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The purpose of this thread was to discuss the validity or invalidity of Nancy's claims. And I thought that any of Nancy's supporters were welcome here if they actually wanted to engage in discussion. But the last couple of pages have been nothing but a war of words.



I guess there arn't that many of Nancy's supporters left, and those left are entrenched, unwilling to discuss much.

I'm here to discuss things, just not a supporter any more.

Been waiting for a conversation to start, not too interested in the Are so, Am not, or the dog food jokes.

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I agree. It happens every time we engage Max. The thread goes off topic into silliness. Max does this on purpose, to distract from the purpose of this thread which is to give debunkers a place to counter the bullcrap and lies that Nancy posts on her thread, to expose her failing cult for what it is. He would prefer that we go back and forth making petty accusations at each other because we stop discussing anything of substance. Max, Nancy and her little crew of supporters have nothing of substance to counter our observations, so it is in their best interest to bait us banter. I made the mistake a few pages back of replying to something Max said. I should know better.
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... discuss nancys claims is hard, because people like ZataMax are are not willing to discuss.
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Maxie used to be, but he got his ass handed to him so many times that he just went to mostly word-games, taunts and insipid baiting.
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I am respecting the boycott this week ... lets see how many pages Nancy will get ... I say no more than 5 ... her ship is sinking fast.
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Nancy must hate this thread's continued existence (and popularity), and that's good enough for me!

:5:
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:boycott1:....And the real fact of the matter is that the posters who can actually discuss real astronomical stuff, in particular, are participants on this thread. They know their stuff and have debunked/schooled Ms LIEDer and her bunkers each and every time for the past several years. Without constant debunker involvement in Nancy's chat thread, even though we still comment on her chat posts over here now and then, the reality has hit Nancy's chat thread like a destructive passing of a long lost rogue planet. Nancy has been reduced to basically a two hour cut 'n' paste session about all manner of stuff, with the attendance of a loyal few GLPer bunkers, which is hardly the target worldwide audience that Ms LIEDer so desperately craves these days :Ha: .

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I agree. It happens every time we engage Max. The thread goes off topic into silliness. Max does this on purpose, to distract from the purpose of this thread which is to give debunkers a place to counter the bullcrap and lies that Nancy posts on her thread, to expose her failing cult for what it is. He would prefer that we go back and forth making petty accusations at each other because we stop discussing anything of substance. Max, Nancy and her little crew of supporters have nothing of substance to counter our observations, so it is in their best interest to bait us banter. I made the mistake a few pages back of replying to something Max said. I should know better.
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I think you are taking it all a bit too seriously!
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I am respecting the boycott this week ... lets see how many pages Nancy will get ... I say no more than 5 ... her ship is sinking fast.
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Welcome aboard.

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Nancy must hate this thread's continued existence (and popularity), and that's good enough for me!

:5:


:boycott1:....And the real fact of the matter is that the posters who can actually discuss real astronomical stuff, in particular, are participants on this thread. They know their stuff and have debunked/schooled Ms LIEDer and her bunkers each and every time for the past several years. Without constant debunker involvement in Nancy's chat thread, even though we still comment on her chat posts over here now and then, the reality has hit Nancy's chat thread like a destructive passing of a long lost rogue planet. Nancy has been reduced to basically a two hour cut 'n' paste session about all manner of stuff, with the attendance of a loyal few GLPer bunkers, which is hardly the target worldwide audience that Ms LIEDer so desperately craves these days :Ha: .
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Yes, I have found this thread consistently interesting AND entertaining! You can't say that about any ZetaTalk thread, at least not these days, since it has all become rather stale.

