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What ever happened to "Ann"? (Was it "Ann S"?)
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Seconded.
I have no friggin' idea.

After I posted an update which she said wouldnt occur, she made a couple of "normal posts" and then disappeared.

I either tip she changed account, although I could not make out anyone who sounds like her.

On vacation? Possibly.

Taking a break? In my opinion the most likely.
Hard PS-Ningers usally don't make much of vacations because they are constantly expecting some doom-events.

"Astrogal" aka "Ann S" was always very dedicated so it is indeed odd she disappeared from the scene.

It is possible that Nancy told her to stop engaging with the debunkers but she hasn't been posting pro either...

So where is Astrogal and how is she doing? Because if she has that critical "break" I would very much like to get in contact.. Maybe this time from another point of perspective.

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What ever happened to "Ann"? (Was it "Ann S"?)
 Quoting: Menow 44584434


Seconded.
I have no friggin' idea.

After I posted an update which she said wouldnt occur, she made a couple of "normal posts" and then disappeared.

I either tip she changed account, although I could not make out anyone who sounds like her.

On vacation? Possibly.

Taking a break? In my opinion the most likely.
Hard PS-Ningers usally don't make much of vacations because they are constantly expecting some doom-events.

"Astrogal" aka "Ann S" was always very dedicated so it is indeed odd she disappeared from the scene.

It is possible that Nancy told her to stop engaging with the debunkers but she hasn't been posting pro either...

So where is Astrogal and how is she doing? Because if she has that critical "break" I would very much like to get in contact.. Maybe this time from another point of perspective.

hf
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Well, in my experience people who decide to stop being believers just disappear. They almost never admit to having been wrong. Present company excepted, of course.
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What ever happened to "Ann"? (Was it "Ann S"?)
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Maybe she joined Ele `camping' LOL

I certainly haven't seen any posters resembling her style, so I dont think she's just changed names

She was rather fond of dragging up old zetababble- much of which only showed how many times old nancy LIEder has been wrong tho- maybe she pissed nancy off and got herself `retired' (ie banned)???

Who knows- maybe she even saw through nancy finally and left the ning???(well we can hope cant we??)
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What ever happened to "Ann"? (Was it "Ann S"?)
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Maybe she joined Ele `camping' LOL

I certainly haven't seen any posters resembling her style, so I dont think she's just changed names

She was rather fond of dragging up old zetababble- much of which only showed how many times old nancy LIEder has been wrong tho- maybe she pissed nancy off and got herself `retired' (ie banned)???

Who knows- maybe she even saw through nancy finally and left the ning???(well we can hope cant we??)
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If Ann did leave, and learned from the experience, more power to her -- although I'd have really liked to ask a few questions of her about the 'whys' of her choices.

Nancy's apparently ever-shrinking cult. Explains why she's so desperately trolling for new unwary converts on Russian television.
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What ever happened to "Ann"? (Was it "Ann S"?)
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I'm guessing reality came up and smacked her upside the head. If that's the case, she's probably going to just quietly disappear like all the believers before her.

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Nibiru-Tards in full force:

Thread: Breaking! Second Sun with 7 Planets Around it Approaching! Listen Here!

Thread: ALERT !! ALERT !!! AUGUST 11, 2013 Planet X/Nibiru Event?! Video (Page 3)

Thread: Pattie L Brassard on Veritas-Second Sun 7 Planets;Credible or Fantasist?The more she says the more I lean to bullshine!

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It was fun being in those threads. The response you get when you tell them you have a telescope.
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IDW cometh back for more!

Thread: REALTIVITY FINALLY DISQUALIFIED BY MAINSTREAM SCIENCE! BREAKING NEWS! (Page 62)

Amusing.
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If you don't know anything about te subject and have no aptitude for science and it so transparently obvious, what is the upside of making a total jackass out of yourself?
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The irony in this post alone.....
(considering he's been making a jackass of himself that I know for at least 6 years- since he first made an appearance at the old Bad Astronomy site (RIP) what indeed is the upside for him???)
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He truly liketh the arse kickings ;)
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Nancy and her Ningtards live in their very own world. You can find there moon swirls, Nibirus in all sizes, endless lenseflares, lost countries, hundreds of failed predictions, a lot of doom and incredible foolishness.

