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2. Only ZetaTalk has a prediction and accuracy track record bar none.


True, most people get predictions right some of the times, Nancy can't win a trick - accuracy 100% FAIL!
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I think that this must have been provided purely for amusement......

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Notice Astro's mention...!
 Quoting: Elemental


Gerard -
The Establishment deliberately covered up the presence of Planet X since at least 1983.


quote (1983)
So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a
nearby "protostar" that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that
it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the
light cast by its stars ever gets through.

"All I can tell you is that we don't know what it is," Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief
scientist for California's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory
for the California Institute of Technology, said in an interview.
end quote
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 37182787


The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue 73, Sunday April 13, 2008
Seeking Planet X -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

[While the IRAS team struggled to explain just what they had found, they were quick to point out that it was not "incoming mail". But how could they say that if they didn't know quite what it was? The quick assurance that the discovery was not "inbound" was a clue that panic was just under the surface. The fear was that the public would panic and make demands on the government, and thus a cover-up was quickly put into place. All talk of the true purpose of the Pioneer probes and those perturbations on outer planets that had been observed for centuries was halted. ]
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The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue 73, Sunday April 13, 2008
Seeking Planet X -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

[While the IRAS team struggled to explain just what they had found, they were quick to point out that it was not "incoming mail". But how could they say that if they didn't know quite what it was? The quick assurance that the discovery was not "inbound" was a clue that panic was just under the surface. The fear was that the public would panic and make demands on the government, and thus a cover-up was quickly put into place. All talk of the true purpose of the Pioneer probes and those perturbations on outer planets that had been observed for centuries was halted. ]
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


Still haven't found an original thought of your own? Right.

While the IRAS team struggled to explain just what they had found, they were quick to point out that it was not "incoming mail". But how could they say that if they didn't know quite what it was?
 Quoting: Panta Rhei

Duh. It was observed to be light years away and not moving towards us, just not precisely what it was.

The quick assurance that the discovery was not "inbound" was a clue that panic was just under the surface. The fear was that the public would panic and make demands on the government, and thus a cover-up was quickly put into place.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei

Or maybe the assurance was given because it was true.

All talk of the true purpose of the Pioneer probes and those perturbations on outer planets that had been observed for centuries was halted.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei
And for good measure, resort to making things up.
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Panta, you need to pedal your wares elsewhere; it's becoming inordinately boring reading. All it is worth is debunking which even my granddaughter could do. If you want to believe go ahead and do so. Surely it's obvious by your increasingly accelerated loss of membership numbers that ignorance and cultism is a choice. One that we are free not to make.
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Gerard

2. Only ZetaTalk has a prediction and accuracy track record bar none.


True, most people get predictions right some of the times, Nancy can't win a trick - accuracy 100% FAIL!
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 37182787


My dearly departed father had a saying;

You can fool some of the people all of the time,
you can fool all of the people some of the time
But you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
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Panta, you need to pedal your wares elsewhere; it's becoming inordinately boring reading. All it is worth is debunking which even my granddaughter could do. If you want to believe go ahead and do so. Surely it's obvious by your increasingly accelerated loss of membership numbers that ignorance and cultism is a choice. One that we are free not to make.
 Quoting: Elemental


Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
Debunker Talk Live Chat May 15
Feel free to quote ANY poster from those silly SOZT...EOZT threads etc etc.
Or just post your thoughts/opinions.

Open Discussion on Zetatalk; Bunkers; and it/their inability, over the last Six years to provide ANY truthful Facts and Knowledge to support the absurd Failed predictions of the "Candy Wrapper Aliens".

Let's see how long the Three "bunker" Amigos can bounce off each other in their little padded room over there on Zetatalk Jive Turkey Chat!!

PS: If any of you debunkers want to meet in the GLP text/voice chat for some LIVE audio conversation we should set a day/time to meet up in one of the rooms to have a discussion etc.

Would find it a pleasure to converse with some of you guys. I mean there's a wealth of different subjects to talk about besides this silly zetatalk stuff.

Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 03/14/2012 17:30
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But, dear Panta, you're not discussing anything; simply copying & pasting.
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But, dear Panta, you're not discussing anything; simply copying & pasting.
 Quoting: Elemental


I think that this must have been provided purely for amusement......

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Notice Astro's mention...!
 Quoting: Elemental


Gerard -
The Establishment deliberately covered up the presence of Planet X since at least 1983.


quote (1983)
So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a
nearby "protostar" that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that
it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the
light cast by its stars ever gets through.

"All I can tell you is that we don't know what it is," Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief
scientist for California's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory
for the California Institute of Technology, said in an interview.
end quote
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 37182787


prof-rabbit nli 37182787 requested that link, no need to "discuss", just read with an opened mind and your heart.
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I read that back in the 90s when Internet sensationalism was in it's infancy; when it was more conducive to manipulation than now. These days there are increasing amounts of verifiable data available with which to seek one's own truth, should one have the motivation to do so, which, personally, I do. There will always be those that can't or won't and these will continue to be manipulated by those with meglomanic tendencies; this, in my mind, is wrong and unacceptable behaviour which I will continue to speak out against as long as I am able.
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I think that this must have been provided purely for amusement......

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Notice Astro's mention...!
 Quoting: Elemental


Their narcissism and ignorance knows no bounds.
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Gerard

2. Only ZetaTalk has a prediction and accuracy track record bar none.


True, most people get predictions right some of the times, Nancy can't win a trick - accuracy 100% FAIL!
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 37182787


My dearly departed father had a saying;

You can fool some of the people all of the time,
you can fool all of the people some of the time
But you can't fool all of the people all of the time.
 Quoting: Elemental


Yes,

Alexander McClure attributes the quote to Abraham Lincoln in his 1901 book Lincoln's Own Yarns and Stories.


It does seem however than you can fool a ning-tard anytime...
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So, the 10th anniversary of Nancy's May 15th "pole shift" failure is fast approaching. Next up - her May 27th "pole shift" failure, followed by her "definitely by June 1" failure, with her "weeks NOT months" failure right behind that on July 21. Before you know it, we'll be on the 10th anniversary of her "2012 is too far out" failure.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


The culttard keeps on spamming the thread with his old Zetababble. You don`t need an open mind for reading this bullshit, you must have lost your mind to even copy that garbage.

These texts are incredible old and only show how many of Nancy`s crazy predictions failed.

It looks like this culttard is another Zetaspambot, brainwashed and his head deep in Nancy`s ass. Nobody wants to read that crazy cultbabble here. This is no cultpage.

Above are some facts you can rely on.
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prof-rabbit nli 37182787 requested that link, no need to "discuss", just read with an opened mind and your heart.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


I made no request for that link, I already know Gerard has the nett common sense of a dolt. You on the other hand have even less.

When it comes to I.Q. points, you lose them every time you go to the bathroom. If you were any more stupid you would photosynthesise in sunlight, perhaps you do anyway.

It's pointless to make fun of you because it will take you the rest of the day to figure it out.
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The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue 73, Sunday April 13, 2008
Seeking Planet X -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

[While the IRAS team struggled to explain just what they had found, they were quick to point out that it was not "incoming mail". But how could they say that if they didn't know quite what it was?
 Quoting: Panta Rhei

If you see a dust cloud far away in the desert, you may not be able to recognice if it is a car, a pickup or a truck - but sure as hell you can see if it's incoming.


The quick assurance that the discovery was not "inbound" was a clue that panic was just under the surface. The fear was that the public would panic and make demands on the government, and thus a cover-up was quickly put into place.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei

A good example, how Nancy twists the news to fit her crazy ideas.


All talk of the true purpose of the Pioneer probes and those perturbations on outer planets that had been observed for centuries was halted. ]
 Quoting: Panta Rhei

"There are no discrepancies in the trajectories of any space probes such as Pioneer 10, Pioneer 11, Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 that can be attributed to the gravitational pull of a large undiscovered object in the outer Solar System."
Littmann (1990), p. 204

You see, that the quote is from 1990 - 5 years before Nancy came up with her PX crap?

