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The whole Zetabullshit is a big bunch of lies. All their predictions failed and Nancy is only spreading nonsense. Or does anyone still remember the 7 of 10 which should be over in some weeks? What about the poleshift will come in 2003? Why did these morons eat their pets? What about the shock of the world in 2010? What about 2012 is too far out?

These cult only abuses terms like spirituality for their more or less criminal intentions. They want to brainwash people and get new innocent victims who believe in Nancy`s bull.

Besides that Nancy`s claims are more than ridiculous. Every child can see that the earth didn`t stop in its orbit. Why can nobody see this cult planet? Why do all astronomic events always happen as predicted? What about solar eclipses?

This pseudoesoteric religious babble is only another attempt to distract from all their permanent epic fails. I`m not sure what this Ningtard wants here but he is apparently only here for spamming around with old Zetababble (Nancybabble).
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There is accuracy in what the Zetas relay and it can be found here: [link to poleshift.ning.com]
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"Accuracy *IN*..."??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate? Maybe you shouldn't be trying to discuss things in English- you sure don't seem rational.
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I understand my english writing skills are not as good as they should be. I will try to do better next time.
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Why don't you try answering the question I asked you THIS time? See bolded.
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[...]??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate?[...]
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


Yes, I do. There are predictions made by the Zetas and there are the refering articles to these predictions for example. It is all there, you just need to read it.
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Yes, I do. There are predictions made by the Zetas and there are the refering articles to these predictions for example. It is all there, you just need to read it.
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So, basically, "read everything and find the accurate bits yourself"? Or, "I believe it's ALL accurate, and don't feel like trying to defend it".
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Look, Djakarta webcam: [link to nl.webcams.travel]

Zetas wrong again.

Are you physically incapable of answering simple yes/no questions.
Why are newagers always so bloody vague?

It has been established that NOT A SINGLE prediction from the alleged superaliens that referred to the real world and wasn't so vague to be meaningless has come true.

And your excuse is we don't UNDERSTAND?
While it's rather obviously these alleged superaliens who don't understand anything of reality?

What is your excuse for believing such utter unadulterated bullshit?
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"Accuracy *IN*..."??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate? Maybe you shouldn't be trying to discuss things in English- you sure don't seem rational.
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


I understand my english writing skills are not as good as they should be. I will try to do better next time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Why don't you try answering the question I asked you THIS time? See bolded.
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


[...]??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate?[...]
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


Yes, I do. There are predictions made by the Zetas and there are the refering articles to these predictions for example. It is all there, you just need to read it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Apparently you don't understand that Nancy is a QUEEN of misrepresentation of facts and cherry-picks articles which she spins to SEEM like the support her claims when they actually don't.

You also don't seem to understand that many of us HAVE read the Zetatalk claims as they were first presented and seen right through them each time, and SHOWED why those claims were false. Nancy just ignores that and continued to pile them up, one upon another, until she has amassed this astounding collection of steaming BS we see today.

Nancy and "Zetas" create such voluminous diatribes that no one cares to wade through them. Her believers just take the attitude that even though they don't understand what is being said, that it must be right. Debunkers grow tired of picking Nancy's proclamations apart because it just falls on deaf ears anyway. In the end, that just means that Nancy's latest "Zetatalk" just gets added to the pile and declared to be correct regardless of any outside input or discussion of the facts. After all, on the ning it is not even ALLOWED to discuss whether any Zetatalk is flawed in any way.

If you care to pick out items in that accuracy list you care to defend, logically, go right ahead. On the other hand, you have already admitted that you don't know and don't care whether claims of accuracy are valid or not.
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I understand my english writing skills are not as good as they should be. I will try to do better next time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Why don't you try answering the question I asked you THIS time? See bolded.
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


[...]??? Does that mean you can find SOMETHING in there which is accurate?[...]
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


Yes, I do. There are predictions made by the Zetas and there are the refering articles to these predictions for example. It is all there, you just need to read it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Apparently you don't understand that Nancy is a QUEEN of misrepresentation of facts and cherry-picks articles which she spins to SEEM like the support her claims when they actually don't.

You also don't seem to understand that many of us HAVE read the Zetatalk claims as they were first presented and seen right through them each time, and SHOWED why those claims were false. Nancy just ignores that and continued to pile them up, one upon another, until she has amassed this astounding collection of steaming BS we see today.

Nancy and "Zetas" create such voluminous diatribes that no one cares to wade through them. Her believers just take the attitude that even though they don't understand what is being said, that it must be right. Debunkers grow tired of picking Nancy's proclamations apart because it just falls on deaf ears anyway. In the end, that just means that Nancy's latest "Zetatalk" just gets added to the pile and declared to be correct regardless of any outside input or discussion of the facts. After all, on the ning it is not even ALLOWED to discuss whether any Zetatalk is flawed in any way.

