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Ahhhh my mistake (AGAIN) the video was from a fundamental atheist group!!! (not at all biased) ;)

Haha at least the atheists are some what better than the fundamental Christians, if we are going to judge and label people. Sorry for the mix up
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I'm not convinced of this one, but will post it up for interests sake.. (sounds very similar to Kiev)



Seems very fake, imo, but yeah.. here is the uploaders comment

"I'll tell you something ..this is not fake as I heard it with my own ears. Not all things can be explained with logic or pseudo scientific reasoning...I heard it ...I recorded it and I believe it. I can hear something strange right now outside my house ...it was in the news not long ago in New Zealand that thousands of people have been complaining about strange sounds that no one can explain."
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one of Nancy's new ravings -

"What would cause a quake to reach such a distance, across the entire Eurasian Plate during the Magnitude 8.2 quake on May 24, 2013 in the Sea of Okhotsk? Per the Zetas, the hook of land on the N American Plate that comes down from Alaska to touch Japan is very solid rock, and will not break off or fracture. Thus as the bowing of the N American Continent proceeds, this pressure is being transferred across the Eurasian Plate! Zetas right again!"


Nancy should keep well away from making any comments about quakes in the Pacific region, but still that has never stopped Nancy from putting her foot in her mouth before :)


First the boundary between Okhotsk Plate and Pacific Plate is a subduction zone.

Many strong megathrust earthquakes occurred here and will occur in the future.

Kamchatka earthquakes of 1737 (estimated M9.0~9.3)and
1952 (M9.0).

The Kuril Islands are included in this subduction zone, ie.
the M8.3 earthquake of November 15, 2006,

Hokkaido, as the M8.3 earthquake of September 26, 2003 and the M9.0 2011 Tōhoku earthquake off the coast of Honshu that created the great tsunami.

Nancy failed again!!
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one of Nancy's new ravings -

"What would cause a quake to reach such a distance, across the entire Eurasian Plate during the Magnitude 8.2 quake on May 24, 2013 in the Sea of Okhotsk? Per the Zetas, the hook of land on the N American Plate that comes down from Alaska to touch Japan is very solid rock, and will not break off or fracture. Thus as the bowing of the N American Continent proceeds, this pressure is being transferred across the Eurasian Plate! Zetas right again!"


Nancy should keep well away from making any comments about quakes in the Pacific region, but still that has never stopped Nancy from putting her foot in her mouth before :)


First the boundary between Okhotsk Plate and Pacific Plate is a subduction zone.

Many strong megathrust earthquakes occurred here and will occur in the future.

Kamchatka earthquakes of 1737 (estimated M9.0~9.3)and
1952 (M9.0).

The Kuril Islands are included in this subduction zone, ie.
the M8.3 earthquake of November 15, 2006,

Hokkaido, as the M8.3 earthquake of September 26, 2003 and the M9.0 2011 Tōhoku earthquake off the coast of Honshu that created the great tsunami.

Nancy failed again!!
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 41798958


It is it better to have tried and failed, then not to try at all?
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Geezjerkitjerkit shills don`t give up on debunker`s paradise no matter what. So pathetic, so obvious...
"Keep on rollin' baby, You know what time it is"ohyeah
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Geezjerkitjerkit shills don`t give up on debunker`s paradise no matter what. So pathetic, so obvious...
"Keep on rollin' baby, You know what time it is"ohyeah
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The Nibiru-is-coming Shills? I know, right?
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Ahhhh my mistake (AGAIN) the video was from a fundamental atheist group!!! (not at all biased) ;)

Haha at least the atheists are some what better than the fundamental Christians, if we are going to judge and label people. Sorry for the mix up
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What is "fundamental atheism"?
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Ahhhh my mistake (AGAIN) the video was from a fundamental atheist group!!! (not at all biased) ;)

Haha at least the atheists are some what better than the fundamental Christians, if we are going to judge and label people. Sorry for the mix up
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What is "fundamental atheism"?
 Quoting: phoomp


