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74444 in particular dislikes having his faults pointed out.
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He has absolutely no problem with it...when the faults are true. What he doesn't appreciate is when you lie.
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Heck, Nancy's empty bravado and lying about me personally is what brought me to GLP in the first place.

So, at least from my point of view, it wasn't *all* bad. Just horribly inaccurate.
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What did she say about you (lying). Can you talk about it or is that too personal?
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I was along time ago, on one of her Live Chats way back when. She claimed I was there by her/Zeta request, something along the lines of "he is posting to prop up the Zetatalk message." I challenged her on it and she banned me. Later I asked her some questions on Coast to Coast AM, too. So when she came to GLP, I started taking her to task over many astronomical claims.

I should thank her, as it was the mindset that would later start compiling all the quotes for The Big List of what IDW Knows... and that's been a lot of fun.
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Thanx for your answer 74444. It appears to me that she is a strange person when I hear such stories. I don't know who or what IWD is but I will find out soon I guess.
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Thanks Menow for your comment. I wonder what her purpose was to lie when she knows that everybody has his/her own perspective of things. Maybe she tried to drag you out? A little bit like a provocation here and there to get rid of uneasy questions?
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Sorry to jump in, but did you heared Nancy now claims I am a BlackOps (or somebody else)?
Nancy didn't claimed it per se, but Astrogal aka Ann S did - and she would not just come up with such BS - i.e. I am very sure that it was Nancy who claimed this because she didn't liked that Ann was dealing with the debunkers.

Basically she repeats the procedure she did with the former Moderators T, Ken, Lothar & Maria to avoid the other Mods dealing with the issue at all by claiming they are somebody else pretending to be those Mods.

nancy LIEder (how apt) has proven again and again over the years that she has no problems lying to people
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Absolutely. She is ruthless. The sneaky-, cowardy-type = she will lie to you flat in the face but NEVER admit any of it.

I don't want to reveal too much at this point.
Nancy is best taken by suprise.
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Did she say you developed being a so called BlackOp (whatever this means) or did she say you have always been one? The latter would be astonishing because why would they allow you to join their team anyway?
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Did she say you developed being a so called BlackOp (whatever this means) or did she say you have always been one? The latter would be astonishing because why would they allow you to join their team anyway?
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I allegedly was replaced by a blackOps just recently (or so it seems)... at least thats what Ann S' wants to believe (wahrscheinlich auf Ninnies Mist gewachsen).

No, Nancy wouldn't be able to claim I was a blackOps all along otherwise she would have to explain how the "Zetas" were unaware of the whole thing - and that would be revealing she really has no clue -
Aside from the fact that the Mods know me extremly well. (Gerard and another Moderator even came to visit me personally).


If you aren't familiar with these BlackBS claims you may take a look into the link at my signature.

Wasnt the first time, probably also not the last time..

At least, in case of doubts, Gerard can even come to visit me.. well.. if he has the courage to do so. (Not because I wouldn't like to see him again, but because they're totally paranoid and scared of this alleged BlackOps crapola.)
BTW: Same counts for "Ann"...Skype? :)

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Did she say you developed being a so called BlackOp (whatever this means) or did she say you have always been one? The latter would be astonishing because why would they allow you to join their team anyway?
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I allegedly was replaced by a blackOps just recently (or so it seems)... at least thats what Ann S' comment indicate.

No, Nancy wouldn't be able to claim I was a blackOps all along otherwise she would have to explain how the "Zetas" were unaware of the whole thing - and that would be revealing she really has no clue -
Aside from the fact that the Mods know me extremly well. (Gerard and another Moderator even came to visit me personally).


If you aren't familiar with these BlackBS claims you may take a look into the link at my signature.

Wasnt the first time, probably also not the last time..

At least, in case of doubts, Gerard can even come to visit me.. well.. if he has the courage to do so. (Not cuz I wouldn't like to see him again, but because they're totally paranoid and scared of this alleged BlackOps crapola.)
BTW: Same counts for Ann...
Skype? :)
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Well it sounds like this whole thing is based on fear. If you come up with uneasy questions you are going to be banned. I have seen that in their rules section somewhere. This basically kills any kind of 'dicussion' because it is a one sided power game played. Doesn't sound very friendly to me.
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Well it sounds like this whole thing is based on fear. If you come up with uneasy questions you are going to be banned. I have seen that in their rules section somewhere. This basically kills any kind of 'dicussion' because it is a one sided power game played. Doesn't sound very friendly to me.
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Nailed it hf

Btw: Enjoy your weekend everyone!
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I guess the new black op is Katche. Im always good at finding this out.

