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"What if a rogue planet swept through the solar system, altering Earth's orbit? Potentially, the death of all life on the planet, according to a new Weather Channel special."

[link to news.yahoo.com]

!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36639796


BOOM...oops a miss!

No where in that article is there a mention of a pole shift. It just talks about a rogue planet.
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Zetababble....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Herewith, you're officially ignored due to redundant shilling and evading questions.
Come back when you got some arguments.

Trying to get a handle on all of the distinct objects that they claim are currently in our solar system about to destroy Earth. So far, I think I've got:
- Nibiru
- Brown Dwarf
- Dark Twin

Which others are there?
 Quoting: phoomp


Thats pretty much it... although Nib is the supposed brown dwarf.
It seems all of these creations have their own "physics" as kinetic, thermodynamics etc doesn't apply to any of these.

Like, pX is supposed to have 23 x the mass of earth, yet it has no influence on any nearby planets...

I figured out you have to eventually multiply every equation with zero... then you have the (non)-influence of these objects or ZetaTalk in general and then it is consistent.

0 x something = 0
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Now you haven't been following nancy LIEders zetababble now have you???

It's a well known (zeta) FACT that there is no such thing as zero- hence your earthly mathematics bear no resemblance to the universe as the zetas know it


(that particular has been used before- not to make fun of you or anything- but when it comes to being original at anything- well the zetas kinda suck at it LOL)

(what they did when they had one apple and it was taken away from them- leaving them `how many' apples- continues to baffle, bemuse and bewilder the finest zeta minds to this day....)

;-)
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ZetaTalk: The Insecure
written Dec 5, 2004

Debunkers, under the guise of presenting truth seem to really fear
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

(laugh at)
Nancy, given all the time and energy
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

(a 5 to 10 minute a day laughfest normally- tonight is likely to be a comedy festival I suspect)
they spend on her and her ideas be they flawed or nay
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

(her ideas arent the problem- its her facts that seem to be rather fatally flawed)
Is it the message, or her perceived insanity they fear?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

(both as they have hurt people emotionally, financially and even fatally- a rather good reason to expose her insanity and its `message' for what it is I personally feel- STO may feel this is rather `beneath' their vaulted calling)

A logical person knows if a person is a crackpot and posting on the internet, you ignore them and they go away. When you fight, piss and moan, all you do is give them more credence in the eyes of those who believe and in the eyes of many on the fence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

(according to nancy LIEder- the number of fence sitters and believers continues to diminish however- sux to be a zetatard dosnt it)
Beyond the professional debunker, whose full or part time job is to haunt message boards or web sites in search of people discussing what the establishment wants to deny at present
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

(to date not one of these has even been proven to exist- a bit like planet x LOL)
there are those so in the grip of fear and insecurity that they attack the message for no other reason
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091

(can you show one of these as well- as most seem to `attack' the message on the basis that its a totally made up lie by a want to be cult mistress that thought it would make her millions)
The message is, in short, unthinkable. Life, for humans on Earth, is highly insecure in the best of times. Even with the best that modern medicine can provide, most illness is not curable and palliative measure only provided. Lightning can strike anytime, any place, and neither prayers or bribes make a difference. Meteors and fireballs from the sky are erratic, and despite man’s best efforts at prediction earthquakes strike without warning, dropping buildings and bridges. Then there are all the reassurances from employers and governments and insurers that pension funds, savings, home ownership and assets, all are solidly there and will be replaced should any event remove them. Yet employers go bankrupt, governments go bankrupt and change their rules or default on their promises, and insurance companies default. Loyalty from friends and family also cannot be relied upon solidly, as the divorce rate and domestic violence statistics show. Friends are supportive only while this friendship aligns with their life circumstances, and the friendship dropped when it becomes inconvenient. Thus, despite man’s best efforts to make himself secure, he is, in essence, standing naked in the cold rain, alone.
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This bit is what truly bewilders me personally- how f....d up is the people who find the below a more attractive option- considering that we all `know' that the zetas have the ability to move planets around- but they wont- so the zeta babble followers are more excited by the description below than to find an alternative- ANY alternative to what they want to happen to all the `rest' of the people on the planet...

just how screwed up in the head ARE these people???
Enter Planet X and the ZetaTalk message that the world will turn upside down, experience earthquakes that will shatter cities everywhere, roll flood tides inland for hundreds of miles along coastlines everywhere, explode industrial complexes into a cesspool of chemical pollution, destroy the communication and transportation networks so that travel is on foot or impossible, remove the convenience of electricity and clean water supplied to the home and replace this with long dark nights and drinking water smelling like the neighbors sewage, suddenly stop the delivery of food stuffs to the local store with no replacement so that rats and weeds and rotting corpses become the only food available. For many, especially those in cities or whose lifestyle by choice or necessity has made them soft and dependent, this is what the message means. Unthinkable. There are no options that come readily to mind, for these individuals.

