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Yes Nancy LIEDer gets more and more desperate. Her glorious predictions seem to change now weekly. She is living in a cult box and this is her problem. She doesn`t understand the news and is prducing one hoax after the other.

And as her chief astronomers are blockheads like Flareberto and Pixel-Poli who can`t even write the word astronomy she can offer her cultists a daily hoax guarantee. For normal people they are only funny because so much concentrated stupidity seems to be irrational and incredible.

Probably they ate too much worms and they were creeping into their retarded brains.

LIEDer is now slowly preparing the excuse for the last excuse. Humming metal boxes, brain wobbling, rotating moons, computer game earth moaning: what little joke will she try next?

@Ele:

Chin up. I`m mostly harmless too. But I`ve learnt to ignore the stupidity or arrogance of others. And if they anger me I will come for them. This is for sure. You`re a good and great one. Let them alone with their brain wobbles.

When I arrived in this crazy scene in 2009 (February) I also made some terrible astronomic mistakes. Some found that funny or thought they are so smart. Within two years I wrote astronomic essays and rubbed their own stupidity into their faces. Just relax. They will hate us because we speak the truth but therefore we won`t stop to tell them the truth.

Nancytalk is a very nasty little dirty cult. And as most of the former zealots left or just realized that Ninny Nanny is a lying cult Jabba, only some are left. Their problem is that this freak show got their new religion.

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And as her chief astronomers are blockheads like Flareberto and Pixel-Poli who can`t even write the word astronomy she can offer her cultists a daily hoax guarantee. For normal people they are only funny because so much concentrated stupidity seems to be irrational and incredible.
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For them its "astrology" ^^
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Well, I have been watching these topics now for around five years and so far I`ve seen only one picture of Nibiru or Planet X which was no lenseflare or picture artifact.

[link to www.allmystery.de]

Perhaps this is the only genuine picture of Nibiru that exists so far!? Is this the real deal? Could these be my five minutes of glory? You decide.

Will Obama announce this planet? Btw: He had plenty of opportunities in the last two weeks. Even John Kerry spoke on five TV channels simultaneously. This is the basic difference between some wild fantasies of a crazy old woman and reality: reality is real. Nanny lives in a world of fairy tales, odd fantasies and other weird stuff.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Maybe Owe-Blame-A will invade Syria and call it "Operation: Pole Shift" which Nancy can then use as "proof" that the government still uses her site for information on "Planet X."
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Well, I have been watching these topics now for around five years and so far I`ve seen only one picture of Nibiru or Planet X which was no lenseflare or picture artifact.

[link to www.allmystery.de]

Perhaps this is the only genuine picture of Nibiru that exists so far!? Is this the real deal? Could these be my five minutes of glory? You decide.

Will Obama announce this planet? Btw: He had plenty of opportunities in the last two weeks. Even John Kerry spoke on five TV channels simultaneously. This is the basic difference between some wild fantasies of a crazy old woman and reality: reality is real. Nanny lives in a world of fairy tales, odd fantasies and other weird stuff.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Maybe Owe-Blame-A will invade Syria and call it "Operation: Pole Shift" which Nancy can then use as "proof" that the government still uses her site for information on "Planet X."
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Or "Operation Lens Flare"

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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Well, I have been watching these topics now for around five years and so far I`ve seen only one picture of Nibiru or Planet X which was no lenseflare or picture artifact.

[link to www.allmystery.de]

Perhaps this is the only genuine picture of Nibiru that exists so far!? Is this the real deal? Could these be my five minutes of glory? You decide.

Will Obama announce this planet? Btw: He had plenty of opportunities in the last two weeks. Even John Kerry spoke on five TV channels simultaneously. This is the basic difference between some wild fantasies of a crazy old woman and reality: reality is real. Nanny lives in a world of fairy tales, odd fantasies and other weird stuff.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Maybe Owe-Blame-A will invade Syria and call it "Operation: Pole Shift" which Nancy can then use as "proof" that the government still uses her site for information on "Planet X."
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Or "Operation Lens Flare"

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Lol ..in her latest hoaxletter crazy Nancy talks about eating worms and bugs. Well what should we expect from an old cult leader who told her followers to murder (and eat) their pets in 2003.
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Perhaps she thought that talking about nasty food can distract her tards from the big announcement fail. Is it possible that the followers already forgot it or are they only not allowed to talk about it on Nancy`s poleshit.ning.com.

