions.
Come back when you got some arguments.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Suspected that would be following. tounge
As long as you don't just copy n paste zetababble all is fine...

After all we want to hear from YOU, how you justify those errorenous ZT to yourself...

If we want to read ZetaBS we very well know where to find it.

Also,
I still haven't answered Hydras question and don't want to because I do not have a plausible answer...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward (edited) 36382091


Noted.. hf

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Bit confused here...last edited by Lady Jane Smith? A mod?
 Quoting: Elemental

Since Poleshit-Nancy once complained about copyright infringement (when debunkers copied parts of her ZetaBabble) I thought I do her a favour and report that someone had copied complete articles from the Poleshit.ning.

cool2

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Nancy sure has been busy this week. First she sent in Free Store, then AC 2411656 (aka Ann S), followed by AC 36382091. I wish she would bring Luser back. He was funny.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


I'm not too sure they are all Zetadrones.

Marshall Masters is currently emulating Ninny in having his minions investigate lens flares at some volcano in Costa Rica.
He's got to do something since he's having an hard time selling his DVDs and books about 'Surviving 2012 and the Pole Shift' in 2013.
Planet X Forecast for April 2007 to July 2014 FREE VERSION (.pdf):
[link to www.nibiru2012.it]
Some howlers from 2007 by the male Nancy Lieder:

"May 15, 2009 - Distance from Sun 11AU
Viewing requires high powered binoculars or small telescope
-Faint Reddish Object"

"May 15, 2011 - Distance from Sun 6.4AU
...becomes bright enough for naked-eye observation in the Southern hemisphere.
-Easily Noticable
-Dimly Visible During the Day
-Bright Reddish Object at Night"
Ha. 2011 it's visible "during the day". That would make it about mag -4. How'd that work out for you Mancy Liesters?
Masters even copies Ninnies obsession with May 15th.

"December 21, 2012 - Distance from Sun 3.0AU
... trigers strong electrical interaction with Sun.
Object will appear as a second Sun.
It will be bright red and ~ the size of the moon."
You guys all remember that immensely bright object in the sky don't you?
It was as big as the moon; which Marshall and Jacko, renown phizzycysts they be, apparently don't realize is also the size of the sun.
Gee Marshall, thanks for the warning and the DVDs and books on how to survive the passage of PX in 2012.
We couldn't have made it through without you. Now what've you got to sell?
Snicker.

And his hilarious webpage that hasn't been scrubbed yet, but I predict... :
[link to yowusa.com]
and the 2nd page:
[link to yowusa.com]
"Observing Planet X / Nibiru
Yowusa.com, 24-Mar-2009
Jacco van der Worp, MSc
Marshall Masters"

The 2nd page is where the hilarity ensues:
Here we find out how Marshall and Wacko-Jacko came up with their "forecast":
"It is also important to note that while the unproven Planet X observation theory of Dr. Harrington is a key element in our research, it is but one of many. Other data we used in the formulation of our forecast include:
- Orbit perturbations of the outer planets
- Temperatures of the cold outer bodies rising beyond seasonal effects
- Electrical phenomena around planets and comets
- Observations of the Sun unleashing plasma towards a single direction
- Recent Southward deformation of the Earth's magnetic field
This is only a partial list of the data. There is much more, ..."

I'd like to see those 'calculations'. I'm sure they involved ritual blood-letting and channelling Nostradamus.

More:
"By late 2011, everyone on the Earth will be able to stand out in their back yard and view it in the night sky with a pair of binoculars. By 2012, it will look like a second sun in the sky — everywhere"
I'd call that a Nancy Lieder sized fail.

The reason I point this out is that Masters has a financial interest in sending his shills out to drum up business so some of the PXers you encounter will honestly tell you they don't follow Ninny... they just don't tell you they are following her male clone - Marshall Masters.

Have fun.


