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Unfortunately, having seen her recover from such failures in the past, I doubt it will slow her down for long...

She recovered from 2003,2005 and I do believe she will recover from this as well unfortunately

I suspect she will do the same trick she did in the past to boot- simply lay low for a while, find a new forum to recruit followers from again and start all over again with another new date

The only thing that will stop her in the end will be her health I suspect
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Unfortunately, having seen her recover from such failures in the past, I doubt it will slow her down for long...

She recovered from 2003,2005 and I do believe she will recover from this as well unfortunately

I suspect she will do the same trick she did in the past to boot- simply lay low for a while, find a new forum to recruit followers from again and start all over again with another new date

The only thing that will stop her in the end will be her health I suspect
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True, although the 2012 hype to a great deal boosted her numbers..
Now that we are well past 2012 and no rumor-doom in sight other than the manmade conflicts, I must confess I doubt she will gain much more attention anymore.
The fact that she is old and the fact that debunkers collected very effective material also adds to it.

Who even knows if she still wants the limelight at all?

It appears she is quite happy about the slowly crippling death of her deception without significant outrages of her members.

But then you never know... Wisco Nightmares can appear out of the blue (this one is for Ninny)

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Unfortunately, having seen her recover from such failures in the past, I doubt it will slow her down for long...

She recovered from 2003,2005 and I do believe she will recover from this as well unfortunately

I suspect she will do the same trick she did in the past to boot- simply lay low for a while, find a new forum to recruit followers from again and start all over again with another new date

The only thing that will stop her in the end will be her health I suspect
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What you say is true...but to recover this time she'll have to either allow free and open discussion on the ning OR come back to GLP. Let's face it - she was at her most popular when she was here. Each time she's gone to a site where she has complete control, her popularity has plummeted.

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I see that Comet ISON, so far anyway, appears to be a big dud. Although that isn't keeping some people from predicting doom because of it.

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Unfortunately, having seen her recover from such failures in the past, I doubt it will slow her down for long...

She recovered from 2003,2005 and I do believe she will recover from this as well unfortunately

I suspect she will do the same trick she did in the past to boot- simply lay low for a while, find a new forum to recruit followers from again and start all over again with another new date

The only thing that will stop her in the end will be her health I suspect
 Quoting: aussie 763624 46002258


What you say is true...but to recover this time she'll have to either allow free and open discussion on the OR come back to GLP. Let's face it - she was at her most popular when she was here. Each time she's gone to a site where she has complete control, her popularity has plummeted.
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hi cb long time no talk

true- but it has always been her operatus modus (sp?) in the past to do that (to a certain extent)- start with the `open' forum before gradually tightening control (I am thinking of the forum she had back 2004/5 I cant remember the name or I would look it up on the wayback machine

Admittedly she has to a certain extent `excess baggage' she didnt have in the past in that she has a wider net visibility she didnt have in 2003, but that didnt slow her down that much in 2005 in finding new suckers/converts- and I suspect that she would start again in a conspiracy `backwater' that she could downplay any debunkers long enough to get a reasonably solid local group of supporters then build again from that

(look at what she did here- I personally suspect that she actually had a major part in building glp up into a major player myself- I was here when it was elinors forum, and it was nothing like glp today- it was a relatively small forum, low traffic, pretty much another quiet little forum
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Hopefully the ninny & ninnytardness will fall into ever increasing obscurity, where it belongs. I reckon she'll side step past failures & seek pastures (victims) new....the problem being that she's running out of dimwits (lost, unhappy souls).

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Hopefully the ninny & ninnytardness will fall into ever increasing obscurity, where it belongs. I reckon she'll side step past failures & seek pastures (victims) new....the problem being that she's running out of dimwits (lost, unhappy souls).
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unfortunately I dont see her running out of dimwits any time soon- a quick look at the forums first page shows that is unlikely- lol

Having watched her spin herself out of `white lies' before- I really see her getting a new fan baee (again) rather easily

not that I am happy about this (my personal preference would to see her locked away) but I am sadly unrealistic about that happening, and she unfortunately has `the gift of the gab' as we call it here- imho- she will bounce back again and will claim more victims

the only ray of sunshine is that her health is failing, maybe she will pass on before she claims anymore victims

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Ahhh. I feel so at home here. A bastion of sanity in a world of, well, I don't want to be too judgmental.

