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Whatever one may believe regarding the source of the Messages from the Zetas through Nancy, the contents are so new to us and revolutionary, yet so compelling by their logic and sublime simplicity, that a serious study of them must be undertaken in order to comprehend their significance and challenge.
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One little problem... there is really nothing new or revolutionary about what "Zetas" say about spiritual matters. The whole "STO" thing is a spiritual trap, IMHO. Your presumption that none of the debunkers understand anything in the 'spiritual' realm speaks volumes... about YOU.
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Ok, I see it in a different way but If I start now to tell you to read...,...,... we are running in circles again. This obvously cannot be solved between us, I guess.
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You act as if we have been in a discussion about spirituality all along. We have not. YOU came on here touting GENERAL "Zeta accuracy", did you not? You pretended that we simply couldn't "understand" what Zetatalk was saying and danced around, alluding to some mysterious content which we just hadn't grasped. Nonsense! Spirituality is NOT what we have been discussing and I daresay, with all due humility, that I have some insight into that area. If you desire to discuss general spirituality, then SAY SO! There may be some who are interested in engaging in that discussion. On the other hand, it is the Zeta supporters who constantly claim that the Zeta claims about the PHYSICAL WORLD are accurate, when they are demonstrably not.
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Whatever one may believe regarding the source of the Messages from the Zetas through Nancy, the contents are so new to us and revolutionary, yet so compelling by their logic and sublime simplicity, that a serious study of them must be undertaken in order to comprehend their significance and challenge.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


One little problem... there is really nothing new or revolutionary about what "Zetas" say about spiritual matters. The whole "STO" thing is a spiritual trap, IMHO. Your presumption that none of the debunkers understand anything in the 'spiritual' realm speaks volumes... about YOU.
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Ok, I see it in a different way but If I start now to tell you to read...,...,... we are running in circles again. This obvously cannot be solved between us, I guess.
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I have reread your message and found my answer to it to be incomplete.

The spiritual part in Zetatalk cannot be found only in those sites where they describe the soul or spirit. It is distributed througout the whole zetatalk domain but most importantly (to me) is the part about the soul and spirit and science and so on. Zetatalk should be considered as a whole. The way the zetas describe a spiritual development (STO - STS) including all the grey tones is something I understand but this is not really the mind blowing way to describe it, in my opinion. Anyway, it is their way to explain it.
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AC 36382091, the communication between us has improved, wouldn't you argee?

I think because we eventually managed to get on a basis where we can exchange arguments and respect each other for our views. (Not to be confused with objective facts.)

But why can some believers seemingly not get past the "paid debunker thing"?
You must agree that an emotional barrier to avoid a critical discussion seems plausible? I mean, what matters is the message, not the messenger so much.
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But why can some believers seemingly not get past the "paid debunker thing"?
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Because ann s said so? Calling somebody you don't know a paid shill without having seen the paychek is a NO-GO, imo. They are running into the same problems like everyone else would.

You must agree that an emotional barrier to avoid a critical discussion seems plausible? I mean, what matters is the message, not the messenger so much.
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I think a barrier to a certain degree is not only plausibel but necessary to survive.

I mean, what matters is the message, not the messenger so much.
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Absolutely.
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Because ann s said so?
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No, because EVERY Zeta supporter and Nancy, herself, CONSTANTLY calls anyone speaking against Zetatalk claims a "paid shill".
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Because ann s said so?
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No, because EVERY Zeta supporter and Nancy, herself, CONSTANTLY calls anyone speaking against Zetatalk claims a "paid shill".
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Well, I don't see every Zeta supporter on this thread or on the poleshift.ning constantly saying that, so I can't tell. Nancy and ann s surely claim it but why would you care?
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I think a barrier to a certain degree is not only plausibel but necessary to survive.

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True. But thats exactly what I worry about.

I know how deep some are into it, and even if it is their choices, Im frightened how to get them out of it without subsequent damage to them.

I say this because I've experienced how it feels to have your entire belief turned up-side-down in a brink.
It took me a few days to contemplate everything..like defragmenting your harddrive.

Not expecting an answer here, just thinking how to approach in the healthiest way.

