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Freestore and logical is an oxymoron, do you know what logical means Freestore?
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So the many, many errors in claims and predictions about the physical world are all due to this "unsharpness" and Zetas aren't really saying all those false things? On the other hand, you apparently believe that any 'spiritual' instructions or information has passed through Nancy without significant error? That's quite a dichotomy you have going there.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


No. I did not say that, or at least not intentionally. What I am saying is that their is unsharpness in everything in what you call the physical world in what the zetas say about spirituality about science about everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


No, there is no "unsharpness" as to whether Earth is halted in orbit or not. I already posed questions to you about whether you are talking about some sort of alternate reality where the Zeta claims are true. Funny- you didn't answer.

The Zetas absolutely don't know everything, this privilege is only reserved for God.

If you would only have read and understand zetatalk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Really? You are quite the arrogant ass with your obtuse dismissal of other's comments in favor of your alleged "TRVTH" found in your precious Zetatalk. We are not talking about KNOWING EVERYTHING, you pompous jerk. We are talking about claims of fact in the physical world. One more time.... YOU came on here touting Zeta "accuracy" in that very world YOU are apparently now saying is never solidly definable.
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


There is accuracy in what the Zetas relay and it can be found here: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
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"Accuracy *IN*..."??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate? Maybe you shouldn't be trying to discuss things in English- you sure don't seem rational.
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Would you care to link us to reputable proof from outside of the Zeta site AC2091?
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So the many, many errors in claims and predictions about the physical world are all due to this "unsharpness" and Zetas aren't really saying all those false things? On the other hand, you apparently believe that any 'spiritual' instructions or information has passed through Nancy without significant error? That's quite a dichotomy you have going there.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


No. I did not say that, or at least not intentionally. What I am saying is that their is unsharpness in everything in what you call the physical world in what the zetas say about spirituality about science about everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


No, there is no "unsharpness" as to whether Earth is halted in orbit or not. I already posed questions to you about whether you are talking about some sort of alternate reality where the Zeta claims are true. Funny- you didn't answer.

The Zetas absolutely don't know everything, this privilege is only reserved for God.

If you would only have read and understand zetatalk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Really? You are quite the arrogant ass with your obtuse dismissal of other's comments in favor of your alleged "TRVTH" found in your precious Zetatalk. We are not talking about KNOWING EVERYTHING, you pompous jerk. We are talking about claims of fact in the physical world. One more time.... YOU came on here touting Zeta "accuracy" in that very world YOU are apparently now saying is never solidly definable.
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


Is this what you mean, Meno?

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And you're the one clearly sore as can be about it. I'm still waiting for you to actually address my post.
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I'm not sure what u want me to say?

I'm not an astronomer, I'm just a kiwi block who enjoys learning about alternative subjects.

"For several years, astronomers have observed that a handful of the small icy bodies that lie in the so-called "scattered disc" beyond the orbit of the planet Neptune, including the dwarf planet Sedna, deviate from the paths around the sun that would be expected based on the gravitational pulls of all the known objects in the solar system.
Sedna, for example, swings around the sun in an extremely elongated orbit tracing out a very long oval. "Sedna's orbit is truly peculiar," said Mike Brown, an astronomer at Caltech who led the team that discovered Sedna in 2003."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36477253


About Sedna:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


I posted the links above because they all deal with "Sedna" to support what the other person said about it. To make it distinguishable between general Zetatalk and their accuracy track record I took the title of the last link: Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Yes, that is what I mean. The constant braying of "Zetas right again" has been tossed in the faces of people who point out the errors in the Zeta claims for over a decade now. There IS no "accuracy" in the Zeta claims about anything astronomical or geological or really anything to do with the physical world I can observe. That list is a collection of misrepresented news stories, twisted facts and outright lies.
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Freestore and logical is an oxymoron, do you know what logical means Freestore?
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No, please explain that to me...
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Hey, FS. Long time no see.

So, since 2007 and 2012 didn't pan out -- how long are you willing to give Nancy *this* time? End of 2013? Beyond?

Or are you unwilling to give any expiration date on Nancy's claims at all, because the milk has just gone too far off?

You'll be believing her through 2030? 2040? To infinity and beyond?
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I'll give it as long as it'll take. It's like predicting a nuke war...the bombs exist but nobody knows when they will be used..logical.
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Except that Planet X, as Nancy describes it, DOES NOT exist.
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No. I did not say that, or at least not intentionally. What I am saying is that their is unsharpness in everything in what you call the physical world in what the zetas say about spirituality about science about everything.
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No, there is no "unsharpness" as to whether Earth is halted in orbit or not. I already posed questions to you about whether you are talking about some sort of alternate reality where the Zeta claims are true. Funny- you didn't answer.