Here -

"Passion for passion, an evangelical Christian and I may be evenly matched. But we are not equally fundamentalist. The true scientist, however passionately he may 'believe', in evolution for example, knows exactly what would change his mind: evidence! The fundamentalist knows that nothing will."
- Richard Dawkins, "How dare you call me a fundamentalist"

There is, however, a need to remember that militant or fundamentalist atheism, which seeks to overturn religious belief by force, is as dangerous as any other form of fundamentalism. Atheism's most authentic political expression thus takes the form of state secularism, not state atheism.
- Julian Baggini, Atheism: A Very Short Introduction

In the broad version of atheism, people simply do not accept the basic premise of theism; in the narrower and more determined position, they believe that the theistic position is not only misguided but actively wrong. Sometimes this is called 'fundamentalist atheism'. (The concepts of fundamentalism and atheism should not really be mixed but critics and theistic apologists like to label the extreme end of atheism as 'fundamental'....)
- Nick Harding, How to Be a Good Atheist
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one of Nancy's new ravings -

"What would cause a quake to reach such a distance, across the entire Eurasian Plate during the Magnitude 8.2 quake on May 24, 2013 in the Sea of Okhotsk? Per the Zetas, the hook of land on the N American Plate that comes down from Alaska to touch Japan is very solid rock, and will not break off or fracture. Thus as the bowing of the N American Continent proceeds, this pressure is being transferred across the Eurasian Plate! Zetas right again!"


Nancy should keep well away from making any comments about quakes in the Pacific region, but still that has never stopped Nancy from putting her foot in her mouth before :)


First the boundary between Okhotsk Plate and Pacific Plate is a subduction zone.

Many strong megathrust earthquakes occurred here and will occur in the future.

Kamchatka earthquakes of 1737 (estimated M9.0~9.3)and
1952 (M9.0).

The Kuril Islands are included in this subduction zone, ie.
the M8.3 earthquake of November 15, 2006,

Hokkaido, as the M8.3 earthquake of September 26, 2003 and the M9.0 2011 Tōhoku earthquake off the coast of Honshu that created the great tsunami.

Nancy failed again!!
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 41798958


It is it better to have tried and failed, then not to try at all?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41966976


Bullshit is Bullshit, Chicken Little ran screaming "the sky is falling", Nancy screams "the zeta's are coming!" both are equally absurd.
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one of Nancy's new ravings -

Nancy should keep well away from making any comments about quakes in the Pacific region, but still that has never stopped Nancy from putting her foot in her mouth before :)


First the boundary between Okhotsk Plate and Pacific Plate is a subduction zone.

Many strong megathrust earthquakes occurred here and will occur in the future.

Kamchatka earthquakes of 1737 (estimated M9.0~9.3)and
1952 (M9.0).

The Kuril Islands are included in this subduction zone, ie.
the M8.3 earthquake of November 15, 2006,

Hokkaido, as the M8.3 earthquake of September 26, 2003 and the M9.0 2011 Tōhoku earthquake off the coast of Honshu that created the great tsunami.

Nancy failed again!!
 Quoting: prof-rabbit nli 41798958


It is it better to have tried and failed, then not to try at all?
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Tried what? Lying?
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silence of a good example.
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Alea iacta est.
Dum vivimus vivamus
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Geezjerkitjerkit shills don`t give up on debunker`s paradise no matter what. So pathetic, so obvious...
"Keep on rollin' baby, You know what time it is"ohyeah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41967230


Nope, what time is it?? I have yet to see *nobeeryou* or Indonesia sinking.......I only see pole shit membership falling.
energy cannot be destroyed, it can only be transformed.
Nothing is so potent as the silence of a good example.
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My cousin lives in Singapore right now because her husband is assigned to a Coast Guard station over there. Today, she took these two photos.

[link to www.flickr.com]
[link to www.flickr.com]

My questions are - where's "Planet X"? Where's the "second sun"? Ann S...if you're lurking about, perhaps you'd like to ask your mother queen why "Planet X" or the "second sun" don't show up in those photos. But be careful - if your master suspects you're using these photos in an attempt to discredit her, you'll find yourself kicked to the curb. So, be careful in how you ask the questions.