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Ahhh. I feel so at home here. A bastion of sanity in a world of, well, I don't want to be too judgmental.

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Hello lovely! Hope all is good with you :)))

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Yes, thank you Ele. Back on GLP, for a while anyway.

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Yes, thank you Ele. Back on GLP, for a while anyway.

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Well.........the option is yours my friend :))) tis easy to bypass the bane hammer!!

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Yes, thank you Ele. Back on GLP, for a while anyway.

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Well.........the option is yours my friend :))) tis easy to bypass the bane hammer!!
 Quoting: Elemental


True dat! I'm considering it. I've got the resources.

BTW, whats the general consensus on crop circles here?

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Yes, thank you Ele. Back on GLP, for a while anyway.

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Well.........the option is yours my friend :))) tis easy to bypass the bane hammer!!
 Quoting: Elemental


True dat! I'm considering it. I've got the resources.

BTW, whats the general consensus on crop circles here?
LBJ
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I suspect the consensus to be “wonderfully creative humans”.

Personally, I wish that said circles were some type of communication with aliens or our future selves. I also suspect many of the “debunkers” and “shills” here share that wish which is contrary to what the woo woos might think of us. Most of us have an interest and attraction to strange phenomenon, but we need facts and proof before we invest in “belief”.
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Yes, thank you Ele. Back on GLP, for a while anyway.

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Well.........the option is yours my friend :))) tis easy to bypass the bane hammer!!
 Quoting: Elemental


True dat! I'm considering it. I've got the resources.

BTW, whats the general consensus on crop circles here?

LBJ
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No idea! Some are damn clever tho, especially the Juliet set.
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Yes, thank you Ele. Back on GLP, for a while anyway.

flowas
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Well.........the option is yours my friend :))) tis easy to bypass the bane hammer!!
 Quoting: Elemental


True dat! I'm considering it. I've got the resources.

BTW, whats the general consensus on crop circles here?
LBJ
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I suspect the consensus to be “wonderfully creative humans”.

Personally, I wish that said circles were some type of communication with aliens or our future selves. I also suspect many of the “debunkers” and “shills” here share that wish which is contrary to what the woo woos might think of us. Most of us have an interest and attraction to strange phenomenon, but we need facts and proof before we invest in “belief”.
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I agree totally. Bloody clever tho!
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Yes, thank you Ele. Back on GLP, for a while anyway.

flowas
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Well.........the option is yours my friend :))) tis easy to bypass the bane hammer!!
 Quoting: Elemental


True dat! I'm considering it. I've got the resources.

BTW, whats the general consensus on crop circles here?
LBJ
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I suspect the consensus to be “wonderfully creative humans”.

Personally, I wish that said circles were some type of communication with aliens or our future selves. I also suspect many of the “debunkers” and “shills” here share that wish which is contrary to what the woo woos might think of us. Most of us have an interest and attraction to strange phenomenon, but we need facts and proof before we invest in “belief”.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


I like that, "wonderfully creative humans." I too share the hope that someday proof will surface that this is not the only planet harboring sentient life. But as you say, facts, facts, facts.

Thanks for the indulgence.
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Well.........the option is yours my friend :))) tis easy to bypass the bane hammer!!
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True dat! I'm considering it. I've got the resources.

BTW, whats the general consensus on crop circles here?
LBJ
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I suspect the consensus to be “wonderfully creative humans”.

Personally, I wish that said circles were some type of communication with aliens or our future selves. I also suspect many of the “debunkers” and “shills” here share that wish which is contrary to what the woo woos might think of us. Most of us have an interest and attraction to strange phenomenon, but we need facts and proof before we invest in “belief”.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


I agree totally. Bloody clever tho!
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Too clever sometimes. dance
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True dat! I'm considering it. I've got the resources.