... more at link
Source: [link to www.zetatalk.com]
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(snip bullshit post)

Whatever one may believe regarding the source of the Messages from the Zetas through Nancy, the contents are so new to us and revolutionary, yet so compelling by their logic and sublime simplicity, that a serious study of them must be undertaken in order to comprehend their significance and challenge.
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unfortunately they are neither new nor revolutionary (in this thread alone there are many examples of nancy ripping off ideas from prior `prophets'...

and to say there is `logic' in anything coming from nancy LIEder or zetababble beggars belief- the word logic and zeta crap have never crossed paths LOL

many `serious studies' have been done(in this thread and others)- all which have found no significance or challenge in any zeta babblings


I go away for a few days and this comedy awaits me- no wonder I keep coming back- zetatards continue to amaze, baffle and confuse- and there's still another couple of pages to go!!


comedy gold- why pay for the comedy channel when you can watch a zetatard do amazing contortions of truth and logic in an attempt to continue their cult beliefs???
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Zetatalk, or let's say the Zetas, are what you say are talking bollox
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


The earth is not halted in its orbit, the moon is not being knocked around by forces from planet X, and the earth's axis is still pointing right where it should, not wobbling around wildly to "simulate the seasons." The zetas are talking bollox. Do you get it? Do you even understand? The fundamental beliefs of your cult are false.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Your comment just disqualified you completely to speak about the subject.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


ROTFPMSL

really??

really??????

I mean WTF???

You really CANT find this kind of decent comedy on any tv show....

(This HAS to be a wind up- really-no person could believe this type of crap and still be able to operate a keyboard- god I have seen more logical arguments coming out of a six month old baby- and it was just as smelly coming out of that baby as it was coming from 36382091)

COMEDY GOLD LOL
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I think a barrier to a certain degree is not only plausibel but necessary to survive.

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but (to quote another poster elsewhere)- dont open your mind so far your brains fall out...


True. But thats exactly what I worry about.

I know how deep some are into it, and even if it is their choices, Im frightened how to get them out of it without subsequent damage to them.

I say this because I've experienced how it feels to have your entire belief turned up-side-down in a brink.
It took me a few days to contemplate everything..like defragmenting your harddrive.

Not expecting an answer here, just thinking how to approach in the healthiest way.
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The following is not meant to be offensive: If you deeply care about a friend or a group in the hands of what some call a cult then why would you leave this group in the hands of someone you consider to be a thread? Wouldn't it make sense to stay in there and gain information and at the same time work on another front? be near your enemy - ok this word is not so good but you get my point.

Don't feel bad or sorrow about your friends, everybody has to go their way - free will. You did nothing wrong, instead you did what you thought is the right thing to do and this can never be wrong from your perspective.
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I have mentioned many times before what brought me into `debunking' and frankly- I believe nancy should be locked away for the rest of her years- never to be released- because I truly BELIEVE that she is directly responsible for at least one death of a person I knew- she knowingly and directly caused the probable death of someone I knew personally
(probable death as he hasnt been heard of in over a half decade and is unlikely to suddenly `reappear')

So tell me again ZETATARD (and thats probably quite an insult to retarded people- who normally have some functioning braincells- unlike a zetatard like you)

why I shouldnt feel sorrow or bad about a person who threw away their wife, family, job and ended up as a street bum before finally disappearing (probably died) BECAUSE of nancy LIEders LIES????


REAL `STO' OR `SPIRITUAL' OF YOU...






fuckin wanker brain dead zetatard


(please feel free to report this post- please feel free to show why it is in anyway inaccurate at the same time...)


After all- its just my `free will' talking....
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BOOM...oops a miss!

No where in that article is there a mention of a pole shift. It just talks about a rogue planet.
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Which doesn't mean it exists either. So they missed twice.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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I think a barrier to a certain degree is not only plausibel but necessary to survive.

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but (to quote another poster elsewhere)- dont open your mind so far your brains fall out...


True. But thats exactly what I worry about.

I know how deep some are into it, and even if it is their choices, Im frightened how to get them out of it without subsequent damage to them.

I say this because I've experienced how it feels to have your entire belief turned up-side-down in a brink.
It took me a few days to contemplate everything..like defragmenting your harddrive.

Not expecting an answer here, just thinking how to approach in the healthiest way.
 Quoting:


The following is not meant to be offensive: If you deeply care about a friend or a group in the hands of what some call a cult then why would you leave this group in the hands of someone you consider to be a thread? Wouldn't it make sense to stay in there and gain information and at the same time work on another front? be near your enemy - ok this word is not so good but you get my point.