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But I wonder if an extraterrestrial body could interfere with the magnetic coer and hence cause additional stresses on the plates?? It is possible as an explanation, worthy of some consideration, but still, the jury is out on that one.

New article is interesting about new subduction zone in Spain. [link to www.livescience.com]

"A budding subduction zone offshore of Spain heralds the start of a new cycle that will one day pull the Atlantic Ocean seafloor into the bowels of the Earth, a new study suggests."

**note.. Not endorsing zetatalk.. Just curious as any earth scientist would be**

SOZT
Yes, there is movement in the Straits of Gibraltar, but the reasons these scientists surmise is hardly the cause. It is clear from the pattern of Continental Drift
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
that the African Plate is floating away from the Eurasian Plate. Why would it move in the other direction when the Ring of Fire is compressing and the Atlantic pulling apart! The African Rift Zone is increasing regularly, as current volcanic activity shows. Of course there were great earthquakes along the Mediterranean in the recent past, because the edges of the plates are not smooth so jolting occurs during any rolling of the African Plate.

Why are these scientists then drumming on the word SUBDUCTION to explain why Gibraltar is likely to stretch? Subduction implies being pushed TOGETHER. We have stressed that many people simply cannot face the trauma that the Earth has suffered in her recent past, every 3,600 years as her geology shows. The concept of crustal shifts is simply too frightening, so they refuse to consider this. Here once again we have scientists behaving illogically. In no way is the SPREADING of Gibraltar, here predicted by these scientists, caused by a subduction. To conclude this is illogical.
EOZT

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41903469


I haven’t been following this thread or ZetaTalk for a couple years so correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the “Straits of Gibraltar” supposed to be stretched by some 30 miles or so in 2012?

As for her attempts at explaining things in scientific terms, the problem is more often than not Nancy is “not even wrong”. If you are not sure about what I mean, please google that phrase.

In other words it is often difficult to discuss (falsify) scientifically ideas that are literlly made-up (not clearly defined or imaginary). For example, I just saw someone post something about her mention of "moon swirls". I have never heard this term before, but my guess is Nancy saw some type of swirling pattern in an image and decided to create her own term and then attribute that to Planet X. I'm not familiar with the "moon swirl" story so please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


I think you're right on that. Of course, in general, you could say almost any random statement and you would be right nearly as often and Nancy.
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@CB: You can`t see it because it doesn`t exist. As long as you don`t want to belong to a lenseflare religion its just pure fantasy for some cult members.

But I guess this is pathetic for them. They want to see something so they are making up their own lenseflares while everybody else is laughing.

Zwaan should close the Ning and stop the fraud. How many more years do the poor cult people want to wait till they realize that Nibiru only exists in stupid Nancy LIEDers ego.
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SOZT
Yes, there is movement in the Straits of Gibraltar, but the reasons these scientists surmise is hardly the cause. It is clear from the pattern of Continental Drift
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
that the African Plate is floating away from the Eurasian Plate. Why would it move in the other direction when the Ring of Fire is compressing and the Atlantic pulling apart! The African Rift Zone is increasing regularly, as current volcanic activity shows. Of course there were great earthquakes along the Mediterranean in the recent past, because the edges of the plates are not smooth so jolting occurs during any rolling of the African Plate.

Why are these scientists then drumming on the word SUBDUCTION to explain why Gibraltar is likely to stretch? Subduction implies being pushed TOGETHER. We have stressed that many people simply cannot face the trauma that the Earth has suffered in her recent past, every 3,600 years as her geology shows. The concept of crustal shifts is simply too frightening, so they refuse to consider this. Here once again we have scientists behaving illogically. In no way is the SPREADING of Gibraltar, here predicted by these scientists, caused by a subduction. To conclude this is illogical.
EOZT

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41903469

I haven’t been following this thread or ZetaTalk for a couple years so correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the “Straits of Gibraltar” supposed to be stretched by some 30 miles or so in 2012?
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


laugh
I love it when Nancy tries to talk about stuff she really has no idea about.
Mixing intensity (MSK) with magnitude (Richter), Divergence with Convergence, and now she blames the lack of her prediction to "frightened scientists".
lmao


You can see the Magnitude of her ego by the continous sucking of her own dick á la "Zetas right again".

Poor aliens... Instead of letting truth manifest itself (err, right, that didn't worked really well, see above) they need to call themselves "right again" all the time...

They don't appear to be very smart... not by their understanding of matters, nor by the way they formulate...
But maybe its all prefectly logical, considering a 70+ year old layman tries to be a scientist.

AND SHE FAILS AGAIN tounge

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I wonder why Ann S. got so silent. The Zetas aka Nancy told her that you can`t update your google-document.

Fail, fail, fail ... lol ...

Crazy Nancy needs her little helpers, pills ...

And if her followers also get enough medicine the Nibiru hoax will disappear too. Is there no health system in the USA ...lol...

Zwaan that bloody penis should close the Ning and stop the fraud ... jerkitjerkitpoop

Nancy`s little penis cult is done!
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I wonder why Ann S. got so silent. The Zetas aka Nancy told her that you can`t update your google-document.
 Quoting: Truther:


Ditto. She appears to be in critical state... now the others will either "set her straight", or she'll follow her own gut.

Time will tell..and if that wasn't enough, I will retighten the grip - being the fact that I am still the same person.

Actually Ninny couldn't have brought herself into more trouble than claiming I am somebody else.

It could be one of her last lies on the Ning - being a confirmation for the Moderators that she's blatantly lying - ergo she may have signed her last will by that claim.

So be it then. Karma is a bitch - only if you are one.

BTW: I tried to call Gerard on the day I updated, but he didn't responded...
Too bad "Ann" didn't left her number otherwise I would have instantly confronted her with the truth.
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Zwaan that bloody penis should close the Ning and stop the fraud ... jerkitjerkitpoop
 Quoting: Truther 41971523


Zwaan is actually a decent guy in my opinion.

Everyone has flaws... but he's not the type of system-indoctrinated-sheep and is actually pretty considerate.

The Ninny-thing can happen to a lot of people, although certain criteria have to be present "to get sucked in".
All people surely have tendencies in common, take their shared interest in "earth changes" for example.

ZetaTalk(NancyTalk) is just another religion out there..

Regarding closing the Ning I might agree, but why not just kick Jabba the hutt, unfreeze han-solo, and remove all the ZT-related crap?

The site could still post relevant news from around the world - just without the pragmatic premise of a poleshift without any evidence of such thing.

Nancy`s little penis cult is done!
 Quoting: Truther 41971523


Hey lets not get crazy here :D but yeah, she was done from the moment she chose lying at people in 95'.

Would you want to switch life with her?

Having to keep your lie alive for every breath you take because you piled up so much shite that you feel you cant return?
Go to sleep knowing you've still led people in a wrong direction transforming you more and more into that self-centered, egoistic, sith-lord that you ment to defeat as a kid?
Having to study peoples lazy-, emotional, private, or irrelevant- questions week after week in advance to make up "third-person babble" to feed peoples curiosity and always having to make sure you've done no mistake?


Phew.. that sounds like a pretty stressful life for me. (rather than just being honest)

If you ask me, Id rather be me. hf


EDIT:
Just saw Ann is back so far,
poleshift dot ning dot com/profiles/blogs/earth-wobble-watch

The CNN article about this carefully avoided revealing just how long this has been going on, maybe because this is caused by ground movements caused by the near presence of Planet X?
 Quoting: Ann S:24min ago


Hi Ann,
while the idea of the presence of another planet being responsible for earthquakes and such might seem considerable at first, I'd like to ask you in what kind of "energy" does this planet translates its influence upon earth?

I ask, because, well:
- if it were gravity, we would measure an abberation of gravity, not?
But yet the gravity is still all consistent with the distribution of mass and correlating density.
(See "Geoid" [link to upload.wikimedia.org] =a diagram of the gravitational distribution on earth based on Newtons law for gravity: g= G*M / r^2 ) - Red areas = increased gravity (more Mass/density), Blue areas = less gravity (less Mass/density). (dynamic processes, as thermic anomalies excluded)

- if it were magnetism, we would measure a magnetic pull in a certain direction, not?
Yet the magnetometers do not show such things.

