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A word of caution: people appear to be posting the ning comments about Trinity on GLP. If past experience is any guide this could lead to the automatic banning of anyone posting a link to Nancy's ning here.
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Well this are no people. Only Nancy`s last homegrown cult dogs.

She killed and ate her last dogs in 2003. But they are very desperate, cause their cult is close to vanish.

There are many important news on glp, but Nancy and her cult are nothing. And they know it. So the cult people are running amok.

They are desperate and they want to get some attention. Their little cult is not important anymore.
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I won't post the link but dear ann s is certainly displeased with her so-called *list of shills*. Check out the latest comments on the blog, if your stomachs can bear it!
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Marshall Masters also describes the dangerous cult of Nancy Lieder and Lieder`s long history of scamming people.



Nancy Lieder`s little cult is done. Game over. But she gets more and more violent, aggressive and desperate in these days.
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I love a good kOOkfight.

Masters and Lieder are trolling for the same, ever diminishing number of, dimwitted PXtards.

My money's on Ninny due to her proven tenacity in the face of astounding failure. Masters can't make money on any one scam for very long before he has to move on to the next doomtastic fantasy.

Both are obsessed with lens flares so maybe they can reach a meeting of the no-minds.


R.
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Well obviously this former CNN reporter or what ever he was is a reader of zetatalk. High profile old zetatalk is.

I had no idea when i first starting reading it the fuss it had caused. Just inspires me to read it more to see what all the fuss is about. lol

When ever I check this thread I think, "oh, i better go read the ning to see what the debunkers are on about now"...

I swear there have been times when this thread has renewed my faith in the zetas - no lie.
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Well, AC 566, at least here you get the opportunity to debate, discuss and make up your own mind. Your choice, thereafter, is yours to make.
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Well, AC 566, at least here you get the opportunity to debate, discuss and make up your own mind. Your choice, thereafter, is yours to make.
 Quoting: Elemental


Yes, indeed. Elemental makes an extremely valid point, here.

Notice that one would *not* have such an opportunity on Nancy's Ning -- nor anywhere else on the Internet, if Nancy had her way. Criticism of the central ZT ideas is not permitted, and if she could shut down criticism altogether, she would, in a heartbeat.

AC566, if the various legitimate criticisms of Zetatalk make the idea more compelling for you, might I suggest examining *why* that would be so, for I cannot see it being rational.
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I won't post the link but dear ann s is certainly displeased with her so-called *list of shills*. Check out the latest comments on the blog, if your stomachs can bear it!
 Quoting: Elemental


Don't know where to look, but that's all right. I expect AC74444 didn't make *that* list.
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I won't post the link but dear ann s is certainly displeased with her so-called *list of shills*. Check out the latest comments on the blog, if your stomachs can bear it!
 Quoting: Elemental


Don't know where to look, but that's all right. I expect AC74444 didn't make *that* list.
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The list is in the comments of the *paid shill* blog. It's rather amusing really, reading the desperate attempts to discredit anyone who dares to disagree.
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I won't post the link but dear ann s is certainly displeased with her so-called *list of shills*. Check out the latest comments on the blog, if your stomachs can bear it!
 Quoting: Elemental


Don't know where to look, but that's all right. I expect AC74444 didn't make *that* list.
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I bet she got the idea from `that' list tho- have you ever known nancy or any of the others to actually have an original idea???

nancy is all too well know for her `borrowing' of others ideas and reusing them as the basis of her various zeta talks- I bet that annes wouldn't be above following her lieders (snicker) example and borrowing the idea of `the list'

;-)
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I won't post the link but dear ann s is certainly displeased with her so-called *list of shills*. Check out the latest comments on the blog, if your stomachs can bear it!
 Quoting: Elemental


I'm so hurt, I didn't make it onto `THE LIST'

She certainly is getting rather strident about the `paid debunkers' and looking at the sheer volume of her postings she certainly has plenty of free time on her hands to both post herself and track down anyone else posting anything re the ning, nancy or herself

Plenty of free time and a large retirement fund to live off-


or perhaps...

She is getting paid to do all this???

Hmmm...