If you care to pick out items in that accuracy list you care to defend, logically, go right ahead. On the other hand, you have already admitted that you don't know and don't care whether claims of accuracy are valid or not.
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In any case, the goal isn't to convince the believers; in any cult, the believers will almost always be a lost cause. The goal is to help others from getting sucked in. In many cases, its enough to make people aware that the Nibiru and Pole Shift ideas they've been hearing come from someone who thinks she's in psychic communication with aliens.
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Because ann s said so?
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No, because EVERY Zeta supporter and Nancy, herself, CONSTANTLY calls anyone speaking against Zetatalk claims a "paid shill".
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Well, I don't see every Zeta supporter on this thread or on the poleshift.ning constantly saying that, so I can't tell. Nancy and ann s surely claim it but why would you care?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


How obtuse ARE you? For one, it IS a constant with that bunch. Second- Didn't YOU just say something about how attacks and name-calling were undesirable?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


How obtuse ARE you? For one, it IS a constant with that bunch. Second- Didn't YOU just say something about how attacks and name-calling were undesirable?
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Yes, it is undesirable that ann s and Nancy claim that, but I don't see that every Zeta supporter on this thread or on the poleshift.ning constantly does this, too.
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No, because EVERY Zeta supporter and Nancy, herself, CONSTANTLY calls anyone speaking against Zetatalk claims a "paid shill".
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Well, I don't see every Zeta supporter on this thread or on the poleshift.ning constantly saying that, so I can't tell. Nancy and ann s surely claim it but why would you care?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


How obtuse ARE you? For one, it IS a constant with that bunch. Second- Didn't YOU just say something about how attacks and name-calling were undesirable?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


How obtuse ARE you? For one, it IS a constant with that bunch. Second- Didn't YOU just say something about how attacks and name-calling were undesirable?
 Quoting: Menow 17887948


Yes, it is undesirable that ann s and Nancy claim that, but I don't see that every Zeta supporter on this thread or on the poleshift.ning constantly does this, too.
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You're playing word games and semantics. The idea of "paid shills" is the ONE thing which never ceases in any Zeta believer's world-view. That there is an organized effort to suppress the Zeta "truth". Without that aspect of the story Nancy's cult would fall right apart because the believers would not have the same amount of resistance to outside information showing where Zetatalk claims are wrong.
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Soon ... and VERY SOON!
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Thank you for putting our minds at ease...because we all know that when it comes to "Planet X" soon is a measurement of time equal to never.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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I'll give it as long as it'll take. It's like predicting a nuke war...the bombs exist but nobody knows when they will be used..logical.
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Translation: It doesn't matter how many times it fails to show up, he'll continue to believe it's coming simply because Nancy said so.

Last Edited by Circuit Breaker on 03/21/2013 05:49 PM
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You mean like those thoughts:
"Hm.. why bother to change the present when PX is going to wipe out everything...?"

or

"If those concepts about morale ring true does it mean the rest of ZT true aswell?"

Oh right... that hasn't much to do with spirituality.

I prefer to rather DO than just THINK...
Today it ment sharing my meal with a homeless guy - believe it or not.



Still no answer.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Wait a second:
Herewith, you're officially ignored due to redundant shilling and evading questions.
Come back when you got some arguments.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Suspected that would be following. tounge
As long as you don't just copy n paste zetababble all is fine...

After all we want to hear from YOU, how you justify those errorenous ZT to yourself...

If we want to read ZetaBS we very well know where to find it.

Also,
I still haven't answered Hydras question and don't want to because I do not have a plausible answer...
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Noted.. hf
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Those persons who use abusive/negative words towards people like Nancy and readers of Zetatalk and the poleshift.ning have established an emotional connection to these groups or persons.

Whenever an emotional connection stays unanswered the same way it was once established (due to abusive words for example) it creates even more distress in the minds of those who initialized this connection. The Barricade increases in size.

If you are able to disconnect the first step is done and you can proceed to "fight" your enemy in that you get closer to him than ever before.

Since some (?) debunkers do not distinguish between Nancy and the zetas, disconnecting emotionally from Nancy and the Zetas would be required for the next step.

Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox (without having read ALL the Zetatalk with an opened state of mind and heart to your best knowledge!). OK so far.

Now, since you are disconnected from Nancy and the Zetas you will be able to get closer to what you maybe consider as your "enemy", the Zetas. You automatically are more able to read and understand Zetatalk and its vast amount of information. You then will eventually be able to read Zetatalk with an opened mind, your heart and eventually breaking up the hardened denial of what you read. This is NOT meant to be you being suddenly a Zetatalk believer, no way. This is meant to improve your ability to let any zetatalk information flow through your mind while filtering out what is deemed to be BS for you.

At any time you will have full control about the information you accept or not but you need to know about all the aspects the zetas spoke and speak about, not only about planet x and other scientific stuff. Most importantly it is the spiritual part, the part about the soul.

Every time you think and speak and read about spiritual stuff in general you are automatically reconstructing your mindset and maybe establish a new or brighter pathway to your mind/spirit connection.