Nancy is a cult leader and she has to control her last few zombies. Good, that some of them didnt stop thinking. Just remember Flareberto or Pixel-Poli. They will never think again.

@Hydra: Thanks for your Pm I will answer it tomorrow buddy.

And now it is up to you Katche,- think about it twice. Do you want to believe your cult-leader or do you start to think for your yourself?

Or how long do you want to wait until Nobeeryou disappears. It will dissappear with the death of Nancy Liar,- believe me.

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Well it sounds like this whole thing is based on fear. If you come up with uneasy questions you are going to be banned. I have seen that in their rules section somewhere. This basically kills any kind of 'dicussion' because it is a one sided power game played. Doesn't sound very friendly to me.
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Nailed it hf

Btw: Enjoy your weekend everyone!
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You too!
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Enjoy your weekend everyone!
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moshpit ana moshpit beer2 hf

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Thanx for your answer 74444. It appears to me that she is a strange person when I hear such stories. I don't know who or what IWD is but I will find out soon I guess.
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IDW is a very prolific, very opinionated poster who believes any number of things, including that he is God's gift to physics. Except anytime you test his knowledge, he obfuscates and kind of folds.

He probably wouldn't get nearly the attention he does except that he is unapologetically rude, fibs a great deal, and attacks anyone he perceives as being the slightest bit against him or his ideas.

You can find him posting under the moniker "anonymous astrophysicist" these days -- amusing since he is neither anonymous nor an astrophysicist.

As for Nancy, strange is as reasonable a description as I've seen of her claims.
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Remember those recent images on the ning where Nancy says it proves an Earth wobble? She says it shows Polaris in two places, whatever that means. Well... I see a copyright on that images and I have found the author of the image online. I'm about to contact him about the use of his image by Nancy. Stand by for some fireworks.
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Here is the apparent author of the image Nancy is using:

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
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I have found the original image. It is on this page:

[link to plus.google.com (secure)]

Individual image: [link to plus.google.com (secure)]

There seems to be some effect overlaid on the image Nancy is using.
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Remember those recent images on the ning where Nancy says it proves an Earth wobble? She says it shows Polaris in two places, whatever that means. Well... I see a copyright on that images and I have found the author of the image online. I'm about to contact him about the use of his image by Nancy. Stand by for some fireworks.
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Yeah. She has previously stole my solar eclipse photos last year claiming Nibiru was visible in it, even though it was a complete lense flare, but I had no proof they were mine. For now on, every single space related picture
I get, I will leave a signature of some sort on it so Nancy doesn't steal my images ever agin.

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IDW is a very prolific, very opinionated poster who believes any number of things, including that he is God's gift to physics. Except anytime you test his knowledge, he obfuscates and kind of folds.

He probably wouldn't get nearly the attention he does except that he is unapologetically rude, fibs a great deal, and attacks anyone he perceives as being the slightest bit against him or his ideas.

You can find him posting under the moniker "anonymous astrophysicist" these days -- amusing since he is neither anonymous nor an astrophysicist.

As for Nancy, strange is as reasonable a description as I've seen of her claims.
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I couldn't stop laughing at his claim that we apparently have the ability to disable specific letters on his keyboard and that thousands of dollars a day are being spent to discredit him. Oh, and what about his demands that we or the mods restore all of his threads even though he claims to have archived EVERY post he's ever made for the past 13 years but then refuses to re-post any of them.