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Because ann s said so?
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No, because EVERY Zeta supporter and Nancy, herself, CONSTANTLY calls anyone speaking against Zetatalk claims a "paid shill".
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Well, I don't see every Zeta supporter on this thread or on the poleshift.ning constantly saying that, so I can't tell. Nancy and ann s surely claim it but why would you care?
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How obtuse ARE you? For one, it IS a constant with that bunch. Second- Didn't YOU just say something about how attacks and name-calling were undesirable?
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I don't care, hence I don't follow this "Moon was halted in its orbit or not" thing because there is no spiritual outcome for me.


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Then why did YOU come on here, touting "Zeta accuracy" about such things?
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Indeed. On the one hand the Zeta's are said to be "accurate" but on the other hand when inaccuracies are pointed out they are "filtered out." That's called confirmation bias.
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I abolutely agree with you.
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I appreciate your perspective.
I think it might be worthy to point out that the debunkers main impulse seems to be the fearmongering of Nancy (Just like her latest Post on the Ning) and the resulting paranoia and confusion it conducts among people.

I don't think there's much discussion over the morale concepts... as they are usally subjective issues everyone has to sort out for himself.

Now, how can we improve connection between the more hardened believers?

I'd be really interested in your feedback.
What, in your opinion, struck out the most in a negative way regarding having a mature discussion when you came here?
Or, in other words, what was very counter-productive in regards to a discussion?

They way people answered? The tone?

Thanks.
Eventually your feedback could save time and improve efficiency of all parties involved.
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I think it might be worthy to point out that the debunkers main impulse seems to be the fearmongering of Nancy (Just like her latest Post on the Ning) and the resulting paranoia and confusion it conducts among people.
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I think I understand what you say. The thing is that I wouldn't support the way she does it (fearmongering) but since I consider Nancy and the Zetas as two different sources of information which can contain errors due to a certain unsharpness I don't blame the Zetas for it. Nancy has, like every human, free will.

Now, how can we improve connection between the more hardened believers?
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Already happening, automatically and constantly.

What, in your opinion, struck out the most in a negative way regarding having a mature discussion when you came here?
Or, in other words, what was very counter-productive in regards to a discussion?
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There was not a single thing, word, sentences or gesture that was conter-productive by anyone here on this site ever, imo.
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Because ann s said so?
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No, because EVERY Zeta supporter and Nancy, herself, CONSTANTLY calls anyone speaking against Zetatalk claims a "paid shill".
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Well, I don't see every Zeta supporter on this thread or on the poleshift.ning constantly saying that, so I can't tell. Nancy and ann s surely claim it but why would you care?
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Hm. I would be interested to see *any* Zeta supporter challenge Nancy and Ann about their claims about paid shills.

However, I shan't hold my breath.
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I consider Nancy and the Zetas as two different sources of information which can contain errors due to a certain unsharpness I don't blame the Zetas for it. Nancy has, like every human, free will.


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So the many, many errors in claims and predictions about the physical world are all due to this "unsharpness" and Zetas aren't really saying all those false things? On the other hand, you apparently believe that any 'spiritual' instructions or information has passed through Nancy without significant error? That's quite a dichotomy you have going there.
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I think a barrier to a certain degree is not only plausibel but necessary to survive.

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True. But thats exactly what I worry about.

I know how deep some are into it, and even if it is their choices, Im frightened how to get them out of it without subsequent damage to them.

I say this because I've experienced how it feels to have your entire belief turned up-side-down in a brink.
It took me a few days to contemplate everything..like defragmenting your harddrive.

Not expecting an answer here, just thinking how to approach in the healthiest way.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


True. But thats exactly what I worry about.

I know how deep some are into it, and even if it is their choices, Im frightened how to get them out of it without subsequent damage to them.
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Maybe your answer is clearly in front of you. It might be that you can't get them out because they don't and ever will share your perspective.

The following is not meant to be offensive: If you deeply care about a friend or a group in the hands of what some call a cult then why would you leave this group in the hands of someone you consider to be a thread? Wouldn't it make sense to stay in there and gain information and at the same time work on another front? be near your enemy - ok this word is not so good but you get my point.

Don't feel bad or sorrow about your friends, everybody has to go their way - free will. You did nothing wrong, instead you did what you thought is the right thing to do and this can never be wrong from your perspective.
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I consider Nancy and the Zetas as two different sources of information which can contain errors due to a certain unsharpness I don't blame the Zetas for it. Nancy has, like every human, free will.