- if it were kinetic energy we would have something crashing on us before it takes influence

- if it were heat, we'd have infra-red radiation 24/7, yet we dont.


So, please tell me, what kind of "energy" does this alleged planet have on us?

Note: If it is something you have to believe in order to take effect, we probably shouldn't worry about it.
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Sorry had to bring this up......pigchef


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I wonder why Ann S. got so silent. The Zetas aka Nancy told her that you can`t update your google-document.
 Quoting: Truther:


Ditto. She appears to be in critical state... now the others will either "set her straight", or she'll follow her own gut.

Time will tell..and if that wasn't enough, I will retighten the grip - being the fact that I am still the same person.

Actually Ninny couldn't have brought herself into more trouble than claiming I am somebody else.

It could be one of her last lies on the Ning - being a confirmation for the Moderators that she's blatantly lying - ergo she may have signed her last will by that claim.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Never underestimate the creativity of CRAZY…..it knows no bounds and is not constrained by the principles of logic or common sense.

If I were her I would simply play the “evil clone card”. Didn’t she conjure that idea during the Bush Administration? If memory serves, she even had several versions of the Bush Clones.

Regretfully, I must inform you that chances are you are an evil clone of a prior version of yourself. Sadly you may not even be aware of this metamorphosis. I’m not sure which alien species might be responsible for this, but my money is on the “BeanBaggians”. It would be just like them to steal your consciousness as part of a disinformation campaign. Although “Chickenmen” cannot be ruled out either.

However, maybe another one of the “variety of life forms” may be at work here. (see below)

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Never underestimate the creativity of CRAZY…..it knows no bounds and is not constrained by the principles of logic or common sense.
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That is true. But for it to work, you'll need to have both parties being crazy: Messenger, and reciever.

I like more the application of "cherry-picking" regarding this definition.
Ninny picks something, and the believers will pick what works for them.. (biases)


If I were her I would simply play the “evil clone card”. Didn’t she conjure that idea during the Bush Administration? If memory serves, she even had several versions of the Bush Clones.

Regretfully, I must inform you that chances are you are an evil clone of a prior version of yourself. Sadly you may not even be aware of this metamorphosis. I’m not sure which alien species might be responsible for this, but my money is on the “BeanBaggians”. It would be just like them to steal your consciousness as part of a disinformation campaign. Although “Chickenmen” cannot be ruled out either.

However, maybe another one of the “variety of life forms” may be at work here. (see below)

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Setheory 36555423


If I were her I would have simply stated the truth: CoS is still CoS but he's not a believer anymore (Plus some realistic allegations as to why).

Why pull out weird trumps?

But your idea would have been a good one for sure. Much harder (if not impossible) to debunk since it would be one of those theories based on prior invented theories PLUS useless details to make the whole thing seem more pin-pointed.

If you are cold-blodded - you could become Nancy's successor..
tounge

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My cousin lives in Singapore right now because her husband is assigned to a Coast Guard station over there. Today, she took these two photos.

[link to www.flickr.com]
[link to www.flickr.com]

My questions are - where's "Planet X"? Where's the "second sun"? Ann S...if you're lurking about, perhaps you'd like to ask your mother queen why "Planet X" or the "second sun" don't show up in those photos. But be careful - if your master suspects you're using these photos in an attempt to discredit her, you'll find yourself kicked to the curb. So, be careful in how you ask the questions.
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Good point, that is true, or she'll say use a filter or try a different time or some thing like that.

Nice photos btw dude.

I remember one time on C2C when a caller rang up and she gave her live zt and she told some poor dude in a prior incarnation he was an ugly woman, and her and Noory were having a good old laugh.

Lol a bit mean to laugh at some one like that (and put ideas in their heads that may not be true. But yeah.... you'd be pretty safe in Colorado either way
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Never underestimate the creativity of CRAZY…..it knows no bounds and is not constrained by the principles of logic or common sense.
 Quoting: Setheory 36555423


That is true. But for it to work, you'll need to have both parties being crazy: Messenger, and reciever.

