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You can always be sure someone will start a thread like this around the solstice. It happens every year since I started coming to this site. It's a GLP tradition.
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Yup. And anyone who explains it is a "shill."
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Well, I guess the kooks did something bad enough to get the entire thread deleted. Frankly, I'm not surprised, a couple of them were becoming increasingly unhinged and angry at me. Oh well, I went ahead and made my own thread about the subject...
Thread: Solstice sunrise - the sun rose where it should have!
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The idiotic OP (Ressurrector) posted more than 180 times in a row something like "GLP defeated".

Not a paying member any more - guess he has some free time.

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LOL, that's even more unhinged than I saw him when I last looked at the thread. That certainly explains it, sounds quite well-deserved to me. While I will miss the thread... all's well that ends well.
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I'm a bit sorry to see that thread go -- I was having a bit of fun being the Great and Powerful 74444 -- Prime Mover of the Sun.
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Heh, I was even going to repeat my observation just to show that you were indeed moving the sun south, and then maybe whip up some primitive "monument" in your honor for saving us northerners from an eternal summer.
But if the OP was spamming his own thread, then I am quite convinced he *wanted* to get it taken down. Perhaps he'd become a bit too embarrassed about his more absurd claims, or the ease of observations to the contrary.
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I'm a bit sorry to see that thread go -- I was having a bit of fun being the Great and Powerful 74444 -- Prime Mover of the Sun.
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Heh, I was even going to repeat my observation just to show that you were indeed moving the sun south, and then maybe whip up some primitive "monument" in your honor for saving us northerners from an eternal summer.
But if the OP was spamming his own thread, then I am quite convinced he *wanted* to get it taken down. Perhaps he'd become a bit too embarrassed about his more absurd claims, or the ease of observations to the contrary.
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:dogagree:
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Awwwwwwwww make the monument anyway so the suntards can worship

worship 7
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worship 4
worship 4
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LOL OMG

NANCY LIEDER AND RUSSIAN TV COLLAB...


Haha sorry guys thats so freaking sweet!!! Hahah what u have always wanted... Media exposure.

"Nancy will be on the Delo X show on Russian TV on June 26, 2013 at 12:50 Moscow Time discussing visitations and hybrid babies. In Russian except for Nancy's portion. Archive will be available. Nancy was also featured on Ren TV on January 3, 2013. In Russian." - Pinned on the ning

Haha, I for one am happy for Nancy, the hybridization idea always intrigued me.

I would absolutely love to see Larry King interview Nancy Lieder, but that would be too good too be true.
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I'm a bit sorry to see that thread go -- I was having a bit of fun being the Great and Powerful 74444 -- Prime Mover of the Sun.
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Heh, I was even going to repeat my observation just to show that you were indeed moving the sun south, and then maybe whip up some primitive "monument" in your honor for saving us northerners from an eternal summer.
But if the OP was spamming his own thread, then I am quite convinced he *wanted* to get it taken down. Perhaps he'd become a bit too embarrassed about his more absurd claims, or the ease of observations to the contrary.
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dogagree
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Awwwwwwwww make the monument anyway so the suntards can worship

worship 7
worship 4
worship 4
worship 4
worship 4
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LOL. Thank you, both. That made my day.
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No need to warn us that you're a shill. We know.
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LOL OMG

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Haha sorry guys thats so freaking sweet!!! Hahah what u have always wanted... Media exposure.

"Nancy will be on the Delo X show on Russian TV on June 26, 2013 at 12:50 Moscow Time discussing visitations and hybrid babies. In Russian except for Nancy's portion. Archive will be available. Nancy was also featured on Ren TV on January 3, 2013. In Russian." - Pinned on the ning

Haha, I for one am happy for Nancy, the hybridization idea always intrigued me.

I would absolutely love to see Larry King interview Nancy Lieder, but that would be too good too be true.
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Larry King interviewing Nancy?
lol! In her dreams maybe..

You don't ask yourself why they "only" discuss hybrids and visitations?

I'll give you a tip:
Even if Nancy were on Fox-News or any other Mainstream-media - it would still not change the facts that:

- Earth is not halted in its Orbit,
- a 7/10 never happened and there are is no evidence it ever will,
- there's no evidence of Planet X or crustal shifts,
- etc. etc.

