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In the meantime, I cannot help but notice the Believer ignoring my questions.

what evidence can you imagine that would lead you to conclude that PX, as described by Nancy, doesn't exist?

How long are you willing to give Nancy the benefit of the doubt until you can provisionally conclude she is incorrect?

If nothing Nancy predicts (Obama announcement, Debunkers disappearing, PX plainly visible in sky) occurs by the end of this year, will you still believe Nancy?

If so, how about 2014?

If so, how long must Nancy's predictions fail to occur before you can provisionally conclude she is incorrect?

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I feel for you 744 hf
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Thank you. It continues to interest me how *no* believer, over the years, has ever answered this. It's as if they *know* their belief is false, and will thusly avoid any such concrete answers, so they might *continue* to believe that much longer.
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The truth is in the eye of the beholder.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


Okay, fine. If you want to believe what Nancy says as the truth, that's your choice. However, at what point will you start to question if "Planet X" exists? If it fails to show up within 6 months? A year? 10 years? Why won't any believer answer that?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


The truth is in the eye of the beholder.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


Okay, fine. If you want to believe what Nancy says as the truth, that's your choice. However, at what point will you start to question if "Planet X" exists? If it fails to show up within 6 months? A year? 10 years? Why won't any believer answer that?
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If we make it June 1st, I'll be SHOCKED!
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The truth is in the eye of the beholder.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


Okay, fine. If you want to believe what Nancy says as the truth, that's your choice. However, at what point will you start to question if "Planet X" exists? If it fails to show up within 6 months? A year? 10 years? Why won't any believer answer that?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


The truth is in the eye of the beholder.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


Okay, fine. If you want to believe what Nancy says as the truth, that's your choice. However, at what point will you start to question if "Planet X" exists? If it fails to show up within 6 months? A year? 10 years? Why won't any believer answer that?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


If we make it June 1st, I'll be SHOCKED!
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ZM? Is that you?
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Nancy`s world and predictions are a naive fallacy. There is no fortune teller out there who has a worse accuracy record than Lieder.
 Quoting: VeritasN1

A 0% success-rate is a statistical anomaly.

Almost as if she's doing it on purpose.
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The truth is in the eye of the beholder.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei

That would imply 7+ billion different truths, and ZetaTalk only being 0.00001% true.

Meanwhile, in grown-up land, there's only one physical reality, the one in which some questions only have yes/no answers.

Like the question: "Has Earth stopped in its orbit?"
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It rots the mind and blackens the heart.


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Nancytalk always was a toilet of lies...

Full of shit...
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If we make it June 1st, I'll be SHOCKED!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36613961

Why June 1st? Nancy claims that "Planet X" will be "undeniable" in the sky five weeks prior to the "pole shift." Considering June 1st is only about 10 weeks out - if there were really a "rogue planet" four times the size of Venus headed towards us, while it might not be "undeniable" in the sky it would still be quite easy to find and see. Naturally, this brings up another interesting thing about believers - NONE of them have EVER gotten a telescope, learned how to use it and then photographed this "planet." Why? If they're SO convinced that Nancy is right - why do they only rely on highly questionable photos? Take Ann S for instance - if you look at her posts, it appears, based on her arrogance, that she can't wait to "rub our noses" in it. So, what's she waiting for? Why not get a telescope or contact a local astronomy group and prove "Planet X" exists! Quit waiting for some announcement to come from Obama because, well, for one thing, that isn't ever going to happen. Why hasn't Nancy ever gotten a telescope? This whole "Planet X Cover Up" could be so incredibly easy to prove if they would just take some time. But, instead, they rely on obfuscation.

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lmao

Since Ann S couldnt find appropiate proof of paid debunkers she went to ask Nancy for some on the last Q&A:
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Reply by ann s. 26 minutes ago

The Zetas have stated people are paid to debunk ZetaTalk. Unfortunately, since such activities are done strictly in secret, it is almost impossible for the average person to prove paid shills even exist.

But a paid shill may have made a critical error at the Godlike Productions (GLP) site on March 24, 2013, as the below article appears to show. The specific post was deleted from GLP, and a topic about it at the ats sucks forum was also removed.

It appears this was not a joke but an extremely rare example of a paid shill caught in the act by revealing paid shill operating instructions not meant for public viewing.

Could the Zetas tell us if someone got careless and provided a smoking gun or actual proof that paid shills do exist?




hehe...I can imagine the lines of Nancy's response...
It will be exactly what Ann S wants to hear..