Don't feel bad or sorrow about your friends, everybody has to go their way - free will. You did nothing wrong, instead you did what you thought is the right thing to do and this can never be wrong from your perspective.
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I have mentioned many times before what brought me into `debunking' and frankly- I believe nancy should be locked away for the rest of her years- never to be released- because I truly BELIEVE that she is directly responsible for at least one death of a person I knew- she knowingly and directly caused the probable death of someone I knew personally
(probable death as he hasnt been heard of in over a half decade and is unlikely to suddenly `reappear')

So tell me again ZETATARD (and thats probably quite an insult to retarded people- who normally have some functioning braincells- unlike a zetatard like you)

why I shouldnt feel sorrow or bad about a person who threw away their wife, family, job and ended up as a street bum before finally disappearing (probably died) BECAUSE of nancy LIEders LIES????


REAL `STO' OR `SPIRITUAL' OF YOU...






fuckin wanker brain dead zetatard


(please feel free to report this post- please feel free to show why it is in anyway inaccurate at the same time...)


After all- its just my `free will' talking....
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After all- its just my `free will' talking....
 Quoting: aussie 763624 15883806


Absoluteley. I am glad you're back and I am thankful for all your comments you made so far. There is no need to report anything.
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The Zetas absolutely don't know everything,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


It has yet to be demonstrated that "Zetas" know ANYTHING!
 Quoting: Menow 36608702


PMSL


how true.... how true....


( I still have this vision in my mind- the best philosophers, the best physicists, the best mathematicians that the zetas have to offer all standing around this one outcast little grey guy- holding a single apple in his hand and trying desperately to impart to his fellow zetians the following lesson....)

`I hold in my hand an apple!!!!'

`yes...'


`I eat the apple...'

`yes...'




`How many apples do I hold in my hand????'


(A babble (a zetababble if you please) of sound...


TEN!!

FIVE!!

INFINITY!!

THE APPLE IS STILL THERE, YOU JUST CANT SEE OR FEEL IT!!!

THE DARK APPLE HIT THE APPLE AND THEY BOTH DISAPPEARED!!

42!!!!!
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"What if a rogue planet swept through the solar system, altering Earth's orbit? Potentially, the death of all life on the planet, according to a new Weather Channel special."

[link to news.yahoo.com]

!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36639796


Sigh. The only head you clipped was Nancy's.

The article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.' From your OWN link:

"Forecasting the End," a new Weather Channel series, premieres March 21, exploring the possible results of a rogue planet fly-by. Rogue planets, or planets not linked to stars, may outnumber actual stars in the Milky Way galaxy. Myths about "Planet X" or "Nibiru" hold that a stealth rogue planet is headed this way (actually, it was supposed to hit on the Mayan apocalypse on Dec. 21, 2012).

In fact, the likelihood of a rogue planet swinging by is slim. Astronomers have yet to find any evidence that any of the planets in our own solar system are captured rogues. And the average space between rogue planets and other bodies in our galaxy is quite expansive, Bad Astronomy blogger Phil Plait has calculated. In other words, a collision isn't likely.

The first episode of "Forecasting the End" focuses on what might happen in this very unlikely scenario. Potentially, scientists say, a planet passing by could alter the orbits of the planets in the solar system, making Earth's orbit more elliptical.

A more elliptical orbit would be bad news for life. Earth orbits in a relatively thin habitable zone around the sun, which allows for temperatures where water can be a solid, liquid or gas.

This more elliptical orbit might not push Earth out of this zone, but could bring the planet close enough to the sun to create short, extremely intense summers and then far enough away for very long winters. This would create a shorter growing period and mass food shortages, even human extinction.

"Life on Earth is very much dependent on the orbit we are in around the sun," said David Bennett, a University of Notre Dame astrophysicist.
 Quoting: Weather Channel


You forgot that little tidbit because...?

And television over-sensationalizing unlikely or even impossible events? Whatever will they think of next?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


74444 being correct in saying that the article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.'.AC 3663979 - Doublecheck the topic change which is now [link to poleshift.ning.com] -> Weather Channel Depicts Planet X/Passage (NEW ZetaTalk).

No "pole shift" in report but only in Nancy's topic, now changed. The new Zetatalk contains not the word "pole shift" either.

You simply took what she offered. Wrong approach, imo.
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"What if a rogue planet swept through the solar system, altering Earth's orbit? Potentially, the death of all life on the planet, according to a new Weather Channel special."

[link to news.yahoo.com]

!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36639796


Sigh. The only head you clipped was Nancy's.

The article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.' From your OWN link:

"Forecasting the End," a new Weather Channel series, premieres March 21, exploring the possible results of a rogue planet fly-by. Rogue planets, or planets not linked to stars, may outnumber actual stars in the Milky Way galaxy. Myths about "Planet X" or "Nibiru" hold that a stealth rogue planet is headed this way (actually, it was supposed to hit on the Mayan apocalypse on Dec. 21, 2012).