Whenever you fall back into old habits this pathway most likely is getting narrower.

The rest is your own journey. Zetatalk can be the spark that helps you or not. Free will was given to you by God, so to speak.

Suddenly it is completely irrelevant to you if there is a Planet X, a pole-shift an announcement by Obama or the like.

Whatever one may believe regarding the source of the Messages from the Zetas through Nancy, the contents are so new to us and revolutionary, yet so compelling by their logic and sublime simplicity, that a serious study of them must be undertaken in order to comprehend their significance and challenge.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


All I heard was lalalalalalalalalala
Apparently it's easier to whine about debunkers than it is to substantiate any of Nancytalk with credible sources and intelligent debate. Just as we have come to expect with Nancy and her chicken little cult. Almost 1200 pages and not one person has been willing or able to try.
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All right. I am trying to answer it and hope that I find the right words. My answer is that I don't know it, honestly I have absolutely no idea if that really happened or not and I am completely unable to speak with you about the subject because when I've read about it some time ago I filtered it out, so to say. I took it into consideration, found that it would take to much time to understand and dropped it so it wouldn't distract me from what I'm really trying to gain.

This does NOT mean I am running away from it, I just filtered it out to be of any importance to me after having read about it, true or not true - I cannot evaluate. I don't care, hence I don't follow this "Moon was halted in its orbit or not" thing because there is no spiritual outcome for me.

As an example: I also filter out what is said to be Nancy Talk. It is my understanding that she as a human is erroneous in some things and in others not.

Also I filter out what Ann s. says sometimes, because I consider it as unnecessary to call a person she does not know personally to be a payed shill. She simply answeres the emotional call on her with a negative emotion -
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


How can you filter out such basic knowledge of our own planet and the solar system when the entire premise of zetatalk is based on the supposed existence of planet x in our solar system? Look dude, it's not rocket science. My grandchildren learned enough in grade 5 to see how ridiculous Nancy's ideas are! If Nancy doesn't know even this much about astronomy and our solar system, why would you waste time on any of the bullshit found at Nancy's place.
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Hey, FS. Long time no see.

So, since 2007 and 2012 didn't pan out -- how long are you willing to give Nancy *this* time? End of 2013? Beyond?

Or are you unwilling to give any expiration date on Nancy's claims at all, because the milk has just gone too far off?

You'll be believing her through 2030? 2040? To infinity and beyond?
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I'll give it as long as it'll take. It's like predicting a nuke war...the bombs exist but nobody knows when they will be used..logical.
 Quoting: Free Store 25700344


Nothing logical about it. If you were logical or rational about the issue, there'd be some logical or rational means by which you could change your mind.

You will believe Nancy's prognostications til the end of your life, and, by your own choice, nothing can ever change your mind. Moreover, you're *proud* of that.

Sad.
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Wait a second:
...

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Suspected that would be following. tounge
As long as you don't just copy n paste zetababble all is fine...

After all we want to hear from YOU, how you justify those errorenous ZT to yourself...

If we want to read ZetaBS we very well know where to find it.

Also,
I still haven't answered Hydras question and don't want to because I do not have a plausible answer...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Noted.. hf
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Those persons who use abusive/negative words towards people like Nancy and readers of Zetatalk and the poleshift.ning have established an emotional connection to these groups or persons.

Whenever an emotional connection stays unanswered the same way it was once established (due to abusive words for example) it creates even more distress in the minds of those who initialized this connection. The Barricade increases in size.

If you are able to disconnect the first step is done and you can proceed to "fight" your enemy in that you get closer to him than ever before.

Since some (?) debunkers do not distinguish between Nancy and the zetas, disconnecting emotionally from Nancy and the Zetas would be required for the next step.

Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox (without having read ALL the Zetatalk with an opened state of mind and heart to your best knowledge!). OK so far.

Now, since you are disconnected from Nancy and the Zetas you will be able to get closer to what you maybe consider as your "enemy", the Zetas. You automatically are more able to read and understand Zetatalk and its vast amount of information. You then will eventually be able to read Zetatalk with an opened mind, your heart and eventually breaking up the hardened denial of what you read. This is NOT meant to be you being suddenly a Zetatalk believer, no way. This is meant to improve your ability to let any zetatalk information flow through your mind while filtering out what is deemed to be BS for you.

At any time you will have full control about the information you accept or not but you need to know about all the aspects the zetas spoke and speak about, not only about planet x and other scientific stuff. Most importantly it is the spiritual part, the part about the soul.

Every time you think and speak and read about spiritual stuff in general you are automatically reconstructing your mindset and maybe establish a new or brighter pathway to your mind/spirit connection.

Whenever you fall back into old habits this pathway most likely is getting narrower.

The rest is your own journey. Zetatalk can be the spark that helps you or not. Free will was given to you by God, so to speak.