So basically they will be speculating and it wouldn't be unusual for media-outlets to pick up on such whackos - because, well, they are entertaining and allow people to phantasize.

Did you never saw "Ghosts" or other "paranormal stuff" to be discussed on TV?

Nancy is still a nobody (and probably will always be) and not really making any difference world-wide, despite her alleged connections to "mighty aliens".

So yeah.. for the believers it might be a highlight, but for us its merely non-sensial. - Or at least for me, because the only "insights" you will get there, are Nancy's phantasies..

Hybrids and Visitations - it probably couldn't get any more intagible..

Interesting would be to invite Nancy to be confronted with scientists.
That would be truely interesting because there you would actually see how her theories can stand critique - which is not at all.

And thats why, she will talk about her colored phantasies rather than talking about anything concrete.

I don't need to listen to her phantasy anymore...but if she names anything concrete - I welcome anyone to bring it up so we can debunk the shit for what it is.

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She won`t say anything concrete, because it would fail.

She`s an old scammer and as you`ve said sometimes the media are picking out some wackos and maddleheads to make their jokes with them. Nobody will take that serious, as it`s only for entertaining and mocking these wackos.

The people want to lean back, drink their beer and say, hey who`s that crazy old scumbag babbling BS ...

I bet it`s a kind of b-movie-entertainment or a kind of comedy show ...

Nancy`s nonsense would be a comedy but dangerous for the gullible and with the abusive tendencies of a cult or sect.
At least for people who can think normally it will be a great comedy ...
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She won`t say anything concrete, because it would fail.

She`s an old scammer and as you`ve said sometimes the media are picking out some wackos and maddleheads to make their jokes with them. Nobody will take that serious, as it`s only for entertaining and mocking these wackos.

The people want to lean back, drink their beer and say, hey who`s that crazy old scumbag babbling BS ...

I bet it`s a kind of b-movie-entertainment or a kind of comedy show ...

Nancy`s nonsense would be a comedy but dangerous for the gullible and with the abusive tendencies of a cult or sect.
At least for people who can think normally it will be a great comedy ...

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Ditto. And because there are a lot of gullible people watching TV - and because Nancy constructed her theories in such a deceptive way (including her faked appearance of that granny who could never lie) - AND because giving a one-sided opinion is further misleading people, Nancy should not even get an appearance on farest outlandish-backland-local Newspaper.

But then? There's BS all over the TV anyway.. beside I heared from "Delo X" for the first time when AC brought it up..

Delo X and Planet X... they make a good team for sure.
cool2 ahh folks... entertainment these days..
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Interesting would be to invite Nancy to be confronted with scientists.

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Nope... been done before. It's impossible to win because Nancy has way too much BS compiled in one place to ever dissassemble it in any short interview. AND... the basic response which comes to the lips of any scientist is that it's utter nonsense.... because it IS. Problem is, that gives Nancy the 'out' of claiming that the scientists don't have any real answers or are "scared of the message" and such. It is of major importance that Nancy's claims ARE so ridiculous, but that you have to know some science to see through them. It invites lots of insults which can be spun into a claim that there is an organized opposition to her story. Again... it is the conspiracy aspect which is most important.
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She won`t say anything concrete, because it would fail.


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Yes, but there is really nothing Nancy could say which she couldn't figure a way out of... a "spin" to explain it away. It just goes to show how language can be so easily manipulated to distort reality.
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Interesting would be to invite Nancy to be confronted with scientists.

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Nope... been done before. It's impossible to win because Nancy has way too much BS compiled in one place to ever dissassemble it in any short interview. AND... the basic response which comes to the lips of any scientist is that it's utter nonsense.... because it IS. Problem is, that gives Nancy the 'out' of claiming that the scientists don't have any real answers or are "scared of the message" and such. It is of major importance that Nancy's claims ARE so ridiculous, but that you have to know some science to see through them. It invites lots of insults which can be spun into a claim that there is an organized opposition to her story. Again... it is the conspiracy aspect which is most important.
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Spot on Menow!
You're right.. although I still think a discussion with scientists could take place...
(I imagine a confrontation "live" on TV... not on Usenet or some chatroom. )

Nancy of course can find a way around every statement, BUT, the lenghts she would have to go in order to, for example, talk around the fact that Gibraltar is closening instead of widening - would be very obvious to many people as to who is trying to evade being precise.

