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So Ann Ellers worked with J. Allen Hynek and in the Whitehouse with Bill Clinton,
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She worked for Hynek for six months and was a White House volunteer.
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Whenever I hear the name Marshall Masters today I have to smile. He is the reason why I`m here. It was in February 2009, I was bored, drank a beer and searched for some interesting clips on youtube.

So I hit on one of Masters Nibiru reports. I must admit that my astronomic background knowledge at that time was very lousy. I was more or less an easy victim and I was fascinated. And this not only a little bit. For the next five weeks I really developed a little paranoia. Of course I also was a bloody amateur in cameras and so I proudly rushed into the lenseflare traps. I joined some Nibiru boards and started to collect more and more information. I was so convinced of doing the right thing. Debunkers had a real hard time with me on some German boards because I`m an excellent writer. I attacked here and attacked there: and was still so proud of it thinking I did the right thing. With some stupid rhetoric you can avoid astronomic topics and I was damn good at it. So Masters really got me at that point.

Sooner or later I also came across some of the stories of Nancy Lieder which completely contradicted the “astronomic concepts” of Marshall Masters. This was a nogo for me, but I also got a little bit suspicious because these stories sounded very fantastic and unreal. But how do you sort it out?

So I started reading astronomic books and essays. When I read I`m not the normal consumer. I want to know it all in short time. I also read some well-known astronomers and their opinion about that topic. At that time I had already invested around 2000 bucks in weapons and other stuff for my survival. The more I read and the longer I was sitting the darker got the cloud over my head. I knew I got a victim. I was an April Fool`s victim for nearly two months. Besides that I also saw the other people in the communities I was in and they were apparently victims too. Everybody there was in the big 2012-hype and Nibiru-flush. I was not amused. So I wanted to share my new astronomic knowledge with them, but suddenly many of them thought I was a "debunker". I could say whatever I wanted, I was banned and so on and that often for no real reason. I just told them the truth.

Soon we founded our own boards and some who were really frightened and scared to death joined us there. More and more of them came and got members on our boards. We could throw light on many of these topics and prove people that they don`t have to be afraid of the year 2012. With the right astronomic ken this was something very easy to predict. And these people trusted us more than some renowned astronomers because we were some of them. Most of us were also “believers” (at least for a short time).
We could reach around 60-75 percent, but you will never reach hardcore believers, bigots and fundamentalists. The last few followers of Nancytalk are all fundamentalists and lenseflare-freaks. In 2009 I also knew that a real Nibiru would have been tracked more than a decade ago: and this all over the world. So Marshall`s ideas were all wrong and the supposed astronomers in his team were all pseudo-scientists. It is incredible that such people could cause such a major fire of a prophetic hype in the internet. But it happened and we all know it now.

So I`m neither a friend of Marshall Masters nor of Nancy Liar. And Im quite amused to see this epic battle and the rivalry between these two dinosaurs of doom. 2012 ended and Nibiru hit them hard but they didn’t realize it. Most of their target groups disappeared. Normally the lensetards were Nancy`s customers. As Marshall Masters was coming for the same type of victims, a violent fight erupted. They are both just taking care of business. And here they seem to be as serious as the Hells Angels when they meet the Pagans. This seems to be their special service for each other, like always when such benevolent cult leaders and doom prophets lockup.

This was a part of my story and the reason why I`m here. Just my 50 cents.

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Whenever I hear the name Marshall Masters today I have to smile. He is the reason why I`m here. It was in February 2009, I was bored, drank a beer and searched for some interesting clips on youtube.

So I hit on one of Masters Nibiru reports. I must admit that my astronomic background knowledge at that time was very lousy. I was more or less an easy victim and I was fascinated. And this not only a little bit. For the next five weeks I really developed a little paranoia. Of course I also was a bloody amateur in cameras and so I proudly rushed into the lenseflare traps. I joined some Nibiru boards and started to collect more and more information. I was so convinced of doing the right thing. Debunkers had a real hard time with me on some German boards because I`m an excellent writer. I attacked here and attacked there: and was still so proud of it thinking I did the right thing. With some stupid rhetoric you can avoid astronomic topics and I was damn good at it. So Masters really got me at that point.