Suddenly it is completely irrelevant to you if there is a Planet X, a pole-shift an announcement by Obama or the like.

Whatever one may believe regarding the source of the Messages from the Zetas through Nancy, the contents are so new to us and revolutionary, yet so compelling by their logic and sublime simplicity, that a serious study of them must be undertaken in order to comprehend their significance and challenge.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


All I heard was lalalalalalalalalala
Apparently it's easier to whine about debunkers than it is to substantiate any of Nancytalk with credible sources and intelligent debate. Just as we have come to expect with Nancy and her chicken little cult. Almost 1200 pages and not one person has been willing or able to try.
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"What if a rogue planet swept through the solar system, altering Earth's orbit? Potentially, the death of all life on the planet, according to a new Weather Channel special."

[link to news.yahoo.com]

!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
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"What if a rogue planet swept through the solar system, altering Earth's orbit? Potentially, the death of all life on the planet, according to a new Weather Channel special."

[link to news.yahoo.com]

!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
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Sigh. The only head you clipped was Nancy's.

The article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.' From your OWN link:

"Forecasting the End," a new Weather Channel series, premieres March 21, exploring the possible results of a rogue planet fly-by. Rogue planets, or planets not linked to stars, may outnumber actual stars in the Milky Way galaxy. Myths about "Planet X" or "Nibiru" hold that a stealth rogue planet is headed this way (actually, it was supposed to hit on the Mayan apocalypse on Dec. 21, 2012).

In fact, the likelihood of a rogue planet swinging by is slim. Astronomers have yet to find any evidence that any of the planets in our own solar system are captured rogues. And the average space between rogue planets and other bodies in our galaxy is quite expansive, Bad Astronomy blogger Phil Plait has calculated. In other words, a collision isn't likely.

The first episode of "Forecasting the End" focuses on what might happen in this very unlikely scenario. Potentially, scientists say, a planet passing by could alter the orbits of the planets in the solar system, making Earth's orbit more elliptical.

A more elliptical orbit would be bad news for life. Earth orbits in a relatively thin habitable zone around the sun, which allows for temperatures where water can be a solid, liquid or gas.

This more elliptical orbit might not push Earth out of this zone, but could bring the planet close enough to the sun to create short, extremely intense summers and then far enough away for very long winters. This would create a shorter growing period and mass food shortages, even human extinction.

"Life on Earth is very much dependent on the orbit we are in around the sun," said David Bennett, a University of Notre Dame astrophysicist.
 Quoting: Weather Channel


You forgot that little tidbit because...?

And television over-sensationalizing unlikely or even impossible events? Whatever will they think of next?
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All right. I am trying to answer it and hope that I find the right words. My answer is that I don't know it, honestly I have absolutely no idea if that really happened or not and I am completely unable to speak with you about the subject because when I've read about it some time ago I filtered it out, so to say. I took it into consideration, found that it would take to much time to understand and dropped it so it wouldn't distract me from what I'm really trying to gain.

This does NOT mean I am running away from it, I just filtered it out to be of any importance to me after having read about it, true or not true - I cannot evaluate. I don't care, hence I don't follow this "Moon was halted in its orbit or not" thing because there is no spiritual outcome for me.

As an example: I also filter out what is said to be Nancy Talk. It is my understanding that she as a human is erroneous in some things and in others not.

Also I filter out what Ann s. says sometimes, because I consider it as unnecessary to call a person she does not know personally to be a payed shill. She simply answeres the emotional call on her with a negative emotion -
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


How can you filter out such basic knowledge of our own planet and the solar system when the entire premise of zetatalk is based on the supposed existence of planet x in our solar system? Look dude, it's not rocket science. My grandchildren learned enough in grade 5 to see how ridiculous Nancy's ideas are! If Nancy doesn't know even this much about astronomy and our solar system, why would you waste time on any of the bullshit found at Nancy's place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10422385


How can you filter out such basic knowledge of our own planet and the solar system when the entire premise of zetatalk is based on the supposed existence of planet x in our solar system? Look dude, it's not rocket science. My grandchildren learned enough in grade 5 to see how ridiculous Nancy's ideas are! If Nancy doesn't know even this much about astronomy and our solar system, why would you waste time on any of the bullshit found at Nancy's place.
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Not true. You surely haven't read zetatalk and just proved it.
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"What if a rogue planet swept through the solar system, altering Earth's orbit? Potentially, the death of all life on the planet, according to a new Weather Channel special."

[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Kiwi Coward 36639796

And her the link to the article of Phil Plait, mentioned in the Yahoo article:
[link to blogs.discovermagazine.com]

Sometimes it's of advantage to follow links in articles.


!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!
 Quoting: Kiwi Coward 36639796

Ooops - where in the articles or in the Weather Channel videos do they mention a pole shift?
Please enlighten us.