The Zetas absolutely don't know everything, this privilege is only reserved for God.

If you would only have read and understand zetatalk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Really? You are quite the arrogant ass with your obtuse dismissal of other's comments in favor of your alleged "TRVTH" found in your precious Zetatalk. We are not talking about KNOWING EVERYTHING, you pompous jerk. We are talking about claims of fact in the physical world. One more time.... YOU came on here touting Zeta "accuracy" in that very world YOU are apparently now saying is never solidly definable.
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


There is accuracy in what the Zetas relay and it can be found here: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


"Accuracy *IN*..."??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate? Maybe you shouldn't be trying to discuss things in English- you sure don't seem rational.
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I understand my english writing skills are not as good as they should be. I will try to do better next time.
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The Zetas absolutely don't know everything,
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It has yet to be demonstrated that "Zetas" know ANYTHING!
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Freestore and logical is an oxymoron, do you know what logical means Freestore?
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No, please explain that to me...
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It means get your head out of Zetatalk, step out of the party room and look up to the sky.
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No, there is no "unsharpness" as to whether Earth is halted in orbit or not. I already posed questions to you about whether you are talking about some sort of alternate reality where the Zeta claims are true. Funny- you didn't answer.

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Really? You are quite the arrogant ass with your obtuse dismissal of other's comments in favor of your alleged "TRVTH" found in your precious Zetatalk. We are not talking about KNOWING EVERYTHING, you pompous jerk. We are talking about claims of fact in the physical world. One more time.... YOU came on here touting Zeta "accuracy" in that very world YOU are apparently now saying is never solidly definable.
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


There is accuracy in what the Zetas relay and it can be found here: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
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"Accuracy *IN*..."??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate? Maybe you shouldn't be trying to discuss things in English- you sure don't seem rational.
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I understand my english writing skills are not as good as they should be. I will try to do better next time.
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Why don't you try answering the question I asked you THIS time? See bolded.
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Would you care to link us to reputable proof from outside of the Zeta site AC2091?
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Proof of what?
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The Zetas absolutely don't know everything,
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It has yet to be demonstrated that "Zetas" know ANYTHING!
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Freestore and logical is an oxymoron, do you know what logical means Freestore?
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No, please explain that to me...
 Quoting: Free Store 25700344


It means get your head out of Zetatalk, step out of the party room and look up to the sky.
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I definity do at night...In the day it's too bright looking anywhere due to the monster bright white sun.
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The whole Zetabullshit is a big bunch of lies. All their predictions failed and Nancy is only spreading nonsense. Or does anyone still remember the 7 of 10 which should be over in some weeks? What about the poleshift will come in 2003? Why did these morons eat their pets? What about the shock of the world in 2010? What about 2012 is too far out?

These cult only abuses terms like spirituality for their more or less criminal intentions. They want to brainwash people and get new innocent victims who believe in Nancy`s bull.

Besides that Nancy`s claims are more than ridiculous. Every child can see that the earth didn`t stop in its orbit. Why can nobody see this cult planet? Why do all astronomic events always happen as predicted? What about solar eclipses?

This pseudoesoteric religious babble is only another attempt to distract from all their permanent epic fails. I`m not sure what this Ningtard wants here but he is apparently only here for spamming around with old Zetababble (Nancybabble).
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There is accuracy in what the Zetas relay and it can be found here: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
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"Accuracy *IN*..."??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate? Maybe you shouldn't be trying to discuss things in English- you sure don't seem rational.
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


I understand my english writing skills are not as good as they should be. I will try to do better next time.
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Why don't you try answering the question I asked you THIS time? See bolded.
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[...]??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate?[...]
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


Yes, I do. There are predictions made by the Zetas and there are the refering articles to these predictions for example. It is all there, you just need to read it.
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Yes, I do. There are predictions made by the Zetas and there are the refering articles to these predictions for example. It is all there, you just need to read it.
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So, basically, "read everything and find the accurate bits yourself"? Or, "I believe it's ALL accurate, and don't feel like trying to defend it".
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Look, Djakarta webcam: [link to nl.webcams.travel]

Zetas wrong again.

Are you physically incapable of answering simple yes/no questions.
Why are newagers always so bloody vague?

