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Worth posting again:

Although he calls it a lens flare, it's really better known as a "filter flare" which as mentioned above is why it doesn't move unless the "filter" moves. The filter can be any piece of flat glass in front of the lens. A window, a protective cover of a cell phone camera, etc.
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Thanks for all of your replied, it's greatly appreciated. Just one more question, if that's OK. I just saw this video:



I know the two specs of light that move around are lens flares, but the one that doesn't move with the camera you can see lowering as time goes on in the video, so presumably it isn't something from the camera. Is it most likely the moon, or is that not possible?
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If the clouds acts like a lence itself from ice crystals, it could be a cloud flare
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I know what you mean about filter flares and etc., I was asking more because the 'object' lowers over time throughout the video, so I assumed it was something actually in the video.
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I know what you mean about filter flares and etc., I was asking more because the 'object' lowers over time throughout the video, so I assumed it was something actually in the video.
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Well the sun's causing the flare and it's getting lower over the course of the video, so too will its resulting reflection or filter flare.
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I have just been checking Alberto`s latest lenseflares. They are jumping around like crazy dogs. Is it possible they make a kind of sundance?

But for the ningtards this is magic. They congratulate each other to that great shot and think it is amazing. And Pixel-Poli (PP) is changing the colours of the lenseflares. I wonder who is more stupid, PP or Flareberto.
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I have just been checking Alberto`s latest lenseflares. They are jumping around like crazy dogs. Is it possible they make a kind of sundance?
But for the ningtards this is magic. They congratulate each other to that great shot and think it is amazing. And Pixel-Poli (PP) is changing the colours of the lenseflares. I wonder who is more stupid, PP or Flareberto.
 Quoting: Truther 45120550


Well if the Zetas have halted the Earth in its orbit and Nancy has met dozens of alien species including a race of BroomStickmen, then I ask “What could be considered impossible?”
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I have just been checking Alberto`s latest lenseflares. They are jumping around like crazy dogs. Is it possible they make a kind of sundance?
But for the ningtards this is magic. They congratulate each other to that great shot and think it is amazing. And Pixel-Poli (PP) is changing the colours of the lenseflares. I wonder who is more stupid, PP or Flareberto.
 Quoting: Truther 45120550


Well if the Zetas have halted the Earth in its orbit and Nancy has met dozens of alien species including a race of BroomStickmen, then I ask “What could be considered impossible?”
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invisible metal-boxes, earth wobble, the "dark twin"....

Yes there certainly are lot of these totally irrational claims.
One of the most irrational certainly is the "earth halted BS", because its one of those claims where Nancy wants to have it both ways:
- to be real,
- and not real (simulated),

When they discuss Flarebertos images the basis that Nancy uses for her skychart (or furthermore the basis that Nancy's program uses) is the regular skychart as calculated by mainstream science.

Obviously this "earth is halted BS" did not really fruited as desired so she pulled up the "sky is simulated excuse" to further give responsibility to someone else and have an excuse when everything is normal (as usual), while keeping the possibility open to exploit the simulation whenever she finds alleged twirling Moonswirls or whatever to confirmation-feed her followers.

"Consistent" Zeta-believers must believe the sky is simulated as they are not able to deny the fact that we're not out of position, in that Nancy managed to spread enough "dissonance" so that they won't trust their own judgement anymore.
They might look at an astronomical event and must think this all somehow "simulated"...
BUT there is no simulation! No sudden changes!
Planets do not just jump out of the norm, otherwise it be noted, so how do you get a "simulation" neccessary to go undetected by all astronomers around the world?

Right. You just show the course as usual, in other words, THE ACTUAL COURSE.

Then they should ask themselves where the difference in Nancy's "simulation" and our "reality" lies to possibly conclude:

There is none! Its one and the same!

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I have just been checking Alberto`s latest lenseflares. They are jumping around like crazy dogs. Is it possible they make a kind of sundance?