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Good finds. This whole thing has gotten so complicated and has so many side-players that it has become near impossible to keep track of it/them all.
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I still haven't answered Hydras question and don't want to because I do not have a plausible answer...
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Noted.. hf
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Did you noticed that too, is what bugs me?
As if you have an answer, or at least an idea, I would look forward hear it.

In this case I would even accept "Nope" as an answer!

That you read these words is apparent, so ignoring is considered you don't have a plausible answer.

Scientists have an answer. There is no Planet X and all planets move exactly as predicted(calculated) years ago.

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"People hate the truth, luckily the truth doesn't care."
Author of "Zeta Talk exposed": [link to novnet.org]
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AC 36382091, Are you in the mood for some action?

How about a hypothesis and some experiments:

Hypothesis:
Intruder: pX, 3657 years, elliptical orbit = periodic poleshifts = periodic ground- and magnetic-adjustments around every 3657 years = lots of ash and ground-displacement, lots of dieoff around every 3657years.


Experiment:

Dig up a mountain, get some piece of sediment-rock from various places. Analyse them. Get some information on O16/18-dating. See if there are any typical leftovers from the conclusions above. Get some MOR-basalt and check its age and magnetic orientation. Remember elliptical orbit = periodic displacements = poleshift = huge displacements = volcanic ash etc = around every 3657 years.

If you don't find such a pattern the idea of the Hypothesis sounds disconfirmed - doesn't it?


(Joker)
Ask a geologist, or google up what was concluded so far if you trust these sources.

Here an example [link to platetectonics.pwnet.org]

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[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Comment by ann s. 2 hours ago
Noticed the paid shills at GLP can never, ever concede ZetaTalk is correct about anything. So they are pretending ZetaTalk fans are not still banned from posting at GLP. I am still banned, today.

(snip)

look, Ann... many of us have been banned in the past and there are clearly a couple of Zetatalk supporters posting on this thread in the last couple of days. This means what you are saying is obviously false. Get a grip.
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What a joke. I used to get banned almost every week when Nancy was a mod here. Sometimes even the good Dr. Postman could do nothing about it and I had to just ride it out. Sometimes I get caught in IP bans, I think we all do from time to time. It used to be that posting the dog video got you auto banned. The only Nancy fans I know of to be banned are Max and his alter ego volar, and it wasn't for defending Nancy, it was for being an ass about threats made to a member of the forum. Freestore has been banned several times, not because he defends Nancy, but because he tends to have meltdowns. I remember when one of Nancy's sock puppets got Nancy banned, and then Nancy had to go to the library to beg for the ban to be lifted. Of course the story was that elle was her neighbour using her computer. If all of the ningsters are banned here, then how do they know what we talk about?

Nancy did a really stupid thing when she left for the ning and started bad mouthing this forum and the owner. She could have stayed and with a paid membership she could have deleted comments to her hearts content. I guess she couldn't co exist on a forum that allowed other people to post threads in counter point to her BS. Nancy hates this thread because it proved to be more popular than any of hers after the debunkers started boycotting her threads. Just look at this thread. More than 1100 pages, after two prunings of posts, and still not one zetatard has posted any proof to back up any of her claims. I guess all they have is the paid debunker argument.
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ZetaTalk about NASA’s history of discovery on rogue planets

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

BS

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Two links in that one, they are upping their game.
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Bit confused here...last edited by Lady Jane Smith? A mod?
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Well, well, well, nothing more needed to say there.
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Yes - Ann S. is very funny. She' thoroughly convinced this announcement is going to happen any minute now. Pretty much to the point of being arrogant about it. But I highly suspect that she'd refuse to make a monetary wager on it...which would only indicate that she has doubt about the announcement happening. I was going to say that she'll quiet down as the months go by and no announcement is made, but this is Ann we're talking about here. Whatever excuse Nancy comes up with to explain why it hasn't happened - Ann will buy it. Maybe her and Free Store should hook up.
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