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So the many, many errors in claims and predictions about the physical world are all due to this "unsharpness" and Zetas aren't really saying all those false things? On the other hand, you apparently believe that any 'spiritual' instructions or information has passed through Nancy without significant error? That's quite a dichotomy you have going there.
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No. I did not say that, or at least not intentionally. What I am saying is that their is unsharpness in everything in what you call the physical world in what the zetas say about spirituality about science about everything. The Zetas absolutely don't know everything, this privilege is only reserved for God.

If you would only have read and understand zetatalk.
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I consider Nancy and the Zetas as two different sources of information which can contain errors due to a certain unsharpness I don't blame the Zetas for it. Nancy has, like every human, free will.


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So the many, many errors in claims and predictions about the physical world are all due to this "unsharpness" and Zetas aren't really saying all those false things? On the other hand, you apparently believe that any 'spiritual' instructions or information has passed through Nancy without significant error? That's quite a dichotomy you have going there.
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No. I did not say that, or at least not intentionally. What I am saying is that their is unsharpness in everything in what you call the physical world in what the zetas say about spirituality about science about everything.
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No, there is no "unsharpness" as to whether Earth is halted in orbit or not. I already posed questions to you about whether you are talking about some sort of alternate reality where the Zeta claims are true. Funny- you didn't answer.

The Zetas absolutely don't know everything, this privilege is only reserved for God.

If you would only have read and understand zetatalk.
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Really? You are quite the arrogant ass with your obtuse dismissal of other's comments in favor of your alleged "TRVTH" found in your precious Zetatalk. We are not talking about KNOWING EVERYTHING, you pompous jerk. We are talking about claims of fact in the physical world. One more time.... YOU came on here touting Zeta "accuracy" in that very world YOU are apparently now saying is never solidly definable.
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I consider Nancy and the Zetas as two different sources of information which can contain errors due to a certain unsharpness I don't blame the Zetas for it. Nancy has, like every human, free will.


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So the many, many errors in claims and predictions about the physical world are all due to this "unsharpness" and Zetas aren't really saying all those false things? On the other hand, you apparently believe that any 'spiritual' instructions or information has passed through Nancy without significant error? That's quite a dichotomy you have going there.
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No. I did not say that, or at least not intentionally. What I am saying is that their is unsharpness in everything in what you call the physical world in what the zetas say about spirituality about science about everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


No, there is no "unsharpness" as to whether Earth is halted in orbit or not. I already posed questions to you about whether you are talking about some sort of alternate reality where the Zeta claims are true. Funny- you didn't answer.

The Zetas absolutely don't know everything, this privilege is only reserved for God.

If you would only have read and understand zetatalk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Really? You are quite the arrogant ass with your obtuse dismissal of other's comments in favor of your alleged "TRVTH" found in your precious Zetatalk. We are not talking about KNOWING EVERYTHING, you pompous jerk. We are talking about claims of fact in the physical world. One more time.... YOU came on here touting Zeta "accuracy" in that very world YOU are apparently now saying is never solidly definable.
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There is accuracy in what the Zetas relay and it can be found here: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
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Hey, FS. Long time no see.

So, since 2007 and 2012 didn't pan out -- how long are you willing to give Nancy *this* time? End of 2013? Beyond?

Or are you unwilling to give any expiration date on Nancy's claims at all, because the milk has just gone too far off?

You'll be believing her through 2030? 2040? To infinity and beyond?
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I'll give it as long as it'll take. It's like predicting a nuke war...the bombs exist but nobody knows when they will be used..logical.
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I consider Nancy and the Zetas as two different sources of information which can contain errors due to a certain unsharpness I don't blame the Zetas for it. Nancy has, like every human, free will.


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So the many, many errors in claims and predictions about the physical world are all due to this "unsharpness" and Zetas aren't really saying all those false things? On the other hand, you apparently believe that any 'spiritual' instructions or information has passed through Nancy without significant error? That's quite a dichotomy you have going there.
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No. I did not say that, or at least not intentionally. What I am saying is that their is unsharpness in everything in what you call the physical world in what the zetas say about spirituality about science about everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


No, there is no "unsharpness" as to whether Earth is halted in orbit or not. I already posed questions to you about whether you are talking about some sort of alternate reality where the Zeta claims are true. Funny- you didn't answer.

The Zetas absolutely don't know everything, this privilege is only reserved for God.