Of course Nancy will claim it as proof of paid debunkers, while saying people are paid to debunk her BS...

No proof will be offered. It will be loose word as usual.

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Quoting Ann S.

Could the Zetas tell us if someone got careless and provided a smoking gun or actual proof that paid shills do exist?

First of all, Ann, once again the article was NOT removed from the original site. It's still there in the "hoax" section.

But secondly, what difference does it make? According to Nancy the earth is being bobbed up and down by the Zetas to conceal that it is stopped in orbit. If that were true and they were to stop, billions and billions of people would immediately know something was wrong.

So if you believe what Nancy says then the Zetas are far more responsible for deceiving people than a handful of debunkers at GLP.
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Quoting Ann S.

Could the Zetas tell us if someone got careless and provided a smoking gun or actual proof that paid shills do exist?

First of all, Ann, once again the article was NOT removed from the original site. It's still there in the "hoax" section.

But secondly, what difference does it make? According to Nancy the earth is being bobbed up and down by the Zetas to conceal that it is stopped in orbit. If that were true and they were to stop, billions and billions of people would immediately know something was wrong.

So if you believe what Nancy says then the Zetas are far more responsible for deceiving people than a handful of debunkers at GLP.
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BAM! Head shot.
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Hi 74444

our mutual friend AA / IDW is back:


[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Annular Solar Eclipse - January 15, 2010 - Rameshwaram, India
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Hi 74444

our mutual friend AA / IDW is back:


[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

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 Quoting: Hydra


LOL -- wish I had looked here before I stumbled on that thread.

IDW/A.A's absolute statements always make me chuckle.

Thanks for the link.
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In just a short period of time he's already coming unglued.
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"There are no discrepancies in the trajectories of any space probes such as Pioneer 10, Pioneer 11, Voyager 1 and Voyager 2 that can be attributed to the gravitational pull of a large undiscovered object in the outer Solar System."
Littmann (1990), p. 204

You see, that the quote is from 1990 - 5 years before Nancy came up with her PX crap?

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 Quoting: Hydra


He will occasionally stumble over the truth, but just as quickly pick himself up and carry on as if nothing happened, that is the lot of the ning tard.
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yer still alive !!!!...damn.....happy easter...
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I think that this must have been provided purely for amusement......

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Notice Astro's mention...!
 Quoting: Elemental


Gerard -
The Establishment deliberately covered up the presence of Planet X since at least 1983.


quote (1983)
So mysterious is the object that astronomers do not know if it is a planet, a giant comet, a
nearby "protostar" that never got hot enough to become a star, a distant galaxy so young that
it is still in the process of forming its first stars or a galaxy so shrouded in dust that none of the
light cast by its stars ever gets through.

"All I can tell you is that we don't know what it is," Dr. Gerry Neugebauer, IRAS chief
scientist for California's Jet Propulsion Laboratory and director of the Palomar Observatory
for the California Institute of Technology, said in an interview.
end quote
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 37182787


The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue 73, Sunday April 13, 2008
Seeking Planet X -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

[While the IRAS team struggled to explain just what they had found, they were quick to point out that it was not "incoming mail". But how could they say that if they didn't know quite what it was? The quick assurance that the discovery was not "inbound" was a clue that panic was just under the surface. The fear was that the public would panic and make demands on the government, and thus a cover-up was quickly put into place. All talk of the true purpose of the Pioneer probes and those perturbations on outer planets that had been observed for centuries was halted. ]
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


Did any of the ningtards and zetatards ever bother to read these two papers? I bet not.

[link to articles.adsabs.harvard.edu]

[link to www.annualreviews.org]

Note that both papers have Neugebauer as a co-author.

Zetatalk Debunked!
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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The truth is in the eye of the beholder.
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As expected from a "true believer" - avoidance of all facts and failure to answer questions posed.
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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The truth is in the eye of the beholder.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


As expected from a "true believer" - avoidance of all facts and failure to answer questions posed.
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Yeah, I'm still trying to work out how truth can be subjective.......!
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You obviously diidn't notice the word *truthful* there.
 Quoting: Elemental


They usually don't. They only care about speculation and hearsay.
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Do you get double time for "working" on a holiday?
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You obviously diidn't notice the word *truthful* there.
 Quoting: Elemental


They usually don't. They only care about speculation and hearsay.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Do you get double time for "working" on a holiday?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29087050


Do you? Or have Nancy's *donations* dried up due to lack of evidence and interest?
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[prof-rabbit nli]
He will occasionally stumble over the truth, but just as quickly pick himself up and carry on as if nothing happened, that is the lot of the ning tard.
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yer still alive !!!!...damn.....happy easter...