BTW, whats the general consensus on crop circles here?
LBJ
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I suspect the consensus to be “wonderfully creative humans”.

Personally, I wish that said circles were some type of communication with aliens or our future selves. I also suspect many of the “debunkers” and “shills” here share that wish which is contrary to what the woo woos might think of us. Most of us have an interest and attraction to strange phenomenon, but we need facts and proof before we invest in “belief”.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


I agree totally. Bloody clever tho!
 Quoting: Elemental


Too clever sometimes. dance
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Who knows? The possibilities are endless :))
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Unfortunately, having seen her recover from such failures in the past, I doubt it will slow her down for long...

She recovered from 2003,2005 and I do believe she will recover from this as well unfortunately

I suspect she will do the same trick she did in the past to boot- simply lay low for a while, find a new forum to recruit followers from again and start all over again with another new date

The only thing that will stop her in the end will be her health I suspect
 Quoting: aussie 763624 46002258


What you say is true...but to recover this time she'll have to either allow free and open discussion on the OR come back to GLP. Let's face it - she was at her most popular when she was here. Each time she's gone to a site where she has complete control, her popularity has plummeted.
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If she did come back to GLP it wouldn't last long, she is a mod no more and has no power to mute those who know her for what she is. I was banned from several of her threads just for asking simple honest questions. After the tripe she has put on her site about Trinity I would be surprised if he allowed her here at all.

She sure knows how to lose friends and alienate people.
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Unfortunately, having seen her recover from such failures in the past, I doubt it will slow her down for long...

She recovered from 2003,2005 and I do believe she will recover from this as well unfortunately

I suspect she will do the same trick she did in the past to boot- simply lay low for a while, find a new forum to recruit followers from again and start all over again with another new date

The only thing that will stop her in the end will be her health I suspect
 Quoting: aussie 763624 46002258


What you say is true...but to recover this time she'll have to either allow free and open discussion on the OR come back to GLP. Let's face it - she was at her most popular when she was here. Each time she's gone to a site where she has complete control, her popularity has plummeted.
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If she did come back to GLP it wouldn't last long, she is a mod no more and has no power to mute those who know her for what she is. I was banned from several of her threads just for asking simple honest questions. After the tripe she has put on her site about Trinity I would be surprised if he allowed her here at all.

She sure knows how to lose friends and alienate people.
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Her recent(ish) glp recruitment drives have ended, thankfully, in derision. She becomes more transparent with every zeta endorsed lens flare.
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Unfortunately, having seen her recover from such failures in the past, I doubt it will slow her down for long...

She recovered from 2003,2005 and I do believe she will recover from this as well unfortunately

I suspect she will do the same trick she did in the past to boot- simply lay low for a while, find a new forum to recruit followers from again and start all over again with another new date

The only thing that will stop her in the end will be her health I suspect
 Quoting: aussie 763624 46002258


What you say is true...but to recover this time she'll have to either allow free and open discussion on the OR come back to GLP. Let's face it - she was at her most popular when she was here. Each time she's gone to a site where she has complete control, her popularity has plummeted.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


If she did come back to GLP it wouldn't last long, she is a mod no more and has no power to mute those who know her for what she is. I was banned from several of her threads just for asking simple honest questions. After the tripe she has put on her site about Trinity I would be surprised if he allowed her here at all.

She sure knows how to lose friends and alienate people.
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Her recent(ish) glp recruitment drives have ended, thankfully, in derision. She becomes more transparent with every zeta endorsed lens flare.
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I think they ended before she started, it was a refreshing change to actually see people questioning her on a thread she was on, that was never seen back in the day.

*high5's Ele and offers a glass of wine*
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Yes, thank you Ele. Back on GLP, for a while anyway.

flowas
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Well.........the option is yours my friend :))) tis easy to bypass the bane hammer!!
 Quoting: Elemental


True dat! I'm considering it. I've got the resources.