In fact, the likelihood of a rogue planet swinging by is slim. Astronomers have yet to find any evidence that any of the planets in our own solar system are captured rogues. And the average space between rogue planets and other bodies in our galaxy is quite expansive, Bad Astronomy blogger Phil Plait has calculated. In other words, a collision isn't likely.

The first episode of "Forecasting the End" focuses on what might happen in this very unlikely scenario. Potentially, scientists say, a planet passing by could alter the orbits of the planets in the solar system, making Earth's orbit more elliptical.

A more elliptical orbit would be bad news for life. Earth orbits in a relatively thin habitable zone around the sun, which allows for temperatures where water can be a solid, liquid or gas.

This more elliptical orbit might not push Earth out of this zone, but could bring the planet close enough to the sun to create short, extremely intense summers and then far enough away for very long winters. This would create a shorter growing period and mass food shortages, even human extinction.

"Life on Earth is very much dependent on the orbit we are in around the sun," said David Bennett, a University of Notre Dame astrophysicist.
 Quoting: Weather Channel


You forgot that little tidbit because...?

And television over-sensationalizing unlikely or even impossible events? Whatever will they think of next?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


74444 being correct in saying that the article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.'.AC 3663979 - Doublecheck the topic change which is now [link to poleshift.ning.com] -> Weather Channel Depicts Planet X/Passage (NEW ZetaTalk).

No "pole shift" in report but only in Nancy's topic, now changed. The new Zetatalk contains not the word "pole shift" either.

You simply took what she offered. Wrong approach, imo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Correction: there is Zetatalk containing the word Pole Shift on this site at the end.
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74444 being correct in saying that the article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.'.AC 3663979 - Doublecheck the topic change which is now [link to poleshift.ning.com] -> Weather Channel Depicts Planet X/Passage (NEW ZetaTalk).

No "pole shift" in report but only in Nancy's topic, now changed. The new Zetatalk contains not the word "pole shift" either.

You simply took what she offered. Wrong approach, imo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


OMFG!!!

nancy `changed' the infallible `words' of the zetas!!!


tell me it isnt so....


now nancy about that 100% accurate zetatalk you seem so fond of quoting...

why do you need to change your zetababble headlines so quickly- usually quite soon after their mistakes are made in this thread- this thread that annessss keeps telling us all the zetatards are banned from???

(or is that another `white lie' from the zetas???)
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All right. I am trying to answer it and hope that I find the right words. My answer is that I don't know it, honestly I have absolutely no idea if that really happened or not and I am completely unable to speak with you about the subject because when I've read about it some time ago I filtered it out, so to say. I took it into consideration, found that it would take to much time to understand and dropped it so it wouldn't distract me from what I'm really trying to gain.

This does NOT mean I am running away from it, I just filtered it out to be of any importance to me after having read about it, true or not true - I cannot evaluate. I don't care, hence I don't follow this "Moon was halted in its orbit or not" thing because there is no spiritual outcome for me.

As an example: I also filter out what is said to be Nancy Talk. It is my understanding that she as a human is erroneous in some things and in others not.

Also I filter out what Ann s. says sometimes, because I consider it as unnecessary to call a person she does not know personally to be a payed shill. She simply answeres the emotional call on her with a negative emotion -
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


How can you filter out such basic knowledge of our own planet and the solar system when the entire premise of zetatalk is based on the supposed existence of planet x in our solar system? Look dude, it's not rocket science. My grandchildren learned enough in grade 5 to see how ridiculous Nancy's ideas are! If Nancy doesn't know even this much about astronomy and our solar system, why would you waste time on any of the bullshit found at Nancy's place.
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How can you filter out such basic knowledge of our own planet and the solar system when the entire premise of zetatalk is based on the supposed existence of planet x in our solar system? Look dude, it's not rocket science. My grandchildren learned enough in grade 5 to see how ridiculous Nancy's ideas are! If Nancy doesn't know even this much about astronomy and our solar system, why would you waste time on any of the bullshit found at Nancy's place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10422385


Not true. You surely haven't read zetatalk and just proved it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Zetatard wrong again. Yes, I have read enough to know what the basic ideas are:

Aliens contact Nancy through an unwrapped candy in a cinema and tell her about an imminent passage of planet x which will cause a pole shift in 2003. Oops, 2004, oops white lie time, it will happen soon, 2012 is too far out. I know enough about zt to know that she has never gotten one single thing right, that she had to finally admit here on GLP that she didn't know squat about astronomy, thinking RA means right angle and that alt and azimuth are the same as RA and declination. I know that she mistook a kite for a moonswirl, that she was wrong about Indonesia being underwater, wrong about rivers in Australia running backwards, wrong about the straits of Gibralter suddenly becoming wider by miles, wrong about the Christmas Hammer which was supposed to have ruined our last Christmas 5 or 6 years ago, wrong about Hale Bopp being a fake, wrong about the Venus transit not happening, wrong about the earth being stalled in orbit, and I have been around long enough to know that she is one nasty bitch. I can't believe people still listen to anything she says after all of her fails and her lies. Try again, AC.
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"What if a rogue planet swept through the solar system, altering Earth's orbit? Potentially, the death of all life on the planet, according to a new Weather Channel special."