Crazy old cult woman ...
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 Quoting: Truther 46340547


I really wish this false claim would stop being repeated. Nancy DID NOT tell people to eat their pets. She has said plenty of wacky things. Why do you need to repeat false ones?
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Lol ..in her latest hoaxletter crazy Nancy talks about eating worms and bugs. Well what should we expect from an old cult leader who told her followers to murder (and eat) their pets in 2003.
slaphim
Perhaps she thought that talking about nasty food can distract her tards from the big announcement fail. Is it possible that the followers already forgot it or are they only not allowed to talk about it on Nancy`s poleshit.ning.com.

Crazy old cult woman ...
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 Quoting: Truther 46340547


I really wish this false claim would stop being repeated. Nancy DID NOT tell people to eat their pets. She has said plenty of wacky things. Why do you need to repeat false ones?
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What she said was that a dog was a good meal, and the story spun up that way.
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Lol ..in her latest hoaxletter crazy Nancy talks about eating worms and bugs. Well what should we expect from an old cult leader who told her followers to murder (and eat) their pets in 2003.
slaphim
Perhaps she thought that talking about nasty food can distract her tards from the big announcement fail. Is it possible that the followers already forgot it or are they only not allowed to talk about it on Nancy`s poleshit.ning.com.

Crazy old cult woman ...
crazycrazytdown
 Quoting: Truther 46340547


I really wish this false claim would stop being repeated. Nancy DID NOT tell people to eat their pets. She has said plenty of wacky things. Why do you need to repeat false ones?
 Quoting: Menow 41300759


What she said was that a dog was a good meal, and the story spun up that way.
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Yes. She was saying that it was a good idea to put pets down before the pole shift because other people would just kill and eat them. Truth is, if her poleshift was a reality, it might have been a reasonable idea.

If you consider euthanizing pets to be "murder", you should be picketing humane societies all over the county.
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Lol ..in her latest hoaxletter crazy Nancy talks about eating worms and bugs. Well what should we expect from an old cult leader who told her followers to murder (and eat) their pets in 2003.
slaphim
Perhaps she thought that talking about nasty food can distract her tards from the big announcement fail. Is it possible that the followers already forgot it or are they only not allowed to talk about it on Nancy`s poleshit.ning.com.

Crazy old cult woman ...
crazycrazytdown
 Quoting: Truther 46340547


I really wish this false claim would stop being repeated. Nancy DID NOT tell people to eat their pets. She has said plenty of wacky things. Why do you need to repeat false ones?
 Quoting: Menow 41300759


What she said was that a dog was a good meal, and the story spun up that way.
 Quoting: 74444


Yes. She was saying that it was a good idea to put pets down before the pole shift because other people would just kill and eat them. Truth is, if her poleshift was a reality, it might have been a reasonable idea.

If you consider euthanizing pets to be "murder", you should be picketing humane societies all over the county.
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Still, the advice to euthanize pets because of and before an event that *never happened* is pretty icky.
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Y'know what? I'm struggling with the hate (again) on this forum...I'm the first to admit my ignorance on certain subjects and am fed up of having sarcastic comments directed at me when I'm trying to learn stuff. Sorry, ranting.
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You are very intelligent so I wouldn't worry too much about those less so being sarcastic.

It seems to be something that many share in their close mindedness while screaming at others they need to have and open mind.

Also some sarcasm very likely isn't even aimed at you so why take it on at all?
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Because I'm as soft as candy floss :) & need to be harder? Probably lol :))
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They use sarcasm to hide the fact they have no clue at all.
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I really wish this false claim would stop being repeated. Nancy DID NOT tell people to eat their pets. She has said plenty of wacky things. Why do you need to repeat false ones?
 Quoting: Menow 41300759


What she said was that a dog was a good meal, and the story spun up that way.
 Quoting: 74444


Yes. She was saying that it was a good idea to put pets down before the pole shift because other people would just kill and eat them. Truth is, if her poleshift was a reality, it might have been a reasonable idea.