Thats the way bullshit like this evolves: A mixture of science, pseudoscience, hearsay and woo woo.
Initially ther is the most unlikely event of a rogue planet coming near our solar system (my be once in the livetime of earth).
At the end you have hundreds of webpages of a captured planet with a 3600 year orbit. And only the flyby will flipp earth axis.

And the most silly argument: When it's on hundreds of webpages it must be true.

.
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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"What if a rogue planet swept through the solar system, altering Earth's orbit? Potentially, the death of all life on the planet, according to a new Weather Channel special."

[link to news.yahoo.com]

!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
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BOOM...oops a miss!

No where in that article is there a mention of a pole shift. It just talks about a rogue planet.
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Zetababble....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Herewith, you're officially ignored due to redundant shilling and evading questions.
Come back when you got some arguments.

Trying to get a handle on all of the distinct objects that they claim are currently in our solar system about to destroy Earth. So far, I think I've got:
- Nibiru
- Brown Dwarf
- Dark Twin

Which others are there?
 Quoting: phoomp


Thats pretty much it... although Nib is the supposed brown dwarf.
It seems all of these creations have their own "physics" as kinetic, thermodynamics etc doesn't apply to any of these.

Like, pX is supposed to have 23 x the mass of earth, yet it has no influence on any nearby planets...

I figured out you have to eventually multiply every equation with zero... then you have the (non)-influence of these objects or ZetaTalk in general and then it is consistent.

0 x something = 0
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Now you haven't been following nancy LIEders zetababble now have you???

It's a well known (zeta) FACT that there is no such thing as zero- hence your earthly mathematics bear no resemblance to the universe as the zetas know it


(that particular has been used before- not to make fun of you or anything- but when it comes to being original at anything- well the zetas kinda suck at it LOL)

(what they did when they had one apple and it was taken away from them- leaving them `how many' apples- continues to baffle, bemuse and bewilder the finest zeta minds to this day....)

;-)
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ZetaTalk: The Insecure
written Dec 5, 2004

Debunkers, under the guise of presenting truth seem to really fear
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(laugh at)
Nancy, given all the time and energy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

(a 5 to 10 minute a day laughfest normally- tonight is likely to be a comedy festival I suspect)
they spend on her and her ideas be they flawed or nay
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(her ideas arent the problem- its her facts that seem to be rather fatally flawed)
Is it the message, or her perceived insanity they fear?
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(both as they have hurt people emotionally, financially and even fatally- a rather good reason to expose her insanity and its `message' for what it is I personally feel- STO may feel this is rather `beneath' their vaulted calling)

A logical person knows if a person is a crackpot and posting on the internet, you ignore them and they go away. When you fight, piss and moan, all you do is give them more credence in the eyes of those who believe and in the eyes of many on the fence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

(according to nancy LIEder- the number of fence sitters and believers continues to diminish however- sux to be a zetatard dosnt it)
Beyond the professional debunker, whose full or part time job is to haunt message boards or web sites in search of people discussing what the establishment wants to deny at present
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(to date not one of these has even been proven to exist- a bit like planet x LOL)
there are those so in the grip of fear and insecurity that they attack the message for no other reason
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(can you show one of these as well- as most seem to `attack' the message on the basis that its a totally made up lie by a want to be cult mistress that thought it would make her millions)
The message is, in short, unthinkable. Life, for humans on Earth, is highly insecure in the best of times. Even with the best that modern medicine can provide, most illness is not curable and palliative measure only provided. Lightning can strike anytime, any place, and neither prayers or bribes make a difference. Meteors and fireballs from the sky are erratic, and despite man’s best efforts at prediction earthquakes strike without warning, dropping buildings and bridges. Then there are all the reassurances from employers and governments and insurers that pension funds, savings, home ownership and assets, all are solidly there and will be replaced should any event remove them. Yet employers go bankrupt, governments go bankrupt and change their rules or default on their promises, and insurance companies default. Loyalty from friends and family also cannot be relied upon solidly, as the divorce rate and domestic violence statistics show. Friends are supportive only while this friendship aligns with their life circumstances, and the friendship dropped when it becomes inconvenient. Thus, despite man’s best efforts to make himself secure, he is, in essence, standing naked in the cold rain, alone.
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This bit is what truly bewilders me personally- how f....d up is the people who find the below a more attractive option- considering that we all `know' that the zetas have the ability to move planets around- but they wont- so the zeta babble followers are more excited by the description below than to find an alternative- ANY alternative to what they want to happen to all the `rest' of the people on the planet...

just how screwed up in the head ARE these people???
Enter Planet X and the ZetaTalk message that the world will turn upside down, experience earthquakes that will shatter cities everywhere, roll flood tides inland for hundreds of miles along coastlines everywhere, explode industrial complexes into a cesspool of chemical pollution, destroy the communication and transportation networks so that travel is on foot or impossible, remove the convenience of electricity and clean water supplied to the home and replace this with long dark nights and drinking water smelling like the neighbors sewage, suddenly stop the delivery of food stuffs to the local store with no replacement so that rats and weeds and rotting corpses become the only food available. For many, especially those in cities or whose lifestyle by choice or necessity has made them soft and dependent, this is what the message means. Unthinkable. There are no options that come readily to mind, for these individuals.