(that certainly seems more likely than she has ample funds available to support her while she spends so much time online)
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I won't post the link but dear ann s is certainly displeased with her so-called *list of shills*. Check out the latest comments on the blog, if your stomachs can bear it!
 Quoting: Elemental


I'm so hurt, I didn't make it onto `THE LIST'

She certainly is getting rather strident about the `paid debunkers' and looking at the sheer volume of her postings she certainly has plenty of free time on her hands to both post herself and track down anyone else posting anything re the ning, nancy or herself

Plenty of free time and a large retirement fund to live off-


or perhaps...

She is getting paid to do all this???

Hmmm...

(that certainly seems more likely than she has ample funds available to support her while she spends so much time online)
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I find it simply amazing that there are any *followers* left at all. It would do Nancy much more good to encourage open & honest debate within her forum and as the zetas are such superior beings to us humans, it would surely be easy for them to qualify each and every statement and prediction made.
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Quote "When ever I check this thread I think, "oh, i better go read the ning to see what the debunkers are on about now"...

I swear there have been times when this thread has renewed my faith in the zetas - no lie." AC29312566


This made me laugh since zetatalk is just delusions of the mind from that monster "nancy lieder". zetatalk is just a name give to her comments that she takes from others who contribute to her delusions also just an escape makeing it alot easier to blame her imaginary beings the "zetas". This allows nancy not to take responsibility for her words or wrong advice she had given to others all these years.
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Quote "When ever I check this thread I think, "oh, i better go read the ning to see what the debunkers are on about now"...

I swear there have been times when this thread has renewed my faith in the zetas - no lie." AC29312566


This made me laugh since zetatalk is just delusions of the mind from that monster "nancy lieder". zetatalk is just a name give to her comments that she takes from others who contribute to her delusions also just an escape makeing it alot easier to blame her imaginary beings the "zetas". This allows nancy not to take responsibility for her words or wrong advice she had given to others all these years.
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And the outright lies....don't forget them!
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I find it simply amazing that there are any *followers* left at all. It would do Nancy much more good to encourage open & honest debate within her forum and as the zetas are such superior beings to us humans, it would surely be easy for them to qualify each and every statement and prediction made.
 Quoting: Elemental


`It would do Nancy much more good to encourage open & honest debate within her forum'


You owe me one screen and keyboard cleaning!!!!

It would be in her `best interests' to do exactly the opposite (as she has always done in the past) IF she wishes to continue the charade of the zetas and their non-existent planet x

It would only be in her best interests if she actually had a sincere change of heart and became an actual `sto' as she likes to call them

I put the odds of that approximately the same as planet x magically appearing in our solar systems

(and about the same odds of Obama making his often delayed `announcement')


Funny that......
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`It would do Nancy much more good to encourage open & honest debate within her forum'


You owe me one screen and keyboard cleaning!!!!

It would be in her `best interests' to do exactly the opposite (as she has always done in the past) IF she wishes to continue the charade of the zetas and their non-existent planet x

It would only be in her best interests if she actually had a sincere change of heart and became an actual `sto' as she likes to call them

I put the odds of that approximately the same as planet x magically appearing in our solar systems

(and about the same odds of Obama making his often delayed `announcement')


Funny that......
 Quoting: aussie 763624 37479922


The sarcasm is my post obviously wasn't clear enough! She seems to think that controlling what is said is going to make her believable. It makes her way, way less so! Sorry about your keyboard, I'll send you some screen wipes and a tin foil hat complete with integral antennae to make up for it ;))
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 Quoting: Elemental


`It would do Nancy much more good to encourage open & honest debate within her forum'


You owe me one screen and keyboard cleaning!!!!

It would be in her `best interests' to do exactly the opposite (as she has always done in the past) IF she wishes to continue the charade of the zetas and their non-existent planet x

It would only be in her best interests if she actually had a sincere change of heart and became an actual `sto' as she likes to call them

I put the odds of that approximately the same as planet x magically appearing in our solar systems

(and about the same odds of Obama making his often delayed `announcement')


Funny that......
 Quoting: aussie 763624 37479922


The sarcasm is my post obviously wasn't clear enough! She seems to think that controlling what is said is going to make her believable. It makes her way, way less so! Sorry about your keyboard, I'll send you some screen wipes and a tin foil hat complete with integral antennae to make up for it ;))
 Quoting: Elemental


Oh I don't think I missed your sarcasm

;-)

(I think you may have missed mine however)

;-)

And I am only too aware of your point


`She seems to think that controlling what is said is going to make her believable. It makes her way, way less so!'