If you consider euthanizing pets to be "murder", you should be picketing humane societies all over the county.
 Quoting: Menow 41300759


Still, the advice to euthanize pets because of and before an event that *never happened* is pretty icky.
 Quoting: 74444


The advice actually given by her is insane at best, even if you discount the 'preemptive' aspect of her logic. If you really think about it, in a world gone so batshit that killing domesticated pets becomes an option (if not necessity) to remain alive, all bets are off anyway. What difference does it make once the animal is dead if it's used for food to survive. I admit that it's an obviously unsavory notion for people who aren't currently starving to death (I love my dogs -- past and present). But hey, none of us know what we are capable of when it comes to true life and death situations, especially the agony of slowing starving to death.
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Lol ..in her latest hoaxletter crazy Nancy talks about eating worms and bugs. Well what should we expect from an old cult leader who told her followers to murder (and eat) their pets in 2003.
slaphim
Perhaps she thought that talking about nasty food can distract her tards from the big announcement fail. Is it possible that the followers already forgot it or are they only not allowed to talk about it on Nancy`s poleshit.ning.com.

Crazy old cult woman ...
crazycrazytdown
 Quoting: Truther 46340547


I really wish this false claim would stop being repeated. Nancy DID NOT tell people to eat their pets. She has said plenty of wacky things. Why do you need to repeat false ones?
 Quoting: Menow 41300759


What she said was that a dog was a good meal, and the story spun up that way.
 Quoting: 74444


Yes. She was saying that it was a good idea to put pets down before the pole shift because other people would just kill and eat them. Truth is, if her poleshift was a reality, it might have been a reasonable idea.

If you consider euthanizing pets to be "murder", you should be picketing humane societies all over the county.
 Quoting: Menow 41300759

Did you drink? She told her followers to murder their pets. And then she told them that a dog is a good meal.

Besides that she also told them in 2003 the poleshift is near. They shouldn`t pay their bills anymore and a dog is a good meal.

Did you see her crazy clip where she was talking about puppy lake. How can you defend such an old fucking bitch?
And she really ate them.

So her followers ate them, too (in 2003). And what now?
She is an old liar and fraudster but it is difficult to keep her last bigots in line. Even Niels N. understood that crazy Nanny made a fool out of him.

Of course old blockheads like Alberto and Pixel-Poli will never understand this. They live in their own world.

Nancy got old and very wacky. I wonder which excuse she will offer her last tards for her announcement failure.
It wont be serious but very funny.
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I really wish this false claim would stop being repeated. Nancy DID NOT tell people to eat their pets. She has said plenty of wacky things. Why do you need to repeat false ones?
 Quoting: Menow 41300759


What she said was that a dog was a good meal, and the story spun up that way.
 Quoting: 74444


Yes. She was saying that it was a good idea to put pets down before the pole shift because other people would just kill and eat them. Truth is, if her poleshift was a reality, it might have been a reasonable idea.

If you consider euthanizing pets to be "murder", you should be picketing humane societies all over the county.
 Quoting: Menow 41300759

Did you drink? She told her followers to murder their pets. And then she told them that a dog is a good meal.

Besides that she also told them in 2003 the poleshift is near. They shouldn`t pay their bills anymore and a dog is a good meal.

Did you see her crazy clip where she was talking about puppy lake. How can you defend such an old fucking bitch?
And she really ate them.

So her followers ate them, too (in 2003). And what now?
She is an old liar and fraudster but it is difficult to keep her last bigots in line. Even Niels N. understood that crazy Nanny made a fool out of him.

Of course old blockheads like Alberto and Pixel-Poli will never understand this. They live in their own world.

Nancy got old and very wacky. I wonder which excuse she will offer her last tards for her announcement failure.
It wont be serious but very funny.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


I can understand Menow's position absolutely and agree.
Lets get the facts (quotes) straight and avoid further interpretation because that way we will only make ourselves less credible.

In my opinion it has nothing to do with defending Nancy, but is merely an appeal to avoid putting words into someone's mouth (as rotten as it may be).

BTW: I don't think Nancy really put down her dog but felt pressed to make such a statement because the interviewer was picking on her credibility on that matter.
It sounded like a knee-jerk response to me, but thats my opinion about it.

Either way, her response turned out to be very counter-productive and has since then be used as a strong argument against her, for right and good reasons.

Regarding Menow's statement that it would have been a reasonable idea considering the poleshift being a reality I disagree though.
In my mind there would still have been enough opportunities to wait with putting down a puppy as afterall a poleshift wouldn't happen out of the blue...