BTW, whats the general consensus on crop circles here?
LBJ
 Quoting: Little Baby Jesus


I suspect the consensus to be “wonderfully creative humans”.

Personally, I wish that said circles were some type of communication with aliens or our future selves. I also suspect many of the “debunkers” and “shills” here share that wish which is contrary to what the woo woos might think of us. Most of us have an interest and attraction to strange phenomenon, but we need facts and proof before we invest in “belief”.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


This may seem like a strange comment, coming from the likes of me, but... I have reason to believe that in the ultimate picture, belief may be instrumental in shaping our "reality" and experiences. That is not to say belief in easily disproven claims of physical events and data. It's more esoteric than that, and I can't thoroughly explain what I mean. I'm not really differing with what you said, in the way I think you meant it. It'about "belief" on a sort-of higher level. A spiritual level, if you will. I do tend to believe that there exists "alternate realities" and the reality we experience may be dictated by our "beliefs", in some manner.

The above is not to say that the people who believe they have physical proof of claims like those of Nancy's actually have that proof. They don't... or... if they do, I have never seen it. I have only seen obvious falsehoods, misrepresentations, etc.

I don't know how contradictory the above might seem, but it's just the way I have tried to understand the universe we inhabit.
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I suspect the consensus to be “wonderfully creative humans”.
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Agreed.
The UFO phenomena remains unresolved for me though,
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I suspect the consensus to be “wonderfully creative humans”.
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Agreed.
The UFO phenomena remains unresolved for me though,
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As people like Whitley Strieber and Linda Howe eventually concluded, the phenomenon probably goes way beyond your "little green men from mars" scenario. It seems to involve other-dimensional stuff or something equally bizarre and hard to fathom.
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As much as Nancy will probably hate to admit it - she needs "debunkers". Posts from us drove up the count on her threads - making her appear more popular and she was able to use us as "proof" that the government was/is trying desperately to cover up "Planet X". Without us, there isn't much discussion because her followers pretty much tow the line and believe whatever she tells them. Leaving GLP was her biggest mistake. She didn't learn the first time she left - although she's managed to keep the ning going longer than her first attempt at complete control. But, in both cases, her popularity dropped. I don't know why she chooses to bash/alienate those she has dealt with in the past. She was quite the fan of Art Bell until he wasn't inviting her back on his program...then she started bashing him and the show claiming the government had gotten to him, which is nothing more than excuse to explain to her believers why she was getting fewer and fewer media appearances which, as far as I know, have all pretty much dried up - except for an occasional appearance on a fringe TV or radio show. But those appearances are few and far between now. At the height of her "popularity", she was appearing frequently on morning radio programs - where she lapped up the attention, thinking she was being taken seriously when, in reality, the opposite was true. The only reason she was on the program was because of her outlandish claims - it made for a good laugh during the morning commute. And here we are today, 10 years later, where Nancy finds ZetaTalk a shadow of its former self. Her popularity at all time lows. ZetaTalk's global ranking stands at 121,253 - down 6,404. At one time, her ranking was above 40,000 as recently as the beginning of 2013. The ning is fairing even worse. In 2012, its global ranking was above 30,000. Today, it stands at 127,820 - down 17,317 just within the last 3 months alone. Unfortunately, Alexa doesn't break down the information further unless you upgrade.
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As much as Nancy will probably hate to admit it - she needs "debunkers". Posts from us drove up the count on her threads - making her appear more popular and she was able to use us as "proof" that the government was/is trying desperately to cover up "Planet X". Without us, there isn't much discussion because her followers pretty much tow the line and believe whatever she tells them. Leaving GLP was her biggest mistake. She didn't learn the first time she left - although she's managed to keep the ning going longer than her first attempt at complete control. But, in both cases, her popularity dropped. I don't know why she chooses to bash/alienate those she has dealt with in the past. She was quite the fan of Art Bell until he wasn't inviting her back on his program...then she started bashing him and the show claiming the government had gotten to him, which is