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I wonder how far membership numbers have fallen.....
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320 total members as of today.

Wow...a whole 320.

According to alexa, the reach has dropped 28.51% in the last month and 50.86% in the last three months. Ranking has also dropped, it was around 111,000 a month or so ago and it's now 129,606. It's gotten so bad that it disappears off the bottom of the traffic rank chart.

Numbers for zetatalk are also dropping - reach is down 20.14% in the last month and 30.92% in the last three months. Traffic rank is also disappearing off the bottom of the chart and stands at 124,687.

As a comparison, GLP is ranked 3,970 with the numbers trending down a little bit.
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Hence, presumably, the reverse psychology attempt.....*you're simply sending more people to zt....working in their favour* etc. etc.....
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:)

Well the point is beyond me..

GLP is just one big conspiracy in and of itself.
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Meh, it's entertainment and should be treated as such.
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But in all honesty, this thread generates a lot of interest in zetatalk
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How exactly did you determine that? In my perception there isn't much interest in zetatalk anymore, period.
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NASA took to debunking Nancy...

Come on dude..
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Key word there "dude." Nancy used to be fairly well-known and popular. The trend of her group has been in a steady downward direction and I credit this group of people with a lot of that, particularly for causing her to flee to a place where she could have absolute control over the discussion.

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Nancy`s dirty little cult is done. But they`re still out and try to find new innocent victims. But most people can read and understand that this is just a little dangerous internet cult comparable to Heaven`s Gate.

Hence LIEDer is still getting money from the last gullible idiots on her page who have no clue about anything and come for lenseflare hunting. This alone shows that Nancy LIEDer is a professional scammer. 320 idiots and around 30-40 active morons .... but these simpletons are real fanaticists like the Kiwi-idiot here.

More than one years ago Nancy`s scam cult had more than 5000 members but I guess her 2012 scam was too obvious even for many of her often stupid followers. The poor cult people awoke and left this crappy cult. I bet this thread was a major player in destroying this scam cult. Many of the poor cult people realized that Nancy is pure scam and only BS is coming out of her mouth. And all this failing predictions did the rest...

Compared with Nancy LIEDer even Harold Camping or Blossom Goodchild would be real masters of predictions. But we all know they are not ... lol ...

Zwaan should stop this naughty fraud and close the Ning. Give them enough pills and even their last Nibiru will go home ...anonstirbsmeter
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But in all honesty, this thread generates a lot of interest in zetatalk
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How exactly did you determine that? In my perception there isn't much interest in zetatalk anymore, period.
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NASA took to debunking Nancy...

Come on dude..
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Key word there "dude." Nancy used to be fairly well-known and popular. The trend of her group has been in a steady downward direction and I credit this group of people with a lot of that, particularly for causing her to flee to a place where she could have absolute control over the discussion.
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It's that lack of debate on her forum which is so telling. Compliance and non questioning belief or the *bane* hammer.
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Cults and sects are always strictly censored

Lieder was posting sooooo much bullshit that her whole page stinks ... she can`t allow a free discussion or facing facts...
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Cults and sects are always strictly censored

Lieder was posting sooooo much bullshit that her whole page stinks ... she can`t allow a free discussion or facing facts...
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Which is why this thread is so important; there needs to be an alternative point of view from which one's own decision can be made & that can't happen on the poleshit Ning.
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Cults and sects are always strictly censored

Lieder was posting sooooo much bullshit that her whole page stinks ... she can`t allow a free discussion or facing facts...
 Quoting: D. 18637415


Which is why this thread is so important; there needs to be an alternative point of view from which one's own decision can be made & that can't happen on the poleshit Ning.
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People need hope.
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Cults and sects are always strictly censored

Lieder was posting sooooo much bullshit that her whole page stinks ... she can`t allow a free discussion or facing facts...
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Which is why this thread is so important; there needs to be an alternative point of view from which one's own decision can be made & that can't happen on the poleshit Ning.
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People need hope.
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Hope from such a dubious source as nancy? That's not hope, that's misguided grasping at non existent straws.
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The incredible dimwit pedalling his wares again.....

Thread: Weird Manetic Filaments outbreak all over Sun, No sunspots, kaboom coming (Page 5)
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1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1

I am systematically attacked [in the "Solar Data" thread] while the same people ask me for my opinion.
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1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1 1rof1

Thread: Weird Manetic Filaments outbreak all over Sun, No sunspots, kaboom coming (Page 4)

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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He's still bloody going......oh my days.......what a loser! A :))

I'm bored now.....time for tea! Happy weekend my friends xx

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Hey y'all debunkers.

Just wondering what the conclusion is on this video, as I don't know shit about astronomy



Apparently not the moon.. Per the YouTube comments..