Sooner or later I also came across some of the stories of Nancy Lieder which completely contradicted the “astronomic concepts” of Marshall Masters. This was a nogo for me, but I also got a little bit suspicious because these stories sounded very fantastic and unreal. But how do you sort it out?

So I started reading astronomic books and essays. When I read I`m not the normal consumer. I want to know it all in short time. I also read some well-known astronomers and their opinion about that topic. At that time I had already invested around 2000 bucks in weapons and other stuff for my survival. The more I read and the longer I was sitting the darker got the cloud over my head. I knew I got a victim. I was an April Fool`s victim for nearly two months. Besides that I also saw the other people in the communities I was in and they were apparently victims too. Everybody there was in the big 2012-hype and Nibiru-flush. I was not amused. So I wanted to share my new astronomic knowledge with them, but suddenly many of them thought I was a "debunker". I could say whatever I wanted, I was banned and so on and that often for no real reason. I just told them the truth.

Soon we founded our own boards and some who were really frightened and scared to death joined us there. More and more of them came and got members on our boards. We could throw light on many of these topics and prove people that they don`t have to be afraid of the year 2012. With the right astronomic ken this was something very easy to predict. And these people trusted us more than some renowned astronomers because we were some of them. Most of us were also “believers” (at least for a short time).
We could reach around 60-75 percent, but you will never reach hardcore believers, bigots and fundamentalists. The last few followers of Nancytalk are all fundamentalists and lenseflare-freaks. In 2009 I also knew that a real Nibiru would have been tracked more than a decade ago: and this all over the world. So Marshall`s ideas were all wrong and the supposed astronomers in his team were all pseudo-scientists. It is incredible that such people could cause such a major fire of a prophetic hype in the internet. But it happened and we all know it now.

So I`m neither a friend of Marshall Masters nor of Nancy Liar. And Im quite amused to see this epic battle and the rivalry between these two dinosaurs of doom. 2012 ended and Nibiru hit them hard but they didn’t realize it. Most of their target groups disappeared. Normally the lensetards were Nancy`s customers. As Marshall Masters was coming for the same type of victims, a violent fight erupted. They are both just taking care of business. And here they seem to be as serious as the Hells Angels when they meet the Pagans. This seems to be their special service for each other, like always when such benevolent cult leaders and doom prophets lockup.

This was a part of my story and the reason why I`m here. Just my 50 cents.

V.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Good story. Thanks for sharing it. Hopefully a parable for Ann and other believers.
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I have to laugh again. It would be too ridiculous if these freaks didn`t mean it so serious. Ann S. released a most wanted poster on her poleshit.ning.

She is so deep in her morass of blindness. How lucky we are that she never sounds a little bit disenchanted. The virus of hatred is deep inside of her blood vessels.
And she is still waiting for an announcement. The never ending lust of waiting for nothing. There is still no Nibiru around. Ann is adoring odd lenseflares like most of her cult buddies.

Besides that I feel a little bit disappointed: I`m only number seven on her most wanted list. How could this happen?

Cults are dangerous and Ann S. is the best example for it.
And why did they forget their “old friend” Marshall Masters on this list? He has debunked them too? No?

Please Ann S. make a cult therapy and stop acting as a shill. Please believe me nobody will ever pay you for this. You are too crackbrained.

Can we make a deal Ann S.? If next year in April there is still always no announcement you will swallow your words?

We all know that this will be the case. Just remember Indonesia! And you will leave the cult.

If you win I will never write a word again and deeply apologize?! I will also come to your home, wash your car, take care of your garden, work in your kitchen and in the next Chinese restaurant. I will be a humble servant.
But I guess we both know that this will never happen. Do you want to bet?

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MoreAboutTunnelVision (traitor/former ning moderator; assumed unpaid)


Hi Tunnel,

I feel sorry for you - unpaid !!!

Btw, I still didn't get my pay check for 2012 - should I quit this job?

LOL


(Schick mir ne Mail, wenn Du nach HH kommst - bist willkommen.)

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I have to laugh again. It would be too ridiculous if these freaks didn`t mean it so serious. Ann S. released a most wanted poster on her poleshit.ning.