If you would only have read and understand zetatalk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Really? You are quite the arrogant ass with your obtuse dismissal of other's comments in favor of your alleged "TRVTH" found in your precious Zetatalk. We are not talking about KNOWING EVERYTHING, you pompous jerk. We are talking about claims of fact in the physical world. One more time.... YOU came on here touting Zeta "accuracy" in that very world YOU are apparently now saying is never solidly definable.
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Is this what you mean, Meno?

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Hey mate, you're the one who brought her up, not me??

I'm the one who is wondering about the solar system warming up
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And you're the one clearly sore as can be about it. I'm still waiting for you to actually address my post.
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I'm not sure what u want me to say?

I'm not an astronomer, I'm just a kiwi block who enjoys learning about alternative subjects.

"For several years, astronomers have observed that a handful of the small icy bodies that lie in the so-called "scattered disc" beyond the orbit of the planet Neptune, including the dwarf planet Sedna, deviate from the paths around the sun that would be expected based on the gravitational pulls of all the known objects in the solar system.
Sedna, for example, swings around the sun in an extremely elongated orbit — tracing out a very long oval. "Sedna's orbit is truly peculiar," said Mike Brown, an astronomer at Caltech who led the team that discovered Sedna in 2003."
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About Sedna:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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I posted the links above because they all deal with "Sedna" to support what the other person said about it. To make it distinguishable between general Zetatalk and their accuracy track record I took the title of the last link: Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Freestore and logical is an oxymoron, do you know what logical means Freestore?
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So the many, many errors in claims and predictions about the physical world are all due to this "unsharpness" and Zetas aren't really saying all those false things? On the other hand, you apparently believe that any 'spiritual' instructions or information has passed through Nancy without significant error? That's quite a dichotomy you have going there.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


No. I did not say that, or at least not intentionally. What I am saying is that their is unsharpness in everything in what you call the physical world in what the zetas say about spirituality about science about everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


No, there is no "unsharpness" as to whether Earth is halted in orbit or not. I already posed questions to you about whether you are talking about some sort of alternate reality where the Zeta claims are true. Funny- you didn't answer.

The Zetas absolutely don't know everything, this privilege is only reserved for God.

If you would only have read and understand zetatalk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Really? You are quite the arrogant ass with your obtuse dismissal of other's comments in favor of your alleged "TRVTH" found in your precious Zetatalk. We are not talking about KNOWING EVERYTHING, you pompous jerk. We are talking about claims of fact in the physical world. One more time.... YOU came on here touting Zeta "accuracy" in that very world YOU are apparently now saying is never solidly definable.
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


There is accuracy in what the Zetas relay and it can be found here: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
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"Accuracy *IN*..."??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate? Maybe you shouldn't be trying to discuss things in English- you sure don't seem rational.
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Would you care to link us to reputable proof from outside of the Zeta site AC2091?
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So the many, many errors in claims and predictions about the physical world are all due to this "unsharpness" and Zetas aren't really saying all those false things? On the other hand, you apparently believe that any 'spiritual' instructions or information has passed through Nancy without significant error? That's quite a dichotomy you have going there.
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


No. I did not say that, or at least not intentionally. What I am saying is that their is unsharpness in everything in what you call the physical world in what the zetas say about spirituality about science about everything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


No, there is no "unsharpness" as to whether Earth is halted in orbit or not. I already posed questions to you about whether you are talking about some sort of alternate reality where the Zeta claims are true. Funny- you didn't answer.

The Zetas absolutely don't know everything, this privilege is only reserved for God.

If you would only have read and understand zetatalk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Really? You are quite the arrogant ass with your obtuse dismissal of other's comments in favor of your alleged "TRVTH" found in your precious Zetatalk. We are not talking about KNOWING EVERYTHING, you pompous jerk. We are talking about claims of fact in the physical world. One more time.... YOU came on here touting Zeta "accuracy" in that very world YOU are apparently now saying is never solidly definable.
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


Is this what you mean, Meno?

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And you're the one clearly sore as can be about it. I'm still waiting for you to actually address my post.
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I'm not sure what u want me to say?

I'm not an astronomer, I'm just a kiwi block who enjoys learning about alternative subjects.