Scientists could offer tons of data,
Nancy could offer claims of a cover-up and simulated whatever.

Yes some people would choose Nancy over the scientist but that is, because as you said, due to the conspiracy aspect aka. a psychosomatic issue.

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Interesting would be to invite Nancy to be confronted with scientists.

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Nope... been done before. It's impossible to win because Nancy has way too much BS compiled in one place to ever dissassemble it in any short interview. AND... the basic response which comes to the lips of any scientist is that it's utter nonsense.... because it IS. Problem is, that gives Nancy the 'out' of claiming that the scientists don't have any real answers or are "scared of the message" and such. It is of major importance that Nancy's claims ARE so ridiculous, but that you have to know some science to see through them. It invites lots of insults which can be spun into a claim that there is an organized opposition to her story. Again... it is the conspiracy aspect which is most important.
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Spot on Menow!
You're right.. although I still think a discussion with scientists could take place...
(I imagine a confrontation "live" on TV... not on Usenet or some chatroom. )

Nancy of course can find a way around every statement, BUT, the lenghts she would have to go in order to, for example, talk around the fact that Gibraltar is closening instead of widening - would be very obvious to many people as to who is trying to evade being precise.

Scientists could offer tons of data,
Nancy could offer claims of a cover-up and simulated whatever.

Yes some people would choose Nancy over the scientist but that is, because as you said, due to the conspiracy aspect aka. a psychosomatic issue.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


I envision what an interesting experience it would be to have Nancy and some of her closest followers in person at my telescope on a nice clear evening with plenty of planets and the moon available to view. Hap made a similar offer to Nancy, very generously, and of course she never took him up on it and never would, even acting like such an offer was never made.

I would love to see her try to explain to her followers how it is that earth is halted in its orbit when in fact the planets' positions relative to the stars are perfectly consistent with where they're predicted to be given earth's orbit as well as the planets' orbits.

Of course it will go back to the conspiracy angle; the planetarium software part of the cover-up, my telescope's software is part of the cover-up, etc. but then I whip out decades old books, some even older, showing how to calculate their positions using analytical methods that are right there in print, showing that those calculations agree with the current positions of the planets right then and there. Of course they'd still chalk it up to some "conspiracy" involving me, it'd be some "trick" in their minds, but it might just instill enough cognitive dissonance that they have difficulty completely resolving it just by growing the conspiracy in their minds.

And that is why Nancy would never agree to such a confrontation.
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Interesting would be to invite Nancy to be confronted with scientists.

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Nope... been done before. It's impossible to win because Nancy has way too much BS compiled in one place to ever dissassemble it in any short interview. AND... the basic response which comes to the lips of any scientist is that it's utter nonsense.... because it IS. Problem is, that gives Nancy the 'out' of claiming that the scientists don't have any real answers or are "scared of the message" and such. It is of major importance that Nancy's claims ARE so ridiculous, but that you have to know some science to see through them. It invites lots of insults which can be spun into a claim that there is an organized opposition to her story. Again... it is the conspiracy aspect which is most important.
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Spot on Menow!
You're right.. although I still think a discussion with scientists could take place...
(I imagine a confrontation "live" on TV... not on Usenet or some chatroom. )

Nancy of course can find a way around every statement, BUT, the lenghts she would have to go in order to, for example, talk around the fact that Gibraltar is closening instead of widening - would be very obvious to many people as to who is trying to evade being precise.

Scientists could offer tons of data,
Nancy could offer claims of a cover-up and simulated whatever.

Yes some people would choose Nancy over the scientist but that is, because as you said, due to the conspiracy aspect aka. a psychosomatic issue.
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Nope. Anything presented would just fall under a blanket denial that they are just part of the conspiracy. Look what she has done to Phil Plait.
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Interesting would be to invite Nancy to be confronted with scientists.