 Quoting: VeritasN1


There is something seriously wrong with her. To me it sounds like she's gotten really paranoid about us.

I'm definitely going to have to fire-up zetasquawk again.

I just love her thinly veiled threats that will never come to pass. There is never going to be a planet eX announcement and we all know that. Unfortunately, the ningtards are hoping and praying for an announcement just like they've been patiently waiting for the never-to-happen poleshift.

What will they do when they're old and feeble, breathing their last breath in their deathbed? I guarantee they won't be saying "damn, I wasted all that time believing in the poleshift and it never happened..."
“Fear always springs from ignorance” - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Do you get double time for "working" on a holiday?
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Do you? Does Nancy give you paid time off for the "pole shift?" What about an employee shelter/bunker assistance program?
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Talking about ignorance. Did you read the whole Zetatalk Newsletter link? Your badastronomy (Phil Plait) link is a really cute attempt, you can do better next time. Now quick back into your snail shell, there you are safe and the truth won't hurt you.
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Why read something that is utter nonsense and has already been proven as such - numerous times? Reading it again won't make it any different.
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Scroll down for the latest gem from ann s, sure to brighten your day :)

*These are becoming desperate times for the Planet X debunkers, as the actions of Marshall Masters and the many paid shills who "work" at GLP are proving.*

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Elemental


And then, suddenly, and without warning - SMACK!! Reality hits Ann upside the head. The question is - will she be smart enough to realize it or just continue on down the path of the brain dead?
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This says everything,

"Alberto: 4/01 11:50 What Should I Think?"

"I cannot think for myself"

"Tell me how to think"
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 37186693


Pretty much.

I remember when Luser had a fit when someone here sent Nancy a photo that he knew for a fact was a lens flare because he took the picture, and then asked her what it was. Naturally, she claimed it showed "Planet X". Luser nearly had a breakdown trying to claim that was dishonest when the person who sent the photo didn't make any claims on at all when he sent it - Nancy did. Naturally, the point was lost on Luser - if that one photo was definitely a lens flare but Nancy said it showed "Planet X", then it makes all her other photos highly questionable. He was challenged to point out which of Nancy's photos truly showed "Planet X." For some strange reason, Luser ran away.
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Scroll down for the latest gem from ann s, sure to brighten your day :)

*These are becoming desperate times for the Planet X debunkers, as the actions of Marshall Masters and the many paid shills who "work" at GLP are proving.*

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Elemental


And then, suddenly, and without warning - SMACK!! Reality hits Ann upside the head. The question is - will she be smart enough to realize it or just continue on down the path of the brain dead?
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Ever notice that Nancy and the gang are quite United States centric?

Why could only President Obama make the announcement? There are other super powers (i.e., Russia, China, England, India, etc).

Why is it only NASA that is doing a supposed cover-up? There are other space agencies (Russia, China, Japan, ESA, etc).

Why does only the USNO mess with time? Doesn't she realize that other countries have atomic clocks?

Why is only the USGS messing with earthquake reporting? The USGS is not the only country with seismographs and seismological agencies.

Personally, I think the woman is bat-shit crazy but that's just my humble position.

Oh, one last thing. Why can only Flareberto reliably image planet eX with his cheap cell-phone camera? Don't the other 320 registered ningtards have cameras?

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There is something seriously wrong with her. To me it sounds like she's gotten really paranoid about us.
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Paranoid? I'd say obsessed...unless Nancy is paying her to keep tabs on us. That would explain a lot.

I'm definitely going to have to fire-up zetasquawk again.
 Quoting: bob_909

Oh, please do - that will drive her crazy - more so than she already is.

I just love her thinly veiled threats that will never come to pass. There is never going to be a planet eX announcement and we all know that. Unfortunately, the ningtards are hoping and praying for an announcement just like they've been patiently waiting for the never-to-happen poleshift.
 Quoting: bob_909

Yep, she's so sure it's going to happen any day now almost to the point of being arrogant about it.

