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Freak show sounds far better ;) ...beat_plast

A nasty and ugly freak show! They hate us over there cause we are confronting them with the truth they don`t want to hear.

We should send them all to Indonesia to enjoy a big vacation there together: Gerard Zwaan, Ann S., Flareberto, Polspringer, Howard, our cultbilly Bill and so on ...

I wonder how many Nibirus they would find in their pool.

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And exactly that is why it is constructed like that by the Zetas. One needs to be able to maintain doubt to crawl back into his snail shell to feel secure. It is necessary to survive for ALL of us. I am refering to our ability to NOT find absolute "truth" about several aspects which are about to "come" to men.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


But of course the whole concept of intentional "doubt" never entered into the ZetaTalk message until the huge 2003 fail.

Prior to that the "Zetas" presented their message as absolute truth and May 15, 2003 as the date against which all other sources of information were to be judged.

The "Zetas" repeatedly said that if the pole shift did not happen then they were to be harshly judged and rightly so.

The "element of doubt" argument is nothing but after the fact rationalization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


ZetaTalk: Element of Doubt
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
[link to www.zetatalk.com] -> explains it, also containing an update Note: below added during the Sep 7, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Your statement:
But of course the whole concept of intentional "doubt" never entered into the ZetaTalk message until the huge 2003 fail.
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does not stand up to a test.
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No. The alternative explanation -> [link to cosmiclog.nbcnews.com] , the link to [link to vault.fbi.gov] the Newsletter Link (by Nancy) -> [link to www.zetatalk.com] and the new expected Zetatalk will eventually bring a wider perspective about this issue and everybody can make up their own mind about it. That is what I say.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei

Hi Panta Rhei

you are walking on very, very thin ice.

* The Zetas already addressed this subject.
* The Zetas are 100% true.
* Thus the Zatas can not change the ZetaTalk to fit with the new alternative explanation, because then they would admit they are not 100% true.
By mentioning this alternative explanation you doubt that the Zetas are 100% true because they already addressed this subject.

If you bring this into the poleshift.ning you will be kicked at once or, if you are "lucky", they will first try to bring into line.


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 Quoting: Hydra


you are walking on very, very thin ice.
 Quoting: Hydra


I don't see me walking on thin ice.

The Zetas are 100% true.
 Quoting: Hydra


Can you explain a bit more what you mean with this? Do you mean that the Zetas are:

1) 100% true in their existence
2) or do you mean that the Zetas say they'd be 100% accurate in what they predict or do you mean the
3) Zetas claim they are 100% trustworthy?

If you bring this into the poleshift.ning you will be kicked at once or, if you are "lucky", they will first try to bring into line.
 Quoting: Hydra


Thanks for the warning. I have no intention whatsoever to ask about the alternative explanation -> [link to cosmiclog.nbcnews.com] It is an interesting link though.

I'll stick with what I wrote before:

No. The alternative explanation -> [link to cosmiclog.nbcnews.com] , the link to [link to vault.fbi.gov] the Newsletter Link (by Nancy) -> [link to www.zetatalk.com] and the new expected Zetatalk will eventually bring a wider perspective about this issue and everybody can make up their own mind about it. That is what I say.
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Panta; please explain to me the justification of the instruction to the followers to murder their pets? Some white lie that one eh?
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Sadly we seem to be back to the `good old days- one post and instaban unless paying up to $$ to trinity

Rather sad to see that even debunkers gets banned on glp- (but hang on a sec- arent we supposed to be the `in' crowd, only annnnsss and her mob are supposed to be banned- not me!!!

its almost as if annnnsss is telling fibs to get support...

that would never happen, sto aren't to be liers are they (spelling mistake intentional)
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Sadly we seem to be back to the `good old days- one post and instaban unless paying up to $$ to trinity

Rather sad to see that even debunkers gets banned on glp- (but hang on a sec- arent we supposed to be the `in' crowd, only annnnsss and her mob are supposed to be banned- not me!!!

its almost as if annnnsss is telling fibs to get support...

that would never happen, sto aren't to be liers are they (spelling mistake intentional)
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hmmm got the banned ip message, fired off a (very) irate and not very subtle message to the `why should we unban you' page- and i'm unbanned???

thats new...