My .02, as someone said earlier.
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I really wish this false claim would stop being repeated. Nancy DID NOT tell people to eat their pets. She has said plenty of wacky things. Why do you need to repeat false ones?
 Quoting: Menow 41300759


What she said was that a dog was a good meal, and the story spun up that way.
 Quoting: 74444


Yes. She was saying that it was a good idea to put pets down before the pole shift because other people would just kill and eat them. Truth is, if her poleshift was a reality, it might have been a reasonable idea.

If you consider euthanizing pets to be "murder", you should be picketing humane societies all over the county.
 Quoting: Menow 41300759

Did you drink? She told her followers to murder their pets.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


No, she suggested to have pets put down by a vet.

And then she told them that a dog is a good meal.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Yes, for OTHER PEOPLE who might kill and eat them.

Besides that she also told them in 2003 the poleshift is near.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Yes.

They shouldn`t pay their bills anymore and a dog is a good meal.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Nancy didn't make that association.

Did you see her crazy clip where she was talking about puppy lake.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


Yes.

How can you defend such an old fucking bitch?
 Quoting: VeritasN1


I'm defending the facts, not the person.


And she really ate them.
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Say what??

So her followers ate them, too (in 2003).
 Quoting: VeritasN1


WTF are you talking about? Take a deep breath. I don't remember anybody actually taking Nancy's advice to put their pets down. I absolutely don't think anybody ate their pets.

And what now?
She is an old liar and fraudster but it is difficult to keep her last bigots in line. Even Niels N. understood that crazy Nanny made a fool out of him.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


And? What does that have to do with the above?

Of course old blockheads like Alberto and Pixel-Poli will never understand this. They live in their own world.

Nancy got old and very wacky. I wonder which excuse she will offer her last tards for her announcement failure.
It wont be serious but very funny.
 Quoting: VeritasN1



OK, but that has nothing to do with the subject of my post.
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What she said was that a dog was a good meal, and the story spun up that way.
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Yes. She was saying that it was a good idea to put pets down before the pole shift because other people would just kill and eat them. Truth is, if her poleshift was a reality, it might have been a reasonable idea.

If you consider euthanizing pets to be "murder", you should be picketing humane societies all over the county.
 Quoting: Menow 41300759

Did you drink? She told her followers to murder their pets. And then she told them that a dog is a good meal.

Besides that she also told them in 2003 the poleshift is near. They shouldn`t pay their bills anymore and a dog is a good meal.

Did you see her crazy clip where she was talking about puppy lake. How can you defend such an old fucking bitch?
And she really ate them.

So her followers ate them, too (in 2003). And what now?
She is an old liar and fraudster but it is difficult to keep her last bigots in line. Even Niels N. understood that crazy Nanny made a fool out of him.

Of course old blockheads like Alberto and Pixel-Poli will never understand this. They live in their own world.

Nancy got old and very wacky. I wonder which excuse she will offer her last tards for her announcement failure.
It wont be serious but very funny.
 Quoting: VeritasN1


I can understand Menow's position absolutely and agree.
Lets get the facts (quotes) straight and avoid further interpretation because that way we will only make ourselves less credible.

In my opinion it has nothing to do with defending Nancy, but is merely an appeal to avoid putting words into someone's mouth (as rotten as it may be).

BTW: I don't think Nancy really put down her dog but felt pressed to make such a statement because the interviewer was picking on her credibility on that matter.
It sounded like a knee-jerk response to me, but thats my opinion about it.

Either way, her response turned out to be very counter-productive and has since then be used as a strong argument against her, for right and good reasons.

Regarding Menow's statement that it would have been a reasonable idea considering the poleshift being a reality I disagree though.
In my mind there would still have been enough opportunities to wait with putting down a puppy as afterall a poleshift wouldn't happen out of the blue...

My .02, as someone said earlier.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


I believe Nancy really did have her German Sheppard put down. She said it had some sort of severe socialization problems.

After a supposed pole shift there would probably not be any vets available to "humanely" euthanize animals.
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The thing is - she was telling people to euthanize/kill their pets to spare them from events that weren't going to happen. And she never mentioned the being feral when she was on the radio program - she didn't bring that tidbit up until after the show and started receiving criticism for it. And it is not in dispute that she said, "You know, a dog make a good meal." I don't believe she's telling people to kill their pets to eat them. However, it can be taken in that context.
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This woman is certifiable, IMHO. See this clip from Russian television show. Notice how the Russian interpreter embellishes, a lot.