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And a joyful Equinox to yourself, my you always have a spare pack of fruitchocs in the fridge,.
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The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue 73, Sunday April 13, 2008
Seeking Planet X -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

[While the IRAS team struggled to explain just what they had found, they were quick to point out that it was not "incoming mail". But how could they say that if they didn't know quite what it was? The quick assurance that the discovery was not "inbound" was a clue that panic was just under the surface. The fear was that the public would panic and make demands on the government, and thus a cover-up was quickly put into place. All talk of the true purpose of the Pioneer probes and those perturbations on outer planets that had been observed for centuries was halted. ]
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


The IRAS claim has to be the most thoroughly debunked of all the PX "evidence" that continually recycles throughout the years. One has to be willfully ignorant to not recognize that.

[link to www.badastronomy.com]
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The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue 73, Sunday April 13, 2008
Seeking Planet X -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

[While the IRAS team struggled to explain just what they had found, they were quick to point out that it was not "incoming mail". But how could they say that if they didn't know quite what it was? The quick assurance that the discovery was not "inbound" was a clue that panic was just under the surface. The fear was that the public would panic and make demands on the government, and thus a cover-up was quickly put into place. All talk of the true purpose of the Pioneer probes and those perturbations on outer planets that had been observed for centuries was halted. ]
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


The IRAS claim has to be the most thoroughly debunked of all the PX "evidence" that continually recycles throughout the years. One has to be willfully ignorant to not recognize that.

[link to www.badastronomy.com]
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*Wilful ignorance* sums it up succinctly.
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The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue 73, Sunday April 13, 2008
Seeking Planet X -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

[While the IRAS team struggled to explain just what they had found, they were quick to point out that it was not "incoming mail". But how could they say that if they didn't know quite what it was? The quick assurance that the discovery was not "inbound" was a clue that panic was just under the surface. The fear was that the public would panic and make demands on the government, and thus a cover-up was quickly put into place. All talk of the true purpose of the Pioneer probes and those perturbations on outer planets that had been observed for centuries was halted. ]
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


The IRAS claim has to be the most thoroughly debunked of all the PX "evidence" that continually recycles throughout the years. One has to be willfully ignorant to not recognize that.

[link to www.badastronomy.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


Talking about ignorance. Did you read the whole Zetatalk Newsletter link? Your badastronomy (Phil Plait) link is a really cute attempt, you can do better next time. Now quick back into your snail shell, there you are safe and the truth won't hurt you.
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The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue 73, Sunday April 13, 2008
Seeking Planet X -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

[While the IRAS team struggled to explain just what they had found, they were quick to point out that it was not "incoming mail". But how could they say that if they didn't know quite what it was? The quick assurance that the discovery was not "inbound" was a clue that panic was just under the surface. The fear was that the public would panic and make demands on the government, and thus a cover-up was quickly put into place. All talk of the true purpose of the Pioneer probes and those perturbations on outer planets that had been observed for centuries was halted. ]
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


The IRAS claim has to be the most thoroughly debunked of all the PX "evidence" that continually recycles throughout the years. One has to be willfully ignorant to not recognize that.

[link to www.badastronomy.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


Talking about ignorance. Did you read the whole Zetatalk Newsletter link? Your badastronomy (Phil Plait) link is a really cute attempt, you can do better next time. Now quick back into your snail shell, there you are safe and the truth won't hurt you.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei



How about you read this link;

[link to docs.google.com (secure)]

and this one;

[link to website.lineone.net]
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Talking about ignorance. Did you read the whole Zetatalk Newsletter link? Your badastronomy (Phil Plait) link is a really cute attempt, you can do better next time. Now quick back into your snail shell, there you are safe and the truth won't hurt you.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


Somewhere out there is a tree, tirelessly producing oxygen so you can breathe. I think you owe it an apology. I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public again.
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Talking about ignorance. Did you read the whole Zetatalk Newsletter link? Your badastronomy (Phil Plait) link is a really cute attempt, you can do better next time. Now quick back into your snail shell, there you are safe and the truth won't hurt you.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


Somewhere out there is a tree, tirelessly producing oxygen so you can breathe. I think you owe it an apology. I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public again.
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It's ok, the tree will exhale co2 tonight and get it's own back lol! It must be a lack of oxygen causing the zeta madness!
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The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue 73, Sunday April 13, 2008
Seeking Planet X -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

