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[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Alberto: 4/01 11:50 What Should I Think?

Nancy's Comment: I know this is not an April Fools day joke, knowing Alberto. This appears to be a photo without filters, letting the clouds dim the glare of the Sun. There are Moon Swirl orbs on all sides of the Sun, at the 1 o'clock, the 10:00 o'clock, and the 4 o'clock. The wafting tail to the left is also faintly visible, lighting the clouds somewhat.


lmao:

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like everwhere..and nowhere.

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"People hate the truth, luckily the truth doesn't care."
Author of "Zeta Talk exposed": [link to novnet.org]
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Ann Eller [link to poleshift.ning.com] so, are you a paid shill?
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[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
Add her as a friend, you know you want to.
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[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Alberto: 4/01 11:50 What Should I Think?

Nancy's Comment: I know this is not an April Fools day joke, knowing Alberto. This appears to be a photo without filters, letting the clouds dim the glare of the Sun. There are Moon Swirl orbs on all sides of the Sun, at the 1 o'clock, the 10:00 o'clock, and the 4 o'clock. The wafting tail to the left is also faintly visible, lighting the clouds somewhat.


lmao:

bsmeter

like everwhere..and nowhere.

n8
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Yet, it never transits or eclipses the Sun at all. Amazingly fortunate.

I'm *so* glad all the Zeta nonsense timed out so nicely for the two earlier Venus transits -- reality spoke quite loudly with those. It's a pity we won't see those again for about a century, as the transits were more breathtaking and beautiful than any claims of Nancy Lieder and company.

I suppose they'll just keep waiting and making excuses. They have lots of practice.
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Oh ann, this is so much fun, I wish I had all day to search, alas, I only have breaks every now and then.
what do we have here? an article that could also be about Nancy Lieder.




Not that the conference has proven restrained in speculative leaps till now, what with an early presentation by a woman named Ann Eller, who told of her “praying mantis” spirit guide, her visions of extraterrestrial hieroglyphs, and her ability to sense the shape of the UFOs above us with but the power of her intuitive mind alone. Severely limiting her time as a prognosticator, but in keeping with the conference’s catastrophic millenarian subplot, Eller advised us that the end will likely come even before the much-publicized end of the Mayan calendar in 2012… though she finds credibility in the 2012 doomsday theory that states that a hidden planet, Planet X, “Niburu”, will bring upon The End when it collides with Earth
[link to www.process.org]


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One quick search of Ann Ellers [link to dragoninthesky.com] I was gobsmacked to see she has a book for sale, not.
Money, money, money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36891797


Will Anne take over as the apex-fruitcake when Nancy goes to the octopus's garden in the sky?

"An incredible contact experience in Laramie, Wyoming left Ann with a message to tell the world."
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And a pic of the woman herself, it is nice to see who we are being belittled by. [link to dragoninthesky.com]
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Facebook too !

[link to www.facebook.com]
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Talking about ignorance. Did you read the whole Zetatalk Newsletter link? Your badastronomy (Phil Plait) link is a really cute attempt, you can do better next time. Now quick back into your snail shell, there you are safe and the truth won't hurt you.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


Somewhere out there is a tree, tirelessly producing oxygen so you can breathe. I think you owe it an apology. I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public again.
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wabbit how the hell r u.....got any grey on that cotton tail???

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Yes, my beard turns a shade greyer every time the high school calls about my son :) :)
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The ZetaTalk Newsletter
Issue 73, Sunday April 13, 2008
Seeking Planet X -> [link to www.zetatalk.com]

 Quoting: Panta Rhei


From your linked ZetaTalk:

Enter ZetaTalk in 1995, with its explicit instructions on where folks could look in the night sky to see the inbound Planet X.


Except, of course, that "Planet X" never appeared at those coordinates as even Nancy supporters had to admit in 2003.