She admits putting down an 18 month old puppy. "Dogs make a good meal." "I never said do it now, do it before the pole shift."



Bad, bad, bad girl.
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Bad, bad, bad girl.
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No doubt about that.
Alone for the fact that she KNEW nothing was going to happen and did it anyway - just for credibility of her hoax.

The same accounts for the present.
Nancy is aware about every lie she spreads, regardless of the influence they have on others peoples life.

She has no problem to having occupied some peoples life since 1995!
She is a slave-master and tried to raise her "skills" to perfection.

I wonder if she sometimes believes that she is able to feel something as "empathy"... and if so, Im sure it would be a psychopatic, distorted version of it.

Im glad if she rotts away. (Im not having much sympathy with parasites) - At least people won't have to deal with her crapola anymore.
(I doubt she will find a follower.. because she'd have to find a manipulative type who is aware of the fact that it is all made up.. and this usally does not account for Ningsters = minions )


BTW: On a sidenote, Im glad that we disagree sometimes.
Goes to show that we've legit opinions and standpoints.

Where is their cover-up now?
It appears all the shill-accustations etc have come to cease.
And before I forget it:
globalwarming

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Bad, bad, bad girl.
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No doubt about that.
Alone for the fact that she KNEW nothing was going to happen and did it anyway - just for credibility of her hoax.

The same accounts for the present.
Nancy is aware about every lie she spreads, regardless of the influence they have on others peoples life.

She has no problem to having occupied some peoples life since 1995!
She is a slave-master and tried to raise her "skills" to perfection.

I wonder if she sometimes believes that she is able to feel something as "empathy"... and if so, Im sure it would be a psychopatic, distorted version of it.

Im glad if she rotts away. (Im not having much sympathy with parasites) - At least people won't have to deal with her crapola anymore.
(I doubt she will find a follower.. because she'd have to find a manipulative type who is aware of the fact that it is all made up.. and this usally does not account for Ningsters = minions )


BTW: On a sidenote, Im glad that we disagree sometimes.
Goes to show that we've legit opinions and standpoints.

Where is their cover-up now?
It appears all the shill-accustations etc have come to cease.
And before I forget it:
globalwarming
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


No global warming....global cooling as expected. Get your woollies on :))

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No global warming....global cooling as expected. Get your woollies on :))

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wow! Thanks, that is most interesting...

Guess we'll have to wait another while to better understand what to expect.
"Professor Curry said the ice’s behaviour over the next five years would be crucial, both for understanding the climate and for future policy. ‘Arctic sea ice is the indicator to watch,’ she said."

One thing is for certain though: The weather is messed up

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This woman is certifiable, IMHO. See this clip from Russian television show. Notice how the Russian interpreter embellishes, a lot.



She admits putting down an 18 month old puppy. "Dogs make a good meal." "I never said do it now, do it before the pole shift."



Bad, bad, bad girl.
 Quoting: Little Baby Jesus


The interpreter seems to be familiar with Nancy's story beyond what she actually says here and is adding those details on his own.
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Bad, bad, bad girl.
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No doubt about that.
Alone for the fact that she KNEW nothing was going to happen and did it anyway - just for credibility of her hoax.

The same accounts for the present.
Nancy is aware about every lie she spreads, regardless of the influence they have on others peoples life.

She has no problem to having occupied some peoples life since 1995!
She is a slave-master and tried to raise her "skills" to perfection.

I wonder if she sometimes believes that she is able to feel something as "empathy"... and if so, Im sure it would be a psychopatic, distorted version of it.

Im glad if she rotts away. (Im not having much sympathy with parasites) - At least people won't have to deal with her crapola anymore.
(I doubt she will find a follower.. because she'd have to find a manipulative type who is aware of the fact that it is all made up.. and this usally does not account for Ningsters = minions )


BTW: On a sidenote, Im glad that we disagree sometimes.
Goes to show that we've legit opinions and standpoints.

Where is their cover-up now?
It appears all the shill-accustations etc have come to cease.
And before I forget it:
:globalwarming:
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I'd be interested to hear how you concluded that Nancy consciously knows she is lying. I have always though that she believes what she says, regardless of how impossible that might seem.
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Bad, bad, bad girl.
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No doubt about that.
Alone for the fact that she KNEW nothing was going to happen and did it anyway - just for credibility of her hoax.

The same accounts for the present.
Nancy is aware about every lie she spreads, regardless of the influence they have on others peoples life.