I like more the application of "cherry-picking" regarding this definition.
Ninny picks something, and the believers will pick what works for them.. (biases)


If I were her I would simply play the “evil clone card”. Didn’t she conjure that idea during the Bush Administration? If memory serves, she even had several versions of the Bush Clones.

Regretfully, I must inform you that chances are you are an evil clone of a prior version of yourself. Sadly you may not even be aware of this metamorphosis. I’m not sure which alien species might be responsible for this, but my money is on the “BeanBaggians”. It would be just like them to steal your consciousness as part of a disinformation campaign. Although “Chickenmen” cannot be ruled out either.

However, maybe another one of the “variety of life forms” may be at work here. (see below)

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Setheory 36555423


If I were her I would have simply stated the truth: CoS is still CoS but he's not a believer anymore (Plus some realistic allegations as to why).

Why pull out weird trumps?

But your idea would have been a good one for sure. Much harder (if not impossible) to debunk since it would be one of those theories based on prior invented theories PLUS useless details to make the whole thing seem more pin-pointed.

If you are cold-blodded - you could become Nancy's successor..
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Never underestimate the creativity of CRAZY…..it knows no bounds and is not constrained by the principles of logic or common sense.
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That is true. But for it to work, you'll need to have both parties being crazy: Messenger, and reciever.

I like more the application of "cherry-picking" regarding this definition.
Ninny picks something, and the believers will pick what works for them.. (biases)


If I were her I would simply play the “evil clone card”. Didn’t she conjure that idea during the Bush Administration? If memory serves, she even had several versions of the Bush Clones.

Regretfully, I must inform you that chances are you are an evil clone of a prior version of yourself. Sadly you may not even be aware of this metamorphosis. I’m not sure which alien species might be responsible for this, but my money is on the “BeanBaggians”. It would be just like them to steal your consciousness as part of a disinformation campaign. Although “Chickenmen” cannot be ruled out either.

However, maybe another one of the “variety of life forms” may be at work here. (see below)

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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If I were her I would have simply stated the truth: CoS is still CoS but he's not a believer anymore (Plus some realistic allegations as to why).

Why pull out weird trumps?

But your idea would have been a good one for sure. Much harder (if not impossible) to debunk since it would be one of those theories based on prior invented theories PLUS useless details to make the whole thing seem more pin-pointed.

If you are cold-blodded - you could become Nancy's successor..
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NO Free energy battery packs for YOU after the pole shift!
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In Nancy's case?

No.
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I'd like to note the fact that Nancy Lieder and Zetatalk are pretty old news now, and she really can't do much more damage from her little ning. The BIGGER situation which deserves serious debunking and has real momentum and is affecting many lives, is the hoax of chemtrails. The chemmies are pretty organized and are pushing their nonsense on many fronts. They are beginning to suggest violence against pilots and aircraft and I think they are dangerous. Just my humble opinion.
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I think that, in the final analysis, Nancy's lasting legacy will be that she got people to believe in conspiracy. The bottom line in ALL these crazy beliefs people have, from 911 to no moon landings to Nibiru to chemtrails is that you MUST believe in massive, widespread conspiracy in order to preserve your beliefs in those stories. Belief in conspiracy is what allows one to dismiss all contrary evidence as being "part of the coverup". Think about it. It is the ONE common denominator of all those belief systems. Those who believe those stories ALL believe that anyone who speaks out against them and provides countering info is a "PAID SHILL".

Sad truth is, the more we try to show how certain things are wrong, the more it strengthens the believers resolve that they MUST be RIGHT. THAT is Nancy Lieder's true legacy.
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I think that, in the final analysis, Nancy's lasting legacy will be that she got people to believe in conspiracy. The bottom line in ALL these crazy beliefs people have, from 911 to no moon landings to Nibiru to chemtrails is that you MUST believe in massive, widespread conspiracy in order to preserve your beliefs in those stories. Belief in conspiracy is what allows one to dismiss all contrary evidence as being "part of the coverup". Think about it. It is the ONE common denominator of all those belief systems. Those who believe those stories ALL believe that anyone who speaks out against them and provides countering info is a "PAID SHILL".