We`re talking about an internet cult here. Of course all of Nancy`s prophecies failed. And I think that most of the Ning-members slowly realized that, because her fantasy world crumbles every second week.

But there are also some things which don’t exist in Nancy`s land: brains, telescopes, gravity, the solar cycle, astronomy, the fantasy 7 of 10 and the so called announcement of Barack Obama. This announcement was her big excuse for all the other apparent failures. It should happen in August but she tries to avoid that topic now. I think most of us still remember her lame excuses last year. The funny thing is that she`s using her failed prediction several times.

And everybody with some brain in his/her head knows that they will fail (like always)lala: till she makes some new predictions which will also end in the death row. And then the old Nancy game starts again. Till she dies one day and nobody wants to remember her anymore because it will be even embarrassing for the hillbillies who believed her. Silence. And no Nibirus anymore. But as I can see in some other threads there will always be some morons who fall for lenseflares again. Nibiru lives in a cell phone or in an old floppy disc.

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Nancy and her Ningtards live in their very own world.
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Yep. You put a nail in it right there. I don't know that there is any curing that.
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Sigh.

Gerard put a list up -- I guess we aren't allowed to link -- talking about why one should trust ZT above *all* else. I suppose that includes one's own eyes.

Talk about remembering (or making up) the hits while *utterly* forgetting the misses!

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Sigh.

Gerard put a list up -- I guess we aren't allowed to link -- talking about why one should trust ZT above *all* else. I suppose that includes one's own eyes.

Talk about remembering (or making up) the hits while *utterly* forgetting the misses!
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huh
Why do they even need "trust" at all?

I mean, according to Nancy she is channeling some super-intelligent folks who are unable to precisely predict any earth change despite getting the word out on a global scale.

And now they also need "trust" to underline their credibility?
Pathetic.

If anything, it is to keep the last followers in line aka. avoid critical thinking, objective analysis or rational thinking and condition them to "trust" and "belief" instead.

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Trust = Faith...which makes ZetaTalk more like a religion akin to Scientology.
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Edit:
Removed. Actually old news.

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Well, Nancy tries to avoid now every date for the so called announcement. It seems to be as important as the poleshift for her now to avoid this announcement.

She knows what will happen and we know what will happen. Nothing.

Apart from this she had no problem to give a timeline for this announcement last year. And what happened? Nothing.

She also had no problem to collect money for her page with this announcement. She said it was imminent. And what happened? Nothing.

This year she said that the announcement will most likely happen in July or August. I know what will happen. Nothing.

She will claim next year the same again. And we know what will happen. Nothing.

Welcome in your cult! No timeline will be given, as no timeline exists. This was the only thing Ninny Nanny learnt from her embarassing 2003 predictions. Stay vague and babble some nonsense. There are always some gullible idiots out there who will believe you.
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Trust = Faith...which makes ZetaTalk more like a religion akin to Scientology.
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This is very true. For Nancy`s last doomtards Nancytalk is a kind of religion. And she tries to use the stame strategies like Scientology. Even Gertard tries that.

But as she only has an online sect, most of her victims awake one day. I just remember the poor Pixel Poli. Nancy was his goddess and he`s still wondering why her predictions have never come true.

Even Niels N. the former German Zetaboss had to realize that Nancytalk was Bulltalk. He lived around 14 years with this nightmare and needed psychological help when he tried to leave the cult.

Cults can be dangerous...