I think Nancy needs to pull a big rabbit out of the hat.
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Some of his responses have been rather silly to me...even downright impossible even - such as his suggestion that the "Zetas" were screening memories so no one would notice that the Earth was halted.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


lol4me Sometimes revision is a good thing eh. I mean even your example above, CB, reminded me about just how real silly and illogical some of Nancy's past assertions have been. It is truly hilarious at times to remember just some of the excuses for Failure that Ms LIEDer has previously come up with.
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:lol4me: Sometimes revision is a good thing eh. I mean even your example above, CB, reminded me about just how real silly and illogical some of Nancy's past assertions have been. It is truly hilarious at times to remember just some of the excuses for Failure that Ms LIEDer has previously come up with.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


I am personally particularly interested in the psychology of gullibility! What is it that makes people capable of suspending all intelligence in order to believe some ridiculous nonsense? I think it's an important question that humanity needs to address, before erroneous belief systems wipe us all out.
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I think Nancy needs to pull a big rabbit out of the hat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 774960


Yep we were anticipating that Nancy would come up with a Great White Lie 2 as the year 2012 approached, considering that we have Nancy on record as stating that the arrival of her rogue planet would be way before 2012, yet as has been pointed out previously it would appear that Nancy has already started making excuses for a continual "No Show" of her rogue planet before 2012.

I do not remember the exact excuse that she has hinted at, for a pre 2012 "No Show", but maybe someone can refresh my memory.
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I am personally particularly interested in the psychology of gullibility! What is it that makes people capable of suspending all intelligence in order to believe some ridiculous nonsense? I think it's an important question that humanity needs to address, before erroneous belief systems wipe us all out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 774960


Prof Rabbit was gathering data on this type of subject and internet cults in general, I think. He would be the one to discuss this.
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I agree. It happens every time we engage Max. The thread goes off topic into silliness. Max does this on purpose, to distract from the purpose of this thread which is to give debunkers a place to counter the bullcrap and lies that Nancy posts on her thread, to expose her failing cult for what it is.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553451


Failed, might be a better term.
i think it's beyond just "failing".

Deflection. distraction, or diversion does tend to take any thread off-topic.

He would prefer that we go back and forth making petty accusations at each other because we stop discussing anything of substance.Max, Nancy and her little crew of supporters have nothing of substance to counter our observations, so it is in their best interest to bait us banter.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553451


There is little occuring of any substance to indicate new objects close to earth. Geologic and astronomic evidence for PX is not here. So what else do you talk about?

I made the mistake a few pages back of replying to something Max said. I should know better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 553451


We all make mistakes ;o)

ZetaMax strikes me as a young person, who has built an online story about himself and now finds himself exposed as not what he has said he is.
Caught in a web of lies.

I do see a bit of symbiotic relationship between ZT followers and debunkers in that, after all these years, the continuing "debate" is a reason to get up in the morning :o)
What will you do when it's over?

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From Nancy's thread tonight. Nancy does the backstroke:

"Zetas stated there would not be any swine flu pandemic proclaimed, but it was proclaimed ! Any comments ?

SOZT
When we made the statement, we were assuming that a mild flu, one milder than the normal seasonal flu, would not result in a pandemic proclamation. We underestimated the fear factor, and those in charge at WHO are fearful that another Frankenstein monster will be unleashed, as we noted in prior chats. These matters are in the hands of man, and cannot be predicted thus with accuracy, as we have frequently explained.
EOZT
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Zetas wrong again. You can twist it Nancy, but as always, you were WRONG. If it is a matter that is in the hands of man, why bother to make a prediction? The constant failed predictions of the Zetas do nothing for their credibility.
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im unbanned!
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Well after all Ms LIEDer needs all the extra posts she can muster these days!!

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lol4me Sometimes revision is a good thing eh. I mean even your example above, CB, reminded me about just how real silly and illogical some of Nancy's past assertions have been. It is truly hilarious at times to remember just some of the excuses for Failure that Ms LIEDer has previously come up with.


I am personally particularly interested in the psychology of gullibility! What is it that makes people capable of suspending all intelligence in order to believe some ridiculous nonsense? I think it's an important question that humanity needs to address, before erroneous belief systems wipe us all out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 774960


Sooo.... where do I sign up?

Erroneous belief systems have been around for awhile.
If things are left alone we will always have the gullible.
Unless we want to get into programming people.
And then, whose program do we use?