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I see that down further Nancy does cite where she got the image here: [link to www.space.com]

It's too bad that there is no mention that it is a manipulated photo. Apparently this photographer is known for creating mind-boggling images where the sky is somehow skewed.
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I have found that David Malin is a consultant for THE WORLD AT NIGHT photography group, to which the photographer Ajay Talwar belongs. I have emailed David and asked him to contact Talwar about the misuse of his image. I have asked David for permission to post his response here.
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OK... I have tracked down an email address for the photographer, Ajay Talwar. I have alerted him to the situation and asked for his permission to post his response here.
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Hi all, hope that you're enjoying a glorious weekend :)

What a catch up read the last pages have been!! Return of the zombies lol ;))
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I see that down further Nancy does cite where she got the image here: [link to www.space.com]
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The photo was licenced to Space.com but not to Polshit-Nancy.
And I'm quite sure, the photographer would never licence it for the purpose, Poleshit-Nancy used it.


It's too bad that there is no mention that it is a manipulated photo. Apparently this photographer is known for creating mind-boggling images where the sky is somehow skewed.
 Quoting: Menow 32588382

The photo is not manipulated in any way.
Although the location - where the photo was taken - is not situated at the equator, it's close to the Tropic of Cancer and you can see wide parts of the southern sky.

Take a wide angle lense and point it west.
Polaris is to the right and the star trails from northern stars bend right.
Star trails from stars close to the ecliptic are almost straight.
And star trails from stars in the southern hemisphere are bend to the left.

Just a usual wide angle photo.

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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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I see that down further Nancy does cite where she got the image here: [link to www.space.com]
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The photo was licenced to Space.com but not to Polshit-Nancy.
And I'm quite sure, the photographer would never licence it for the purpose, Poleshit-Nancy used it.


It's too bad that there is no mention that it is a manipulated photo. Apparently this photographer is known for creating mind-boggling images where the sky is somehow skewed.
 Quoting: Menow 32588382

The photo is not manipulated in any way.
Although the location - where the photo was taken - is not situated at the equator, it's close to the Tropic of Cancer and you can see wide parts of the southern sky.

Take a wide angle lense and point it west.
Polaris is to the right and the star trails from northern stars bend right.
Star trails from stars close to the ecliptic are almost straight.
And star trails from stars in the southern hemisphere are bend to the left.

Just a usual wide angle photo.

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I don't know... here is some of his other work:

[link to plus.google.com (secure)]
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It looks to me as if Nancy tried to do enough processing and manipulation of that image to keep it from being traced back. I had no luck with a regular Google image search on it. I found it by tracking the photographer and Nancy DID leave the copyright citation on the image.
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It looks to me as if Nancy tried to do enough processing and manipulation of that image to keep it from being traced back. I had no luck with a regular Google image search on it. I found it by tracking the photographer and Nancy DID leave the copyright citation on the image.
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I see that down further Nancy does cite where she got the image here: [link to www.space.com]
 Quoting: Menow 32588382

The photo was licenced to Space.com but not to Polshit-Nancy.
And I'm quite sure, the photographer would never licence it for the purpose, Poleshit-Nancy used it.


It's too bad that there is no mention that it is a manipulated photo. Apparently this photographer is known for creating mind-boggling images where the sky is somehow skewed.
 Quoting: Menow 32588382

The photo is not manipulated in any way.
Although the location - where the photo was taken - is not situated at the equator, it's close to the Tropic of Cancer and you can see wide parts of the southern sky.

Take a wide angle lense and point it west.
Polaris is to the right and the star trails from northern stars bend right.
Star trails from stars close to the ecliptic are almost straight.
And star trails from stars in the southern hemisphere are bend to the left.

Just a usual wide angle photo.

.
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I don't know... here is some of his other work:

[link to plus.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Menow 41235377

Photo No 68/69: edge distortion by the optics

He uses unusal optics like ultra wide angle lenses and fisheye lenses as well as multiple exposures and effect filters.
I didn't find any manipulated photo in your link.

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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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It looks to me as if Nancy tried to do enough processing and manipulation of that image to keep it from being traced back. I had no luck with a regular Google image search on it. I found it by tracking the photographer and Nancy DID leave the copyright citation on the image.
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It's just the negative image.

Converte it back (negative image again) extract the single photos and you can do a Google image search.

That's how I found the original from Ajay Talwar.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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I see that down further Nancy does cite where she got the image here: [link to www.space.com]
 Quoting: Menow 32588382

The photo was licenced to Space.com but not to Polshit-Nancy.
And I'm quite sure, the photographer would never licence it for the purpose, Poleshit-Nancy used it.