It has been established that NOT A SINGLE prediction from the alleged superaliens that referred to the real world and wasn't so vague to be meaningless has come true.

And your excuse is we don't UNDERSTAND?
While it's rather obviously these alleged superaliens who don't understand anything of reality?

What is your excuse for believing such utter unadulterated bullshit?
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"Accuracy *IN*..."??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate? Maybe you shouldn't be trying to discuss things in English- you sure don't seem rational.
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I understand my english writing skills are not as good as they should be. I will try to do better next time.
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Why don't you try answering the question I asked you THIS time? See bolded.
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


[...]??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate?[...]
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


Yes, I do. There are predictions made by the Zetas and there are the refering articles to these predictions for example. It is all there, you just need to read it.
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Apparently you don't understand that Nancy is a QUEEN of misrepresentation of facts and cherry-picks articles which she spins to SEEM like the support her claims when they actually don't.

You also don't seem to understand that many of us HAVE read the Zetatalk claims as they were first presented and seen right through them each time, and SHOWED why those claims were false. Nancy just ignores that and continued to pile them up, one upon another, until she has amassed this astounding collection of steaming BS we see today.

Nancy and "Zetas" create such voluminous diatribes that no one cares to wade through them. Her believers just take the attitude that even though they don't understand what is being said, that it must be right. Debunkers grow tired of picking Nancy's proclamations apart because it just falls on deaf ears anyway. In the end, that just means that Nancy's latest "Zetatalk" just gets added to the pile and declared to be correct regardless of any outside input or discussion of the facts. After all, on the ning it is not even ALLOWED to discuss whether any Zetatalk is flawed in any way.

If you care to pick out items in that accuracy list you care to defend, logically, go right ahead. On the other hand, you have already admitted that you don't know and don't care whether claims of accuracy are valid or not.
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I understand my english writing skills are not as good as they should be. I will try to do better next time.
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Why don't you try answering the question I asked you THIS time? See bolded.
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[...]??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate?[...]
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


Yes, I do. There are predictions made by the Zetas and there are the refering articles to these predictions for example. It is all there, you just need to read it.
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Apparently you don't understand that Nancy is a QUEEN of misrepresentation of facts and cherry-picks articles which she spins to SEEM like the support her claims when they actually don't.

You also don't seem to understand that many of us HAVE read the Zetatalk claims as they were first presented and seen right through them each time, and SHOWED why those claims were false. Nancy just ignores that and continued to pile them up, one upon another, until she has amassed this astounding collection of steaming BS we see today.

Nancy and "Zetas" create such voluminous diatribes that no one cares to wade through them. Her believers just take the attitude that even though they don't understand what is being said, that it must be right. Debunkers grow tired of picking Nancy's proclamations apart because it just falls on deaf ears anyway. In the end, that just means that Nancy's latest "Zetatalk" just gets added to the pile and declared to be correct regardless of any outside input or discussion of the facts. After all, on the ning it is not even ALLOWED to discuss whether any Zetatalk is flawed in any way.

If you care to pick out items in that accuracy list you care to defend, logically, go right ahead. On the other hand, you have already admitted that you don't know and don't care whether claims of accuracy are valid or not.
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In any case, the goal isn't to convince the believers; in any cult, the believers will almost always be a lost cause. The goal is to help others from getting sucked in. In many cases, its enough to make people aware that the Nibiru and Pole Shift ideas they've been hearing come from someone who thinks she's in psychic communication with aliens.
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Because ann s said so?
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No, because EVERY Zeta supporter and Nancy, herself, CONSTANTLY calls anyone speaking against Zetatalk claims a "paid shill".
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Well, I don't see every Zeta supporter on this thread or on the poleshift.ning constantly saying that, so I can't tell. Nancy and ann s surely claim it but why would you care?
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How obtuse ARE you? For one, it IS a constant with that bunch. Second- Didn't YOU just say something about how attacks and name-calling were undesirable?
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How obtuse ARE you? For one, it IS a constant with that bunch. Second- Didn't YOU just say something about how attacks and name-calling were undesirable?
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Yes, it is undesirable that ann s and Nancy claim that, but I don't see that every Zeta supporter on this thread or on the poleshift.ning constantly does this, too.
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No, because EVERY Zeta supporter and Nancy, herself, CONSTANTLY calls anyone speaking against Zetatalk claims a "paid shill".
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Well, I don't see every Zeta supporter on this thread or on the poleshift.ning constantly saying that, so I can't tell. Nancy and ann s surely claim it but why would you care?
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How obtuse ARE you? For one, it IS a constant with that bunch. Second- Didn't YOU just say something about how attacks and name-calling were undesirable?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