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Heads-up, fake image of ISON is making the rounds. It's actually comet Linear in the constellation Cygnus. I sent an email to the webmaster at spaceweather where the image seemed to originate (well, that's where GLP'ers got a hold of it) and they added a note about the image in the comments, but since it already hit a couple threads here I figured I'd post this here for future reference by others who might encounter the "amazing" capture of "ISON" on August 2nd (!).
Thread: Comet 2012 S1 (I-SON) ( August) images
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Well, IDW/A.A may have retreated from GLP for the moment, given some possible yicky revelations. We'll see if he comes back -- though I still have some dates in the near future that will call for reposting the List whether he is here or not.

It may be my imagination, but it also seems to me that Nancy is losing steam as well. I suppose we'll see what effect her Russia appearances are going to have (or did those happen already?) -- but I'm not sure they will be enough to revitalize her cult.

Solar Guardian's August is here, and running out pretty fast as well. I wonder what the excuses will be?

So, all in all, it seems it is not a bad time to be a debunker.
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Well, IDW/A.A may have retreated from GLP for the moment, given some possible yicky revelations. We'll see if he comes back -- though I still have some dates in the near future that will call for reposting the List whether he is here or not.
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Good call.

It may be my imagination, but it also seems to me that Nancy is losing steam as well. I suppose we'll see what effect her Russia appearances are going to have (or did those happen already?) -- but I'm not sure they will be enough to revitalize her cult.
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Not your imagination.
Absolutely lost steam recently... also among the debunkers...
The TV-appearance already happened on their mystery-show and it seems she rather lost credibility than gaining it.


Solar Guardian's August is here, and running out pretty fast as well. I wonder what the excuses will be?
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He is already backpaddling to other dates even though he claims his "dreams" led him towards these days.
Tolec from the Andromeda-BS-dpt. seemingly just tries to let dust settle on the whole story.
I think SG learned his lesson, although Im not sure if that will really takle off his biases and confusion.
We shall see.
Thread: Who will go to another 3D planet onboard Andromedan Biosphere this August 2013? (Page 22)


So, all in all, it seems it is not a bad time to be a debunker.
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Absolutely. Its never a bad time trying to be rational and objective....

I tried to engage on FB groups too, the most recent: the hollow earth BS... And guess peoples reaction when you confront them with empirical evidence:

As soon as the word "science" falls the whole discussion derails into back and forth about the definition of science only to conclude that science is not always "mainstream indoctrinated/manipulated hogwash" and of course not perfect, so in all you'll have to beat the dead horse for a long time before productive discussion is possible.

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Can someone explain please what the ningtards got wrong in their latest blog

poleshift dot ning dot com/profiles/blogs/webcams-and-archives-earth-wobble-and-plan​et-x-in-real-time

Please look at the first three photos. What's wrong here? Thanks!
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Can someone explain please what the ningtards got wrong in their latest blog

poleshift dot ning dot com/profiles/blogs/webcams-and-archives-earth-wobble-and-plan​et-x-in-real-time

Please look at the first three photos. What's wrong here? Thanks!
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There is a lot wrong.

1) Why do they change the sequence of the photos: 05:59:05 - 05:59:10 - 05:59:09 ?
If you bring it into the right sequence, you can estimate that there are clouds around the sun: 1st pic little sunlight, 2nd pic full sunlight, 3rd pic lesser sunlight.

2) What does it mean "Sunlight Striking High/Low"?
If you decrese the brightness, you will see that in all three photos the brightest spot is 1/3 below of the top of the building.

3) The claim "Valley lighted" is simply wrong.
Decrese the brightness of the 3rd pic until it fits the brightness of the 1st pic and you will see that "Valley lighted" is bullshit.


Now look at the photo below "More Shadows Change on the Buildings in these dates:"

Time difference in both equation = more than 2 minutes.
This accounts in a difference in the suns position above the sky of 32.5 arcmin = 0.54° = more than one sun diameter.
Taking into account atmospheric refraction, highest close to the horizon, this is more than sufficient to change the shadow in the way shown in the pictures.