It's too bad that there is no mention that it is a manipulated photo. Apparently this photographer is known for creating mind-boggling images where the sky is somehow skewed.
 Quoting: Menow 32588382

The photo is not manipulated in any way.
Although the location - where the photo was taken - is not situated at the equator, it's close to the Tropic of Cancer and you can see wide parts of the southern sky.

Take a wide angle lense and point it west.
Polaris is to the right and the star trails from northern stars bend right.
Star trails from stars close to the ecliptic are almost straight.
And star trails from stars in the southern hemisphere are bend to the left.

Just a usual wide angle photo.

.
 Quoting: Hydra


I don't know... here is some of his other work:

[link to plus.google.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Menow 41235377

Photo No 68/69: edge distortion by the optics

He uses unusal optics like ultra wide angle lenses and fisheye lenses as well as multiple exposures and effect filters.
I didn't find any manipulated photo in your link.

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I think I see that now. I didn't understand what I was looking at. There is no 'after the fact' manipulation. It's just use of lenses which creates the effect. Either way, it creates an effect which is surreal.
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It looks to me as if Nancy tried to do enough processing and manipulation of that image to keep it from being traced back. I had no luck with a regular Google image search on it. I found it by tracking the photographer and Nancy DID leave the copyright citation on the image.
 Quoting: Menow 41235377

It's just the negative image.

Converte it back (negative image again) extract the single photos and you can do a Google image search.

That's how I found the original from Ajay Talwar.

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But look at all the crap in the lower part of the image here. At least the contrast has been fucked with:

[link to api.ning.com]
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It looks to me as if Nancy tried to do enough processing and manipulation of that image to keep it from being traced back. I had no luck with a regular Google image search on it. I found it by tracking the photographer and Nancy DID leave the copyright citation on the image.
 Quoting: Menow 41235377

It's just the negative image.

Converte it back (negative image again) extract the single photos and you can do a Google image search.

That's how I found the original from Ajay Talwar.

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I guess she does that negative stuff just to make things look more mysterious or something like that, since her "explanation" really makes no sense in the first place.
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It looks to me as if Nancy tried to do enough processing and manipulation of that image to keep it from being traced back. I had no luck with a regular Google image search on it. I found it by tracking the photographer and Nancy DID leave the copyright citation on the image.
 Quoting: Menow 41235377

It's just the negative image.

Converte it back (negative image again) extract the single photos and you can do a Google image search.

That's how I found the original from Ajay Talwar.
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I guess she does that negative stuff just to make things look more mysterious or something like that, since her "explanation" really makes no sense in the first place.
 Quoting: Menow 41235377

Exact this.


But look at all the crap in the lower part of the image here. At least the contrast has been fucked with:

[link to api.ning.com]
 Quoting: Menow 41235377

Flareberto is the master of lens flares and Pixel-Poli is the master of enhancing crappy images to more crappy images.

PP took the "thumbnail" image from Poleshit-Nancy and increased the gamma correction to a point beyond good and evil.
I have no clue why and what he want's to show with this.
But I'm sure as hell he will get the affirmation of the other poleshitters, that he made a great job.


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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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It looks to me as if Nancy tried to do enough processing and manipulation of that image to keep it from being traced back. I had no luck with a regular Google image search on it. I found it by tracking the photographer and Nancy DID leave the copyright citation on the image.
 Quoting: Menow 41235377

It's just the negative image.

Converte it back (negative image again) extract the single photos and you can do a Google image search.

That's how I found the original from Ajay Talwar.
 Quoting: Hydra

I guess she does that negative stuff just to make things look more mysterious or something like that, since her "explanation" really makes no sense in the first place.
 Quoting: Menow 41235377

Exact this.


But look at all the crap in the lower part of the image here. At least the contrast has been fucked with:

[link to api.ning.com]
 Quoting: Menow 41235377

Flareberto is the master of lens flares and Pixel-Poli is the master of enhancing crappy images to more crappy images.

PP took the "thumbnail" image from Poleshit-Nancy and increased the gamma correction to a point beyond good and evil.
I have no clue why and what he want's to show with this.
But I'm sure as hell he will get the affirmation of the other poleshitters, that he made a great job.


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:roar: