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Dude, if you seriously believe in pet munching & penile plugs you have a few issues to get sorted.......
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Dude, if you seriously believe in pet munching & penile plugs you have a few issues to get sorted.......
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Oooh, the truth......dog killer and amateur surgeon.....Lol.
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the guy has more than 30 years of experience as a photographer. I think it is safe to say that he at least has the decency to allow to talk about it.
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Argumentum ad Verecundiam.

I'm a photographer too, since 40 years.
In addition I'm an amateur astronomer since almost 30 years.

I say: No Nibiru

If you appeal to authority, my claim is stronger since I'm more experienced in photography and astronomy.

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That's good to hear. What is it what the guy sees in his cam then? I mean a lense flare looks different and would certainly not appear behind a cloud and it also could be controlled, no? Is it an abberation of some kind? What is it in your opinion?
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There must have gone something wrong with your latest posting, Hydra. I fixed that for you, too. If you watch those movies carefully you will see that the guy is actually using decent camera hardware. He also admits that it still can be some sort of abberation in the cam or so. He is not arguing or something. On the second video is what some here term to be a lens flare behind a cloud and in the first video also another object appears beside the main object although the cam is positioned on a tripod and the guy has more than 30 years of experience as a photographer. I think it is safe to say that he at least has the decency to allow to talk about it.
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It doesn't matter.
Which point don't you get about empirical analysis?

If there were such thing, we could easily replicate such a sighting...
but again it all falls down on those "rare occurences" where someone was in the right time at the right spot.

Don't believe? Your master just detailed it in her latest ZBB:

It was the rare times when the angle was right, at sunrise or sunset, that the people of Earth saw what they thought were two suns rising or setting. Now this optimal angle is present for most of the day.
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Source: poleshift dot ning dot com/profiles/blogs/please-place-your-planet-x


Now, don't you ask yourself why Alberto gets those "rare times" daily, while nobody can consistently replicate his sightings?

You know...Maybe it would be more obvious if you would be standing next to Flareberto with a different camera and see the damn lens flare with your very own eyes... not to mention the various other implications such a presence would have on nearby planets and space-trash.

Again: You assume such a planet is visible with an amateur-camera but invisible to any professional approach may it be proper filters, magnetometer readings, telescopes, sattelites, gravity anomalies, orbit abberations or other implications.

To assume such thing is irrational.

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There must have gone something wrong with your latest posting, Hydra. I fixed that for you, too. If you watch those movies carefully you will see that the guy is actually using decent camera hardware. He also admits that it still can be some sort of abberation in the cam or so. He is not arguing or something. On the second video is what some here term to be a lens flare behind a cloud and in the first video also another object appears beside the main object although the cam is positioned on a tripod and the guy has more than 30 years of experience as a photographer. I think it is safe to say that he at least has the decency to allow to talk about it.
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It doesn't matter.
Which point don't you get about empirical analysis?

If there were such thing, we could easily replicate such a sighting...
but again it all falls down on those "rare occurences" where someone was in the right time at the right spot.

Don't believe? Your master just detailed it in her latest ZBB:

It was the rare times when the angle was right, at sunrise or sunset, that the people of Earth saw what they thought were two suns rising or setting. Now this optimal angle is present for most of the day.
 Quoting: SOZBB


Source: poleshift dot ning dot com/profiles/blogs/please-place-your-planet-x


Now, don't you ask yourself why Alberto gets those "rare times" daily, while nobody can consistently replicate his sightings?

You know...Maybe it would be more obvious if you would be standing next to Flareberto with a different camera and see the damn lens flare with your very own eyes.
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but again it all falls down on those "rare occurences" where someone was in the right time at the right spot.
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Not a rare occurence, he started this approx a year ago and sees the object slightly changed in its position and appearance on more than thousand photos. Why would you always talk about Alberto? What's the point? The youtube user whydotheathensrage has hardly something to do with the ning and ZT.
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Not a rare occurence, he started this approx a year ago and sees the object slightly changed in its position and appearance on more than thousand photos. Why would you always talk about Alberto? What's the point? The youtube user whydotheathensrage has hardly something to do with the ning and ZT.
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So you bought the Alberto-images for the real deal?!?