She has no problem to having occupied some peoples life since 1995!
She is a slave-master and tried to raise her "skills" to perfection.

I wonder if she sometimes believes that she is able to feel something as "empathy"... and if so, Im sure it would be a psychopatic, distorted version of it.

Im glad if she rotts away. (Im not having much sympathy with parasites) - At least people won't have to deal with her crapola anymore.
(I doubt she will find a follower.. because she'd have to find a manipulative type who is aware of the fact that it is all made up.. and this usally does not account for Ningsters = minions )


BTW: On a sidenote, Im glad that we disagree sometimes.
Goes to show that we've legit opinions and standpoints.

Where is their cover-up now?
It appears all the shill-accustations etc have come to cease.
And before I forget it:
globalwarming
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


I'd be interested to hear how you concluded that Nancy consciously knows she is lying. I have always though that she believes what she says, regardless of how impossible that might seem.
 Quoting: Menow 2913051


Maybe she does. But that doesn't change the 'affect' of her communicated belief on others. Does her belief comport with reality is the salient question, IMHO.
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I'd be interested to hear how you concluded that Nancy consciously knows she is lying. I have always though that she believes what she says, regardless of how impossible that might seem.
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From my experiences as a Moderator.

Namely when she started to delete discussions on the admin-ning where I and others concluded ZetaTalk was wrong, clearly to avoid the others of reading this info.

Or on another occasion (the Maria-story, detailed in my doc), she was actively trying to discredit my person and turn me into a perpetrator to suggest the others that I was "bad" just for questioning her claims, aside from the fact that I proved that Maria was not a blackOps by a live-video, yet Nancy tried to suggest her other Moderators that Maria was still an "actor" in very bizzare ways. (She even provided bits of it in the "disgruntled Moderator" posting, claiming Marias teeth are different, yet it shows a one-to-one match, clearly showing it was indeed Maria and not a BlackOps despite Nancy's claims.)

Or generally when you question her, she will get angry quite quickly and try to discredit you and let you look foolish, naive etc. (logical fallacies).

Or the way how she discredited Moderators who became "uneasy" and quickly declared them as "BlackOps" to get rid of them.

Now I'd be interested how in your opinion someone who considers himself "service-to-other" and believing it would react in such ways which are extremly typical for people who are confronted with their lies and unwilling to admit them?

I can understand if this is not convincing to outsiders, but if you ask people who have directly worked with her it appears to be the general consensus of which I fully agree.

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I'd be interested to hear how you concluded that Nancy consciously knows she is lying. I have always though that she believes what she says, regardless of how impossible that might seem.
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From my experiences as a Moderator.

Namely when she started to delete discussions on the admin-ning where I and others concluded ZetaTalk was wrong, clearly to avoid the others of reading this info.

Or on another occasion (the Maria-story, detailed in my doc), she was actively trying to discredit my person and turn me into a perpetrator to suggest the others that I was "bad" just for questioning her claims, aside from the fact that I proved that Maria was not a blackOps by a live-video, yet Nancy tried to suggest her other Moderators that Maria was still an "actor" in very bizzare ways. (She even provided bits of it in the "disgruntled Moderator" posting, claiming Marias teeth are different, yet it shows a one-to-one match, clearly showing it was indeed Maria and not a BlackOps despite Nancy's claims.)

Or generally when you question her, she will get angry quite quickly and try to discredit you and let you look foolish, naive etc. (logical fallacies).

Or the way how she discredited Moderators who became "uneasy" and quickly declared them as "BlackOps" to get rid of them.

Now I'd be interested how in your opinion someone who considers himself "service-to-other" and believing it would react in such ways which are extremly typical for people who are confronted with their lies and unwilling to admit them?

I can understand if this is not convincing to outsiders, but if you ask people who have directly worked with her it appears to be the general consensus of which I fully agree.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


You're asking questions about how a rational person would act. Nancy is not rational in any way most of us can understand. I think all of the above could be done by a person who believes they are just preserving the message and the "truth".

I have seen Nancy do underhanded and obfuscatory things for a long time now. She has said many, many, many things which one would think she can't possibly believe are true. It is still in that light that I think she believes everything she says. It's along the lines of someone who has the mentality where they can "Lie so good they think it's true". Some people have an almost unlimited ability for self-deception.
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Some people have an almost unlimited ability for self-deception.
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Shockingly, IDW/A.A comes to mind.
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You're asking questions about how a rational person would act.
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No, I describe occurences of how a person reacted in rational ways to avoid exposure.

