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Yes, I love mine really.....I just find it easier to blame that than myself ;))

Well, it seems IDW/A.A is reverting back to the old IDW moniker -- at least on *some* threads.

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Guess he got tired of inferior-minded debunkers able to so trivially identify him.

Perfect answer, thank you. You now officially admitted that you don't know what this object is. Your only explanation is your suggestion the photographer is using photoshop to create this. Awesome.

Youtube user "whydotheathensrage" with this two videos is obviously on the right track (in case he did not photoshop this)

So you're telling this guy found something that scientists missed?

Do you believe in a "PX"-Cover-Up if I may ask?

And if so: Have you ever tried to buy a telescope or consult a local astronomy-club before?

How do you explain these inconsistencies and what is your guess why the guy can take images with a camera but no elaborate approach leads to the same conclusion?

you TRULY have an ironic user name ;)

So is that yea or nay?

He`s only causing artifical lenseflares and camera artifacts with a grapic program. It doesn`t matter whether he is doing this with photoshop or some freeware: the result is the same. I often wonder why lenseflares cause so much religious feelings in the hearts of cultists. These objects aren`t real. Otherwise millions of people could see them.

You have to learn to handle the facts first. Then you can have your fun with some cheap illusions and fairy tales. Modern camera equipment isnt`t made for everybody (as in your case).


Before you fall for cheap lenseflares, try to remember some of LIEDers predictions. They were made for gullible cultists like you:

Here you can read some comments to her last interview "before" the end of the world. I think I don`t have to mention that she gave some other interviews meanwhile. Too much meds cause amnesia.
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Bear in mind that the Zetas have stated they will NOT give a date, having only made the statement that the date of Dec 21, 2012 is too far in the future, the pole shift occurring before that date, so this 2007 calculation could be
entirely wrong, but it lines up remarkably well with what Sylvia Browne stated on the Art Bell show.(2007)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Please read the ZetaTalk.com website, as it is placed there for your edification. Nancy is a contactee, not an alien. We are from Zeta Reticuli.
Nancy is in telepathic contact with us, and is not a channel. 2012 is the current establishment approved date, as it is too far out and will keep the public in their jobs until the last weeks, allowing the elite to escape to their
bunkers without the mess of the public clogging the roadways.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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We have stated that 2012 is not the date, that the pole shift will occur before that year.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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"This relationship itself is a guess, but based on this guess, and the current 260 day calendar, which was reset by survivors in the past, the assumption of
2012 was made. We have stated that the pole shift will occur prior to this date."
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I think you should enjoy the old lies of your cult mistress. You don`t need new lenseflares - as Nibiru doesn`t exist - you only have to figure out that she made an idiot out of you. Cult leaders do such things for money, for attention and many other things ...

She got your balls Nancyboy and she is squeezing them hard. And her list of "white lies" (outright nonsense) is getting longer and longer. In real life she has to change her predictions and add some new ones cause all the old ones failed. In this process she was/is often changing and faking her old Zetatalk so that the Newbies in the cult can`t see that she is the ultimate liar.
I know the reason for this and you know it: there are no Zetas and no Nibiru. So the last few bigots will have endless waiting fun, incredible new lenseflares and probably some more "sinking" countries so soon ...

The old dirty cult leader gave you a real runaround, cultists. Watch her and other cult leaders in action:





Last Edited by VeritasN1 on 07/16/2013 10:25 AM

That Youtuber is an idiot. If not for the extreme confirmation bias he applies to his "findings", he would see his own crap for what it is.

I`ve just been contacted by my secret sources of the CIA and FBI. They found out how Pixel-Poli and Bumberto aka the incredible Flareberto are presenting their latest lenseflares to each other.

Ok, it was clear that we have to face the truth one day, but I didn`t expect it would be such a shock.

Thanks to Prism, the NSA and other international secret services we can finally see the shocking truth now. First, even I couldn’t believe it, but then it was obvious …!
I wish them good luck and hopefully no children. Pixel-Poli and Bumberto in action. Warning this program contains explicit material,- not suitable for minors and children.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....brilliant!

Yep, he does that, I am pretty sure about it. The lens flares he doesn't see through the view finder are created by the software. Excellent answer Veritas, too. Let's see what he answers to questions regarding this video:



anno636, two days ago
you do realize when you point a camera at the sun because its so bright it creates a copy/false image next to the sun always and the reason its is smaller and appears to be a object beside the sun is the camera lens itself the suns light is so bright its reflecting back out from inside the camera itself and projecting the camera lens shape outwards giving you this image on the photo of two objects(the second object is a reflection of the cam lens from the suns light nothing more

whydotheathensrage, two days ago
I am acutely aware of flares and artifacts, I can tell you this is not a flare as it is never seen through the view finder. This object also has active orb/moons around it that change with time. Ad to that the atmospheric cloud. Also, in my latest video, it appears behind the trees; and clouds,,,, Also the sun is nowhere in any of these shots. the sun is above, well out of frame. Features on the object surface are always different as you would expect with a solid planetoid.

whydotheathensrage, 16 minutes ago (07/16/2013 vor 16
If this is a camera anomaly, (still in process of prove / disproving) the tricky part is that it does not show in the viewfinder, only after the picture is exposed and filtered. That said, I am still recording very strange visual aberrations under the sun. This will be the topic of my next movie. thanks for the constructive critique and input- it is always welcome.