How obtuse ARE you? For one, it IS a constant with that bunch. Second- Didn't YOU just say something about how attacks and name-calling were undesirable?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Yes, it is undesirable that ann s and Nancy claim that, but I don't see that every Zeta supporter on this thread or on the poleshift.ning constantly does this, too.
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You're playing word games and semantics. The idea of "paid shills" is the ONE thing which never ceases in any Zeta believer's world-view. That there is an organized effort to suppress the Zeta "truth". Without that aspect of the story Nancy's cult would fall right apart because the believers would not have the same amount of resistance to outside information showing where Zetatalk claims are wrong.
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Soon ... and VERY SOON!
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Thank you for putting our minds at ease...because we all know that when it comes to "Planet X" soon is a measurement of time equal to never.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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I'll give it as long as it'll take. It's like predicting a nuke war...the bombs exist but nobody knows when they will be used..logical.
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Translation: It doesn't matter how many times it fails to show up, he'll continue to believe it's coming simply because Nancy said so.

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 03/21/2013 05:49 PM
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You mean like those thoughts:
"Hm.. why bother to change the present when PX is going to wipe out everything...?"

or

"If those concepts about morale ring true does it mean the rest of ZT true aswell?"

Oh right... that hasn't much to do with spirituality.

I prefer to rather DO than just THINK...
Today it ment sharing my meal with a homeless guy - believe it or not.



Still no answer.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Wait a second:
Herewith, you're officially ignored due to redundant shilling and evading questions.
Come back when you got some arguments.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Suspected that would be following. tounge
As long as you don't just copy n paste zetababble all is fine...

After all we want to hear from YOU, how you justify those errorenous ZT to yourself...

If we want to read ZetaBS we very well know where to find it.

Also,
I still haven't answered Hydras question and don't want to because I do not have a plausible answer...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Noted.. hf
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Those persons who use abusive/negative words towards people like Nancy and readers of Zetatalk and the poleshift.ning have established an emotional connection to these groups or persons.

Whenever an emotional connection stays unanswered the same way it was once established (due to abusive words for example) it creates even more distress in the minds of those who initialized this connection. The Barricade increases in size.

If you are able to disconnect the first step is done and you can proceed to "fight" your enemy in that you get closer to him than ever before.

Since some (?) debunkers do not distinguish between Nancy and the zetas, disconnecting emotionally from Nancy and the Zetas would be required for the next step.

Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox (without having read ALL the Zetatalk with an opened state of mind and heart to your best knowledge!). OK so far.

Now, since you are disconnected from Nancy and the Zetas you will be able to get closer to what you maybe consider as your "enemy", the Zetas. You automatically are more able to read and understand Zetatalk and its vast amount of information. You then will eventually be able to read Zetatalk with an opened mind, your heart and eventually breaking up the hardened denial of what you read. This is NOT meant to be you being suddenly a Zetatalk believer, no way. This is meant to improve your ability to let any zetatalk information flow through your mind while filtering out what is deemed to be BS for you.

At any time you will have full control about the information you accept or not but you need to know about all the aspects the zetas spoke and speak about, not only about planet x and other scientific stuff. Most importantly it is the spiritual part, the part about the soul.

Every time you think and speak and read about spiritual stuff in general you are automatically reconstructing your mindset and maybe establish a new or brighter pathway to your mind/spirit connection.

Whenever you fall back into old habits this pathway most likely is getting narrower.

The rest is your own journey. Zetatalk can be the spark that helps you or not. Free will was given to you by God, so to speak.

Suddenly it is completely irrelevant to you if there is a Planet X, a pole-shift an announcement by Obama or the like.

Whatever one may believe regarding the source of the Messages from the Zetas through Nancy, the contents are so new to us and revolutionary, yet so compelling by their logic and sublime simplicity, that a serious study of them must be undertaken in order to comprehend their significance and challenge.
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All I heard was lalalalalalalalalala
Apparently it's easier to whine about debunkers than it is to substantiate any of Nancytalk with credible sources and intelligent debate. Just as we have come to expect with Nancy and her chicken little cult. Almost 1200 pages and not one person has been willing or able to try.
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All right. I am trying to answer it and hope that I find the right words. My answer is that I don't know it, honestly I have absolutely no idea if that really happened or not and I am completely unable to speak with you about the subject because when I've read about it some time ago I filtered it out, so to say. I took it into consideration, found that it would take to much time to understand and dropped it so it wouldn't distract me from what I'm really trying to gain.