.
If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

aseindia
Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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"There are no discrepancies in the trajectories of any space probes such as Pioneer 10, Pioneer 11, Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 that can be attributed to the gravitational pull of a large undiscovered object in the outer Solar System."
Littmann (1990), p. 204

You see, that the quote is from 1990 - 5 years before Nancy came up with her PX crap?

.
 Quoting: Hydra


He will occasionally stumble over the truth, but just as quickly pick himself up and carry on as if nothing happened, that is the lot of the ning tard.
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LOL! Hillarious that post of "Why You Should Trust ZetaTalk Above All Others"
[link to poleshift.ning.com]
ZetaTalk

Pros

1. Information received from advanced, fourth density service to other ETs, who reveal the truth within Rules they must abide by; ZetaTalk is not channeled.
 Quoting: Gerard: per Nancys commandament


Logical fallacy - not an argument.
It is irrelevant who the information is coming from as it changes nothing of the facts presented.
Quality not quantity.

2. Only ZetaTalk has a prediction and accuracy track record bar none.
 Quoting: Gerard: per Nancys commandament

Yes just like they obviously (successfully) predicted Earth is stopped in its Orbit,
Venus is caught is some cup,
Indonesia underwater,
Poleshift in 2003...
etc etc..

in other words: An accuracy track record of 0% bar none.

3. Only Nancy Lieder was singled out by NASA for special criticism.
 Quoting: Gerard: per Nancys commandament


Logical fallacy - no argument.
Just because some people call out Nancy for being a Fraud doesn't make her more confirmative!
Its proof how self-inflated her ego is to even consider that as an argument.

4. Only ZetaTalk predicted NASA wound announce the presence of Planet X; no one else made this specific prediction prior to the Zetas.
 Quoting: Gerard: per Nancys commandament


This is not an argument unless this actually occured.
How can you use something in the future, not yet happened, not even hints about it, as proof for the present?
PS-Ning logic I guess.

5. Only Nancy Lieder is the "founder" of the modern day Planet X theory (no longer a theory).
 Quoting: Gerard: per Nancys commandament


Nope. See "Man from PlanetX" or "Zaccharia/Stichins" pseudoscientific BS.
Although proof of her self-inflated ego again.

6. Only the Zetas accurately described the location of Planet X so the Establishment could find it.
 Quoting: Gerard: per Nancys commandament


Unless you can't provide any proof - not an argument.
Also, what does the establishment has that amateur astronomers don't?
There's no Planet X.

7. Only ZetaTalk correctly stated when Planet X would arrive in the inner solar system (2003).
 Quoting: Gerard: per Nancys commandament


Correctly? Nope.
Where is that proof that PX entered the solar system in 2003 then? Please?
BTW: While you're digging for it, also dig out that proof that earth is halted...

8. Only ZetaTalk has been accurately explaining earth changes and signs in the sky while the Establishment has been silent or put out lies, disinformation, and misinformation.
 Quoting: Gerard: per Nancys commandament

What earth changes?
Earthquakes aren't increasing, there's no indefinite proof of an approaching planet...
Signs in the sky? You mean lenseflares? Flareberto's Planet Exe?


9. Only ZetaTalk presented science that human scientists later discovered or confirmed (Big Foot, faster than the speed of light, etc.)
 Quoting: Gerard: per Nancys commandament


Big Foot? Source?
Also if "ZetaTalk" allegedly discovered new science, how is it they don't even understand current (most basic) science?

10. Only ZetaTalk -- among many other things and starting way back in 1995 -- correctly predicted and described the earth wobble, extreme weather, drought and deluge, collapsing buildings and bridges, exploding gas lines and breaking water mains, exponential increase in earthquakes and volcanic eruptions, and the sun, moon, and the stars frequently out of position.
 Quoting: Gerard: per Nancys commandament


There's no Earth Wobble unless you prove it.
There's no relation between a Planet and weather, drought, collapsing buildings, etc UNTIL YOU PROVE IT.
So far, its just a confirmation-bias.

Also, may bother to show me some statistics showing that "exponential increase in earthquakes and volcanoes"??
Then why do you claim such a BS?