Ever wonder why Nancy doesn't provide "explicit" coordinates anymore for where to see Planet X?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13806508


Do you mean those coordinates where Nancy had no clue as to what they meant?
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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The truth is in the eye of the beholder.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


As expected from a "true believer" - avoidance of all facts and failure to answer questions posed.
 Quoting: bob_909


Yeah, I'm still trying to work out how truth can be subjective.......!
 Quoting: Elemental


Let me help you. Hypothetically, I may think you are a bitch but that doesn't mean that you are now does it?? So therefore my truth may be different to someone else's truth AKA subjectivity :D

I may say the sky is blue as an objective fact, but what about to some one who is color blind??

I think u get the point
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No, the only point that I'm getting is that you appear to fail to see the difference between perception and facts. When you get that little conundrum sorted out you may start to see life more clearly.
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Marshall Masters also describes the dangerous cult of Nancy Lieder and Lieder`s long history of scamming people.



Nancy Lieder`s little cult is done. Game over. But she gets more and more violent, aggressive and desperate in these days.
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[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Alberto: 4/01 11:50 What Should I Think?

Nancy's Comment: I know this is not an April Fools day joke, knowing Alberto. This appears to be a photo without filters, letting the clouds dim the glare of the Sun. There are Moon Swirl orbs on all sides of the Sun, at the 1 o'clock, the 10:00 o'clock, and the 4 o'clock. The wafting tail to the left is also faintly visible, lighting the clouds somewhat.


lmao:

bsmeter

like everwhere..and nowhere.

n8
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Yet, it never transits or eclipses the Sun at all. Amazingly fortunate.

I'm *so* glad all the Zeta nonsense timed out so nicely for the two earlier Venus transits -- reality spoke quite loudly with those. It's a pity we won't see those again for about a century, as the transits were more breathtaking and beautiful than any claims of Nancy Lieder and company.

Soon and VERY SOON!
I suppose they'll just keep waiting and making excuses. They have lots of practice.
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Marshall Masters also describes the dangerous cult of Nancy Lieder and Lieder`s long history of scamming people.



Nancy Lieder`s little cult is done. Game over. But she gets more and more violent, aggressive and desperate in these days.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37285615


I love a good kOOkfight.

Masters and Lieder are trolling for the same, ever diminishing number of, dimwitted PXtards.

My money's on Ninny due to her proven tenacity in the face of astounding failure. Masters can't make money on any one scam for very long before he has to move on to the next doomtastic fantasy.

Both are obsessed with lens flares so maybe they can reach a meeting of the no-minds.


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This says everything,

"Alberto: 4/01 11:50 What Should I Think?"

"I cannot think for myself"

"Tell me how to think"
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So Ann Ellers worked with J. Allen Hynek and in the Whitehouse with Bill Clinton, and here she is telling it like it is for all with the ears to listen. I trust her opinion more than anyone or all of the Debunkers put together.



Robert Dean, another whistleblower.. "Dean retired from the US Army as a command sergeant major after a 28 year career."
[link to en.wikipedia.org]



Now to all the people out there.... Who would you trust??

A bunch of sneaky rat debunkers or these people who have worked with very important people and are putting them selves out there to tell the truth, openly and candidly, not hiding behind there computer screens??
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Thank you for bringing up these videos. I appreciate it!
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Marshall Masters also describes the dangerous cult of Nancy Lieder and Lieder`s long history of scamming people.



Nancy Lieder`s little cult is done. Game over. But she gets more and more violent, aggressive and desperate in these days.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37285615


I love a good kOOkfight.

Masters and Lieder are trolling for the same, ever diminishing number of, dimwitted PXtards.

My money's on Ninny due to her proven tenacity in the face of astounding failure. Masters can't make money on any one scam for very long before he has to move on to the next doomtastic fantasy.

Both are obsessed with lens flares so maybe they can reach a meeting of the no-minds.


R.
 Quoting: R 9938203


The intentions of Masters seem to be honest here. And he sums it up well. He wants to give good-hearted people a warning of Nancy`s cult. He compares Nancy`s talk with the verbiage of a cult leader.