But for the ningtards this is magic. They congratulate each other to that great shot and think it is amazing. And Pixel-Poli (PP) is changing the colours of the lenseflares. I wonder who is more stupid, PP or Flareberto.
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It`s difficult to judge who is the undefeated heavyweight champion of stupidity over there. But one thing is sure. If we talk about stupid or crazy people guys like PP, Alberto, Khan and all the rest of it will always stand in the front row. They are the Ningtards who want to find evidence for a planet which doesn`t exist. We call this phenomenon the "Nobeeryou Paradox".

But such things will always happen if some people stay too long in a cult. The effects have a strong influence on their mental health. Some awake, others get totally lost. At least Ann S. found out what Nancytalk is all about: hoaxes, inconsistence and very nasty internet pranks.

Apart from that my own prophecy about Nancy`s latest behaviour was again a hit and strike.

In her latest 7 of 10 hoax letter Nancy babbles a lot of nonsense about all kinds of weird things. But she definitely tries to avoid the topic of the announcement now. Litterally spoken you can feel that she absolutely wants to get rid of it. She is wringing her hands in desperation and looking for a flimsy excuse. But she can`t find one. She had to cancel her 7 of 10 predictions due to total failure and now she needs something. But this announcement was a boomerang which smacked her hard on her fraudulent forehead. And more and more of her zealots get wary and can see her apparent lies.

The old and always cheating guru from Wisconsin is in big trouble now...

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Did Ann S. get in touch with anyone after breaking up with nancy?
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Did Ann S. get in touch with anyone after breaking up with nancy?
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So far I haven't heared anything from her.
I hope she will get in touch though, it would be nice to talk to her from another perspective putting aside all the ZetaBS.
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Did Ann S. get in touch with anyone after breaking up with nancy?
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Ann S. is still registered as a member of the poleshit.ning, but couldn't find her Astrogal account.

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Did Ann S. get in touch with anyone after breaking up with nancy?
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Ann S. is still registered as a member of the poleshit.ning, but couldn't find her Astrogal account.

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I could see how a withdrawal from a cult-like environment might be depressing. It probably takes a toll on one’s ego.

One day you are living in a world with exotic aliens and mystery planets. You may even believe you are contributing to discoveries that the best minds on earth have yet to understand or detect. If the bubble truly bursts, you may suddenly find that you aren’t quite as special as you once felt. I can see how that might be hard.

I could be wrong about MoreAboutTunnelVision, but it seems like “activism” really helped in his case. Being honest and admitting errors and then trying to help others out of the pit of deceit from which you just arose has to be a big aid in the recovery process.
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Did Ann S. get in touch with anyone after breaking up with nancy?
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Ann S. is still registered as a member of the poleshit.ning, but couldn't find her Astrogal account.

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I could see how a withdrawal from a cult-like environment might be depressing. It probably takes a toll on one’s ego.

One day you are living in a world with exotic aliens and mystery planets. You may even believe you are contributing to discoveries that the best minds on earth have yet to understand or detect. If the bubble truly bursts, you may suddenly find that you aren’t quite as special as you once felt. I can see how that might be hard.

I could be wrong about MoreAboutTunnelVision, but it seems like “activism” really helped in his case. Being honest and admitting errors and then trying to help others out of the pit of deceit from which you just arose has to be a big aid in the recovery process.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


Well observed Setheory.
Absolutely it was a recovery process for me in getting engaged in further clearing up the Zeta-issue.
Furthermore, writing the expose, planning the release and doing it certainly was a huge relief in regards of damage reduction for me though not enough for a "full recovery".

The fact that I am still here, discussing these topics speaks for itself.

Without a doubt, being active here on this thread by reflecting different viewpoints and expressing opinions helps to a HUGE DEGREE to process the information.

I like to encourage anyone to come forward with his thoughts or worries because talking about them can open the possibility for new input.

The keyword is (correctly as you named it):
Activity (Vitality) contrary to passiveness (Depression).