having watched her antics (on and off) since before 2003- watched the rise and fall of the yahoo chats, the blog, here at godlike and now the ning

I am only far too aware of her `control at all costs' view of how the internet should be run

I am glad to say that I was a banned `person non grata' at all of them

And yes, it does indeed made her less credible (somehow she continues to make impossible things like that happen lol)

how someone can be perceived as a complete kook, li(e)r, nutcase and scam artist- then proceed to to make themselves appear even less credible time after time is amazing beyond belief...

yet nancy continues to amaze us all and step up to the plate...
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Why, do you think, that she still has anyone who believes her rubbish? I bow to your collective knowledge when it comes to her as my experience is limited; but even I can see that she trips herself up at every turn. Her words and heart appear hardened to truth.
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`She seems to think that controlling what is said is going to make her believable. It makes her way, way less so!'

looking over at annes rants about how we debunkers apparently rule the roost and all mention of the zetas is an instant ban and delete here....

Would she like to explain that whilst not a single debunker has ever been allowed to post at the ning without that post being deleted and the poster banned....

Yet on this thread alone (started by a debunker when nancy was a mod here, and she literally deleted almost every debunker post on her threads then banned the poster- sound familiar???) there are literally thousands of posts by pro nancy posters that are still there in all their glory, undeleted (and afaik not one banned by us even the only person who could ban a poster was the OP, TLR, and he was adamant about not stooping to nancy's level, even melfy was allowed to continue his pro zeta rants unbanned over literally thousands of posts....


pot- meet kettle...
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`She seems to think that controlling what is said is going to make her believable. It makes her way, way less so!'

looking over at annes rants about how we debunkers apparently rule the roost and all mention of the zetas is an instant ban and delete here....

Would she like to explain that whilst not a single debunker has ever been allowed to post at the ning without that post being deleted and the poster banned....

Yet on this thread alone (started by a debunker when nancy was a mod here, and she literally deleted almost every debunker post on her threads then banned the poster- sound familiar???) there are literally thousands of posts by pro nancy posters that are still there in all their glory, undeleted (and afaik not one banned by us even the only person who could ban a poster was the OP, TLR, and he was adamant about not stooping to nancy's level, even melfy was allowed to continue his pro zeta rants unbanned over literally thousands of posts....


pot- meet kettle...
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I love this!
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Why, do you think, that she still has anyone who believes her rubbish? I bow to your collective knowledge when it comes to her as my experience is limited; but even I can see that she trips herself up at every turn. Her words and heart appear hardened to truth.
 Quoting: Elemental


Why she has any believers??
I know from personal experience(mentioned before in this thread) how people of unstable mind can be lulled into her little cult and the immense damage it can cause them

I personally watched a former friend lose his business, family, house, reputation and finally (only suspected but fairly sure) his life over her little white lie....

last seen sleeping on the streets (under bridges) firmly still believing that `the end was SOON!!! before one day he simply disappeared...

I am hoping he simply came to his senses, saw he could never possibly remain in a small country town and expect anyone to employ him (let alone rebuild his own business again) and decided to make a clean break and start life again elsewhere

Considering his mental state when last seen- I suspect he simply died and his body not found to date...

I hope for the first, but think the second more likely...




:-(


That's how I first got to hear about nancy LIEder and her little wanttobe cult
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She has caused so much harm :'( all through megalomania & greed. I wish well for your friend and all those sucked into her madness.
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She has caused so much harm :'( all through megalomania & greed. I wish well for your friend and all those sucked into her madness.
 Quoting: Elemental


I hope he gets your well wishes wherever he is(and all the others too)

(consider nancy wished on (I believe) Circuit Breaker??)

(could be wrong- it was certainly one of the more well known debunkers)

something along the lines of `I hope you die in great psin on a mountaintop, your arms and legs broken and twisted'

something like that...


Someone will undoubtedly be able to find the exact quote fairly shortly..

such a `TRUE' STO sentiment to publicly share

consider the difference in attitudes...

says a lot about the attitudes of the people involved doesn't it
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Ann seems to spend more time here on glp than she does over and the asylum. I would call that an obsession.
Infact because she spends so much time talking about this thread and the posters on here I would go as far as to say it is actually Nancy. Nancy cannot delete posts and ban posters on this thread like she used to so I think this is a pathetic attempt by her to discredit everything about the thread.