11. ZetaTalk itself is almost 10,000 pages long yet consistent.
 Quoting: Gerard: per Nancys commandament

lmao
Yes... very consistent... see Earth halted, Venus off, "Earth wobble", daily flareberto's flare yet nobody can see it...

Very consistent indeed.
Again,
quality not quantity.



Contras:

1. Information received via telepathic communication with ETs via one, and only one, human Emissary: Nancy Lieder.
 Quoting: Gerard: per Nancys commandament


Nice try Gerard... next time kick-start your brain and really start to think about some contras instead of such a onesided-opinion you copy n pasted.

2. Disagreeing discussion is not allowed.

3. The basic concepts deeply lack data to back it up. (Including the Pros above)

4. 99% of ZetaTalk is based on "belief"

5. Believers are not able for rational dicussion.

6. Disagreeing facts are considered wrong in some way.

7. ZetaTalk is blindly believed because it is supposed to be 100% accurate, eliminating every possibility
of natural critique.

8. Nancy keeps fearmongering while Point 3 is still apparent.

9....




Its such a shame that naive people get served such un unbalanced report by the Moderators who've just become suck-puppets to Nancy parroting all her alleged positive attributes and avoid the negative...

If you're not able for rational thought. Quit it. Close it.. because you are misleading people.
Presenting speculation as arguments,
alleged facts, although none of them have been proven,
telling your master is to be trusted while there's clear indication not to - that is.

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 03/31/2013 10:13 AM
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Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
Debunker Talk Live Chat May 15
Feel free to quote ANY poster from those silly SOZT...EOZT threads etc etc.
Or just post your thoughts/opinions.

Open Discussion on Zetatalk; Bunkers; and it/their inability, over the last Six years to provide ANY truthful Facts and Knowledge to support the absurd Failed predictions of the "Candy Wrapper Aliens".

Let's see how long the Three "bunker" Amigos can bounce off each other in their little padded room over there on Zetatalk Jive Turkey Chat!!

PS: If any of you debunkers want to meet in the GLP text/voice chat for some LIVE audio conversation we should set a day/time to meet up in one of the rooms to have a discussion etc.

Would find it a pleasure to converse with some of you guys. I mean there's a wealth of different subjects to talk about besides this silly zetatalk stuff.

Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 03/14/2012 17:30
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 Quoting: Panta Rhei


You obviously diidn't notice the word *truthful* there.
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You obviously diidn't notice the word *truthful* there.
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They usually don't. They only care about speculation and hearsay.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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Nancy`s world and predictions are a naive fallacy. There is no fortune teller out there who has a worse accuracy record than Lieder. You can see fails all along her way. Her personal disaster as water diviner started back in 1995 with her Hale-Bopp-hoax.

From that day on all her prophecy failed. You just have to remember the bunch of failed predictions of 2003. Circuit Breaker and Truther gave us a good reminder here. Even mentioning the word accuracy record in combination with Nancy Liar is a double hoax.

In my eyes Gerard Zwaan looks both mentally deficient and physically broken. He doesn`t write very much and when he writes something it seems to be pure comedy gold.

For example he was celebrating Hugo Chavez and Ahmadinedschad as real STOs. Chavez was a criminal mafia-boss and working together with the Columbian mafia. Meanwhile Zwaan appears to be rather abulic and lethargic.

He probably has the Niels-syndrome. Niels N. was the leader of the German Zeta-movement some years ago. In the end he had to resign because of very intense psychological problems.

The cult had broken and brainwashed him till he got crazy. I know about some people who were with him on a survival trip. He couldn`t talk with them anymore. In the night he was running up and down the stairs and tried to rip his own hair mumbling strange words. Zwaan has the same syndrome. It took Niels N. a last desperate effort to leave the cult. He probably had to start a psychotherapy. In his farewell letter he wrote that it will take him years till he can talk about that topic again. But he also made his peace and his pour soul came free again after he told everybody about Nancy`s blatant lies. COS rescued this poor man because he is strong and not afraid to speak out the truth when it is necessary. Zwaan will never come to this point again: he lost it all. The cult itself hated him (Niels N.) for throwing some light on Nancy`s lies. He was a humble servant for more than a decade, but he didn`t get one word of thank you. When you leave the cult, the cultists hate you because you are acting like a mirror for them. And they will break down and cry when they have to look into it. Ann S. is the best example for this phenomenon.