nothing more than excuse to explain to her believers why she was getting fewer and fewer media appearances which, as far as I know, have all pretty much dried up - except for an occasional appearance on a fringe TV or radio show. But those appearances are few and far between now. At the height of her "popularity", she was appearing frequently on morning radio programs - where she lapped up the attention, thinking she was being taken seriously when, in reality, the opposite was true. The only reason she was on the program was because of her outlandish claims - it made for a good laugh during the morning commute. And here we are today, 10 years later, where Nancy finds ZetaTalk a shadow of its former self. Her popularity at all time lows. ZetaTalk's global ranking stands at 121,253 - down 6,404. At one time, her ranking was above 40,000 as recently as the beginning of 2013. The ning is fairing even worse. In 2012, its global ranking was above 30,000. Today, it stands at 127,820 - down 17,317 just within the last 3 months alone. Unfortunately, Alexa doesn't break down the information further unless you upgrade.
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Seems like a an accurate analysis to me. One thing though, nothing lasts forever. It may be that NL and her fantasyland has run its course. Yes, there probably will still be the mentally challenged few that follow her, but not in the numbers she previously enjoyed. Too much history to sustain it with a straight face any longer. Plus, I think a lot of her appeal was in riding the wave of 2012. Now that's behind us, there is no supporting apocalyptic framework (besides religious zealots) to hold up her flimsy (and becoming more so every day) story. Nibs is dying a slow, natural death. What will I occupy my time with next?
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As much as Nancy will probably hate to admit it - she needs "debunkers". Posts from us drove up the count on her threads - making her appear more popular and she was able to use us as "proof" that the government was/is trying desperately to cover up "Planet X". Without us, there isn't much discussion because her followers pretty much tow the line and believe whatever she tells them. Leaving GLP was her biggest mistake. She didn't learn the first time she left - although she's managed to keep the ning going longer than her first attempt at complete control. But, in both cases, her popularity dropped. I don't know why she chooses to bash/alienate those she has dealt with in the past. She was quite the fan of Art Bell until he wasn't inviting her back on his program...then she started bashing him and the show claiming the government had gotten to him, which is nothing more than excuse to explain to her believers why she was getting fewer and fewer media appearances which, as far as I know, have all pretty much dried up - except for an occasional appearance on a fringe TV or radio show. But those appearances are few and far between now. At the height of her "popularity", she was appearing frequently on morning radio programs - where she lapped up the attention, thinking she was being taken seriously when, in reality, the opposite was true. The only reason she was on the program was because of her outlandish claims - it made for a good laugh during the morning commute. And here we are today, 10 years later, where Nancy finds ZetaTalk a shadow of its former self. Her popularity at all time lows. ZetaTalk's global ranking stands at 121,253 - down 6,404. At one time, her ranking was above 40,000 as recently as the beginning of 2013. The ning is fairing even worse. In 2012, its global ranking was above 30,000. Today, it stands at 127,820 - down 17,317 just within the last 3 months alone. Unfortunately, Alexa doesn't break down the information further unless you upgrade.
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Nancy's heavy influence lives on, IMO. She was the original instigator of the idea that there are government agents prowling the internet, paid to dissuade people from seeing the real TRVTH. Nancy pushed the idea of a vast, hidden conspiracy, in general, to where so many people came to accept it as fact. Who invented phrases like: "Does NASA lie?" and the like. Nancy Lieder. Somehow, I think that may have been the purpose behind Zetatalk- to create the deep schism and antagonism we see today, all over the internet.

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All gurus and cult-leaders try to push the idea of a big government conspiracy. Their target group is ideal for that nonsense. They hope to gain more credibility.

Unfortunately these target groups never verify the claims of their leaders. If you took a closer look at LIEDers prophecies you would find out easily that it`s all pure bullshit (or should we say lenseshit?).

Today Obama will make an announcement and answer questions but the topic is Syria. The whole world will be watching him and this would be the ideal moment for his "announcement". But nobody will announce something that doesn`t exist. The Ningtards will be disappointed again. Their problem is their inability to think. Everybody who had these skills meanwhile left the Ning. The rest is a brainwashed bunch of people who adore lenseflares and other paranoid stuff.