Ok, one step back:
So, you think the planet slightly changed position? That would still mean THOUSANDS, MILLIONS of people would have been able to see this planet, yet were are all these people?

I can show you an image of Albertos planet where it jumped within Minutes/seconds... I mean, the whole Alberto-story has absolutely no consistency whatsoever?!

Alberto himself says only his camera can see this planet.

Alberto himself makes images which make it obvious that it is a flare.

Nancy confirms Alberto's images to be real but nobody can replicate them..


I mean... The "Flareberto" is a prime-example of how compliant the believers have gotten.

Surely it has nothing to do with that YT-channel, but you guys always forget about the details.

ONE Instance is enough to topple the ZT-credibility,
A THOUSAND instances should be more than enough to abandon it forever,

But you guys don't want these details.. You just want fresh confirmation... too greedy.

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Not a rare occurence, he started this approx a year ago and sees the object slightly changed in its position and appearance on more than thousand photos. Why would you always talk about Alberto? What's the point? The youtube user whydotheathensrage has hardly something to do with the ning and ZT.
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So you bought the Alberto-images for the real deal?!?

Ok, one step back:
So, you think the planet slightly changed position? That would still mean THOUSANDS, MILLIONS of people would have been able to see this planet, yet were are all these people?

I can show you an image of Albertos planet where it jumped within Minutes/seconds... I mean, the whole Alberto-story has absolutely no consistency whatsoever?!

Alberto himself says only his camera can see this planet.

Alberto himself makes images which make it obvious that it is a flare.

Nancy confirms Alberto's images to be real but nobody can replicate them..


I mean... The "Flareberto" is a prime-example of how compliant the believers have gotten.

Surely it has nothing to do with that YT-channel, but you guys always forget about the details.

ONE Instance is enough to crash your whole ZT-belief,
A THOUSAND instances should be more than enough to abandon it forever,

But you guys don't want these details.. You just want fresh confirmation... too greedy.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


So you bought the Alberto-images for the real deal?!?
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What? Sorry I do not see where you got this idea from. I just want to know what the object(s) [one suddenly appears like a moon besides the main object) is and also what the main object could be. An abberation, a lense flare or whatever an experienced photographer can say about it. That's all..
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Not a rare occurence, he started this approx a year ago and sees the object slightly changed in its position and appearance on more than thousand photos. Why would you always talk about Alberto? What's the point? The youtube user whydotheathensrage has hardly something to do with the ning and ZT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43322648


So you bought the Alberto-images for the real deal?!?

Ok, one step back:
So, you think the planet slightly changed position? That would still mean THOUSANDS, MILLIONS of people would have been able to see this planet, yet were are all these people?

I can show you an image of Albertos planet where it jumped within Minutes/seconds... I mean, the whole Alberto-story has absolutely no consistency whatsoever?!

Alberto himself says only his camera can see this planet.

Alberto himself makes images which make it obvious that it is a flare.

Nancy confirms Alberto's images to be real but nobody can replicate them..


I mean... The "Flareberto" is a prime-example of how compliant the believers have gotten.

Surely it has nothing to do with that YT-channel, but you guys always forget about the details.

ONE Instance is enough to crash your whole ZT-belief,
A THOUSAND instances should be more than enough to abandon it forever,

But you guys don't want these details.. You just want fresh confirmation... too greedy.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


So you bought the Alberto-images for the real deal?!?
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


What? Sorry I do not see where you got this idea from. I just want to know what the object(s) [one suddenly appears like a moon besides the main object) is and also what the main object could be. An abberation, a lense flare or whatever an experienced photographer can say about it. That's all..
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I'm sorry that should be "optical lens apparitions" and not the german word :-)
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What? Sorry I do not see where you got this idea from. I just want to know what the object(s) [one suddenly appears like a moon besides the main object) is and also what the main object could be. An abberation, a lense flare or whatever an experienced photographer can say about it. That's all..
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I can tell you what its not: Some undiscovered planet lingering in/or near our solar system.