What will they do when they're old and feeble, breathing their last breath in their deathbed? I guarantee they won't be saying "damn, I wasted all that time believing in the poleshift and it never happened..."
 Quoting: bob_909

No, probably not. I suspect they'll pass from this Earth still convinced that "Planet X" is still hanging out by the sun just waiting to pounce and that the government/NASA will be announcing it any day now.
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Ever notice that Nancy and the gang are quite United States centric?

Why could only President Obama make the announcement? There are other super powers (i.e., Russia, China, England, India, etc).

Why is it only NASA that is doing a supposed cover-up? There are other space agencies (Russia, China, Japan, ESA, etc).

Why does only the USNO mess with time? Doesn't she realize that other countries have atomic clocks?

Why is only the USGS messing with earthquake reporting? The USGS is not the only country with seismographs and seismological agencies.

Personally, I think the woman is bat-shit crazy but that's just my humble position.

Oh, one last thing. Why can only Flareberto reliably image planet eX with his cheap cell-phone camera? Don't the other 320 registered ningtards have cameras?
 Quoting: bob_909


Wow, good points.

LOL! I forgot about the clocks - hilarious stuff! I can't believe she actually said the U.S. Navy was changing the time on everyone's clocks at night while they slept. Naturally, if you asked her how they managed to do this you would never get an answer.
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This says everything,

"Alberto: 4/01 11:50 What Should I Think?"

"I cannot think for myself"

"Tell me how to think"
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 37186693


Pretty much.

I remember when Luser had a fit when someone here sent Nancy a photo that he knew for a fact was a lens flare because he took the picture, and then asked her what it was. Naturally, she claimed it showed "Planet X". Luser nearly had a breakdown trying to claim that was dishonest when the person who sent the photo didn't make any claims on at all when he sent it - Nancy did. Naturally, the point was lost on Luser - if that one photo was definitely a lens flare but Nancy said it showed "Planet X", then it makes all her other photos highly questionable. He was challenged to point out which of Nancy's photos truly showed "Planet X." For some strange reason, Luser ran away.
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That reminds me...nine (9) years ago I sent her an image supposedly showing planet eX occulting the Sun and she claimed it was real. Guess what, it's still there on the site!

Unfortunately for her what it really shows is a visual effect you get doing eyepiece projection photography with a telescope (I had solar filter on the telescope). If you get the camera off-center in the eyepiece, you get darkening which makes it appear something is between the Sun and the telescope.

I wonder if one of the idiots will go to the trouble to figure which image it is on her site.
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Wow, good points.

LOL! I forgot about the clocks - hilarious stuff! I can't believe she actually said the U.S. Navy was changing the time on everyone's clocks at night while they slept. Naturally, if you asked her how they managed to do this you would never get an answer.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


She's never heard of NIST and it's association with time standards (she's probably never listed to WWV on a short-wave).

In her mind it's only the USNO that controls time...the woman is quite ignorant and incurious.
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So IDW/A.A's *next* act is going to be about Comet ISON, which he is now claiming is *not* a comet -- despite its orbit being predictable.

Thread: Comet ISON (Page 7)

So now IDW/A.A says he will *sue* Dr. Astro, saying in part: "...intentionally lying about issues that are literally life and death and could result in unnecessary loss of life.. I think that falls under international law as a crime if I am not mistaken..You need to be stopped, and yes I am very serious about taking legal action against you."

Thread: Comet ISON (Page 7)

I guess IDW/A.A hasn't seen Astro's thread...

Thread: My Brand New Images of Comet ISON (With "Companions!!!!!") 4-2-13

Good on you, Astro! You know you're doing things right when the kooks threaten frivolous lawsuits over writing on a message board. He's been threatening legal action against me since about 2008, I believe.
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This says everything,

"Alberto: 4/01 11:50 What Should I Think?"

"I cannot think for myself"

"Tell me how to think"
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 37186693


Pretty much.

I remember when Luser had a fit when someone here sent Nancy a photo that he knew for a fact was a lens flare because he took the picture, and then asked her what it was. Naturally, she claimed it showed "Planet X". Luser nearly had a breakdown trying to claim that was dishonest when the person who sent the photo didn't make any claims on at all when he sent it - Nancy did. Naturally, the point was lost on Luser - if that one photo was definitely a lens flare but Nancy said it showed "Planet X", then it makes all her other photos highly questionable. He was challenged to point out which of Nancy's photos truly showed "Planet X." For some strange reason, Luser ran away.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


That reminds me...nine (9) years ago I sent her an image supposedly showing planet eX occulting the Sun and she claimed it was real. Guess what, it's still there on the site!