Also here's a document from the US Naval Observatory going out to debunk Nancy's/Zeta's interpretation of Harrington's observations [link to file1.npage.de]

Zetatalk takes this a step further saying:
“A Phil Schneider assassination is evident, as is the death of Robert Harrington”.
In Blindsided, Mark Hazlewood says:
“What obvious message do you think was sent to Sitchin, Van Flandern and anyone else in the
know, when Harrington suddenly met with an early death at the same time the scope was being
pulled back? Sometimes an early death is meant to accomplish more than just keeping one person
quiet. “
Yes, more conspiracy theory on the cover-up of Planet X. The easy explanation why no astronomer
or scientist will support the silly Zeta planet.

And operation Planet X on the date given of the "2003 white lie" [link to en.wikipedia.org] which is congruent with the Zetas claims.

Though I distrust zetatalk because of the inaccuracies I perceive in it, this makes me take it much more seriously..
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Are ya still in high school? Stupid boy ...
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Are ya still in high school? Stupid boy ...
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Yes
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Are ya still in high school? Stupid boy ...
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Yes
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lol, sorry Pierre..

I should have said.. Oui Oui ;)
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Hey y'all debunkers.

Just wondering what the conclusion is on this video, as I don't know shit about astronomy
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Pretty classic lens flare, particularly as I *think* the one they are identifying as PX moves the opposite direction as everything else as the video continues. Since the motion of the sky is largely due to Earth's rotation, were it *actually* moving that way at that speed it'd leave the Solar System in one *great* hurry.

Though I distrust zetatalk because of the inaccuracies I perceive in it, this makes me take it much more seriously..
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It should not.

But if you feel the least apprehensive, you should definitely attend a star party in your neck of the woods. You'll learn a lot, and see the wonder that really is out there, rather than the fantasies of a little old scientifically illiterate lady in Wisconsin.
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Hey y'all debunkers.

Just wondering what the conclusion is on this video, as I don't know shit about astronomy
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Pretty classic lens flare, particularly as I *think* the one they are identifying as PX moves the opposite direction as everything else as the video continues. Since the motion of the sky is largely due to Earth's rotation, were it *actually* moving that way at that speed it'd leave the Solar System in one *great* hurry.

Though I distrust zetatalk because of the inaccuracies I perceive in it, this makes me take it much more seriously..
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It should not.

But if you feel the least apprehensive, you should definitely attend a star party in your neck of the woods. You'll learn a lot, and see the wonder that really is out there, rather than the fantasies of a little old scientifically illiterate lady in Wisconsin.
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Thanks for the reply, though I doubt you watched the video, I know a lens flare when I see one and this wasn't a classic lens flare, at the least a very odd lens flare

There was one light source, smaller which rose ( and was accompanied by lens flares ) Followed by the sun.. So what rose before the sun as apparently ( per YouTube ) it was not a full moon or any thing like that.

Also, please don't act as though you know every thing and are infallible, as you are most certainly not. Other wise you would have never been born to begin with
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Actually re-read your comment, sorry you probably did watch it. Though it doesn't look like a lens flare
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Hey y'all debunkers.

Just wondering what the conclusion is on this video, as I don't know shit about astronomy
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Pretty classic lens flare, particularly as I *think* the one they are identifying as PX moves the opposite direction as everything else as the video continues. Since the motion of the sky is largely due to Earth's rotation, were it *actually* moving that way at that speed it'd leave the Solar System in one *great* hurry.

Though I distrust zetatalk because of the inaccuracies I perceive in it, this makes me take it much more seriously..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41720417


It should not.

But if you feel the least apprehensive, you should definitely attend a star party in your neck of the woods. You'll learn a lot, and see the wonder that really is out there, rather than the fantasies of a little old scientifically illiterate lady in Wisconsin.
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Thanks for the reply,
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You're welcome.

though I doubt you watched the video, I know a lens flare when I see one and this wasn't a classic lens flare, at the least a very odd lens flare
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I did watch the video (else how could I have spotted the one moving backward?). I watched it again, and am honestly not certain which one you find convincing.

There was one light source, smaller which rose ( and was accompanied by lens flares ) Followed by the sun.. So what rose before the sun as apparently ( per YouTube ) it was not a full moon or any thing like that.
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I didn't see anything that looked remotely like a planet there. Also, given the fact that you could still see stars after the Sun was up, the exposure must be *way* weird. But I will let people who know more about optics and photography give their opinions. Mine is simply that it doesn't look that strange to me; and I don't really see naything that looks like a heavenly object.

Also, please don't act as though you know every thing and are infallible, as you are most certainly not. Other wise you would have never been born to begin with
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Now where did *that* come from?

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Are ya still in high school? Stupid boy ...
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Lol by the way, the All Blacks are giving the french a Hiding tonight..

Don't be so sore about it mate
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Hey y'all debunkers.

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Now where did *that* come from?
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Sorry mate, just your inability to meet me half way as an actual human being vs an anonymous poster frustrates me.

The sun comes up at the very end and blinds the screen and ends.. But I will take your word for as like I said, I dont know shit about astronomy
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Sorry mate, just your inability to meet me half way as an actual human being vs an anonymous poster frustrates me.
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My apologies for frustrating you -- it was not my intention.