If you want to know why I am so certain, I can bring up my arguments again.
But I guess I'll be the last you will ask about someones opinion...

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Zetatalk from 07/13/2013

SOZT
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EOZT
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resist

This thread is full of psycho deranged shills!!!

shill
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clappa

Could it be that with the zimmerman trial over, the REAL coverup will now take center stage? Now that we have entered the 8 of 10, it should be a given!
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Absolutely.
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There must have gone something wrong with your latest posting, Hydra. I fixed that for you, too. If you watch those movies carefully you will see that the guy is actually using decent camera hardware. He also admits that it still can be some sort of abberation in the cam or so. He is not arguing or something. On the second video is what some here term to be a lens flare behind a cloud and in the first video also another object appears beside the main object although the cam is positioned on a tripod and the guy has more than 30 years of experience as a photographer. I think it is safe to say that he at least has the decency to allow to talk about it.
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Let me correct this for you too!

Now I really invested some time and checked this lenseflare parody. But it`s not only a lenseflare parody but also a problem of the graphic program involved. It`s strange that everybody on youtube can claim to be a professional respective experienced photographer. This guy is definitely nothing of it as he has not the slightest idea about astrophotography.

First of all you can see nothing on the original natural pics. When he changes all kinds of parameters in his graphic program, suddenly some strange artifacts appear. And it`s indeed funny how they change in size and shape from frame to frame. So it`s safe to say that these effects were generated by graphic programs and filters which were used to find something which doesn`t exist.

Natural objects don`t change in shape and size from one frame to another. And above all they don`t jump around within more or less some seconds. We`re talking here about enormous distances. I think I don’t have to mention that real objects also don`t play hide-and-seek with you. You can either see and focus them or not. Well, I think I have to mention this here as I`m trying to explain some basics to cultists who normally are happy about the latest hoax orgies of Flareberto and Pixel-Poli.

If you try the same experiment with a strong light source and comparable graphic programs in your house you will happily find some Nibirus and Moon-Swirls in your living room. But I can assure you that there are neither Nibirus in your kitchen nor in your living room. Just believe me.

Of course this shows that Nancy LIEDer is finished now. She also has no idea about astrophotography and uses such really bad hoaxes as a kind of explanation for the beginning of her 8 of 10. We can only hope that more and more cultists realize the bad and evil lies of this dirty old scumbag and are able to escape the deadly brainwashing machine of the old cult guru. She is a pathetic liar and an internet scammer. Neither her so-called Zetas nor a Nobeeryou have ever existed.

Why don`t we listen to Nancy`s song? Welcome in the diabolic false Zetacult.


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clappa

Could it be that with the zimmerman trial over, the REAL coverup will now take center stage? Now that we have entered the 8 of 10, it should be a given!
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Absolutely.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43322648


There must have gone something wrong with your latest posting, Hydra. I fixed that for you, too. If you watch those movies carefully you will see that the guy is actually using decent camera hardware. He also admits that it still can be some sort of abberation in the cam or so. He is not arguing or something. On the second video is what some here term to be a lens flare behind a cloud and in the first video also another object appears beside the main object although the cam is positioned on a tripod and the guy has more than 30 years of experience as a photographer. I think it is safe to say that he at least has the decency to allow to talk about it.
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Let me correct this for you too!

Now I really invested some time and checked this lenseflare parody. But it`s not only a lenseflare parody but also a problem of the graphic program involved. It`s strange that everybody on youtube can claim to be a professional respective experienced photographer. This guy is definitely nothing of it as he has not the slightest idea about astrophotography.