... more at link
Source: [link to www.zetatalk.com]
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(snip bullshit post)

Whatever one may believe regarding the source of the Messages from the Zetas through Nancy, the contents are so new to us and revolutionary, yet so compelling by their logic and sublime simplicity, that a serious study of them must be undertaken in order to comprehend their significance and challenge.
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unfortunately they are neither new nor revolutionary (in this thread alone there are many examples of nancy ripping off ideas from prior `prophets'...

and to say there is `logic' in anything coming from nancy LIEder or zetababble beggars belief- the word logic and zeta crap have never crossed paths LOL

many `serious studies' have been done(in this thread and others)- all which have found no significance or challenge in any zeta babblings


I go away for a few days and this comedy awaits me- no wonder I keep coming back- zetatards continue to amaze, baffle and confuse- and there's still another couple of pages to go!!


comedy gold- why pay for the comedy channel when you can watch a zetatard do amazing contortions of truth and logic in an attempt to continue their cult beliefs???
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Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox
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The earth is not halted in its orbit, the moon is not being knocked around by forces from planet X, and the earth's axis is still pointing right where it should, not wobbling around wildly to "simulate the seasons." The zetas are talking bollox. Do you get it? Do you even understand? The fundamental beliefs of your cult are false.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Your comment just disqualified you completely to speak about the subject.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


ROTFPMSL

really??

really??????

I mean WTF???

You really CANT find this kind of decent comedy on any tv show....

(This HAS to be a wind up- really-no person could believe this type of crap and still be able to operate a keyboard- god I have seen more logical arguments coming out of a six month old baby- and it was just as smelly coming out of that baby as it was coming from 36382091)

COMEDY GOLD LOL
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I think a barrier to a certain degree is not only plausibel but necessary to survive.

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but (to quote another poster elsewhere)- dont open your mind so far your brains fall out...


True. But thats exactly what I worry about.

I know how deep some are into it, and even if it is their choices, Im frightened how to get them out of it without subsequent damage to them.

I say this because I've experienced how it feels to have your entire belief turned up-side-down in a brink.
It took me a few days to contemplate everything..like defragmenting your harddrive.

Not expecting an answer here, just thinking how to approach in the healthiest way.
 Quoting:


The following is not meant to be offensive: If you deeply care about a friend or a group in the hands of what some call a cult then why would you leave this group in the hands of someone you consider to be a thread? Wouldn't it make sense to stay in there and gain information and at the same time work on another front? be near your enemy - ok this word is not so good but you get my point.

Don't feel bad or sorrow about your friends, everybody has to go their way - free will. You did nothing wrong, instead you did what you thought is the right thing to do and this can never be wrong from your perspective.
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I have mentioned many times before what brought me into `debunking' and frankly- I believe nancy should be locked away for the rest of her years- never to be released- because I truly BELIEVE that she is directly responsible for at least one death of a person I knew- she knowingly and directly caused the probable death of someone I knew personally
(probable death as he hasnt been heard of in over a half decade and is unlikely to suddenly `reappear')

So tell me again ZETATARD (and thats probably quite an insult to retarded people- who normally have some functioning braincells- unlike a zetatard like you)

why I shouldnt feel sorrow or bad about a person who threw away their wife, family, job and ended up as a street bum before finally disappearing (probably died) BECAUSE of nancy LIEders LIES????


REAL `STO' OR `SPIRITUAL' OF YOU...






fuckin wanker brain dead zetatard


(please feel free to report this post- please feel free to show why it is in anyway inaccurate at the same time...)


After all- its just my `free will' talking....
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BOOM...oops a miss!

No where in that article is there a mention of a pole shift. It just talks about a rogue planet.
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Which doesn't mean it exists either. So they missed twice.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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I think a barrier to a certain degree is not only plausibel but necessary to survive.

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but (to quote another poster elsewhere)- dont open your mind so far your brains fall out...


True. But thats exactly what I worry about.

I know how deep some are into it, and even if it is their choices, Im frightened how to get them out of it without subsequent damage to them.

I say this because I've experienced how it feels to have your entire belief turned up-side-down in a brink.
It took me a few days to contemplate everything..like defragmenting your harddrive.

Not expecting an answer here, just thinking how to approach in the healthiest way.
 Quoting:


The following is not meant to be offensive: If you deeply care about a friend or a group in the hands of what some call a cult then why would you leave this group in the hands of someone you consider to be a thread? Wouldn't it make sense to stay in there and gain information and at the same time work on another front? be near your enemy - ok this word is not so good but you get my point.