Unfortunately for her what it really shows is a visual effect you get doing eyepiece projection photography with a telescope (I had solar filter on the telescope). If you get the camera off-center in the eyepiece, you get darkening which makes it appear something is between the Sun and the telescope.

I wonder if one of the idiots will go to the trouble to figure which image it is on her site.
 Quoting: bob_909


Can you post this picture or show the link?
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So IDW/A.A's *next* act is going to be about Comet ISON, which he is now claiming is *not* a comet -- despite its orbit being predictable.

Thread: Comet ISON (Page 7)

So now IDW/A.A says he will *sue* Dr. Astro, saying in part: "...intentionally lying about issues that are literally life and death and could result in unnecessary loss of life.. I think that falls under international law as a crime if I am not mistaken..You need to be stopped, and yes I am very serious about taking legal action against you."

Thread: Comet ISON (Page 7)

I guess IDW/A.A hasn't seen Astro's thread...

Thread: My Brand New Images of Comet ISON (With "Companions!!!!!") 4-2-13

Good on you, Astro! You know you're doing things right when the kooks threaten frivolous lawsuits over writing on a message board. He's been threatening legal action against me since about 2008, I believe.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74444

To complete the list with IDW/A.A hit and run actions:

Thread: BREAKING: Scientist claims comet ISON has companions! (Page 7)

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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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I have exactly the same power as you over the archives. I just keep way better notes, I suppose.

And they weren't erased -- you just are lousy at searching, it seems.

Ah, well. If you want the data is its raw form, here's a lot of it: I am sure IDW/A.A can disavow the parts he doesn't like anymore.

It's a *lot* of reading, but there you go. Some true IDW/A.A gems in there.

Thread: Did we really go to the Moon? Why haven't we been back since 72?
Thread: DEBUNKING NASA'S "NASA CRUSHES 2012 MAYAN ACPACALYPSE"
Thread: NASA's Moonlanding Hoax Debunked Once and for ALL
Thread: APOLLO MOON LANDINGS ------- FAKED OR REAL !!??
Thread: MOON LANDING WAS FAKED! TODAY'S NEWS!
Thread: NASA DUMB or NASA FRAUD?
Thread: Why do so many doubt the moon landing?
[link to web.archive.org]
Thread: The Moon is Hollow: NASA provides all the information to prove it.
Thread: The Question NASA Cant Answer About Apollo, Incontrovertable Evidence of Fraud
Thread: Let me ask the Apollo hoax proponents something...

That's an *excerpt* of the links.

Like I said: I can't make this stuff up. Enjoy. Fair warning: Don't be drinking anything that doesn't wipe off your monitor easily.
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Sweet- I got bedtime reading material for the next couple of months!!!


Many thanks 74444, Some of those I have seen before (a few even posted in) but there's some I haven't run across before)

I first ran across idw back at the sadly now defunct BA board (baut was a poor cousin- and cosmoquest really doesn't have any claim to either of the boards history or prestige (imho))- both baut and even moreso cosmoquest strayed so far from the original feel and purpose of the original BA board that I simply don't have that much time for them anymore.
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That reminds me...nine (9) years ago I sent her an image supposedly showing planet eX occulting the Sun and she claimed it was real. Guess what, it's still there on the site!

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That reminds me of the time someone fooled her with a picture of a kite.
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I bet she thought this kite is planet x or a moon swirl.
And her stupid Zetas of course confirmed that.

This lenseflare Ning is an insult for all thinking people.
Zwaan should stop the fraud and close the Ning.

But his problem is that he probably mistakes a kite for a planet too. And the best fakes are coming from Flareberto.
How can normal people buy this bs? The average intelligence quotient of the Ningtards seems to be the one of a plastic kite.