One small step for glp, one huge leap for mankind...

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Strange, I thought that pole shit had advised their gullible idiots, sorry, members, not to post on this thread. Could it be because they might begin to see through the lies?
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I can tell you what he means, jackass:

1) Zetas only exist in Nancy`s head
2) All of Nancy`s predictions always failed
3) All of Nancy`s predictions will always fail

You seem to have a problem with reading Nancy-troll.

The guys here showed you that all of Nancy`s science is plagiarism. She copied it from some sources from the early 80s. And you really wonder why we should read this crapola?

Every scientific knowledge is translated into English. Otherwise you can not really participate in a scientific discussion. That is easy to understand.

By the way Elemental`s question is probably more important than reading some old hoax-stories of crazy Nancy. Nancrapola invented them back in 1995. Do you remember the scary story of Hale-Bopp. Why do you not answer to the pictures of the webcam in Indonesia?

Is there too much cultbabble in your head? Why can you not answer easy questions?

Besides that I want to know who you are, jackass. You have a German ISP. There are only around three cult zealots left in Germany. Poleshit-Poli, Katche (hat einen an der Klatsche) or perhaps Niels N. But Niels left the cult as a broken man. He has got no thank you and nothing for following and serving the cult for more than 15 years. Nobody needs a pink panther here who is babbling cult-shit.

Or do you really think that the people are interested here in Nancy`s weird cult babble? As I have mentioned it above: you visited the wrong doctor. Go to a cult therapist.

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... If I post a complete website from Zetatalk here Hydra or others eventually will inform a mod and my posting will be removed or shortened....
If the rule is more stringent and you get immediately suspended or banned on the polehift.ning then this should be described so in the very same rules.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei

There is a significant difference:

This GLP rule is to prevent take down notices because of copyright infringement.

The poleshift.ning rule is to prevent members to ask uncomfortable questions.

See the difference?

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 Quoting: Hydra


I will answer your question from yesterday and your reminder above later, since I got a date at the dentist in a minute.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei

No problem.



This is your interpretation of that specific rule.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei

Would be nice to hear your interpretation, what you think the rule is for.

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 Quoting: Hydra


This is your interpretation of that specific rule.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei

Would be nice to hear your interpretation, what you think the rule is for.

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Would be nice to hear your interpretation, what you think the rule is for.
 Quoting: Hydra


I recommend you to read: Posting Guidelines -> [link to poleshift.ning.com] and Premise and rules -> [link to poleshift.ning.com] and as an example -> [link to poleshift.ning.com] on TOP of the page.

To achieve what is described in the premises and rules and on the othher sites of the poleshift.ning it is obviously considered to be necessary to create such rules based on ealier experiences Gerard and Nancy and eventually other Mods, have had. I have no other explanation here, Hydra. You might want to address your question directly to Gerard.
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Panta, you need to have your own point of view, not simply direct us to a site which is full of unsubstantiated nonsense. I have no wish to read zeta talk, I have no belief in lens flare photographs or the second hand message of aliens, especially when their predictions have failed with such hilarity.
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I recommend you to read: Posting Guidelines -> [link to poleshift.ning.com] and Premise and rules -> [link to poleshift.ning.com] and as an example -> [link to poleshift.ning.com] on TOP of the page.

To achieve what is described in the premises and rules and on the othher sites of the poleshift.ning it is obviously considered to be necessary to create such rules based on ealier experiences Gerard and Nancy and eventually other Mods, have had. I have no other explanation here, Hydra. You might want to address your question directly to Gerard.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


It's right there in the rules you posted.

"No debating the reality of Planet X and the validity of ZetaTalk. REASON paid debunking and desire to 'say it ain't so' make valid discussion impossible, else."