Having said that;

I would point out that the "debunker" groups (on this and other forums)are a strong force on the Internet that keeps us all real.

Regards
JWD
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From Nancy's thread tonight. Nancy does the backstroke:

"Zetas stated there would not be any swine flu pandemic proclaimed, but it was proclaimed ! Any comments ?

SOZT
When we made the statement, we were assuming that a mild flu, one milder than the normal seasonal flu, would not result in a pandemic proclamation. We underestimated the fear factor, and those in charge at WHO are fearful that another Frankenstein monster will be unleashed, as we noted in prior chats. These matters are in the hands of man, and cannot be predicted thus with accuracy, as we have frequently explained.
EOZT
"

Zetas wrong again. You can twist it Nancy, but as always, you were WRONG. If it is a matter that is in the hands of man, why bother to make a prediction? The constant failed predictions of the Zetas do nothing for their credibility.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


"These matters are in the hands of man, and cannot be predicted thus with accuracy, as we have frequently explained."

...Translation......"I, Nancy, suck at making predictions, and as I have been frequently totally inaccurate when making such claims, I must invoke such a lame excuse to cover up my embarrassment at being totally wrong all the time."

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Nancy is banning people in force now who mention the dog story ... happened to me several times now.

HEr thread today is half filled with the dog stuff by some poster (not me) ... people comment it all the time ... without it hear thread would not be more than 3 or 4 pages rigght now.
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We cannot hold your hand on every issue you wonder about!
EOZT


lol4me "We"!!

So who exactly is "We" again?

Intelligent ETs?......well it is obvious after all these years that the answer to that is a big fat Nope!!

Which leaves only a select few other choices.

Loneranger
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lol4me Oops I hit that shitty zeta thread by mistake!!
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Sooo.... where do I sign up?

Erroneous belief systems have been around for awhile.
If things are left alone we will always have the gullible.
Unless we want to get into programming people.
And then, whose program do we use?

 Quoting: J.William Dell


Intelligence. Gullible people switch it off for some reason (I suspect they WANT to believe).
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Nancy is banning people in force now who mention the dog story ... happened to me several times now.

HEr thread today is half filled with the dog stuff by some poster (not me) ... people comment it all the time ... without it hear thread would not be more than 3 or 4 pages rigght now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 772234


Actually even though Loneranger doesn't really mention Nancy's doggy stuff these days I don't see much difference between posters bringing the doggy stuff up and Ms LIEDer's continual rantings about her totally debunked and fraudulent claims.
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If he posts something in an attempt to explain any failures Nancy has, or tries to clarify anything she says...let him. It doesn't mean it's correct. Some of his responses have been rather silly to me...even downright impossible even - such as his suggestion that the "Zetas" were screening memories so no one would notice that the Earth was halted. Whether he's actually serious or not...who knows. My personal opinion is that he isn't when he makes claims like that. But let him say it. I'll just kindly disagree with it and state why I disagree with it.
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Yeah, and even the "Zetas" denied that one, so he abandoned it for the most part.

Heh...
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Nancy is banning people in force now who mention the dog story ... happened to me several times now.

HEr thread today is half filled with the dog stuff by some poster (not me) ... people comment it all the time ... without it hear thread would not be more than 3 or 4 pages rigght now.


Actually even though Loneranger doesn't really mention Nancy's doggy stuff these days I don't see much difference between posters bringing the doggy stuff up and Ms LIEDer's continual rantings about her totally debunked and fraudulent claims.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


You have a point.

It doesn't matter what garbage you throw in a dumpster either.

JWD
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Nancy is banning people in force now who mention the dog story ... happened to me several times now.

HEr thread today is half filled with the dog stuff by some poster (not me) ... people comment it all the time ... without it hear thread would not be more than 3 or 4 pages rigght now.