"For several years, astronomers have observed that a handful of the small icy bodies that lie in the so-called "scattered disc" beyond the orbit of the planet Neptune, including the dwarf planet Sedna, deviate from the paths around the sun that would be expected based on the gravitational pulls of all the known objects in the solar system.
Sedna, for example, swings around the sun in an extremely elongated orbit — tracing out a very long oval. "Sedna's orbit is truly peculiar," said Mike Brown, an astronomer at Caltech who led the team that discovered Sedna in 2003."
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About Sedna:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming:
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


I posted the links above because they all deal with "Sedna" to support what the other person said about it. To make it distinguishable between general Zetatalk and their accuracy track record I took the title of the last link: Zetatalk accuracy, proof just keeps coming -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Yes, that is what I mean. The constant braying of "Zetas right again" has been tossed in the faces of people who point out the errors in the Zeta claims for over a decade now. There IS no "accuracy" in the Zeta claims about anything astronomical or geological or really anything to do with the physical world I can observe. That list is a collection of misrepresented news stories, twisted facts and outright lies.
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Freestore and logical is an oxymoron, do you know what logical means Freestore?
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No, please explain that to me...
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Hey, FS. Long time no see.

So, since 2007 and 2012 didn't pan out -- how long are you willing to give Nancy *this* time? End of 2013? Beyond?

Or are you unwilling to give any expiration date on Nancy's claims at all, because the milk has just gone too far off?

You'll be believing her through 2030? 2040? To infinity and beyond?
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I'll give it as long as it'll take. It's like predicting a nuke war...the bombs exist but nobody knows when they will be used..logical.
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Except that Planet X, as Nancy describes it, DOES NOT exist.
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No. I did not say that, or at least not intentionally. What I am saying is that their is unsharpness in everything in what you call the physical world in what the zetas say about spirituality about science about everything.
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No, there is no "unsharpness" as to whether Earth is halted in orbit or not. I already posed questions to you about whether you are talking about some sort of alternate reality where the Zeta claims are true. Funny- you didn't answer.

The Zetas absolutely don't know everything, this privilege is only reserved for God.

If you would only have read and understand zetatalk.
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Really? You are quite the arrogant ass with your obtuse dismissal of other's comments in favor of your alleged "TRVTH" found in your precious Zetatalk. We are not talking about KNOWING EVERYTHING, you pompous jerk. We are talking about claims of fact in the physical world. One more time.... YOU came on here touting Zeta "accuracy" in that very world YOU are apparently now saying is never solidly definable.
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There is accuracy in what the Zetas relay and it can be found here: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
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"Accuracy *IN*..."??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate? Maybe you shouldn't be trying to discuss things in English- you sure don't seem rational.
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I understand my english writing skills are not as good as they should be. I will try to do better next time.
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The Zetas absolutely don't know everything,
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It has yet to be demonstrated that "Zetas" know ANYTHING!
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Freestore and logical is an oxymoron, do you know what logical means Freestore?
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No, please explain that to me...
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It means get your head out of Zetatalk, step out of the party room and look up to the sky.
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No, there is no "unsharpness" as to whether Earth is halted in orbit or not. I already posed questions to you about whether you are talking about some sort of alternate reality where the Zeta claims are true. Funny- you didn't answer.

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Really? You are quite the arrogant ass with your obtuse dismissal of other's comments in favor of your alleged "TRVTH" found in your precious Zetatalk. We are not talking about KNOWING EVERYTHING, you pompous jerk. We are talking about claims of fact in the physical world. One more time.... YOU came on here touting Zeta "accuracy" in that very world YOU are apparently now saying is never solidly definable.
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There is accuracy in what the Zetas relay and it can be found here: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
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"Accuracy *IN*..."??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate? Maybe you shouldn't be trying to discuss things in English- you sure don't seem rational.
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I understand my english writing skills are not as good as they should be. I will try to do better next time.
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Why don't you try answering the question I asked you THIS time? See bolded.
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Would you care to link us to reputable proof from outside of the Zeta site AC2091?
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Proof of what?
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The Zetas absolutely don't know everything,
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It has yet to be demonstrated that "Zetas" know ANYTHING!
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Freestore and logical is an oxymoron, do you know what logical means Freestore?
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No, please explain that to me...
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It means get your head out of Zetatalk, step out of the party room and look up to the sky.
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I definity do at night...In the day it's too bright looking anywhere due to the monster bright white sun.

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