Her ridiculous excuses aside, the supposed reality of PX is *completely* up for debate, particularly as she describes it -- but not so on her site.

ZT is a religion, and a poor one. Nothing more.
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I recommend you to read: Posting Guidelines -> [link to poleshift.ning.com] and Premise and rules -> [link to poleshift.ning.com] and as an example -> [link to poleshift.ning.com] on TOP of the page.

To achieve what is described in the premises and rules and on the othher sites of the poleshift.ning it is obviously considered to be necessary to create such rules based on ealier experiences Gerard and Nancy and eventually other Mods, have had. I have no other explanation here, Hydra. You might want to address your question directly to Gerard.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


So you accept whatever is said by those ning people at face value, as if it is accurate and truthful? That's rich. Then we are back to pointing out the obvious fact that there are dozens or hundreds of demonstrably false claims, predictions and statements in Zetatalk, and they won't allow anyone to point that out.

They define hard questions, asked by non-believers, as "disruption" and say "disruption" is not allowed. Of COURSE it "disrupts" what they are doing, but what they are doing is spreading false information. Their claimed belief that everything in Zetatalk is true doesn't change that. Nancy's Zetatalk ning is the home base of a cult and it doesn't allow any challenge to the alleged "truth" it puts forth.
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He just wants to troll around and spread some cult-bullshit here.

So this must be Katche deep in love with Poleshit-Ann. Two lost souls who have found another in the brainwashed system of their cult.

By the way I have just asked for a new membership there, Katche. As your page is free and open to discussions we should soon read us there. What do you think?

The last time I was there I posted some pics of crazy Nancy and all the innocent pets. That was soon after their big 7 of 10 hoax. At that time Lothar S. was censoring. But he left the cult too. Did you read his testimony on Cheryl`s Ning, jackass?

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Panta, you need to have your own point of view, not simply direct us to a site which is full of unsubstantiated nonsense. I have no wish to read zeta talk, I have no belief in lens flare photographs or the second hand message of aliens, especially when their predictions have failed with such hilarity.
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I think I made it very clear that I have my own opinion about stuff when posting as Panta Rhei and AC36382091/36779524 beforehand.

I have no wish to read zeta talk
 Quoting: Elemental


then why are you here?

Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!

Debunker Talk Live Chat May 15
Feel free to quote ANY poster from those silly SOZT...EOZT threads etc etc.
Or just post your thoughts/opinions.

Open Discussion on Zetatalk; Bunkers; and it/their inability, over the last Six years to provide ANY truthful Facts and Knowledge to support the absurd Failed predictions of the "Candy Wrapper Aliens".

Let's see how long the Three "bunker" Amigos can bounce off each other in their little padded room over there on Zetatalk Jive Turkey Chat!!

PS: If any of you debunkers want to meet in the GLP text/voice chat for some LIVE audio conversation we should set a day/time to meet up in one of the rooms to have a discussion etc.

Would find it a pleasure to converse with some of you guys. I mean there's a wealth of different subjects to talk about besides this silly zetatalk stuff.

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I'm here to read your explanation. Simple. Could you furnish me with the knowledge as to why Nancy instructed her followers to murder their pets based on the unsubstantiated premise of disaster and also murdered her own dog? Both my dog and I are eager for your reply, forgive our impatience but this is a matter not easily forgiven.
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I can tell you what he means, jackass:

1) Zetas only exist in Nancy`s head
2) All of Nancy`s predictions always failed
3) All of Nancy`s predictions will always fail

You seem to have a problem with reading Nancy-troll.

The guys here showed you that all of Nancy`s science is plagiarism. She copied it from some sources from the early 80s. And you really wonder why we should read this crapola?

Every scientific knowledge is translated into English. Otherwise you can not really participate in a scientific discussion. That is easy to understand.

By the way Elemental`s question is probably more important than reading some old hoax-stories of crazy Nancy. Nancrapola invented them back in 1995. Do you remember the scary story of Hale-Bopp. Why do you not answer to the pictures of the webcam in Indonesia?