Masters looks very concerned about Nancy`s latest attacks. She is even damning people. He seems to think that Lieder is a very dangerous individual and gives the advice to stay far away from her.
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The funny thing is that Lieder accuses Masters of depicting lenseflares. Her own page consists of lenseflares.
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Masters has some good points in the video, especially the one about the white lie vs Nancy telling people that once a lie is told people shouldn't believe anything. Still, Masters isn't exactly a paragon of truth and rationality. Kook fight indeed!
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I guess Masters realized that Nancy is running amok at the moment, bet he wanted to give people a warning before it is too late

Well investigated piece of work of Marshal. Is interesting how dramatically Nancy changed her story bout 2003 within the years.

Bad for Nancy Marshal is wiping the floor with her and her lies. +1000, +1000 banana2
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cool a bitchfight between two charlatans
popcorn
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Marshall Masters meets Nancy Lieder (ROUND ONE)
The battle of the charlatans lol
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Marshall Masters meets Nancy Lieder (ROUND ONE)
The battle of the charlatans lol

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Lol!
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ROUND II

Mixed Martial Arts Marshal vs Ninja Nancy
Whose Nibiru is bigger? lolsign
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cool a bitchfight between two charlatans
popcorn
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You sharin' that popcorn bro? Lol!
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The intentions of Masters seem to be honest here. And he sums it up well. He wants to give good-hearted people a warning of Nancy`s cult. He compares Nancy`s talk with the verbiage of a cult leader.

Masters looks very concerned about Nancy`s latest attacks. She is even damning people. He seems to think that Lieder is a very dangerous individual and gives the advice to stay far away from her.
tomato
The funny thing is that Lieder accuses Masters of depicting lenseflares. Her own page consists of lenseflares.
 Quoting: Will 36498812



and -

I guess Masters realized that Nancy is running amok at the moment, bet he wanted to give people a warning before it is too late

Well investigated piece of work of Marshal. Is interesting how dramatically Nancy changed her story bout 2003 within the years.

Bad for Nancy Marshal is wiping the floor with her and her lies. +1000, +1000
 Quoting: Pathak User ID:37294780


There is nothing "honest" about Masters, IMO, and he obviously is "very concerned about Nancy's latest attacks."
She is warning off his potential customers and he is fighting back.
i.e. - kOOkfight.

Before this attack he was pretty friendly with Lieder and seemed completely unconcerned with her virulent attacks on rational scientists and individuals.
Considering he has an history of the same kooky behaviour this should come as no surprise.
Now that his ox is being gored he's gone all "debunker" on her in self interest.
I consider him to be just as vile as Lieder and his history would back me up.

Here's a small example of the benovolent Mr. Masters from 2001:
[link to tech.groups.yahoo.com]
This stems from one of his well known hoaxes of the past wherein he and his idiotic minions developed the fantasy that comet 76P would/had knocked Phobos out of its orbit into a collision course with earth.
He had been a writer for TMG but had recently started his YOWUSA site so he was doing a lot of cross-publishing of his lunacy.
His "physicist" partner, Jacko van der Twerp, had even done the (farcical) "calculations" demonstrating the coming DOOM!!!!!!!!

As you can see, they then did the tried-and-true method of druimming up interest in their loondrool --- spamming BBs and newsgroups.
Ol' Marsh was upset that scientists laughed at and ignored him, or worse, scathingly debunked him.
'How dare they!'
Well, when you're a notorious TMG net-kook the best you can hope for is that they take your screeds and toss them into the circular file - /dev/null.
If you push it they will tell you just how big an ignoramus you are.
Don't kid yourself, his modus operandi and demeanor is the same as Nancy's and he has an history of kOOkery almost as long as Lieder's.

This is purely self-interest of the monetary kind.
Mustn't tolerate a threat to page-hits, clicks, and sales.
As I said, they're after the same demographic... the terminally credulous ignoramus and the insane.