Well, I would say the guy is opened minded and also searching for the truth. If you watch his other movies you won't find anything that leads to an artificially created lens flare or so (intentionally). I think the guy is doing a good job to find the truth. If it is a lense flare, a optical illusion, an aberration under the sun or whatever, he tries to stay honest and also reacts to critique in both ways, positive and negative. I like his attitude..





Well, Hydra said he has 40 years of experience as a photographer and almost 30 years as an amatuer astronomer yet the only answer he gave (and now you too, Veritas) is that the guy in the video uses photoshop to manipulate or to create lens flares or whatever you mean by that, hence this is not a lens flare nor are these optical lens apparitions of any kind. It must be photoshoped, you say!

Just saying...

Cmon Menow you can surely do better than this. Don't you understand that with what you just said you put all those who are not decided of what to believe, into the realm of Nibiru believers?

Sarcasm is music in my ears




From your perspective.
Not all people are as naive to believe a "rogue planet" goes past all scientists and can be found on YT-vids...

Again, you've avoided rational, relevant questions:

How do you explain (to yourself) that he does film an alleged physical object that went unnoticed to 6 billion people?

Ah. I guess I didn't get the word, did I? ( You can derail/ignore based on this one if you feel more comfortable not adressing these issues.)

PS: Have you noticed Flarebertos latest image proves the sun is perfectly in place?

How about an experiment?
You take images of the Sun daily, at given time, and measure its Az... then you compare this to a skychart and see wether it correlates.

A tip: Another Moderator once mounted an automatic webcam to take images of the sun behind a floppy... Now why haven't you seen a posting of this on the Ning?

Hmmm...


Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 07/16/2013 01:22 PM

You are aware of the difference between sarcasm and irony, CoS?

That guy tortures his images and enhances them to where it brings out flares which were not visible through the viewfinder. It's just that simple.

Those who don't understand the scientific method and confirmation bias are doomed to fall for various nonsense.

You appear to have missed part of the post.....let me help;

*Not all people are as naive to believe a "rogue planet" goes past all scientists and can be found on YT-vids...

Again, you've avoided rational, relevant questions:

How do you explain (to yourself) that he does film an alleged physical object that went unnoticed to 6 billion people?

Ah. I guess I didn't get the word, did I? ( You can derail/ignore based on this one if you feel more comfortable not adressing these issues.)

PS: Have you noticed Flarebertos latest image proves the sun is perfectly in place?

How about an experiment?
You take images of the Sun daily, at given time, and measure its Az... then you compare this to a skychart and see wether it correlates.

A tip: Another Moderator once mounted an automatic webcam to take images of the sun behind a floppy... Now why haven't you seen a posting of this on the Ning?*

Last Edited by Elemental on 07/16/2013 01:53 PM

Look at those beautiful movies. They contain so many things debunkers have asked for yet you guys would never give it a try because you would have to admit you were wrong from the start:

1) Using RAW Files
2) presents a covered up object sometimes (behind clouds and a tree)
3) has decent semi professional hardware and a teleconverter
4) uses different cameras and different lenses attached to them
4) is open minded to discuss questions and answers to critique

And even the most experienced person in this thread, Hydra, gave an answer I did not expect. He suggested youtube user 'whydotheathensrage' is using photoshop to fake all of this. WOW, impressive. That was astonishing, even for me.

Yet you ask all those questions without having seen the videos (they would waste your time, right?). At the same time you did not get the attention you wanted but expect from others to discuss your stuff, your questions? Completely irrelevant stuff I won't answer ever to you. Why would I discuss with a backstabber, a lier and a traitor?

Stick with what the guy sees and what he has seen with his own two eyes.

It is you beeing in denial and as prognosed by the Zetas this will increase, unfortunately.

ZT from 07/13/2013

SOZT
As we predicted would occur during the 8 of 10 phase, visibility of the Planet X complex has increased. As we have explained, Planet X and the Earth assume a more side-by-side posture during the 8 of 10 phase, Planet X moving forward in its path but the Earth pulling far to the left where it is trapped within the cup. Visibility increases because the angle of bounce for sunlight reflected off the vast dust cloud that shrouds both Planet X and the Moon Swirls is more optimal. When the Planet X complex was positioned more between the Earth and Sun, the bounce most often returned sunlight to the Sun or to the side, off into space. It was the rare times when the angle was right, at sunrise or sunset, that the people of Earth saw what they thought were two suns rising or setting. Now this optimal angle is present for most of the day.

Video captures, by experts who adjust the hue to explore what appears under various light spectrums, have begun appearing on the Internet, asserting that a large object can be seen under the Sun or somewhat to the right or left of this position. The objects look spherical, distinct, implying they are planets rather than Moon Swirls. Are any of these objects the Planet X corpus itself? During the decade that Planet X has been in the inner solar system, slowly making its way past the Sun, Planet X has presented many faces, including the Monster Persona where it looks huge and perfectly round. This is caused by light fanning outward but then being drawn back by the gravity of Earth. Where the Monster is not the size of Planet X, the light rays originate FROM Planet X, thus documenting its current location just under the Ecliptic.