Is there too much cultbabble in your head? Why can you not answer easy questions?

Besides that I want to know who you are, jackass. You have a German ISP. There are only around three cult zealots left in Germany. Poleshit-Poli, Katche (hat einen an der Klatsche) or perhaps Niels N. But Niels left the cult as a broken man. He has got no thank you and nothing for following and serving the cult for more than 15 years. Nobody needs a pink panther here who is babbling cult-shit.

Or do you really think that the people are interested here in Nancy`s weird cult babble? As I have mentioned it above: you visited the wrong doctor. Go to a cult therapist.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Nothing more to say. But I`m not sure why this idiot has free access to a computer in his clinic.

Your Nibiru exists only in your head. Every astronomer - both professionals and amateurs can tell you this - so why do you bother here?

Why do you not make a little vacation to Indonesia with the other victims of the cult? You could so easily find out the truth there. Why do you hesitate and spam some threads here?

Are you afraid of the truth? You could go there altogether: Ann S., Gerard Zwaan, Nancy Liar, Poleshit-Poli, Katche and so on ...

When you come back from your vacation you can spam here again. Or show us all these big cities under water? We would never write a word again.

But we all know that you receive your weird informations from your cult page. Why are you so afraid to have an encounter with reality? Nancy predicted that for you, so you should believe it?

pennywiseRight or wrong?

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I'm here to read your explanation. Simple. Could you furnish me with the knowledge as to why Nancy instructed her followers to murder their pets based on the unsubstantiated premise of disaster and also murdered her own dog? Both my dog and I are eager for your reply, forgive our impatience but this is a matter not easily forgiven.
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Why don't you ask Nancy about her motives or instructions directly?
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I'm here to read your explanation. Simple. Could you furnish me with the knowledge as to why Nancy instructed her followers to murder their pets based on the unsubstantiated premise of disaster and also murdered her own dog? Both my dog and I are eager for your reply, forgive our impatience but this is a matter not easily forgiven.
 Quoting: Elemental


Why don't you ask Nancy about her motives or instructions directly?
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I'm asking you. I have no wish to converse with a liar whom you appear to believe. It is your viewpoint that I am seeking. Yours. Would you or did you murder your pet?
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I did that! And as I`m very nice I asked for a membership at the poleshift.ning.com.

Today! So this should get a wonderful friendship.

Perhaps you can answer us our questions there, as you seem to be a little bit blind sometimes here ... whatever

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I did that! And as I`m very nice I asked for a membership at the poleshift.ning.com.

Today! So this should get a wonderful friendship.

Perhaps you can answer us our questions there, as you seem to be a little bit blind sometimes here ... whatever
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Lol, think that you're going to be blown out there dude!
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Do you not have your own thoughts Panta? Do you simply redirect every question about Nancy to Nancy talk? Where is your mind? Where is your heart? (Panta desperately searching through zetacrap for an answer......)
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And exactly that is why it is constructed like that by the Zetas. One needs to be able to maintain doubt to crawl back into his snail shell to feel secure. It is necessary to survive for ALL of us. I am refering to our ability to NOT find absolute "truth" about several aspects which are about to "come" to men.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


But of course the whole concept of intentional "doubt" never entered into the ZetaTalk message until the huge 2003 fail.

Prior to that the "Zetas" presented their message as absolute truth and May 15, 2003 as the date against which all other sources of information were to be judged.

The "Zetas" repeatedly said that if the pole shift did not happen then they were to be harshly judged and rightly so.

The "element of doubt" argument is nothing but after the fact rationalization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


ZetaTalk: Element of Doubt
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
[link to www.zetatalk.com] -> explains it, also containing an update Note: below added during the Sep 7, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Your statement:
But of course the whole concept of intentional "doubt" never entered into the ZetaTalk message until the huge 2003 fail.
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does not stand up to a test.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


Quote from that Zetatalk page:

"The Element of Doubt rule must be interpreted in light of the absolute certainty that the alien presence is real, or not."