Its important to fill the void that the bursting bubble created.
For me that ment sorting out the issue and concluding a worldview based on a different model from now on.

hf
Thank you all for your participation again.

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You have my respect....
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You have my respect....
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Much appreciated and absolutely likewise!

I often wondered how you got involved into the Zeta-Saga because you apparently have an in-depth-understanding of the matter.

Not that I really expect an answer from you now,
but I just wondered if it would be possible to gain such an insight without having been "into it".

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You have my respect....
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Much appreciated and absolutely likewise!

I often wondered how you got involved into the Zeta-Saga because you apparently have an in-depth-understanding of the matter.

Not that I really expect an answer from you now,
but I just wondered if it would be possible to gain such an insight without having been "into it".
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I have a similar story I've never shared. I'm on my iPhone now, but maybe I'll fire up my laptop on a Saturday morning and share that tale with you.
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What? Ann has parted ways with Nancy? When did this happen?
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What? Ann has parted ways with Nancy? When did this happen?
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I have a similar story I've never shared. I'm on my iPhone now, but maybe I'll fire up my laptop on a Saturday morning and share that tale with you.
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hf

What? Ann has parted ways with Nancy? When did this happen?
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Its not something we are certain about, but we concluded it because Ann has not been active for a suspicious long time...
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If she has given up on Nancy and "ZetaTalk," we shouldn't be surprised. With the exception of a very small few, most of her former believers simply disappear. They never publicly post why they left or what made them realize Nancy is wrong...and Ann is one person I would have liked to have heard from after her attacks on "debunkers" and adamant insistence that Obama would be announcing "Planet X" any day now for the last year.

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the only announcement i am waiting for obama to announce is there is NO OIL in egypt therefore we cannot send any military into that hostile zone. While iam wait i will play my own version of annoucement game called "guess when "nancy LIEder" will pass on" so far iam having a horrible accuracy rate feeling a bit of kinship lol in my accuracy.
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Didn't you hear?

Obama had a press conference scheduled to announce Planet X when the EQ hitting Japan preempted it.

Zeta Max still wanted for questioning by Interpol
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The sad thing is that some of them really seem to believe that there will be such a thing like an announcement. All their 7/10 nonsense was an epic fail.

And now they are waiting for the next epic fail. It`s sad how cults can affect innocent people and make them to zombies who run around with old floppy disks or look for strange pixels in odd pictures. The cult destroyed their ability to think.
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Didn't you hear?

Obama had a press conference scheduled to announce Planet X when the EQ hitting Japan preempted it.

Zeta Max still wanted for questioning by Interpol
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Didn't you hear the aliens tried to mitigate the earthquake by their invisible metal-boxes in the ocean?
A bluescreen prevented the boxes from working, otherwise Obama would have been able to do what Snowden managed with ease.

Nancy is still wanted by the los Zetas for putting BS over their name...

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Nothing new with Nancytalk

Flareberto is presenting his latest lenseflares.
Pixel Pol is showing some ridiculous pixels.
7 0f 10 landed in the trash can.
And no announcement will ever come.

Crazy Nancy`s little talk is a freak show in these days ...

poopspamlolsign

But well it always was ...
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I love how this thread started when ZT had failed for six years, and now what is it -- eleven?

And the Ning seems to be a ghost town.
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So is ISON going to be the next few months DOOM-attractor?
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So is ISON going to be the next few months DOOM-attractor?
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Unfortunately yes. At least the NibiruTards/ChemTards have slowed down a bit.
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Yep. I've already seen a few threads about it...mostly claims that it isn't really a comet. Which is what AA/IDW has been claiming as well. No matter though...three short months will prove them wrong.
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Yep. I've already seen a few threads about it...mostly claims that it isn't really a comet. Which is what AA/IDW has been claiming as well. No matter though...three short months will prove them wrong.
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Three short month with a revival of the Elenin crap can appear quite long.

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