We are talking about a guy here who is living only a few meters away from the coast while awaiting the alleged Armageddon of his cult mistress. They are crazy and lost. Nothing in this weird cult makes sense but many of these poor cultists behave like ants. All their amount of intelligence was reduced to being cult insects with blind belief and refusing reality. They do not only try to see planets through old floppy disks they are Nancy`s brainwashed floppy disks. Zetatalk is a very sad story of abuse and criminal activities.

Here some other victims of cults talk about their way to freedom. It is a long and stony way. But you will have to start it if you don`t want to get completely lost. Cults like Zetatalk are very, very dangerous. There is no doubt about that.


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Nancy wasn't even the first to look for planet x.

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Contras:

1. Information received via telepathic communication with ETs via one, and only one, human Emissary: Nancy Lieder.
 Quoting: Gerard


Nice try Gerard... next time kick-start your brain and really start to think about some contras instead of such a onesided-opinion you copy n pasted.

2. Disagreeing discussion is not allowed.

3. The basic concepts deeply lack data to back it up. (Including the Pros above)

4. 99% of ZetaTalk is based on "belief"

5. Believers are not able for rational dicussion.

6. Disagreeing facts are considered wrong in some way.

7. ZetaTalk is blindly believed because it is supposed to be 100% accurate, eliminating every possibility
of natural critique.

8. Nancy keeps fearmongering while Point 3 is still apparent.

9....

 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


9. The Zetas and Nancy have repeatedly lied in the past, and admitted these lies, therefore their words should always be in doubt.

10. Any time a *specific* prediction or date in the future is made, the prediction fails.

11. The Earth/Solar System stubbornly refuses to dramatically end as advertised or scheduled.

11.5 The Earth/Solar System continue to behave exactly as if there were no PX at all.

12. Cornerstones of the ZT faith are provably false (Earth Halted).

13. The ZT Faith shares an enormous amount of characteristics with a classic cult. See 'When Prophecy Fails' by Festinger.

You could add a bunch more, I am sure.

In the meantime, I cannot help but notice the Believer ignoring my questions.

Panta -- what evidence can you imagine that would lead you to conclude that PX, as described by Nancy, doesn't exist?

How long are you willing to give Nancy the benefit of the doubt until you can provisionally conclude she is incorrect?

If nothing Nancy predicts (Obama announcement, Debunkers disappearing, PX plainly visible in sky) occurs by the end of this year, will you still believe Nancy?

If so, how about 2014?

If so, how long must Nancy's predictions fail to occur before you can provisionally conclude she is incorrect?
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 Quoting: Elemental


Thread: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
Debunker Talk Live Chat May 15
Feel free to quote ANY poster from those silly SOZT...EOZT threads etc etc.
Or just post your thoughts/opinions.

Open Discussion on Zetatalk; Bunkers; and it/their inability, over the last Six years to provide ANY truthful Facts and Knowledge to support the absurd Failed predictions of the "Candy Wrapper Aliens".

Let's see how long the Three "bunker" Amigos can bounce off each other in their little padded room over there on Zetatalk Jive Turkey Chat!!

PS: If any of you debunkers want to meet in the GLP text/voice chat for some LIVE audio conversation we should set a day/time to meet up in one of the rooms to have a discussion etc.

Would find it a pleasure to converse with some of you guys. I mean there's a wealth of different subjects to talk about besides this silly zetatalk stuff.

Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 03/14/2012 17:30
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger

 Quoting: Panta Rhei


You obviously diidn't notice the word *truthful* there.
 Quoting: Elemental


You obviously diidn't notice the word *truthful* there.
 Quoting: Elemental


The truth is in the eye of the beholder.
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For example he was celebrating Hugo Chavez and Ahmadinedschad as real STOs. Chavez was a criminal mafia-boss and working together with the Columbian mafia. Meanwhile Zwaan appears to be rather abulic and lethargic.

He probably has the Niels-syndrome. Niels N. was the leader of the German Zeta-movement some years ago. In the end he had to resign because of very intense psychological problems.