That page specifically relates to the idea of an alleged alien presence and NOT to whether what is specifically said and/or predicted in Zetatalk is truthful.
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PS: All Zeta claims related to the passage of PX were most certainly declared to be absolutely factual and true until AFTER the 2003 prediction failed. It was only then that the idea of a "White Lie" was introduced.
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I really don't understand the problem with my question. All I want to know is how it is justifiable to instruct ones followers to destroy their pets. If one has taken it upon oneself to give that instruction, the intention was indisputably clear. Why has a clear, cognitive and salient answer not been afforded to me? If the belief in zetacrap is so strong, the answer should be plainly evident.
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Where does it stop? I love my granddaughter more than my dog, but she wouldn't survive your insane scenario - she would suffer; so do I murder her too? And my daughter...what about her? Is the instruction to kill pets that may suffer or anyone who may suffer. Why just animals? That one instruction was a zeta suicide note that no amount of back pedalling is going to undo.
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Where does it stop? I love my granddaughter more than my dog, but she wouldn't survive your insane scenario - she would suffer; so do I murder her too? And my daughter...what about her? Is the instruction to kill pets that may suffer or anyone who may suffer. Why just animals? That one instruction was a zeta suicide note that no amount of back pedalling is going to undo.
 Quoting: Elemental

Because you can't eat your daughter and granddaughter but according to Nancy "a dog makes a great meal".

skitten

No, not serious.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Where does it stop? I love my granddaughter more than my dog, but she wouldn't survive your insane scenario - she would suffer; so do I murder her too? And my daughter...what about her? Is the instruction to kill pets that may suffer or anyone who may suffer. Why just animals? That one instruction was a zeta suicide note that no amount of back pedalling is going to undo.
 Quoting: Elemental

Because you can't eat your daughter and granddaughter but according to Nancy "a dog makes a great meal".

skitten

No, not serious.


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I feel nauseous to the extreme.
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ZetaTalk: Element of Doubt
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
[link to www.zetatalk.com] -> explains it, also containing an update Note: below added during the Sep 7, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


ZetaTalk Accuracy is designed to allow the populace to discern truth in a message, vs newcomers to the scene who want the stage but invent the message. This does not prove that aliens are real, as Nancy could be getting the message from the government, be a front for release of this information, deniable where a straight-forward government source would not be deniable. Thus, the Element of Doubt is maintained.
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Big difference here. She is still claiming 100% accuracy for the ZetaTalk message at this point. The "element of doubt" only applied to what the actual source of the accurate information might be. The "element of doubt" as to the accuracy of what the "Zetas" say never came into play until after 2003.

At no point did she ever say, for example, that 2003 might or might not be the date. She didn't start hedging her bets that way until after the big prophecy failed. Otherwise there would have been no need for the elaborate "White Lie" rationalization.
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Big difference here. She is still claiming 100% accuracy for the ZetaTalk message at this point. The "element of doubt" only applied to what the actual source of the accurate information might be. The "element of doubt" as to the accuracy of what the "Zetas" say never came into play until after 2003.

At no point did she ever say, for example, that 2003 might or might not be the date. She didn't start hedging her bets that way until after the big prophecy failed. Otherwise there would have been no need for the elaborate "White Lie" rationalization.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


I agree with you.

It was poleshift, poleshift, poleshift, poleshift for years and years and then suddenly white lie.

It was definite poleshift until she was forced to use the white lie.
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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I'm here to read your explanation. Simple. Could you furnish me with the knowledge as to why Nancy instructed her followers to murder their pets based on the unsubstantiated premise of disaster and also murdered her own dog? Both my dog and I are eager for your reply, forgive our impatience but this is a matter not easily forgiven.
 Quoting: Elemental


Why don't you ask Nancy about her motives or instructions directly?
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


And how specifically would one do that? Unlike here any such question on her site would wind up immediately deleted and result in being banned.


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