Don't feel bad or sorrow about your friends, everybody has to go their way - free will. You did nothing wrong, instead you did what you thought is the right thing to do and this can never be wrong from your perspective.
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I have mentioned many times before what brought me into `debunking' and frankly- I believe nancy should be locked away for the rest of her years- never to be released- because I truly BELIEVE that she is directly responsible for at least one death of a person I knew- she knowingly and directly caused the probable death of someone I knew personally
(probable death as he hasnt been heard of in over a half decade and is unlikely to suddenly `reappear')

So tell me again ZETATARD (and thats probably quite an insult to retarded people- who normally have some functioning braincells- unlike a zetatard like you)

why I shouldnt feel sorrow or bad about a person who threw away their wife, family, job and ended up as a street bum before finally disappearing (probably died) BECAUSE of nancy LIEders LIES????


REAL `STO' OR `SPIRITUAL' OF YOU...






fuckin wanker brain dead zetatard


(please feel free to report this post- please feel free to show why it is in anyway inaccurate at the same time...)


After all- its just my `free will' talking....
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After all- its just my `free will' talking....
 Quoting: aussie 763624 15883806


Absoluteley. I am glad you're back and I am thankful for all your comments you made so far. There is no need to report anything.
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The Zetas absolutely don't know everything,
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It has yet to be demonstrated that "Zetas" know ANYTHING!
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


PMSL


how true.... how true....


( I still have this vision in my mind- the best philosophers, the best physicists, the best mathematicians that the zetas have to offer all standing around this one outcast little grey guy- holding a single apple in his hand and trying desperately to impart to his fellow zetians the following lesson....)

`I hold in my hand an apple!!!!'

`yes...'


`I eat the apple...'

`yes...'




`How many apples do I hold in my hand????'


(A babble (a zetababble if you please) of sound...


TEN!!

FIVE!!

INFINITY!!

THE APPLE IS STILL THERE, YOU JUST CANT SEE OR FEEL IT!!!

THE DARK APPLE HIT THE APPLE AND THEY BOTH DISAPPEARED!!

42!!!!!
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"What if a rogue planet swept through the solar system, altering Earth's orbit? Potentially, the death of all life on the planet, according to a new Weather Channel special."

[link to news.yahoo.com]

!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
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Sigh. The only head you clipped was Nancy's.

The article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.' From your OWN link:

"Forecasting the End," a new Weather Channel series, premieres March 21, exploring the possible results of a rogue planet fly-by. Rogue planets, or planets not linked to stars, may outnumber actual stars in the Milky Way galaxy. Myths about "Planet X" or "Nibiru" hold that a stealth rogue planet is headed this way (actually, it was supposed to hit on the Mayan apocalypse on Dec. 21, 2012).

In fact, the likelihood of a rogue planet swinging by is slim. Astronomers have yet to find any evidence that any of the planets in our own solar system are captured rogues. And the average space between rogue planets and other bodies in our galaxy is quite expansive, Bad Astronomy blogger Phil Plait has calculated. In other words, a collision isn't likely.

The first episode of "Forecasting the End" focuses on what might happen in this very unlikely scenario. Potentially, scientists say, a planet passing by could alter the orbits of the planets in the solar system, making Earth's orbit more elliptical.

A more elliptical orbit would be bad news for life. Earth orbits in a relatively thin habitable zone around the sun, which allows for temperatures where water can be a solid, liquid or gas.

This more elliptical orbit might not push Earth out of this zone, but could bring the planet close enough to the sun to create short, extremely intense summers and then far enough away for very long winters. This would create a shorter growing period and mass food shortages, even human extinction.

"Life on Earth is very much dependent on the orbit we are in around the sun," said David Bennett, a University of Notre Dame astrophysicist.
 Quoting: Weather Channel


You forgot that little tidbit because...?

And television over-sensationalizing unlikely or even impossible events? Whatever will they think of next?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
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74444 being correct in saying that the article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.'.AC 3663979 - Doublecheck the topic change which is now [link to poleshift.ning.com] -> Weather Channel Depicts Planet X/Passage (NEW ZetaTalk).

No "pole shift" in report but only in Nancy's topic, now changed. The new Zetatalk contains not the word "pole shift" either.

You simply took what she offered. Wrong approach, imo.
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"What if a rogue planet swept through the solar system, altering Earth's orbit? Potentially, the death of all life on the planet, according to a new Weather Channel special."

[link to news.yahoo.com]

!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
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Sigh. The only head you clipped was Nancy's.

The article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.' From your OWN link:

"Forecasting the End," a new Weather Channel series, premieres March 21, exploring the possible results of a rogue planet fly-by. Rogue planets, or planets not linked to stars, may outnumber actual stars in the Milky Way galaxy. Myths about "Planet X" or "Nibiru" hold that a stealth rogue planet is headed this way (actually, it was supposed to hit on the Mayan apocalypse on Dec. 21, 2012).

In fact, the likelihood of a rogue planet swinging by is slim. Astronomers have yet to find any evidence that any of the planets in our own solar system are captured rogues. And the average space between rogue planets and other bodies in our galaxy is quite expansive, Bad Astronomy blogger Phil Plait has calculated. In other words, a collision isn't likely.