Boom. Headshot.
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Yes Truther, lack of education and intellect is telling, however I find it sad that the cultists cannot see reality. They are blinded by misinformation.
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Nancy's "sign" -


Nancy explains how the Zetas convinced her to quit her job and move to Wisconsin :

..."But I'll tell you about a moaning/groaning begging-for-a-sign time when I was first deciding to make the moves I've done these past couple years. I'm getting up there, 60, not strong, not financially anything but on the edge, and my family (except for one person) is not supportive of what I do. So I wanted a SOLID SIGN from the Zetas before I burned bridges and moved to Wisco and all. "Give me a sign!!!""

"So, I had a visitation from Pumpkin heads (the big guys, see Zeta Types in Worlds) and they told me that when I went into my office I'd find the MUFON mags turned face down, not up as usual, and that would be my sign. So I went in, all excited, and they were face up. Got hysterical. Another visitation, and they said "this is why we don't give signs on demand! If they go wrong, or are perceived wrong, hysterics, etc." So I understood, not on demand. A week later I'm in a movie house, alone, trying to relax, and get the sense that a Zeta came in and sat beside me, and I'd find a candy wrapper in my pocket or some such. I was eating Star Bursts, glued shut cardboard box, welded plastic wrapper around individually wrapped pieces. You have to break your fingernails to get the candy, practically. So I'm eating along and get to the last piece. It's not individually wrapped in wax paper. Now, EVERY Star Burst is so wrapped, by machine, I have no doubt. So, I figured that was my sign, when I wasn't expecting it."
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Nancy's "sign" -


Nancy explains how the Zetas convinced her to quit her job and move to Wisconsin :

..."But I'll tell you about a moaning/groaning begging-for-a-sign time when I was first deciding to make the moves I've done these past couple years. I'm getting up there, 60, not strong, not financially anything but on the edge, and my family (except for one person) is not supportive of what I do. So I wanted a SOLID SIGN from the Zetas before I burned bridges and moved to Wisco and all. "Give me a sign!!!""

"So, I had a visitation from Pumpkin heads (the big guys, see Zeta Types in Worlds) and they told me that when I went into my office I'd find the MUFON mags turned face down, not up as usual, and that would be my sign. So I went in, all excited, and they were face up. Got hysterical. Another visitation, and they said "this is why we don't give signs on demand! If they go wrong, or are perceived wrong, hysterics, etc." So I understood, not on demand. A week later I'm in a movie house, alone, trying to relax, and get the sense that a Zeta came in and sat beside me, and I'd find a candy wrapper in my pocket or some such. I was eating Star Bursts, glued shut cardboard box, welded plastic wrapper around individually wrapped pieces. You have to break your fingernails to get the candy, practically. So I'm eating along and get to the last piece. It's not individually wrapped in wax paper. Now, EVERY Star Burst is so wrapped, by machine, I have no doubt. So, I figured that was my sign, when I wasn't expecting it."
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 37186693


I take it that the double-yolked egg that I found yesterday has the same profound message for me lol! Or maybe it was that prophetic dream that I had.......!!
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[link to website.lineone.net]

From the Lou Gentile show 6th June, 2003

Lou:

Well....


Nancy:

He, he, he, he.


Lou:

....you haven't convinced me Nancy...


Nancy:

You know Lou....


Lou:

In all honesty....


Nancy:

....if we go months and months here and nothing happens you've got a right to throw tomatoes at me....


Lou:

Ha, ha, ha...
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So IDW/A.A's *next* act is going to be about Comet ISON, which he is now claiming is *not* a comet -- despite its orbit being predictable.

Thread: Comet ISON (Page 7)

So now IDW/A.A says he will *sue* Dr. Astro, saying in part: "...intentionally lying about issues that are literally life and death and could result in unnecessary loss of life.. I think that falls under international law as a crime if I am not mistaken..You need to be stopped, and yes I am very serious about taking legal action against you."

Thread: Comet ISON (Page 7)

I guess IDW/A.A hasn't seen Astro's thread...

Thread: My Brand New Images of Comet ISON (With "Companions!!!!!") 4-2-13

Good on you, Astro! You know you're doing things right when the kooks threaten frivolous lawsuits over writing on a message board. He's been threatening legal action against me since about 2008, I believe.
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Ha! Glad I'm not alone. I wonder if he'll eventually seek out others who feel "wronged" by our debunkings and make it a "class action" lawsuit against debunkers.
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So IDW/A.A's *next* act is going to be about Comet ISON, which he is now claiming is *not* a comet -- despite its orbit being predictable.