This does NOT mean I am running away from it, I just filtered it out to be of any importance to me after having read about it, true or not true - I cannot evaluate. I don't care, hence I don't follow this "Moon was halted in its orbit or not" thing because there is no spiritual outcome for me.

As an example: I also filter out what is said to be Nancy Talk. It is my understanding that she as a human is erroneous in some things and in others not.

Also I filter out what Ann s. says sometimes, because I consider it as unnecessary to call a person she does not know personally to be a payed shill. She simply answeres the emotional call on her with a negative emotion -
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How can you filter out such basic knowledge of our own planet and the solar system when the entire premise of zetatalk is based on the supposed existence of planet x in our solar system? Look dude, it's not rocket science. My grandchildren learned enough in grade 5 to see how ridiculous Nancy's ideas are! If Nancy doesn't know even this much about astronomy and our solar system, why would you waste time on any of the bullshit found at Nancy's place.
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Hey, FS. Long time no see.

So, since 2007 and 2012 didn't pan out -- how long are you willing to give Nancy *this* time? End of 2013? Beyond?

Or are you unwilling to give any expiration date on Nancy's claims at all, because the milk has just gone too far off?

You'll be believing her through 2030? 2040? To infinity and beyond?
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I'll give it as long as it'll take. It's like predicting a nuke war...the bombs exist but nobody knows when they will be used..logical.
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Nothing logical about it. If you were logical or rational about the issue, there'd be some logical or rational means by which you could change your mind.

You will believe Nancy's prognostications til the end of your life, and, by your own choice, nothing can ever change your mind. Moreover, you're *proud* of that.

Sad.
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Wait a second:
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Suspected that would be following. tounge
As long as you don't just copy n paste zetababble all is fine...

After all we want to hear from YOU, how you justify those errorenous ZT to yourself...

If we want to read ZetaBS we very well know where to find it.

Also,
I still haven't answered Hydras question and don't want to because I do not have a plausible answer...
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Noted.. hf
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Those persons who use abusive/negative words towards people like Nancy and readers of Zetatalk and the poleshift.ning have established an emotional connection to these groups or persons.

Whenever an emotional connection stays unanswered the same way it was once established (due to abusive words for example) it creates even more distress in the minds of those who initialized this connection. The Barricade increases in size.

If you are able to disconnect the first step is done and you can proceed to "fight" your enemy in that you get closer to him than ever before.

Since some (?) debunkers do not distinguish between Nancy and the zetas, disconnecting emotionally from Nancy and the Zetas would be required for the next step.

Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox (without having read ALL the Zetatalk with an opened state of mind and heart to your best knowledge!). OK so far.

Now, since you are disconnected from Nancy and the Zetas you will be able to get closer to what you maybe consider as your "enemy", the Zetas. You automatically are more able to read and understand Zetatalk and its vast amount of information. You then will eventually be able to read Zetatalk with an opened mind, your heart and eventually breaking up the hardened denial of what you read. This is NOT meant to be you being suddenly a Zetatalk believer, no way. This is meant to improve your ability to let any zetatalk information flow through your mind while filtering out what is deemed to be BS for you.

At any time you will have full control about the information you accept or not but you need to know about all the aspects the zetas spoke and speak about, not only about planet x and other scientific stuff. Most importantly it is the spiritual part, the part about the soul.

Every time you think and speak and read about spiritual stuff in general you are automatically reconstructing your mindset and maybe establish a new or brighter pathway to your mind/spirit connection.

Whenever you fall back into old habits this pathway most likely is getting narrower.

The rest is your own journey. Zetatalk can be the spark that helps you or not. Free will was given to you by God, so to speak.

Suddenly it is completely irrelevant to you if there is a Planet X, a pole-shift an announcement by Obama or the like.

Whatever one may believe regarding the source of the Messages from the Zetas through Nancy, the contents are so new to us and revolutionary, yet so compelling by their logic and sublime simplicity, that a serious study of them must be undertaken in order to comprehend their significance and challenge.
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All I heard was lalalalalalalalalala
Apparently it's easier to whine about debunkers than it is to substantiate any of Nancytalk with credible sources and intelligent debate. Just as we have come to expect with Nancy and her chicken little cult. Almost 1200 pages and not one person has been willing or able to try.
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"What if a rogue planet swept through the solar system, altering Earth's orbit? Potentially, the death of all life on the planet, according to a new Weather Channel special."