What has happened to the bunkers? has she ran out of her depleting members she can send to do her bidding?
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Yeah, they come across as such lovely people.......not. Ah well, their forum is suffering it's death throes and not before time. They will vanish without trace before too long.
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Why, do you think, that she still has anyone who believes her rubbish? I bow to your collective knowledge when it comes to her as my experience is limited; but even I can see that she trips herself up at every turn. Her words and heart appear hardened to truth.
 Quoting: Elemental



From my experience as a Moderator I think its a combination of factors, some may be:

- All the alienstuff etc is more interesting than for example thinking how we could solve present problems,

- General frustration/resignation from earths present situation (they want it to be wiped out for a second 'chance', or they feel comfortable with its implicatons),

- They heavily structured their lifes around it... "burnt bridges" as they say, so it blocks their minds to go backwards and question their decisions.



Id be more precise wouldnt I be typing this on a tablet..
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Ann seems to spend more time here on glp than she does over and the asylum. I would call that an obsession.
Infact because she spends so much time talking about this thread and the posters on here I would go as far as to say it is actually Nancy. Nancy cannot delete posts and ban posters on this thread like she used to so I think this is a pathetic attempt by her to discredit everything about the thread.

What has happened to the bunkers? has she ran out of her depleting members she can send to do her bidding?
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I believe that you are right; crazy nancy & her wannabe tard, ann, expend so much bad energy by disrespecting others that they have lost their minds.
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you may notice that I never call her Nancy- always nancy
and I always spell her last name LIEder (as in LIE)

I admit I can be petty- but I will not dignify her with either capitals in her name- unless its shows the aptness of her last name (petty but rather personally satisfying- sue me, I'm easily satisfied OK)

(You may also may notice I always use the name aussie 763624- that's when I first started `coming out' against nancy in her threads- that was my user number at the time)
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you may notice that I never call her Nancy- always nancy
and I always spell her last name LIEder (as in LIE)

I admit I can be petty- but I will not dignify her with either capitals in her name- unless its shows the aptness of her last name (petty but rather personally satisfying- sue me, I'm easily satisfied OK)

(You may also may notice I always use the name aussie 763624- that's when I first started `coming out' against nancy in her threads- that was my user number at the time)
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Lol, I always thought that the spelling of her surname was ironic!
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Why, do you think, that she still has anyone who believes her rubbish? I bow to your collective knowledge when it comes to her as my experience is limited; but even I can see that she trips herself up at every turn. Her words and heart appear hardened to truth.
 Quoting: Elemental



From my experience as a Moderator I think its a combination of factors, some may be:

- All the alienstuff etc is more interesting than for example thinking how we could solve present problems,

- General frustration/resignation from earths present situation (they want it to be wiped out for a second 'chance', or they feel comfortable with its implicatons),

- They heavily structured their lifes around it... "burnt bridges" as they say, so it blocks their minds to go backwards and question their decisions.



Id be more precise wouldnt I be typing this on a tablet..
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That makes sense to me (yes, I'm on a tablet too...it's awkward unless one has munchkin sized fingers!).
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Why, do you think, that she still has anyone who believes her rubbish? I bow to your collective knowledge when it comes to her as my experience is limited; but even I can see that she trips herself up at every turn. Her words and heart appear hardened to truth.
 Quoting: Elemental


Why she has any believers??
I know from personal experience(mentioned before in this thread) how people of unstable mind can be lulled into her little cult and the immense damage it can cause them

I personally watched a former friend lose his business, family, house, reputation and finally (only suspected but fairly sure) his life over her little white lie....

last seen sleeping on the streets (under bridges) firmly still believing that `the end was SOON!!! before one day he simply disappeared...

I am hoping he simply came to his senses, saw he could never possibly remain in a small country town and expect anyone to employ him (let alone rebuild his own business again) and decided to make a clean break and start life again elsewhere

Considering his mental state when last seen- I suspect he simply died and his body not found to date...

I hope for the first, but think the second more likely...




:-(


That's how I first got to hear about nancy LIEder and her little wanttobe cult
 Quoting: aussie 763624 37479922


That's really tragic, sorry to hear that man. No question, her cult has seriously damaged and even destroyed lives. And sadly, it's not necessary at all.
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