Some of the recent captures are of Moon Swirls, so extremely bright (as has been their characteristic) that in one case a video captured a lens flare from the Moon Swirl. Thus proving the Moon Swirl is distinct, not in and of itself a Moon Swirl. What will this increased visibility mean for the lingering cover-up, not yet dealt a death blow as of today, July 13, 2013 by Obama’s planned announcement. This visibility has created increased chatter on the Internet, a growing sense in the public that they are being lied to about the erratic weather, sudden tides, and Sun and Moon obviously out of place. After the announcement, there will be many who will claim Nibiru, aka Planet X, is a falsehood, still in denial or attempting to placate mankind so they remain on the coastlines and in their jobs. This visibility is thus a great weapon against that type of disinformation.
EOZT

People have been allegedly "seeing" planet X since 2002. Nancy has been making the same claims about increasing visibility ever since and trotting out the same sort of nonsense in support of that claim for a decade. What Has changed? Nothing.

How do you imagine an INHABITED planet could hover near the sun for a decade and not fry its population?

When are you going to stop trolling with this nonsense?

[link to de.wikipedia.org]

> Erscheinungsformen. Erster Satz ;)


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Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 07/16/2013 02:51 PM

Of course everything has changed. Stick with the movies and tell me what that is. Have the deceny to review what you were telling the people and don't cling to the past. Visibility has changed, you cannot ignore this without loosing all your credibility. We are going from shitty lens flare pictures and massive lens flares allover the net to semi professional pictures with a lot of questions attached to them.

What do YOU see Menow? Is the guy using photoshop to fake this? Is this / are these lens flares or optical lens apparitions? What is your opinion?

Can you speak from your heart or is it too late in this incarnation for you? Just put Nancy Lieder and the ps ning and everything you know about that aside for a moment and answer me these simple questions above. I appreciate it.

Cos, das haste echt nicht nötig. Sach mal lieber an was der Typ da auf der Cam sieht :-)

And yeah, Hessen rult

It - doesn't - matter. Because its still inconsistent to the fact that MILLIONS of people around the world would have registered it by telescopes, sattelites, gravity-measurings, orbit-abberations, tide-abberations, magma(velocity)-abberations or other effects a presence of a physical planet would implicate.



You mentioned the answer yourself:



Ditto! Time w.a.s.t.i.n.g for the facts mentioned above.

As I said before, its not even important to find out what this guy photographed because we don't need this info at all to determine the fact that this CANNOT be a physical planet anywhere near us.



YOU come here crying wolf to what this guy uploaded on Youtube.
YOU come here wanting input from everyone regarding the whole thing.

Get your facts straight man.



You think that hurt me?
Its not hard to realize that you guys just feel personally attacked because your beliefs are criticized.

Don' take it personal.



Stick to what HE saw with HIS very own eyes? Really?




One day you will find out that those in denial usally project their denial upon others.



Ist nur die Wahrheit!
Been there, done that. Als ich "glaubte" und noch nicht "wusste", hatte ich auch niemals damit gerechnet mich zu irren.
Aber Man(n) irrt nunmal!


Hessen^2?

Last Edited by MoreAboutTunnelVision on 07/16/2013 03:29 PM

NOTHING has changed. Same non-evidence, pasted on top of previous non-evidence. In other words, same shit-different year. Yawn...



In his vids? Lens flares, obviously.



In other words, just keep giving credibility to this nonsense by addressing each new round of it as if there could actually be a large object hovering near the sun which astronomers have missed or are ALL in a vast conspiracy to hide... Right...



Repeat: NOTHING has changed.



Yeah... the questions attached should be: "WTF are you trying to pull, here?"




Lens flares- same as always, except when Nancy claims that a kite is her planet.

You're just playing dumb. I already asked you when you are going to stop trolling with this nonsense. When are you going to answer MY question?

When I was in college I worked for a photography studio for two years as both a photographer and in photo processing. While 60% of my work involved touching up teenage acne in year book photos, another 20% involved the Photoshopping of misc. artifacts from photos. High school football games were the worst.
I suspect almost every experienced or professional photographer knows that a light source does not have to be in frame to produce a lens flare. In fact, about 95% of the lens flares I had to deal with involved light sources that were out of frame. This YouTuber seems to be oblivious to this fact, so I wouldn’t believe any claims he makes in regards to “expertise” or “experience”.

Additionally, we were always sure to proof our photos after running our auto-correct macros, as many artifacts remained hidden until properly processed. There is nothing strange about these videos. At least the segments I watched.

"Features on the object surface are always different as you would expect with a solid planetoid."

What? Isn't that the opposite of what would be expected?

Yep

Perhaps moonswirls are magic....

Thanks for your answers. I will stop doing this when the guy actually finds out what the object really is coz this is the only thing I am interested in.