[link to news.yahoo.com]

!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36639796


Sigh. The only head you clipped was Nancy's.

The article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.' From your OWN link:

"Forecasting the End," a new Weather Channel series, premieres March 21, exploring the possible results of a rogue planet fly-by. Rogue planets, or planets not linked to stars, may outnumber actual stars in the Milky Way galaxy. Myths about "Planet X" or "Nibiru" hold that a stealth rogue planet is headed this way (actually, it was supposed to hit on the Mayan apocalypse on Dec. 21, 2012).

In fact, the likelihood of a rogue planet swinging by is slim. Astronomers have yet to find any evidence that any of the planets in our own solar system are captured rogues. And the average space between rogue planets and other bodies in our galaxy is quite expansive, Bad Astronomy blogger Phil Plait has calculated. In other words, a collision isn't likely.

The first episode of "Forecasting the End" focuses on what might happen in this very unlikely scenario. Potentially, scientists say, a planet passing by could alter the orbits of the planets in the solar system, making Earth's orbit more elliptical.

A more elliptical orbit would be bad news for life. Earth orbits in a relatively thin habitable zone around the sun, which allows for temperatures where water can be a solid, liquid or gas.

This more elliptical orbit might not push Earth out of this zone, but could bring the planet close enough to the sun to create short, extremely intense summers and then far enough away for very long winters. This would create a shorter growing period and mass food shortages, even human extinction.

"Life on Earth is very much dependent on the orbit we are in around the sun," said David Bennett, a University of Notre Dame astrophysicist.
 Quoting: Weather Channel


You forgot that little tidbit because...?

And television over-sensationalizing unlikely or even impossible events? Whatever will they think of next?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


!!!A POLE SHIFT IS NOT TOO UNSUBSTANTIAL FOR THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA!!!

BOOM HEAD SHOT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444


74444 being correct in saying that the article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.'.AC 3663979 - Doublecheck the topic change which is now [link to poleshift.ning.com] -> Weather Channel Depicts Planet X/Passage (NEW ZetaTalk).

No "pole shift" in report but only in Nancy's topic, now changed. The new Zetatalk contains not the word "pole shift" either.

You simply took what she offered. Wrong approach, imo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


Correction: there is Zetatalk containing the word Pole Shift on this site at the end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


ANSWER THE QUESTION ASKED!!!!

not the question you wished they asked...

typical deflection tactics by a cultist
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74444 being correct in saying that the article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.'.AC 3663979 - Doublecheck the topic change which is now [link to poleshift.ning.com] -> Weather Channel Depicts Planet X/Passage (NEW ZetaTalk).

No "pole shift" in report but only in Nancy's topic, now changed. The new Zetatalk contains not the word "pole shift" either.

You simply took what she offered. Wrong approach, imo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36382091


OMFG!!!

nancy `changed' the infallible `words' of the zetas!!!


tell me it isnt so....


now nancy about that 100% accurate zetatalk you seem so fond of quoting...

why do you need to change your zetababble headlines so quickly- usually quite soon after their mistakes are made in this thread- this thread that annessss keeps telling us all the zetatards are banned from???

(or is that another `white lie' from the zetas???)
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No. Nancy wrote the original topic by herself, including the word Pole shift and saying that the movie or article depicts a poleshift. Now that Zetatalk is in the article the topic has been changed to no more containing the word Pole Shift in the topic because wether the movie nor the article or whatever is yet directly using this word. The New Zetatalk builds a bridge to the video / arcticle description in point out that this is related to what they prognosed -> a Pole Shift
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and now we see the mixed up quote thing happening...
if idw/ aa was here he would be saying that it was `PROOF' that nasa/the illuminate the jews etc etc were modifying the threads, except when it was happening to his opponents- in which case- he took the sargent shultz defense

speaking of more interesting things- hows idw going these days, I lost his thread up until a few hours ago- he was in meltdown mode then with several pages left

He seems to be loosing steam- I cant find anything that looks idwish in google at all in the last few weeks
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All right. I am trying to answer it and hope that I find the right words. My answer is that I don't know it, honestly I have absolutely no idea if that really happened or not and I am completely unable to speak with you about the subject because when I've read about it some time ago I filtered it out, so to say. I took it into consideration, found that it would take to much time to understand and dropped it so it wouldn't distract me from what I'm really trying to gain.