First of all you can see nothing on the original natural pics. When he changes all kinds of parameters in his graphic program, suddenly some strange artifacts appear. And it`s indeed funny how they change in size and shape from frame to frame. So it`s safe to say that these effects were generated by graphic programs and filters which were used to find something which doesn`t exist.

Natural objects don`t change in shape and size from one frame to another. And above all they don`t jump around within more or less some seconds. We`re talking here about enormous distances. I think I don’t have to mention that real objects also don`t play hide-and-seek with you. You can either see and focus them or not. Well, I think I have to mention this here as I`m trying to explain some basics to cultists who normally are happy about the latest hoax orgies of Flareberto and Pixel-Poli.

If you try the same experiment with a strong light source and comparable graphic programs in your house you will happily find some Nibirus and Moon-Swirls in your living room. But I can assure you that there are neither Nibirus in your kitchen nor in your living room. Just believe me.

Of course this shows that Nancy LIEDer is finished now. She also has no idea about astrophotography and uses such really bad hoaxes as a kind of explanation for the beginning of her 8 of 10. We can only hope that more and more cultists realize the bad and evil lies of this dirty old scumbag and are able to escape the deadly brainwashing machine of the old cult guru. She is a pathetic liar and an internet scammer. Neither her so-called Zetas nor a Nobeeryou have ever existed.

Why don`t we listen to Nancy`s song? Welcome in the diabolic false Zetacult.


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I appreciate your answer!
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Only for you and don`t forget to listen to Nancy`s song!



She`s a liar and an internet scammer,- even worse than the fictive character in this clip. Never forget this!

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Only for you and don`t forget to listen to Nancy`s song!



She`s a liar and an internet scammer,- even worse than the fictive character in this clip. Never forget this!
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Cool song, thanx!
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the guy has more than 30 years of experience as a photographer. I think it is safe to say that he at least has the decency to allow to talk about it.
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Argumentum ad Verecundiam.

I'm a photographer too, since 40 years.
In addition I'm an amateur astronomer since almost 30 years.

I say: No Nibiru

If you appeal to authority, my claim is stronger since I'm more experienced in photography and astronomy.

.
 Quoting: Hydra


That's good to hear. What is it what the guy sees in his cam then? I mean a lense flare looks different and would certainly not appear behind a cloud and it also could be controlled, no? Is it an abberation of some kind? What is it in your opinion?
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I said I have 40 years of experience in photography and 30 years of experience in astronomy.

I didn't say I have experience in Photoshop.

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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Only for you and don`t forget to listen to Nancy`s song!



She`s a liar and an internet scammer,- even worse than the fictive character in this clip. Never forget this!
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Lol, love it my friend! :))
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Only for you and don`t forget to listen to Nancy`s song!



She`s a liar and an internet scammer,- even worse than the fictive character in this clip. Never forget this!
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Bloody iPad.....

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Bloody iPad.....
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Ah nooo - they are quite usefull.

My sister gave dad one as a birthday present
(sorry for the German, but I think you get it)



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how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Bloody iPad.....
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Ah nooo - they are quite usefull.

My sister gave dad one as a birthday present
(sorry for the German, but I think you get it)



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Yes, I love mine really.....I just find it easier to blame that than myself ;))
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Well, it seems IDW/A.A is reverting back to the old IDW moniker -- at least on *some* threads.

Thread: what were you doing on 9/11? (Page 2)

Thread: WARNING: SOLAR DATA PAGE COMPLETELY CENSORED,DATA ON OTHER SOURCES BEING FABRICATED! (Page 546)

Thread: US Attorney General says Trayvon Martin killing an ‘unnecessary shooting’

Guess he got tired of inferior-minded debunkers able to so trivially identify him.
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the guy has more than 30 years of experience as a photographer. I think it is safe to say that he at least has the decency to allow to talk about it.
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Argumentum ad Verecundiam.