[While the IRAS team struggled to explain just what they had found, they were quick to point out that it was not "incoming mail". But how could they say that if they didn't know quite what it was? The quick assurance that the discovery was not "inbound" was a clue that panic was just under the surface. The fear was that the public would panic and make demands on the government, and thus a cover-up was quickly put into place. All talk of the true purpose of the Pioneer probes and those perturbations on outer planets that had been observed for centuries was halted. ]
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


The IRAS claim has to be the most thoroughly debunked of all the PX "evidence" that continually recycles throughout the years. One has to be willfully ignorant to not recognize that.

[link to www.badastronomy.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


Talking about ignorance. Did you read the whole Zetatalk Newsletter link? Your badastronomy (Phil Plait) link is a really cute attempt, you can do better next time. Now quick back into your snail shell, there you are safe and the truth won't hurt you.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei



How about you read this link;

[link to docs.google.com (secure)]

and this one;

[link to website.lineone.net]
 Quoting: Elemental


Cmon Elemental, this is not your level, is it? CoS's link contains everything that it necessary to understand what happened back then, how things work. A perfect example how to drag someone out the dedicated team at the [link to poleshift.ning.com.] I recommend everybody to read his document up and down at least 5 times and then read [link to www.zetatalk.com] and [link to poleshift.ning.com] open minded and with your heart.

In fact his document is one of the most important document ever mentioned on this thread, in my opinion.

His first thought was formed against the Zetas's message and he was out, quickly and precisely and still having no idea what actually happend to him.
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I actually am struggling to find appropriate words; this is *not my level*? which level might that be? The level that actually requires a modicum of evidence before taking a totally blind, uneducated & ignorant leap of faith? Honestly, I am speechless. Also, please don't try to demean anyone in my eyes, it makes you look bad, not them.
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Talking about ignorance. Did you read the whole Zetatalk Newsletter link? Your badastronomy (Phil Plait) link is a really cute attempt, you can do better next time. Now quick back into your snail shell, there you are safe and the truth won't hurt you.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


Here's a short article by Tom Chester who was part of the original IRAS team:

[link to web.archive.org]
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The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue 73, Sunday April 13, 2008
Seeking Planet X -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

 Quoting: Panta Rhei


From your linked ZetaTalk:

Enter ZetaTalk in 1995, with its explicit instructions on where folks could look in the night sky to see the inbound Planet X.


Except, of course, that "Planet X" never appeared at those coordinates as even Nancy supporters had to admit in 2003.

Ever wonder why Nancy doesn't provide "explicit" coordinates anymore for where to see Planet X?
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You also have no idea what happened to you. Nancy brainwashed your empty head and your actions speak louder than your religious lament. When you are in a cult you lose every connection to reality. It is a real shame that your cult mentions that old IRAS report from 1983 which was debunked several times. But a cult like Zetatalk uses blatant lies and dirty tricks of manipulation.
When we are talking about important links you shouldn`t forget my summary about Nancytalk which describes the cult probably the best.

[link to beyoubefree.runboard.com]

This document would even be very important for the last few cult followers. They can translate it with a google translator. It shows some real facts about Nancy`s criminal cult, a long story of abuse, religious fanaticism and many innocent victims. We are speaking here of both human and animal victims. As nothing new happens the cultists can only repeat themselves and wait for something that doesn`t exist. So it is no wonder that our hillbilly here is copying endless old Zetababble which is Nancybabble of course. And as no Nibiru exists it is all wasted time, no matter how long they wait or what crazy stories Nancy is inventing respective stealing.

The funny thing is that the cult zealots are still always expecting a kind of announcement of Obama who probably has never heard of Nancytalk and the last few bigots. Nancy should have quit her career as a fortune teller back in 1995 when she made her little Hale-Bopp hoax. All the hoaxes that followed were even worse. Today you can read many April`s fool jokes. When you are a follower of crazy Nancy all your life suddenly consists out of Aprils`s fool jokes (and that 365 days a year).
Here you can read again the announcement the NASA made about Nancytalk or the idea of Nibiru. These are facts everybody with some astronomic background can easily verify. Of course you will fail if you have the astronomic knowledge of an old housewife from Wisconsin.

And there are not only astronomers in the USA as Nancy often seems to think. You will find astronomers - both professionals and amateurs - all around the world: and they will all tell you the same.
You are a part of the truth as long as you mention it!


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