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Nope... been done before. It's impossible to win because Nancy has way too much BS compiled in one place to ever dissassemble it in any short interview. AND... the basic response which comes to the lips of any scientist is that it's utter nonsense.... because it IS. Problem is, that gives Nancy the 'out' of claiming that the scientists don't have any real answers or are "scared of the message" and such. It is of major importance that Nancy's claims ARE so ridiculous, but that you have to know some science to see through them. It invites lots of insults which can be spun into a claim that there is an organized opposition to her story. Again... it is the conspiracy aspect which is most important.
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Spot on Menow!
You're right.. although I still think a discussion with scientists could take place...
(I imagine a confrontation "live" on TV... not on Usenet or some chatroom. )

Nancy of course can find a way around every statement, BUT, the lenghts she would have to go in order to, for example, talk around the fact that Gibraltar is closening instead of widening - would be very obvious to many people as to who is trying to evade being precise.

Scientists could offer tons of data,
Nancy could offer claims of a cover-up and simulated whatever.

Yes some people would choose Nancy over the scientist but that is, because as you said, due to the conspiracy aspect aka. a psychosomatic issue.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


I envision what an interesting experience it would be to have Nancy and some of her closest followers in person at my telescope on a nice clear evening with plenty of planets and the moon available to view. Hap made a similar offer to Nancy, very generously, and of course she never took him up on it and never would, even acting like such an offer was never made.

I would love to see her try to explain to her followers how it is that earth is halted in its orbit when in fact the planets' positions relative to the stars are perfectly consistent with where they're predicted to be given earth's orbit as well as the planets' orbits.

Of course it will go back to the conspiracy angle; the planetarium software part of the cover-up, my telescope's software is part of the cover-up, etc. but then I whip out decades old books, some even older, showing how to calculate their positions using analytical methods that are right there in print, showing that those calculations agree with the current positions of the planets right then and there. Of course they'd still chalk it up to some "conspiracy" involving me, it'd be some "trick" in their minds, but it might just instill enough cognitive dissonance that they have difficulty completely resolving it just by growing the conspiracy in their minds.

And that is why Nancy would never agree to such a confrontation.
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It all comes down to whether an individual can understand the explanations of why Nancy is wrong. Do they have the background for it? Do they even CARE about any valid scientific explanation?

She isn't trolling for the educated or those with good critical thinking or science skills.
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Interesting would be to invite Nancy to be confronted with scientists.

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Nope... been done before. It's impossible to win because Nancy has way too much BS compiled in one place to ever dissassemble it in any short interview. AND... the basic response which comes to the lips of any scientist is that it's utter nonsense.... because it IS. Problem is, that gives Nancy the 'out' of claiming that the scientists don't have any real answers or are "scared of the message" and such. It is of major importance that Nancy's claims ARE so ridiculous, but that you have to know some science to see through them. It invites lots of insults which can be spun into a claim that there is an organized opposition to her story. Again... it is the conspiracy aspect which is most important.
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Spot on Menow!
You're right.. although I still think a discussion with scientists could take place...
(I imagine a confrontation "live" on TV... not on Usenet or some chatroom. )

Nancy of course can find a way around every statement, BUT, the lenghts she would have to go in order to, for example, talk around the fact that Gibraltar is closening instead of widening - would be very obvious to many people as to who is trying to evade being precise.

Scientists could offer tons of data,
Nancy could offer claims of a cover-up and simulated whatever.

Yes some people would choose Nancy over the scientist but that is, because as you said, due to the conspiracy aspect aka. a psychosomatic issue.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


I envision what an interesting experience it would be to have Nancy and some of her closest followers in person at my telescope on a nice clear evening with plenty of planets and the moon available to view. Hap made a similar offer to Nancy, very generously, and of course she never took him up on it and never would, even acting like such an offer was never made.

I would love to see her try to explain to her followers how it is that earth is halted in its orbit when in fact the planets' positions relative to the stars are perfectly consistent with where they're predicted to be given earth's orbit as well as the planets' orbits.

Of course it will go back to the conspiracy angle; the planetarium software part of the cover-up, my telescope's software is part of the cover-up, etc. but then I whip out decades old books, some even older, showing how to calculate their positions using analytical methods that are right there in print, showing that those calculations agree with the current positions of the planets right then and there. Of course they'd still chalk it up to some "conspiracy" involving me, it'd be some "trick" in their minds, but it might just instill enough cognitive dissonance that they have difficulty completely resolving it just by growing the conspiracy in their minds.