I'm a photographer too, since 40 years.
In addition I'm an amateur astronomer since almost 30 years.

I say: No Nibiru

If you appeal to authority, my claim is stronger since I'm more experienced in photography and astronomy.

.
 Quoting: Hydra


That's good to hear. What is it what the guy sees in his cam then? I mean a lense flare looks different and would certainly not appear behind a cloud and it also could be controlled, no? Is it an abberation of some kind? What is it in your opinion?
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I said I have 40 years of experience in photography and 30 years of experience in astronomy.

I didn't say I have experience in Photoshop.

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Perfect answer, thank you. You now officially admitted that you don't know what this object is. Your only explanation is your suggestion the photographer is using photoshop to create this. Awesome.

Youtube user "whydotheathensrage" with this two videos is obviously on the right track (in case he did not photoshop this)



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Perfect answer, thank you. You now officially admitted that you don't know what this object is. Your only explanation is your suggestion the photographer is using photoshop to create this. Awesome.

Youtube user "whydotheathensrage" with this two videos is obviously on the right track (in case he did not photoshop this)
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So you're telling this guy found something that scientists missed?

Do you believe in a "PX"-Cover-Up if I may ask?

And if so: Have you ever tried to buy a telescope or consult a local astronomy-club before?

How do you explain these inconsistencies and what is your guess why the guy can take images with a camera but no elaborate approach leads to the same conclusion?
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Perfect answer, thank you. You now officially admitted that you don't know what this object is. Your only explanation is your suggestion the photographer is using photoshop to create this. Awesome.

Youtube user "whydotheathensrage" with this two videos is obviously on the right track (in case he did not photoshop this)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43322648


So you're telling this guy found something that scientists missed?

Do you believe in a "PX"-Cover-Up if I may ask?

And if so: Have you ever tried to buy a telescope or consult a local astronomy-club before?

How do you explain these inconsistencies and what is your guess why the guy can take images with a camera but no elaborate approach leads to the same conclusion?
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you TRULY have an ironic user name ;)
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Perfect answer, thank you. You now officially admitted that you don't know what this object is. Your only explanation is your suggestion the photographer is using photoshop to create this. Awesome.

Youtube user "whydotheathensrage" with this two videos is obviously on the right track (in case he did not photoshop this)
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So you're telling this guy found something that scientists missed?

Do you believe in a "PX"-Cover-Up if I may ask?

And if so: Have you ever tried to buy a telescope or consult a local astronomy-club before?

How do you explain these inconsistencies and what is your guess why the guy can take images with a camera but no elaborate approach leads to the same conclusion?
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you TRULY have an ironic user name ;)
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So is that yea or nay?
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Perfect answer, thank you. You now officially admitted that you don't know what this object is. Your only explanation is your suggestion the photographer is using photoshop to create this. Awesome.

Youtube user "whydotheathensrage" with this two videos is obviously on the right track (in case he did not photoshop this)
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He`s only causing artifical lenseflares and camera artifacts with a grapic program. It doesn`t matter whether he is doing this with photoshop or some freeware: the result is the same. I often wonder why lenseflares cause so much religious feelings in the hearts of cultists. These objects aren`t real. Otherwise millions of people could see them.

You have to learn to handle the facts first. Then you can have your fun with some cheap illusions and fairy tales. Modern camera equipment isnt`t made for everybody (as in your case).