Sad truth is, the more we try to show how certain things are wrong, the more it strengthens the believers resolve that they MUST be RIGHT. THAT is Nancy Lieder's true legacy.
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Good post. Belief in conspiracy needs paranoia to exist, paranoia is bred from insecurity which is bred from lack of education. Too many facts are available without the knowledge to comprehend the true meaning.
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Sorry had to bring this up......pigchef


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You can always be sure someone will start a thread like this around the solstice. It happens every year since I started coming to this site. It's a GLP tradition.
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NO Free energy battery packs for YOU after the pole shift!
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NO pole shift for YOU after no pole shift! cool2
P.S: I doubt any intelligent entity would give you something for your blunt repeating of your beliefs without any argumentation whatsoever.


I'd like to note the fact that Nancy Lieder and Zetatalk are pretty old news now, and she really can't do much more damage from her little ning. The BIGGER situation which deserves serious debunking and has real momentum and is affecting many lives, is the hoax of chemtrails. The chemmies are pretty organized and are pushing their nonsense on many fronts. They are beginning to suggest violence against pilots and aircraft and I think they are dangerous. Just my humble opinion.
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Good point..
Although, apart from Nancy, there are a lot of other "Nib-tards"... but yeah, I was thinking along those lines and guessing how debunking could be even more effectively done, since for one debunked claim, a thousand others pop up.

An idea was to create a page, where people can post stuff to be debunked and other people could vote, wether it was debunked carefully, or wether is still lacking evidence or not debunked at all..

The goal is, to prevent having to debunk the same claims over and over again..so lets say, if the chem-trail BS was debunked once, it would surely get its poplar link somewhere on the "most frequent questions" or so..


Just an idea...

(Which does not includes those theories you can't discuss at all (something like invisible metal boxes mitigating immaginary changes)...

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NO pole shift for YOU after no pole shift! cool2
P.S: I doubt any intelligent entity would give you something for your blunt repeating of your beliefs without any argumentation whatsoever.


I'd like to note the fact that Nancy Lieder and Zetatalk are pretty old news now, and she really can't do much more damage from her little ning. The BIGGER situation which deserves serious debunking and has real momentum and is affecting many lives, is the hoax of chemtrails. The chemmies are pretty organized and are pushing their nonsense on many fronts. They are beginning to suggest violence against pilots and aircraft and I think they are dangerous. Just my humble opinion.
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Good point..
Although, apart from Nancy, there are a lot of other "Nib-tards"... but yeah, I was thinking along those lines and guessing how debunking could be even more effectively done, since for one debunked claim, a thousand others pop up.

An idea was to create a page, where people can post stuff to be debunked and other people could vote, wether it was debunked carefully, or wether is still lacking evidence or not debunked at all..

The goal is, to prevent having to debunk the same claims over and over again..so lets say, if the chem-trail BS was debunked once, it would surely get its poplar link somewhere on the "most frequent questions" or so..


Just an idea...

(Which does not includes those theories you can't discuss at all (something like invisible metal boxes mitigating immaginary changes)...
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Yes, the problem with debunking Zetatalk has always been that Nancy would never admit to anything having been proven wrong. From the very beginning she would make a claim(false) , declare it proven, and then build on that. Her story is constructed of one falsehood built on another and preserved on her website where anyone reading it will never be exposed to the explanations of why what she says is wrong.

The apparent reason behind the contrailscience and metabunk forum sites was to have a place to preserve debunking efforts and refer back to the work previously done. Now, however, the chemtrail believers simply dismiss anything there as "shill" sites. Challenging them to point out anything there which is false gets no response. I have been told that "EVERYTHING there is wrong". When asked for specifics you get nothing. Check out those sites for ideas about debunking in general and LOTS of specific debunking of specific chemtrail beliefs.
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Sorry had to bring this up......pigchef


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You can always be sure someone will start a thread like this around the solstice. It happens every year since I started coming to this site. It's a GLP tradition.
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Yup. And anyone who explains it is a "shill."
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