And that is why Nancy would never agree to such a confrontation.
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Wait......no it's a TRAP

How would she explain the penis plugs to all those guys?
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It all comes down to whether an individual can understand the explanations of why Nancy is wrong. Do they have the background for it? Do they even CARE about any valid scientific explanation?

She isn't trolling for the educated or those with good critical thinking or science skills.
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I was going to say this, yes..
Many people are (to put it in simple terms) lazy folks who feel comfortable relying on others who do their thinking.

But to bring in Dr.Astros example to elaborate my point: There are things that can be understood without any (special) education.

If Nancy claims HaleBopp was a supernova and you'd have the possibility to let a believer track the comet for several days, WITH HIS OWN EYES, he will either agree to the fact it is a comet or he'll, as you said, fall under a deep blanket of denial.

Surely denial can be rampant.. but its not impossible to break it either.
Take me, who was a fervent believer until I started to notice increasing inconsistencies in my belief, topped by so obvious confirmation (as the visual confirmation during the "Maria-BlackOps-BS" for example).

At some point the threshold becomes so obvious like it is currently with IDW:
You are faced with so much solid inaccuracies in your statements that you either just remain on your standpoint for the sake of maintaining your ego, or you actually admit that you've been wrong.

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At some point the threshold becomes so obvious like it is currently with IDW:
You are faced with so much solid inaccuracies in your statements that you either just remain on your standpoint for the sake of maintaining your ego, or you actually admit that you've been wrong.
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Guess we know which egotistical choice Nancy made, eh?

Thanks to everyone on the last couple of pages -- some good insights there.
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LOL OMG

NANCY LIEDER AND RUSSIAN TV COLLAB...


Haha sorry guys thats so freaking sweet!!! Hahah what u have always wanted... Media exposure.

"Nancy will be on the Delo X show on Russian TV on June 26, 2013 at 12:50 Moscow Time discussing visitations and hybrid babies. In Russian except for Nancy's portion. Archive will be available. Nancy was also featured on Ren TV on January 3, 2013. In Russian." - Pinned on the ning

Haha, I for one am happy for Nancy, the hybridization idea always intrigued me.

I would absolutely love to see Larry King interview Nancy Lieder, but that would be too good too be true.
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Lol.....


But this is still pretty great,

I found it funny how she was right into the Russian tv. with the latest 7 of 10 status and now she is going to be appearing for a second time on Russian TV.

You guys should be happy!! Because the Russians seem like a street wise kind of country haha, hopefully they will be able to discern the truth and it will be a win-win scenario for every one!!!! The debunkers will be happy that Nancy was publicly put on blast, so to speak, and Nancy will be happy to spread her message.

So happy for you guys! :D
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Just thought about it this..

Nancy is basically straight famous!!!

>You guys obsess over her like Die Hard Justin Bieber fans hahaha, (except you hate her, not love her)

>She was called out by NASA by name

>She gonna be on TV.

>She has two websites that show up on Google in the top 5 results when ever you search for earth changes, or sink hole increase.. you know..

Now.... Either earth changes are happening and are being covered up by the media to some extent.... OR some one is propagating lies pertaining to earth changes in order to create a conspiracy, which would lead to the next question, why?

Lol, I really hope Nancy take off in Russia, makes it to the big time Russian news, because no harm could possibly come from it!! Either, she would be exposed or the truth would be exposed.

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"Larry King bravely takes on the UFO subject and shows there really is something going on. Extraordinary guests:Fife Symington, Colonel Chuck Halt, United States Air Force, retired, Sergeant Jim Pennison, United States Air Force, retired, James Fox, filmmaker, Nick Pope who For 21 years ran the British government's UFO project at the Ministry of Defence, Shirley MacClaine, John Callahan, the former division chief of accidents and investigations branch of the FAA in Washington, and James McGaha, he is an amateur astronomer and retired United States Air Force pilot and skeptic about all of this. They discuss Jimmy Carter, Kucinich, Roswell, Rendelsham forest/bentwaters, and much more" - up loaders description

lol larry king must be a believer in Da ETs



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The need to educate the public about the impact the coming Pole Shift will have is paramount in many minds. But likewise the awareness that politicians will stonewall the impact, denying that the public must leave the coastlines or can anticipate rapidly rising seas. Drastic climate change will likewise be stonewalled, as where some countries will gain a better climate, others will not. Migration is a huge worry among politicians, who fear the populace of India and Indonesia will flee by any means possible. How to simultaneously educate the public with the ZetaTalk message, which the political elite of the world fear is more accurate than not, while preventing panic and rioting?