This does NOT mean I am running away from it, I just filtered it out to be of any importance to me after having read about it, true or not true - I cannot evaluate. I don't care, hence I don't follow this "Moon was halted in its orbit or not" thing because there is no spiritual outcome for me.

As an example: I also filter out what is said to be Nancy Talk. It is my understanding that she as a human is erroneous in some things and in others not.

Also I filter out what Ann s. says sometimes, because I consider it as unnecessary to call a person she does not know personally to be a payed shill. She simply answeres the emotional call on her with a negative emotion -
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How can you filter out such basic knowledge of our own planet and the solar system when the entire premise of zetatalk is based on the supposed existence of planet x in our solar system? Look dude, it's not rocket science. My grandchildren learned enough in grade 5 to see how ridiculous Nancy's ideas are! If Nancy doesn't know even this much about astronomy and our solar system, why would you waste time on any of the bullshit found at Nancy's place.
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How can you filter out such basic knowledge of our own planet and the solar system when the entire premise of zetatalk is based on the supposed existence of planet x in our solar system? Look dude, it's not rocket science. My grandchildren learned enough in grade 5 to see how ridiculous Nancy's ideas are! If Nancy doesn't know even this much about astronomy and our solar system, why would you waste time on any of the bullshit found at Nancy's place.
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Not true. You surely haven't read zetatalk and just proved it.
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Zetatard wrong again. Yes, I have read enough to know what the basic ideas are:

Aliens contact Nancy through an unwrapped candy in a cinema and tell her about an imminent passage of planet x which will cause a pole shift in 2003. Oops, 2004, oops white lie time, it will happen soon, 2012 is too far out. I know enough about zt to know that she has never gotten one single thing right, that she had to finally admit here on GLP that she didn't know squat about astronomy, thinking RA means right angle and that alt and azimuth are the same as RA and declination. I know that she mistook a kite for a moonswirl, that she was wrong about Indonesia being underwater, wrong about rivers in Australia running backwards, wrong about the straits of Gibralter suddenly becoming wider by miles, wrong about the Christmas Hammer which was supposed to have ruined our last Christmas 5 or 6 years ago, wrong about Hale Bopp being a fake, wrong about the Venus transit not happening, wrong about the earth being stalled in orbit, and I have been around long enough to know that she is one nasty bitch. I can't believe people still listen to anything she says after all of her fails and her lies. Try again, AC.
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Try again, AC.
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There is no need to try again. You already understood your false assumptions. In fact it is an ongoing process for both of us.
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not bothered quoting more zetatard b/s
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whatever...

you are more ineffectual as a zetatroll than elle

standard crud we all seen a thousand times before in various names.... right nancy?


cant even be bothered anymore- your kungpoo is weak dungbeetle
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There is no need to try again. I already understood your true assumptions. In fact it is an ongoing process for one of us.
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fixed that for ya

what I would like to know is not your `assumptions' of what we know- but your actual `knowledge'

stop dancing around like an ineffectual clown- stand up and say what in zetatalk you believe is true- and how did you check its `truth'


so far all we know of you is that you believe its all `true'- apart from the bits that aren't- or maybe they are and the other bits aren't either way- you crow `I'm right'


pretty much like every other zetatard and its close brother troll we have ever seen...

A bit more wordy- but the sum value of the extra verbiage is a null value in sense of adding veracity to the ongoing fable that consists of zetababble, adding nothing to its ongoing claims of accuracy and indeed only detracting from its basic claims of infallible accuracy regarding predictions of humanities evolutionary path and its various possible temporal permutations, and your interpretations of the metaphysical aspects of those permutations and their inclusions in your physical, metaphysical and spiritual aspects adds only to a possible increase of the knowledge states that consists only of the mathematical number of alternate states expressed already thus the spiritual entity currently engaging in verbiage that has a physical but not necessarily a metaphysical presence with the increasing likelihood of the oppositional viewpoint being decreasingly unlikely.
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I`m just laughing out loud. This is either Poleshit-Poli or Katche. Both are disenchanted and deranged men willing to live their life for the cult. The problem is that nobody is interested anymore in the cult. The 21.12.2012 was more or less the end of it. Nancy tried to abuse this wave for her dirty purposes. The cult is soon going to vanish: no more members and only a few zealots are left.

Now they are trying typical cult strategies to disturb the serious discussion here. They never answer a real question or are trying to distract the good-hearted people from the original topic. Poleshit-Poli for example has no astronomic knowledge at all. He is the first to congratulate Flareberto for his latest lenseflare nonsense. We are talking about cult addicts here who can`t accept the truth that their mistress and cult master, Nancy Liar, is making full blown nuts out of them.