Actually even though :Loneranger: doesn't really mention Nancy's doggy stuff these days I don't see much difference between posters bringing the doggy stuff up and Ms LIEDer's continual rantings about her totally :debunked: and fraudulent claims.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Its the only way I can handle her bullshit claims ... I mean, you cant seriously discuss this total bullshit she brings up every week. Also it makes her threads harder to read and it might scare of newcomers right away ... thats why if somebody had a post like "hello Im new here" the first thing I do is to post the dog story, so he wont even think of following Nancy.
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Its the only way I can handle her bullshit claims ... I mean, you cant seriously discuss this total bullshit she brings up every week. Also it makes her threads harder to read and it might scare of newcomers right away ... thats why if somebody had a post like "hello Im new here" the first thing I do is to post the dog story, so he wont even think of following Nancy.
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I think everyone should just leave her threads alone. All the 'dog' crap is getting a bit much. I'm beginning to think Nancy is spamming her own threads with 'dog crap' in order to give her something to moan about.
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Nancy hater!


Fuck yeah ... I hate her with every bone of my body !
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Well at least you are being honest.

Personally I find the word hate towards Nancy LIEDer a little too strong for myself though.

I mean you are entitled to "voice" your feelings and opinions, Imo, as these are above my personal concerns on GLP. That's why we have our Moderators to decide what is acceptable and what is not.

For me I can categorically state that Ms LIEDer has never affected my life in any negative way. But as for others I have come to know that the opposite is indeed true. We have even had examples here on GLP where the false claims of zetatalk in 2003 had a direct devastating result on the life of people who fell bigtime for Nancy's fraud.

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Nancy hater!


Fuck yeah ... I hate her with every bone of my body !


Well at least you are being honest.

Personally though I find the word hate towards Nancy LIEDer a little too strong for myself though.

I mean you are entitled to "voice" your feelings and opinions, Imo, as these are above my personal concerns on GLP. That's why we have our Moderators to decide what is acceptable and what is not.

For me I can categorically state that Ms LIEDer has never affected my life in any negative way. But as for others I have come to know that the opposite is indeed true. We have even had examples here on GLP where the false claims of zetatalk in 2003 had a direct devastating result on the life of people who fell bigtime for Nancy's fraud.

:Loneranger:
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I agree. Hate is much too strong a word, and is a highly negative emotion in any case. I don't even particularly dislike Nancy, but I do disagree with her attempts to create a cult based on what I regard as fake messages from non-existent aliens.

If you find yourself hating Nancy I think you need to address some issues within yourself.
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I agree. It happens every time we engage Max. The thread goes off topic into silliness. Max does this on purpose, to distract from the purpose of this thread which is to give debunkers a place to counter the bullcrap and lies that Nancy posts on her thread, to expose her failing cult for what it is. He would prefer that we go back and forth making petty accusations at each other because we stop discussing anything of substance. Max, Nancy and her little crew of supporters have nothing of substance to counter our observations, so it is in their best interest to bait us banter. I made the mistake a few pages back of replying to something Max said. I should know better.


I think you are taking it all a bit too seriously!
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Then you don't know the history involved.
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Intelligence. Gullible people switch it off for some reason (I suspect they WANT to believe).


I've read something recently (I think on Digg) that mentions
a study showing how most cult members are intelligent and
thoughtful people. It is a strong sense for a need to belong
that pulls them in and keeps them, especially once they form
bonds with their fellow cult members.
 Quoting: DrPostman


Exactly. They over-ride their intelligence in order to get the 'fringe-benefits' of being in the cult. Other priorities stop them being rational.
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I agree. It happens every time we engage Max. The thread goes off topic into silliness. Max does this on purpose, to distract from the purpose of this thread which is to give debunkers a place to counter the bullcrap and lies that Nancy posts on her thread, to expose her failing cult for what it is. He would prefer that we go back and forth making petty accusations at each other because we stop discussing anything of substance. Max, Nancy and her little crew of supporters have nothing of substance to counter our observations, so it is in their best interest to bait us banter. I made the mistake a few pages back of replying to something Max said. I should know better.


I think you are taking it all a bit too seriously!


Then you don't know the history involved.
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Oh yes I do. I've been reading ZetaTalk since 2001.

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