Larry King is expected to challenge politicians from Russia and the US with frank questions on his new show. If the politicians wave aside questions about the accuracy of ZetaTalk predictions, geological evidence of past cataclysms, and current trends they will at least have heard what the politicians are refusing to address. This allows the public to do their own research. The public will be educated by this process. Is Larry King the last such celebrity to assume such a role on the eve of the announcement admitting the near presence of Nibiru, aka Planet X? Anticipate other such celebrities, known in other cultures, in similar roles soon.


Maybe russia will play a major role in disclosure (not necessarily of Nibiru, but hopefully ETs, Lol..
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lol last post....

Already seems like Russia are doing all right..



Annnnd another ZT comment on russian stuff lol..

ZetaTalk Comment 5/25/2013:
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Putin and the Russian government are looking beyond the anticipated announcement by Obama admitting the near presence of Nibiru. Especially in Russia, where ZetaTalk is well known and well respected, there is bound to be concern over the anticipated flooding that Siberia and eastern Russia will experience after the Pole Shift. What will the Russian government do about this? Mass relocation? Floating cities? Will they argue that ZetaTalk is wrong in its prediction, while simultaneously allowing full access to the ZetaTalk message and the accuracy of its prior predictions? We have stressed that citizens must look to themselves, and not their governments, for assistance during the coming times. Self-sufficiency must be the guideline. Merely discussing these matters will spur the public to such action, as they sort out their alternatives. These discussions, on this new independent TV station, are expected to be heated and filled with information. A good move by the Russian government.


Maybe Nancy deserves more credit??
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fuck Phil Plait lol
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Just thought about it this..

Nancy is basically straight famous!!!

>You guys obsess over her like Die Hard Justin Bieber fans hahaha, (except you hate her, not love her)
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Not true. I also debunk anyone who spreads astronomical nonsense. Terral, Donnie Gilson, skyview "team," etc, they all receive my attention for their nonsense. I do not simply fixate on Nancy, she is simply one of many. In fact, I haven't given her much attention in recent months compared to other claims.
>She was called out by NASA by name
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So have I, but unlike her I was acknowledged in a positive way. Wish I could tell you more, but then I would have to tell you my real name (it's not Phil plait). Let's just say I made an amateur contribution to an ongoing nasa mission that earned a spot on the official mission photo gallery.
>She gonna be on TV.
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So was Marshall Applewhite.
>She has two websites that show up on Google in the top 5 results when ever you search for earth changes, or sink hole increase.. you know..
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So what? It's filled with tons of debunked claims.
Now.... Either earth changes are happening and are being covered up by the media to some extent.... OR some one is propagating lies pertaining to earth changes in order to create a conspiracy, which would lead to the next question, why?
 Quoting: kiwi

Or Nancy is just a crazy old cult leader who thinks planets are playing peek a boo with the sun, but only if you use a shitty camera, and the earth is halted in orbit because of it, with a "devastating pole shit" always right around the corner even though 2012 was too far out. She needs new material.

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I SENSE........ JEALOUSY!!!!

MUAHAHAHAHAH

joooooooookkkkeeesss...

astro nerd, don't take it so serious.... KIDDING, im sure you're not a nerd and if you were i would still love you any ways brother...

but for real, who cares... its good news!!! thought you'd be happy for Nancy, the russians will see through any lies haha so dont worry your pretty lil head over that, yo!

ALIEN DISCLOSURE IS THE BEST RESULT THAT COULD LEAK FROM RUSSIAN TV.. lol dont know why caps. Smell the coffee
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Now.... Either earth changes are happening and are being covered up by the media to some extent.... OR some one is propagating lies pertaining to earth changes in order to create a conspiracy, which would lead to the next question, why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42277914

Or Nancy is just a crazy old cult leader who thinks planets are playing peek a boo with the sun, but only if you use a shitty camera, and the earth is halted in orbit because of it, with a "devastating pole shit" always right around the corner even though 2012 was too far out. She needs new material.
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lol its ALWAYS back to Nancy with you!!!! ugh, broken record much...?