First they will try to act as zetaspambots. You ask them a question and they just answer with some old hoaxes from Nancy. They try to ignore the questions you ask them and respond with some old Zetababble. Poleshit-Poli for example always just uses copy and paste for it as his English is very bad. He is what normal people call a real raving lunatic. And they are desperate because their Ning is going to vanish.

No announcement, no Nobeeryou and a stolen religious cult concept made up by Nancy!! I think it is the job of the moderators here to keep an eye on these creepy culttards.

They did not only attack GLP but also bash Trinity. And of course they try to avoid a serious discussion. A typical cult strategy is to deflect the topic or pretend being stupid. And this is not difficult for Poleshit-Poli as he is a real jackass. They just have to act as they always do. Another strategy is to start quote-attacks. They will just quote every long text and answer with one to three stupid sentences which have nothing to do with the topic. It often ends in a kind of religious cult lament. Every normal person who is not a member of such a cult can clearly see the pattern which they use. They are brainwashed and nobody in their holy cult is allowed to ask a critical question. So they hate a thread like this one and try all their dirty little cult-strategies,- the last weapons of brainwashed individuals. Every normal person can clearly detect what they are trying and using. For them it is a kind of religious act their cult mistress ordered them to do.

And if their Nanny tells them to act as Zetatrolls – because she is desperate too – they will see this as the ultimate goal in their life. They think the aliens will send them a lift for that to another level of consciousness. I think they underestimate every form of intelligent beings out there. If there were real aliens Nancy and her Zeta-Bullshit would be a kind of comedy show on this planets. Welcome to your daily pranks and hoaxes! People on earth must be really stupid! Every child can easily see that most of the claims of Nancy are pure bullshit. But cults convert people into little babies again. They stop thinking and accept everything the cult leader is babbling.

For example in this so called weather report nobody was talking about a poleshift. The topic was a “rogue planet” and a potential concept of it. The result was more or less that such planets exist and follow certain patterns, but that they are light years away from us. Nancy`s Nobeeryou is no “free or rogue” planet because it follows an orbit which is of course not possible. You can calculate such potential orbits with the system of celestial mechanics. So we are talking here about the possibility of some planets which are very far away. Nancy`s Nobeeryou/Nibiru would be right in front of our entry door and a daily target. We wouldn`t be here anymore if it was there. So the Ningtards are again abusing a topic which in real life contradicts their weird fantasies.

But for cult people such things don`t count. They want to live within the rules of their cult. And if Nancy tells them that the garden gnome next door is a Nibiru she will bring them to their knees and force them to adore it happily.

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The AC36382091 TrollTard is trying to imply that the spiritual aspect of Zetatalk is at the core. However, as several people have pointed out, that aspect is not lost on the debunkers, it's just that in reality that aspect is nothing new or revolutionary at all. The AC refuses to acknowledge this, of course.
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That is his strategy, Menow. He hates to talk about some solid facts as he knows that his cult will get lost in them.

Or do you remember that only one of Nancy`s predictions did come true? This guy is a cult addict and the cult is all what he has now. He refuses to accept reality. He lives in his own cult-world.

Do you think that Flareberto has ever discovered a real planet? No, and we all know that. The so called "red filter revolution" was another bad hoax of crazy Nancy. I think every little child with some basic knowledge can understand that.

Cult victims can`t understand that. You should not forget, Menow, that you are not talking with normal people here. Besides that he wants to spam and babble for his cult.

If you start a discussion with this tard about spiritual things - which were all invented by crazy Nancy - you will be playing his Spamgame. Confront him with the facts!
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and now we see the mixed up quote thing happening...
if idw/ aa was here he would be saying that it was `PROOF' that nasa/the illuminate the jews etc etc were modifying the threads, except when it was happening to his opponents- in which case- he took the sargent shultz defense

speaking of more interesting things- hows idw going these days, I lost his thread up until a few hours ago- he was in meltdown mode then with several pages left

He seems to be loosing steam- I cant find anything that looks idwish in google at all in the last few weeks
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He's been melting down in other places instead.

You can check out here:

Thread: Scientist confirms extinction event asteroid will NOT hit earth

He comes late to the thread. Still avoiding his earlier claims about the Moon moving unpredictably, though the Maya and Newton predicted the movements of the Moon... and with his supreme intellect doesn't see why that's contradictory.
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Let us see what he has to say! This tard is of course not normal.

Let us play a little game with him. Only the Zetas can help him...lol..or Nancy!

I will copy my last messages again and again...till he answers! In the end it is a sad story, because nobody close to Nancy has ever stayed normal....Just remember Gerard Zwaan or even Cheryl Nelson! The sad story of an internet cult!

Free Store? A running joke here!
Andrew Veresay, the child molestor, and Nancy`s right hand.
Did you know that Poleshit-Poli thinks that this Andrew Veresay is his big idol (role model)?