The cult had broken and brainwashed him till he got crazy. I know about some people who were with him on a survival trip. He couldn`t talk with them anymore. In the night he was running up and down the stairs and tried to rip his own hair mumbling strange words. Zwaan has the same syndrome. It took Niels N. a last desperate effort to leave the cult. He probably had to start a psychotherapy. In his farewell letter he wrote that it will take him years till he can talk about that topic again. But he also made his peace and his pour soul came free again after he told everybody about Nancy`s blatant lies. COS rescued this poor man because he is strong and not afraid to speak out the truth when it is necessary. Zwaan will never come to this point again: he lost it all. The cult itself hated him (Niels N.) for throwing some light on Nancy`s lies. He was a humble servant for more than a decade, but he didn`t get one word of thank you. When you leave the cult, the cultists hate you because you are acting like a mirror for them. And they will break down and cry when they have to look into it. Ann S. is the best example for this phenomenon.
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wow...
Niels has my full respect and admiration for being able to change his mind after so many years and I can imagine what he must be going through...

Unfortunately I didn't got to know him well so I can only speculate but his shift left me the impression that Niels was someone who always acted on the best of his conscience. A honest guy and very courageous to admit being wrong for such a long time.

I do not belong to that league, time-wise, and therefore only can partly relate how it must have felt like..

I wish him all the best on his transition and if he will read this one day, you got a friend over there in Hessen and I would be looking forward to get in touch if you ever feel compelled to do so.

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He is a Nancy-clown. She is sometimes sending us some trolls here. They will never answer a question and just use some copy and paste.

I guess Zetamax was the latest cult clown. They even want to look funny when they are posting bullshit. Soon...what means never.

The accident here is probably Poleshit-Poli. He`s a very poor man who got lost in this cult too. I still remember a dialogue with him and Niels N. back in 2009. They both swore that they won`t be here in 2011. Their Nancytalk would rescue them and the aliens would send them a lift.

It is a sad story, but you are still here, jackass! And nothing will change. How long do you want to wait?

I still remember their own predictions: 2013 would be too far out and we can not go further. When Nibiru will send us to heaven.

Like always when Nancy is trying to predict something, you will end up in an epic fail.

And it looks like their epic heaven is on godlikeproductions.com....1rof1pennywise

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In the meantime, I cannot help but notice the Believer ignoring my questions.

what evidence can you imagine that would lead you to conclude that PX, as described by Nancy, doesn't exist?

How long are you willing to give Nancy the benefit of the doubt until you can provisionally conclude she is incorrect?

If nothing Nancy predicts (Obama announcement, Debunkers disappearing, PX plainly visible in sky) occurs by the end of this year, will you still believe Nancy?

If so, how about 2014?

If so, how long must Nancy's predictions fail to occur before you can provisionally conclude she is incorrect?

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I feel for you 744 hf
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Why do you want to die in your cult Panta Rhei? Is there no more hope for you?

Chin up, you don`t need a cult to survive. You will be able to write here in 5 years and in ten years.

So why do you wait for an old full blown nuts?
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The truth is in the eye of the beholder.
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Okay, fine. If you want to believe what Nancy says as the truth, that's your choice. However, at what point will you start to question if "Planet X" exists? If it fails to show up within 6 months? A year? 10 years? Why won't any believer answer that?
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The truth is in the eye of the beholder.
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Okay, fine. If you want to believe what Nancy says as the truth, that's your choice. However, at what point will you start to question if "Planet X" exists? If it fails to show up within 6 months? A year? 10 years? Why won't any believer answer that?
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If you you read what I said as user AC36382091/36779524 then you should have a picture of what I believe or not.
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If you you read what I said as user AC36382091/36779524 then you should have a picture of what I believe or not.
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Didn't see it and I've seen 74444 ask a couple of times with no response. What page is this "answer" on?
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If you you read what I said as user AC36382091/36779524 then you should have a picture of what I believe or not.
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Didn't see it and I've seen 74444 ask a couple of times with no response. What page is this "answer" on?
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I saw no answer, either. Kindly link.


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