And August is over tomorrow. So Nanny`s latest prediction failed again. Boom, headshot! Now Nanny`s wackos can wonder why the excuse for the excuse (the epic failure of the 7/10) failed again. The answer is quite easy: because they are brainwashed wackos who believe every BS.
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Well.........the option is yours my friend :))) tis easy to bypass the bane hammer!!
 Quoting: Elemental


True dat! I'm considering it. I've got the resources.

BTW, whats the general consensus on crop circles here?
LBJ
 Quoting: Little Baby Jesus


I suspect the consensus to be “wonderfully creative humans”.

Personally, I wish that said circles were some type of communication with aliens or our future selves. I also suspect many of the “debunkers” and “shills” here share that wish which is contrary to what the woo woos might think of us. Most of us have an interest and attraction to strange phenomenon, but we need facts and proof before we invest in “belief”.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


This may seem like a strange comment, coming from the likes of me, but... I have reason to believe that in the ultimate picture, belief may be instrumental in shaping our "reality" and experiences. That is not to say belief in easily disproven claims of physical events and data. It's more esoteric than that, and I can't thoroughly explain what I mean. I'm not really differing with what you said, in the way I think you meant it. It'about "belief" on a sort-of higher level. A spiritual level, if you will. I do tend to believe that there exists "alternate realities" and the reality we experience may be dictated by our "beliefs", in some manner.

The above is not to say that the people who believe they have physical proof of claims like those of Nancy's actually have that proof. They don't... or... if they do, I have never seen it. I have only seen obvious falsehoods, misrepresentations, etc.

I don't know how contradictory the above might seem, but it's just the way I have tried to understand the universe we inhabit.
 Quoting: Menow 838929


It took a whilefor you to express this, but you finally did it. Congratulations, Menow.

Just lemme change what you said a little bit (no offense here)

They don't... or... if they do, I have never seen it due to my current state of spiritual awakening. I have only seen obvious falsehoods, misrepresentations, etc.
 Quoting: Menow 838929


In the meantime, things take their course...
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True dat! I'm considering it. I've got the resources.

BTW, whats the general consensus on crop circles here?
LBJ
 Quoting: Little Baby Jesus


I suspect the consensus to be “wonderfully creative humans”.

Personally, I wish that said circles were some type of communication with aliens or our future selves. I also suspect many of the “debunkers” and “shills” here share that wish which is contrary to what the woo woos might think of us. Most of us have an interest and attraction to strange phenomenon, but we need facts and proof before we invest in “belief”.
 Quoting: Setheory 22372062


This may seem like a strange comment, coming from the likes of me, but... I have reason to believe that in the ultimate picture, belief may be instrumental in shaping our "reality" and experiences. That is not to say belief in easily disproven claims of physical events and data. It's more esoteric than that, and I can't thoroughly explain what I mean. I'm not really differing with what you said, in the way I think you meant it. It'about "belief" on a sort-of higher level. A spiritual level, if you will. I do tend to believe that there exists "alternate realities" and the reality we experience may be dictated by our "beliefs", in some manner.

The above is not to say that the people who believe they have physical proof of claims like those of Nancy's actually have that proof. They don't... or... if they do, I have never seen it. I have only seen obvious falsehoods, misrepresentations, etc.

I don't know how contradictory the above might seem, but it's just the way I have tried to understand the universe we inhabit.
 Quoting: Menow 838929


It took a whilefor you to express this, but you finally did it. Congratulations, Menow.

Just lemme change what you said a little bit (no offense here)

They don't... or... if they do, I have never seen it due to my current state of spiritual awakening. I have only seen obvious falsehoods, misrepresentations, etc.
 Quoting: Menow 838929


In the meantime, things take their course...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44359186


You clearly have no idea what I have expressed previously on this thread. I suggest that, at your leisure of course, you go fuck yourself.


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