The first episode of "Forecasting the End" focuses on what might happen in this very unlikely scenario. Potentially, scientists say, a planet passing by could alter the orbits of the planets in the solar system, making Earth's orbit more elliptical.

A more elliptical orbit would be bad news for life. Earth orbits in a relatively thin habitable zone around the sun, which allows for temperatures where water can be a solid, liquid or gas.

This more elliptical orbit might not push Earth out of this zone, but could bring the planet close enough to the sun to create short, extremely intense summers and then far enough away for very long winters. This would create a shorter growing period and mass food shortages, even human extinction.

"Life on Earth is very much dependent on the orbit we are in around the sun," said David Bennett, a University of Notre Dame astrophysicist.
 Quoting: Weather Channel


You forgot that little tidbit because...?

And television over-sensationalizing unlikely or even impossible events? Whatever will they think of next?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


74444 being correct in saying that the article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.'.AC 3663979 - Doublecheck the topic change which is now [link to poleshift.ning.com] -> Weather Channel Depicts Planet X/Passage (NEW ZetaTalk).

No "pole shift" in report but only in Nancy's topic, now changed. The new Zetatalk contains not the word "pole shift" either.

You simply took what she offered. Wrong approach, imo.
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Correction: there is Zetatalk containing the word Pole Shift on this site at the end.
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74444 being correct in saying that the article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.'.AC 3663979 - Doublecheck the topic change which is now [link to poleshift.ning.com] -> Weather Channel Depicts Planet X/Passage (NEW ZetaTalk).

No "pole shift" in report but only in Nancy's topic, now changed. The new Zetatalk contains not the word "pole shift" either.

You simply took what she offered. Wrong approach, imo.
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OMFG!!!

nancy `changed' the infallible `words' of the zetas!!!


tell me it isnt so....


now nancy about that 100% accurate zetatalk you seem so fond of quoting...

why do you need to change your zetababble headlines so quickly- usually quite soon after their mistakes are made in this thread- this thread that annessss keeps telling us all the zetatards are banned from???

(or is that another `white lie' from the zetas???)
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All right. I am trying to answer it and hope that I find the right words. My answer is that I don't know it, honestly I have absolutely no idea if that really happened or not and I am completely unable to speak with you about the subject because when I've read about it some time ago I filtered it out, so to say. I took it into consideration, found that it would take to much time to understand and dropped it so it wouldn't distract me from what I'm really trying to gain.

This does NOT mean I am running away from it, I just filtered it out to be of any importance to me after having read about it, true or not true - I cannot evaluate. I don't care, hence I don't follow this "Moon was halted in its orbit or not" thing because there is no spiritual outcome for me.

As an example: I also filter out what is said to be Nancy Talk. It is my understanding that she as a human is erroneous in some things and in others not.

Also I filter out what Ann s. says sometimes, because I consider it as unnecessary to call a person she does not know personally to be a payed shill. She simply answeres the emotional call on her with a negative emotion -
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


How can you filter out such basic knowledge of our own planet and the solar system when the entire premise of zetatalk is based on the supposed existence of planet x in our solar system? Look dude, it's not rocket science. My grandchildren learned enough in grade 5 to see how ridiculous Nancy's ideas are! If Nancy doesn't know even this much about astronomy and our solar system, why would you waste time on any of the bullshit found at Nancy's place.
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How can you filter out such basic knowledge of our own planet and the solar system when the entire premise of zetatalk is based on the supposed existence of planet x in our solar system? Look dude, it's not rocket science. My grandchildren learned enough in grade 5 to see how ridiculous Nancy's ideas are! If Nancy doesn't know even this much about astronomy and our solar system, why would you waste time on any of the bullshit found at Nancy's place.
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Not true. You surely haven't read zetatalk and just proved it.
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Zetatard wrong again. Yes, I have read enough to know what the basic ideas are:

Aliens contact Nancy through an unwrapped candy in a cinema and tell her about an imminent passage of planet x which will cause a pole shift in 2003. Oops, 2004, oops white lie time, it will happen soon, 2012 is too far out. I know enough about zt to know that she has never gotten one single thing right, that she had to finally admit here on GLP that she didn't know squat about astronomy, thinking RA means right angle and that alt and azimuth are the same as RA and declination. I know that she mistook a kite for a moonswirl, that she was wrong about Indonesia being underwater, wrong about rivers in Australia running backwards, wrong about the straits of Gibralter suddenly becoming wider by miles, wrong about the Christmas Hammer which was supposed to have ruined our last Christmas 5 or 6 years ago, wrong about Hale Bopp being a fake, wrong about the Venus transit not happening, wrong about the earth being stalled in orbit, and I have been around long enough to know that she is one nasty bitch. I can't believe people still listen to anything she says after all of her fails and her lies. Try again, AC.

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