Before you fall for cheap lenseflares, try to remember some of LIEDers predictions. They were made for gullible cultists like you:

Here you can read some comments to her last interview "before" the end of the world. I think I don`t have to mention that she gave some other interviews meanwhile. Too much meds cause amnesia.
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Bear in mind that the Zetas have stated they will NOT give a date, having only made the statement that the date of Dec 21, 2012 is too far in the future, the pole shift occurring before that date, so this 2007 calculation could be
entirely wrong
, but it lines up remarkably well with what Sylvia Browne stated on the Art Bell show.(2007)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Please read the ZetaTalk.com website, as it is placed there for your edification. Nancy is a contactee, not an alien. We are from Zeta Reticuli.
Nancy is in telepathic contact with us, and is not a channel. 2012 is the current establishment approved date, as it is too far out and will keep the public in their jobs until the last weeks, allowing the elite to escape to their
bunkers without the mess of the public clogging the roadways.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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We have stated that 2012 is not the date, that the pole shift will occur before that year.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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"This relationship itself is a guess, but based on this guess, and the current 260 day calendar, which was reset by survivors in the past, the assumption of
2012 was made. We have stated that the pole shift will occur prior to this date."
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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I think you should enjoy the old lies of your cult mistress. You don`t need new lenseflares - as Nibiru doesn`t exist - you only have to figure out that she made an idiot out of you. Cult leaders do such things for money, for attention and many other things ...

She got your balls Nancyboy and she is squeezing them hard. And her list of "white lies" (outright nonsense) is getting longer and longer. In real life she has to change her predictions and add some new ones cause all the old ones failed. In this process she was/is often changing and faking her old Zetatalk so that the Newbies in the cult can`t see that she is the ultimate liar.
I know the reason for this and you know it: there are no Zetas and no Nibiru. So the last few bigots will have endless waiting fun, incredible new lenseflares and probably some more "sinking" countries so soon ...

The old dirty cult leader gave you a real runaround, cultists. Watch her and other cult leaders in action:



rofl

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Argumentum ad Verecundiam.

I'm a photographer too, since 40 years.
In addition I'm an amateur astronomer since almost 30 years.

I say: No Nibiru

If you appeal to authority, my claim is stronger since I'm more experienced in photography and astronomy.

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That's good to hear. What is it what the guy sees in his cam then? I mean a lense flare looks different and would certainly not appear behind a cloud and it also could be controlled, no? Is it an abberation of some kind? What is it in your opinion?
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I said I have 40 years of experience in photography and 30 years of experience in astronomy.

I didn't say I have experience in Photoshop.

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Perfect answer, thank you. You now officially admitted that you don't know what this object is. Your only explanation is your suggestion the photographer is using photoshop to create this. Awesome.

Youtube user "whydotheathensrage" with this two videos is obviously on the right track (in case he did not photoshop this)




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That Youtuber is an idiot. If not for the extreme confirmation bias he applies to his "findings", he would see his own crap for what it is.
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I`ve just been contacted by my secret sources of the CIA and FBI. They found out how Pixel-Poli and Bumberto aka the incredible Flareberto are presenting their latest lenseflares to each other.

Ok, it was clear that we have to face the truth one day, but I didn`t expect it would be such a shock.

Thanks to Prism, the NSA and other international secret services we can finally see the shocking truth now. First, even I couldn’t believe it, but then it was obvious …!
I wish them good luck and hopefully no children. Pixel-Poli and Bumberto in action. Warning this program contains explicit material,- not suitable for minors and children.



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I`ve just been contacted by my secret sources of the CIA and FBI. They found out how Pixel-Poli and Bumberto aka the incredible Flareberto are presenting their latest lenseflares to each other.

Ok, it was clear that we have to face the truth one day, but I didn`t expect it would be such a shock.

Thanks to Prism, the NSA and other international secret services we can finally see the shocking truth now. First, even I couldn’t believe it, but then it was obvious …!
I wish them good luck and hopefully no children. Pixel-Poli and Bumberto in action. Warning this program contains explicit material,- not suitable for minors and children.



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Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.....brilliant!
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Perfect answer, thank you. You now officially admitted that you don't know what this object is. Your only explanation is your suggestion the photographer is using photoshop to create this. Awesome.