Thread: Comet ISON (Page 7)

So now IDW/A.A says he will *sue* Dr. Astro, saying in part: "...intentionally lying about issues that are literally life and death and could result in unnecessary loss of life.. I think that falls under international law as a crime if I am not mistaken..You need to be stopped, and yes I am very serious about taking legal action against you."

Thread: Comet ISON (Page 7)

I guess IDW/A.A hasn't seen Astro's thread...

Thread: My Brand New Images of Comet ISON (With "Companions!!!!!") 4-2-13

Good on you, Astro! You know you're doing things right when the kooks threaten frivolous lawsuits over writing on a message board. He's been threatening legal action against me since about 2008, I believe.
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Ha! Glad I'm not alone. I wonder if he'll eventually seek out others who feel "wronged" by our debunkings and make it a "class action" lawsuit against debunkers.
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I expect the lawyer to be a ningtard.......oh, and an undiscovered eminent, amateur astrophysicist ;)
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And exactly that is why it is constructed like that by the Zetas. One needs to be able to maintain doubt to crawl back into his snail shell to feel secure. It is necessary to survive for ALL of us. I am refering to our ability to NOT find absolute "truth" about several aspects which are about to "come" to men.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


But of course the whole concept of intentional "doubt" never entered into the ZetaTalk message until the huge 2003 fail.

Prior to that the "Zetas" presented their message as absolute truth and May 15, 2003 as the date against which all other sources of information were to be judged.

The "Zetas" repeatedly said that if the pole shift did not happen then they were to be harshly judged and rightly so.

The "element of doubt" argument is nothing but after the fact rationalization.
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ZetaTalk: Element of Doubt
Note: written by Jul 15, 1995
[link to www.zetatalk.com] -> explains it, also containing an update Note: below added during the Sep 7, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

Your statement:
But of course the whole concept of intentional "doubt" never entered into the ZetaTalk message until the huge 2003 fail.
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does not stand up to a test.
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


Quote from that Zetatalk page:

"The Element of Doubt rule must be interpreted in light of the absolute certainty that the alien presence is real, or not."


That page specifically relates to the idea of an alleged alien presence and NOT to whether what is specifically said and/or predicted in Zetatalk is truthful.
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So, Panta Rhei, a couple of us went to the trouble to show you that the "element of doubt" only applies to the alleged alien presence and you don't have the courtesy to respond?
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Hi people. Starting several days ago, posting here would cause me to be banned. Not sure why. I'm not using my own computer or connection today and so I can post. Not sure if my home connection is still banned.
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This says everything,

"Alberto: 4/01 11:50 What Should I Think?"

"I cannot think for myself"

"Tell me how to think"
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 37186693


Pretty much.

I remember when Luser had a fit when someone here sent Nancy a photo that he knew for a fact was a lens flare because he took the picture, and then asked her what it was. Naturally, she claimed it showed "Planet X". Luser nearly had a breakdown trying to claim that was dishonest when the person who sent the photo didn't make any claims on at all when he sent it - Nancy did. Naturally, the point was lost on Luser - if that one photo was definitely a lens flare but Nancy said it showed "Planet X", then it makes all her other photos highly questionable. He was challenged to point out which of Nancy's photos truly showed "Planet X." For some strange reason, Luser ran away.
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That reminds me...nine (9) years ago I sent her an image supposedly showing planet eX occulting the Sun and she claimed it was real. Guess what, it's still there on the site!

Unfortunately for her what it really shows is a visual effect you get doing eyepiece projection photography with a telescope (I had solar filter on the telescope). If you get the camera off-center in the eyepiece, you get darkening which makes it appear something is between the Sun and the telescope.

I wonder if one of the idiots will go to the trouble to figure which image it is on her site.
 Quoting: bob_909


Can you post this picture or show the link?
 Quoting: Panta Rhei


Why, so you can find a way to spin things and claim Nancy wasn't wrong?


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