You see how crazy cults can be ...!

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74444 being correct in saying that the article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.'.AC 3663979 - Doublecheck the topic change which is now [link to poleshift.ning.com] -> Weather Channel Depicts Planet X/Passage (NEW ZetaTalk).

No "pole shift" in report but only in Nancy's topic, now changed. The new Zetatalk contains not the word "pole shift" either.

You simply took what she offered. Wrong approach, imo.
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I find it terribly amusing that an error I pointed out would cause the Zetas/Nancy to edit in such a way. Their supposed omniscience isn't looking very good right now.

Not that it ever does.
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74444 being correct in saying that the article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.'.AC 3663979 - Doublecheck the topic change which is now [link to poleshift.ning.com] -> Weather Channel Depicts Planet X/Passage (NEW ZetaTalk).

No "pole shift" in report but only in Nancy's topic, now changed. The new Zetatalk contains not the word "pole shift" either.

You simply took what she offered. Wrong approach, imo.
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I find it terribly amusing that an error I pointed out would cause the Zetas/Nancy to edit in such a way. Their supposed omniscience isn't looking very good right now.

Not that it ever does.
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Yeah... it's almost as good as when she changes actual published "Zetatalk" when we point out a screw up like with the Antarctic photos.
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If you start a discussion with this tard about spiritual things - which were all invented by crazy Nancy
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Need to correct that, as I think Menow wanted to point out the opposet.
Nancy did not invented the basic-morale concepts she's using as a cover but merely copied these concepts elsewhere and added some additions, her spin.

Let us see what he has to say! This tard is of course not normal.

Let us play a little game with him. Only the Zetas can help him...lol..or Nancy!

I will copy my last messages again and again...till he answers! In the end it is a sad story, because nobody close to Nancy has ever stayed normal....Just remember Gerard Zwaan or even Cheryl Nelson! The sad story of an internet cult!

Free Store? A running joke here!
Andrew Veresay, the child molestor, and Nancy`s right hand.
Did you know that Poleshit-Poli thinks that this Andrew Veresay is his big idol (role model)?

You see how crazy cults can be ...!
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You should have seen how C.T.Wakefield went on a run to try copying Nancy's techniques (after he got kicked out of the Moderation).
He claimed he'd channel the Zetas, Jesus, the Lord of Karma and some other guys (no joke!!) and would make death threats on us.. Well, in the name of the Lord of Karma. lol.

He started his own ning offering "karming lifts" if you'd just ask...
Unfortunately he wasn't as popular as Nancy and the whole thing seemed to be a flop.. Now he still got his own site and seemingly tries to use ZT as a booster. i.e. jumping on Nancy's bandwagon... although he confessed his real opinion elsewhere shortly after I send the broadcast. Think it was on reeeddit (wtf why is this word blocked)?
Look him up..

Another ego as Nancy... cash-type-of-people.

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EDIT:
[link to survivingthepoleshift.com] there.. 1rof11dunno1 his current website.


His Ning was [link to poleshift-survival-network.ning.com] , but it ain't anymore...
wish I saved some of these posts...

it was like, Take Nancy and multiply it with 10 x more obvious, 10 x more sloppy...

People would come and say about their problems, and he'd answer some woo woo and say their karma was lifted.
lmao

like, wtf...?!
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What the fuck??? LMAO!
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74444 being correct in saying that the article doesn't even mention the word 'Pole Shift.'.AC 3663979 - Doublecheck the topic change which is now [link to poleshift.ning.com] -> Weather Channel Depicts Planet X/Passage (NEW ZetaTalk).

No "pole shift" in report but only in Nancy's topic, now changed. The new Zetatalk contains not the word "pole shift" either.

You simply took what she offered. Wrong approach, imo.
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OMFG!!!

nancy `changed' the infallible `words' of the zetas!!!


tell me it isnt so....


now nancy about that 100% accurate zetatalk you seem so fond of quoting...

why do you need to change your zetababble headlines so quickly- usually quite soon after their mistakes are made in this thread- this thread that annessss keeps telling us all the zetatards are banned from???

(or is that another `white lie' from the zetas???)
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No. Nancy wrote the original topic by herself, including the word Pole shift and saying that the movie or article depicts a poleshift. Now that Zetatalk is in the article the topic has been changed to no more containing the word Pole Shift in the topic because wether the movie nor the article or whatever is yet directly using this word. The New Zetatalk builds a bridge to the video / arcticle description in point out that this is related to what they prognosed -> a Pole Shift
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lol!
Prediction right = Zetas right again!!!! (when has a prediction ever been right?)

Prediction wrong = oh, Nancy wrote that one without Zeta input. The Zetas have since corrected it. Zetas right again!!!


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