[link to news.yahoo.com]

!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
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"What if a rogue planet swept through the solar system, altering Earth's orbit? Potentially, the death of all life on the planet, according to a new Weather Channel special."

[link to news.yahoo.com]

!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
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Sigh. The only head you clipped was Nancy's.

The article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.' From your OWN link:

"Forecasting the End," a new Weather Channel series, premieres March 21, exploring the possible results of a rogue planet fly-by. Rogue planets, or planets not linked to stars, may outnumber actual stars in the Milky Way galaxy. Myths about "Planet X" or "Nibiru" hold that a stealth rogue planet is headed this way (actually, it was supposed to hit on the Mayan apocalypse on Dec. 21, 2012).

In fact, the likelihood of a rogue planet swinging by is slim. Astronomers have yet to find any evidence that any of the planets in our own solar system are captured rogues. And the average space between rogue planets and other bodies in our galaxy is quite expansive, Bad Astronomy blogger Phil Plait has calculated. In other words, a collision isn't likely.

The first episode of "Forecasting the End" focuses on what might happen in this very unlikely scenario. Potentially, scientists say, a planet passing by could alter the orbits of the planets in the solar system, making Earth's orbit more elliptical.

A more elliptical orbit would be bad news for life. Earth orbits in a relatively thin habitable zone around the sun, which allows for temperatures where water can be a solid, liquid or gas.

This more elliptical orbit might not push Earth out of this zone, but could bring the planet close enough to the sun to create short, extremely intense summers and then far enough away for very long winters. This would create a shorter growing period and mass food shortages, even human extinction.

"Life on Earth is very much dependent on the orbit we are in around the sun," said David Bennett, a University of Notre Dame astrophysicist.
 Quoting: Weather Channel


You forgot that little tidbit because...?

And television over-sensationalizing unlikely or even impossible events? Whatever will they think of next?
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All right. I am trying to answer it and hope that I find the right words. My answer is that I don't know it, honestly I have absolutely no idea if that really happened or not and I am completely unable to speak with you about the subject because when I've read about it some time ago I filtered it out, so to say. I took it into consideration, found that it would take to much time to understand and dropped it so it wouldn't distract me from what I'm really trying to gain.

This does NOT mean I am running away from it, I just filtered it out to be of any importance to me after having read about it, true or not true - I cannot evaluate. I don't care, hence I don't follow this "Moon was halted in its orbit or not" thing because there is no spiritual outcome for me.

As an example: I also filter out what is said to be Nancy Talk. It is my understanding that she as a human is erroneous in some things and in others not.

Also I filter out what Ann s. says sometimes, because I consider it as unnecessary to call a person she does not know personally to be a payed shill. She simply answeres the emotional call on her with a negative emotion -
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


How can you filter out such basic knowledge of our own planet and the solar system when the entire premise of zetatalk is based on the supposed existence of planet x in our solar system? Look dude, it's not rocket science. My grandchildren learned enough in grade 5 to see how ridiculous Nancy's ideas are! If Nancy doesn't know even this much about astronomy and our solar system, why would you waste time on any of the bullshit found at Nancy's place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10422385


How can you filter out such basic knowledge of our own planet and the solar system when the entire premise of zetatalk is based on the supposed existence of planet x in our solar system? Look dude, it's not rocket science. My grandchildren learned enough in grade 5 to see how ridiculous Nancy's ideas are! If Nancy doesn't know even this much about astronomy and our solar system, why would you waste time on any of the bullshit found at Nancy's place.
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Not true. You surely haven't read zetatalk and just proved it.
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"What if a rogue planet swept through the solar system, altering Earth's orbit? Potentially, the death of all life on the planet, according to a new Weather Channel special."

[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Kiwi Coward 36639796

And her the link to the article of Phil Plait, mentioned in the Yahoo article:
[link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]

Sometimes it's of advantage to follow links in articles.


!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!
 Quoting: Kiwi Coward 36639796

Ooops - where in the articles or in the Weather Channel videos do they mention a pole shift?
Please enlighten us.


Thats the way bullshit like this evolves: A mixture of science, pseudoscience, hearsay and woo woo.
Initially ther is the most unlikely event of a rogue planet coming near our solar system (my be once in the livetime of earth).
At the end you have hundreds of webpages of a captured planet with a 3600 year orbit. And only the flyby will flipp earth axis.

And the most silly argument: When it's on hundreds of webpages it must be true.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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