And I note neither of you have more than 2 posts in the last year...
You don't happen to be Marshall Masters shills, are you?
If not I apologize for my being suspicious.


and -

Masters has some good points in the video, especially the one about the white lie vs Nancy telling people that once a lie is told people shouldn't believe anything. Still, Masters isn't exactly a paragon of truth and rationality. Kook fight indeed!
 Quoting: AC10422385 AKA: KIR


Exactly KIR, but see my above statement. MM is no better than Lieder and in some ways worse.
Ninny never tried to make a business out of ZetaTalk even though she wasn't above grubbing for a few tens of thousands of $$ per year.
IMO, MM is much more demented and cynical in that he will originate, develop, and disseminate an hoax, frightening the gullible, with the primary purpose of generating income.


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Here's a small example of the benovolent Mr. Masters from 2001:
[link to tech.groups.yahoo.com]
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Wow, what a jackass. Thanks for that, that incident pre-dates my experience as a debunker.
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Here's a small example of the benevolent Mr. Masters from 2001:
[link to tech.groups.yahoo.com]
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Wow, what a jackass. Thanks for that, that incident pre-dates my experience as a debunker.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Yep. Just Google "Marshall Masters" Phobos and read the non-kook sites.

IIRC two of his minions joined the Minor Planet Mailing List (mpml) and spammed his hoax pretending to be advanced amateurs and innocently imaging Mars with a 25"? scope only to find Phobos missing.

Of course being ignoramuses puffed up with the typical arrogant ignorance, they thought they could outsmart the scientists and advanced amateurs (such as yourself).

They were quickly found out when they produced "images" which were found to be falsified. They were ejected and banned from the group, of course. Something about scientists detesting intellectual liars...

Remind you of anybody?
(Astrolpatroit/00skyview)

I may have some of the details in error as I wasn't involved in that fiasco and I more and more find myself suffering from half-heimers, as opposed to alls-heimers.

Have fun.


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And to any kOOks reading this:

What makes you think that any scientist gives a damn about what you think or want?

Masters was demanding that they turn the HST to Mars and acquire new images of Mars' moons to prove they were there, as well as any and all astronomers with scopes.

He was quite indignant that nobody responded to his lunatic ravings.

Here's a clue...
They don't even know you exist, nor do they care.

If you email them they will glance at it and say to themselves, "Oh, another schizophrenic who removed his tin-foil helmet just long enough to send his insane screed to me. /dev/null"

The only scientists who will give you the time of day are the ones who will slap you around just for the lulz.
(Not to be interpreted as rejection of honest citizens who are checking their facts before buying into the hoax you are promoting. They will get a polite and informative reply.)


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Ann Eller [link to poleshift.ning.com] so, are you a paid shill?
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There are two Anns:

Ann Eller (Sedona, AZ) and Ann S. (Plano, TX). Ann S. is the mouthy one who is so damn paranoid about us supposedly "paid debunkers".
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Ann Eller [link to poleshift.ning.com] so, are you a paid shill?
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There are two Anns:

Ann Eller (Sedona, AZ) and Ann S. (Plano, TX). Ann S. is the mouthy one who is so damn paranoid about us supposedly "paid debunkers".
 Quoting: bob_909


You know, what with the current kOOk death-match playing out, it would be insidious if some debunker who had a membership to the ning were to egg Ninny on in her battle with Masters.

Point out where he's posting slanderous diatribes against ZetaTalk, etc. and she shouldn't stand for it. Once she gets going and sinks her teeth into a perceived enemy she is like a manic pit bull.
They wouldn't ban you, they would applaud you for being a fine, upstanding member looking out for Ninny's welfare.

That wouldn't be kosher though, would it?
And since her minions who are banned seem to read this thread I just let the cat out of the bag so they would ban you after their short-circuited brains finally figured it out.
(snicker)

Have fun.


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