The Ning-tards seem to be quite desperate when they try to make up an alleged Earth wobble with pictures like this.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Can someone explain please what the ningtards got wrong in their latest blog

poleshift dot ning dot com/profiles/blogs/webcams-and-archives-earth-wobble-and-plan​et-x-in-real-time

Please look at the first three photos. What's wrong here? Thanks!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44944530

There is a lot wrong.

1) Why do they change the sequence of the photos: 05:59:05 - 05:59:10 - 05:59:09 ?
If you bring it into the right sequence, you can estimate that there are clouds around the sun: 1st pic little sunlight, 2nd pic full sunlight, 3rd pic lesser sunlight.

2) What does it mean "Sunlight Striking High/Low"?
If you decrese the brightness, you will see that in all three photos the brightest spot is 1/3 below of the top of the building.

3) The claim "Valley lighted" is simply wrong.
Decrese the brightness of the 3rd pic until it fits the brightness of the 1st pic and you will see that "Valley lighted" is bullshit.


Now look at the photo below "More Shadows Change on the Buildings in these dates:"

Time difference in both equation = more than 2 minutes.
This accounts in a difference in the suns position above the sky of 32.5 arcmin = 0.54° = more than one sun diameter.
Taking into account atmospheric refraction, highest close to the horizon, this is more than sufficient to change the shadow in the way shown in the pictures.

The Ning-tards seem to be quite desperate when they try to make up an alleged Earth wobble with pictures like this.

.
 Quoting: Hydra


1) Why do they change the sequence of the photos: 05:59:05 - 05:59:10 - 05:59:09 ?
 Quoting: Hydra


May 17 2008 05:59:05
May 17 2012 05:59:10
May 17 2013 05:59:09
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I wonder if Art Bell will have her on his new show when it starts next month.
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Can someone explain please what the ningtards got wrong in their latest blog

poleshift dot ning dot com/profiles/blogs/webcams-and-archives-earth-wobble-and-plan​et-x-in-real-time

Please look at the first three photos. What's wrong here? Thanks!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44944530

There is a lot wrong.

1) Why do they change the sequence of the photos: 05:59:05 - 05:59:10 - 05:59:09 ?
If you bring it into the right sequence, you can estimate that there are clouds around the sun: 1st pic little sunlight, 2nd pic full sunlight, 3rd pic lesser sunlight.

2) What does it mean "Sunlight Striking High/Low"?
If you decrese the brightness, you will see that in all three photos the brightest spot is 1/3 below of the top of the building.

3) The claim "Valley lighted" is simply wrong.
Decrese the brightness of the 3rd pic until it fits the brightness of the 1st pic and you will see that "Valley lighted" is bullshit.


Now look at the photo below "More Shadows Change on the Buildings in these dates:"

Time difference in both equation = more than 2 minutes.
This accounts in a difference in the suns position above the sky of 32.5 arcmin = 0.54° = more than one sun diameter.
Taking into account atmospheric refraction, highest close to the horizon, this is more than sufficient to change the shadow in the way shown in the pictures.

The Ning-tards seem to be quite desperate when they try to make up an alleged Earth wobble with pictures like this.

.
 Quoting: Hydra


1) Why do they change the sequence of the photos: 05:59:05 - 05:59:10 - 05:59:09 ?
 Quoting: Hydra


May 17 2008 05:59:05
May 17 2012 05:59:10
May 17 2013 05:59:09
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My fault not to look at the year.

Still left 2) and 3) and the third picture in the post.

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I think that the Ning itself has lost way too much credibility to struggle on much longer, however the whole *second sun + companions* seems to be gaining unwarranted momentum. When the front door is shabby, invite people through the back door.
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So many second sun/Nibiru threads these past couple days.....




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So many second sun/Nibiru threads these past couple days.....
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Indeed.

It seems whenever we have some interesting events like the the sun chaning poles, meteor showers, comets etc.. the whole doom-tards get a new boost.

Some people really would like to see this planet going down.
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