Youtube user "whydotheathensrage" with this two videos is obviously on the right track (in case he did not photoshop this)
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He`s only causing artifical lenseflares and camera artifacts with a grapic program.
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Yep, he does that, I am pretty sure about it. The lens flares he doesn't see through the view finder are created by the software. Excellent answer Veritas, too. Let's see what he answers to questions regarding this video:



anno636, two days ago
you do realize when you point a camera at the sun because its so bright it creates a copy/false image next to the sun always and the reason its is smaller and appears to be a object beside the sun is the camera lens itself the suns light is so bright its reflecting back out from inside the camera itself and projecting the camera lens shape outwards giving you this image on the photo of two objects(the second object is a reflection of the cam lens from the suns light nothing more

whydotheathensrage, two days ago
I am acutely aware of flares and artifacts, I can tell you this is not a flare as it is never seen through the view finder. This object also has active orb/moons around it that change with time. Ad to that the atmospheric cloud. Also, in my latest video, it appears behind the trees; and clouds,,,, Also the sun is nowhere in any of these shots. the sun is above, well out of frame. Features on the object surface are always different as you would expect with a solid planetoid.

whydotheathensrage, 16 minutes ago (07/16/2013 vor 16
If this is a camera anomaly, (still in process of prove / disproving) the tricky part is that it does not show in the viewfinder, only after the picture is exposed and filtered. That said, I am still recording very strange visual aberrations under the sun. This will be the topic of my next movie. thanks for the constructive critique and input- it is always welcome.

Well, I would say the guy is opened minded and also searching for the truth. If you watch his other movies you won't find anything that leads to an artificially created lens flare or so (intentionally). I think the guy is doing a good job to find the truth. If it is a lense flare, a optical illusion, an aberration under the sun or whatever, he tries to stay honest and also reacts to critique in both ways, positive and negative. I like his attitude..





Well, Hydra said he has 40 years of experience as a photographer and almost 30 years as an amatuer astronomer yet the only answer he gave (and now you too, Veritas) is that the guy in the video uses photoshop to manipulate or to create lens flares or whatever you mean by that, hence this is not a lens flare nor are these optical lens apparitions of any kind. It must be photoshoped, you say!

Just saying...
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That's good to hear. What is it what the guy sees in his cam then? I mean a lense flare looks different and would certainly not appear behind a cloud and it also could be controlled, no? Is it an abberation of some kind? What is it in your opinion?
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I said I have 40 years of experience in photography and 30 years of experience in astronomy.

I didn't say I have experience in Photoshop.

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Perfect answer, thank you. You now officially admitted that you don't know what this object is. Your only explanation is your suggestion the photographer is using photoshop to create this. Awesome.

Youtube user "whydotheathensrage" with this two videos is obviously on the right track (in case he did not photoshop this)




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That Youtuber is an idiot. If not for the extreme confirmation bias he applies to his "findings", he would see his own crap for what it is.
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Cmon Menow you can surely do better than this. Don't you understand that with what you just said you put all those who are not decided of what to believe, into the realm of Nibiru believers?
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you TRULY have an ironic user name ;)
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Sarcasm is music in my ears hf


Cmon Menow you can surely do better than this. Don't you understand that with what you just said you put all those who are not decided of what to believe, into the realm of Nibiru believers?
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From your perspective.
Not all people are as naive to believe a "rogue planet" goes past all scientists and can be found on YT-vids...

Again, you've avoided rational, relevant questions:

How do you explain (to yourself) that he does film an alleged physical object that went unnoticed to 6 billion people?

Ah. I guess I didn't get the word, did I? ( You can derail/ignore based on this one if you feel more comfortable not adressing these issues.)

PS: Have you noticed Flarebertos latest image proves the sun is perfectly in place?

How about an experiment?
You take images of the Sun daily, at given time, and measure its Az... then you compare this to a skychart and see wether it correlates.

A tip: Another Moderator once mounted an automatic webcam to take images of the sun behind a floppy... Now why haven't you seen a posting of this on the Ning?

Hmmm... tounge
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