The sun comes up at the very end and blinds the screen and ends.. But I will take your word for as like I said, I dont know shit about astronomy
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Again, if you get a chance to go to a star party near you, you won't regret it. The first time I saw the Orion Nebula in a telescope was breathtaking -- and the precision of the instruments and the march of the cosmos really altered my perspective forever. It's a very worthwhile experience.
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My apologies for frustrating you -- it was not my intention.

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Again, if you get a chance to go to a star party near you, you won't regret it. The first time I saw the Orion Nebula in a telescope was breathtaking -- and the precision of the instruments and the march of the cosmos really altered my perspective forever. It's a very worthwhile experience.
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I should by a telescope just to muck around and do some amateur stuff.

And apologies accepted, I skim read your post and missed the *think* so was my mistake.

And, who in their right mind would actually want Nibiru to be real!! Doesn't sound like a fun time.
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I should by a telescope just to muck around and do some amateur stuff.

And apologies accepted, I skim read your post and missed the *think* so was my mistake.

And, who in their right mind would actually want Nibiru to be real!! Doesn't sound like a fun time.
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Go to a star party sometime. You will see stuff like this here. This was through my 10" Dobsonian with a GoTo mount.


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I should by a telescope just to muck around and do some amateur stuff.
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Purchasing a telescope can be great fun, but start small. I liked the Meade ETX series -- though I have no idea if that is the current name -- it was a small tabletop GOTO scope, that could give tours, and for only a 3.5 inch made for some *remarkable* viewing, and all for around $300.

There was a book called 'Star Ware' that gave good primers on telescopes, too.

The nice thing about visiting a star party is usually some will have multi-thousand dollar telescopes to look through, and it won't cost you a thing!

And apologies accepted, I skim read your post and missed the *think* so was my mistake.
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Skimming and misreading is very easy in an environment such as this. I thank you for the explanation.

And, who in their right mind would actually want Nibiru to be real!! Doesn't sound like a fun time.
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Indeed. Yet many *do* wait for that, or some other global catastrophe to occur with apparent relish. They are, of course, always among the survivors of whatever cataclysm befalls, and live happily ever after in the hard post-apocalyptic world, fully prepared for what is to come because they've watched all the Mad Max moves at least twelve times.

And are willing to drill holes in their pee-pees. Let's not forget that.
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And are willing to drill holes in their pee-pees. Let's not forget that.
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Yes, that`s remarkable. Crazy Nancy makes complete idiots our of them. She`s not only telling them crazy shit but also attacking their pee-pees. I always thought that Zwaan has a big hole in his pee-pee. Now he`s writing some nonsense about bleeding trees. Perhaps this association comes from his lost dick.

The cult people are really crazy and willing to swallow every nonsense. Whenever I read Zwaan I think he`s in a mental a lunatic asylum and doing some therapeutic writing... lol....5aneener2
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Thanks for the reply, though I doubt you watched the video, I know a lens flare when I see one and this wasn't a classic lens flare, at the least a very odd lens flare
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There was nothing odd about it and very obviously a lens flare. If it was really a planet, then why doesn't it show up in photos taken from that same time period?

[link to blogs.voanews.com] (December 31, 2012)

[link to thelibertineezine.com] (January 2013)

[link to shawnrjones12.wordpress.com] (February 2013)

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I should by a telescope just to muck around and do some amateur stuff.

And apologies accepted, I skim read your post and missed the *think* so was my mistake.

And, who in their right mind would actually want Nibiru to be real!! Doesn't sound like a fun time.
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By all means - do. Nancy has been claiming for years that we "debunkers" don't want people looking up in the sky when the exact opposite is true. We've been challenging them for years to do just what you're talking about doing. Sadly, not one of them has ever done so...that we know of anyway. It's possible that some of them have and found out there's no "rogue planet" hovering by the sun after all and, instead of admitting their error, they simply quietly disappeared.
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Thanks for the reply, though I doubt you watched the video, I know a lens flare when I see one and this wasn't a classic lens flare, at the least a very odd lens flare
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There was nothing odd about it and very obviously a lens flare. If it was really a planet, then why doesn't it show up in photos taken from that same time period?

[link to blogs.voanews.com] (December 31, 2012)

[link to thelibertineezine.com] (January 2013)

[link to shawnrjones12.wordpress.com] (February 2013)
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ROTFL - you mad Bro? No way this is a lens flare.

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Thanks for the reply, though I doubt you watched the video, I know a lens flare when I see one and this wasn't a classic lens flare, at the least a very odd lens flare
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41720417

There was nothing odd about it and very obviously a lens flare. If it was really a planet, then why doesn't it show up in photos taken from that same time period?

[link to blogs.voanews.com] (December 31, 2012)

[link to thelibertineezine.com] (January 2013)

[link to shawnrjones12.wordpress.com] (February 2013)
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ROTFL - you mad Bro? No way this is a lens flare.


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Could you point out *specifically* what you're referring to when you say "No way this is a lens flare"? There's nothing out of the ordinary in that video, but there's many things in there that a typical Nibirutard will try to identify as Nibiru.

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