"The media has virtually IGNORED all indications our earth is changing EQ swarms, volcanic activity, increased storm activity, strange weather, increased sink holes all over and near new Madrid fault line, why?" - from a thread.

I can see EVIDENCE (not PROOF) that this statement/question above has some truth.. And if it is not true then why is it being propagated on the internet, ya dig??

I don't like doom man, I'd rather kick back and have a good time you know, but gotta keep up with the rapidly changing times.
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I SENSE........ JEALOUSY!!!!

MUAHAHAHAHAH
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Well you're pretty tone deaf then. Being called out by NASA because you're that epically wrong and that misleading to people is not something I envy or would consider a positive thing. I'm quite happy about who I am and the accomplishments I have under my belt. I'm not interested in fame, Lieder quite clearly is though.
astro nerd, don't take it so serious.... KIDDING, im sure you're not a nerd and if you were i would still love you any ways brother...
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I'm proud to be a nerd, I don't care what you think of me or if you "love me" or not. It doesn't matter at all to me either way.
the russians will see through any lies haha
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I seriously doubt it. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Now.... Either earth changes are happening and are being covered up by the media to some extent.... OR some one is propagating lies pertaining to earth changes in order to create a conspiracy, which would lead to the next question, why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42277914

Or Nancy is just a crazy old cult leader who thinks planets are playing peek a boo with the sun, but only if you use a shitty camera, and the earth is halted in orbit because of it, with a "devastating pole shit" always right around the corner even though 2012 was too far out. She needs new material.
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lol its ALWAYS back to Nancy with you!!!! ugh, broken record much...?
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Lie much?
Thread: Solstice sunrise - the sun rose where it should have!
Thread: Saturn in High Resolution 6/2/13
Thread: Yes, the "sideways" or "horizontal" moon is normal, even as far north as Colorado...
Thread: Are annular eclipses a new phenomenon?
Thread: My Brand New Images of Comet ISON (With "Companions!!!!!") 4-2-13
Why yes, yes you do. It does not "always come back to Nancy with me." As I said, I'm an equal opportunity debunker of astronomical nonsense.
And if it is not true then why is it being propagated on the internet, ya dig??
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Yeah, I 'dig' alright.
I don't like doom man,
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And I don't like astronomy.
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I SENSE........ JEALOUSY!!!!

MUAHAHAHAHAH
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Well you're pretty tone deaf then. Being called out by NASA because you're that epically wrong and that misleading to people is not something I envy or would consider a positive thing. I'm quite happy about who I am and the accomplishments I have under my belt. I'm not interested in fame, Lieder quite clearly is though.
astro nerd, don't take it so serious.... KIDDING, im sure you're not a nerd and if you were i would still love you any ways brother...
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I'm proud to be a nerd, I don't care what you think of me or if you "love me" or not. It doesn't matter at all to me either way.
the russians will see through any lies haha
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I seriously doubt it. I hope I'm pleasantly surprised, but I'm not holding my breath.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I think that you are secure in who you are( though u needn't compare yourself with Nancy to elucidate that fact (; ), I also don't harbor any negative feelings toward you, because you do a good job increasing astronomical awareness. Obviously a bright fellow, no one would argue against that.

Haha, I think the Russians are probably less manipulated psychologically than what people are in more westernized cultures such as the US, so Nancy will either flop or hopefully be a hit and gain widespread attention, which would result in closer scrutiny and eventual success or downfall.

So flop debunkers = happy
Success and subsequent scrutiny = debunkers happy..

Win-Win mate, peace
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Haha, I think the Russians are probably less manipulated psychologically than what people are in more westernized cultures such as the US, so Nancy will either flop or hopefully be a hit and gain widespread attention, which would result in closer scrutiny and eventual success or downfall.

So flop debunkers = happy
Success and subsequent scrutiny = debunkers happy..

Win-Win mate, peace
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Right, from the same nation that brought us news story after news story about how comet Elenin was secretly bring doom right up until the bitter end.

Not saying the US is much better, but there's nothing special about Russia.


Yup, world ended in 2012 folks, OR EVEN SOONER THANKS TO ELENIN OR 2005 YU55! WOOO-WOOO!! They're not only loony, they're one-sided loony, they don't even have any debunker on to offset the lunacy.
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