If she were believing her crap, wouldn't she be suprised/baffled/stunned herself when she sees her statements being wrong black on white?

Wouldn't she respect a critical attitude at all or at least treat it in another manner since it was absolutely sincere and essential for an appropiate view?

I know this could be all swept under the table as "obsessive conviction to the belief", but again THE WAY she handled these occurences prove a clear aimed-, rational approach to obfuscate the fact that she is lying.


I think the fact that you mentioned that you have had experiences with other people on that manner (channeling etc) is preventing you from looking at Nancy in an objective manner.

You do think Nancy believes Earth is halted and Flareberto's images being real? Really?

Don't you see the manipulative ways she uses like avoiding anything certain, or only jumping on those cases where speculation is possible?

How about the occurences were people layed traps for her, yet she plays as she was never wrong?

Menow, by all respect, Nancy in NO WAY appears like a mindless slave of her belief.
It has clear manipulative, rational structures in my opinion..

BTW: Maybe you want to elaborate on those other experiences you had?
That way we can look for differences and similarities which might help us looking at it from different perspectives.

I could be wrong, but given she reacted in such typical ways (for liars) don't leave much possibilities of attributing that to conviction of a certain belief whatsoever.

Nancy wasn't just blocking exposure (which could be attributed to someone really believing into it),
she was actively trying to switch the roles by all means possible! (a selfish-, manipulative act of desperation)

Some people have an almost unlimited ability for self-deception.
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True! This can accounts for all of us, denial that is.

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You're asking questions about how a rational person would act.
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No, I describe occurences of how a person reacted in rational ways to avoid exposure.

If she were believing her crap, wouldn't she be suprised/baffled/stunned herself when she sees her statements being wrong black on white?
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 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


I get what you're saying. It's nothing new for Nancy. I guess it's always been a hard call- whether she is a pathological liar or a fanatical believer in her own story. BOTH defy all sensibility.

Like I said, for years Nancy has said all sorts of things that she can't possibly believe are true. I just think it's likely that she couldn't go on with such obvious falsehoods unless she finds a way to believe them. I know it doesn't make "sense", but neither does being able to knowingly lie over and over and over and over and over again.


Wouldn't she respect a critical attitude at all or at least treat it in another manner since it was absolutely sincere and essential for an appropiate view?
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Wouldn't she, as in what would any rational person do? I don't know that that applies. Did/does she? No.

I know this could be all swept under the table as "obsessive conviction to the belief", but again THE WAY she handled these occurences prove a clear aimed-, rational approach to obfuscate the fact that she is lying.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Seen it for years. Nancy creates complex graphics and explanations in support of her story- whatever it takes. I think a person can't do all of that if they don't believe any of it.

I think the fact that you mentioned that you have had experiences with other people on that manner (channeling etc) is preventing you from looking at Nancy in an objective manner.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Why? I was just going to mention that. It is exactly WHY I have the opinion I have. I have seen the "always right" thing happen with channels before. They can contort their own personal view until things can seem "right" to them.

It goes beyond 'channeling' with Nancy. I have always though that Nancy is 'possessed' by whatever "Zetas" is. The results of that is how Nancy can do what she does.

You do think Nancy believes Earth is halted and Flareberto's images being real? Really?
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


I think she has the ability to ignore any 'problems' in her story. Always has.

Don't you see the manipulative ways she uses like avoiding anything certain, or only jumping on those cases where speculation is possible?
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Yes.

How about the occurences were people layed traps for her, yet she plays as she was never wrong?
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


What about it? See above. You are saying that no normal, rational person could do what Nancy has done. That applies either way- no matter if Nancy believes what she says or not.

Menow, by all respect, Nancy in NO WAY appears like a mindless slave of her belief.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


"Mindless"? No, "mindless" is not the right description. There are way of applying the 'mind' which defy all logic.

It has clear manipulative, rational structures in my opinion..
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Have you ever met, or even heard of anyone else who could intentionally, consciously, lie constantly for over a decade?

BTW: Maybe you want to elaborate on those other experiences you had?
That way we can look for differences and similarities which might help us looking at it from different perspectives.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


See above.

I could be wrong, but given she reacted in such typical ways (for liars) don't leave much possibilities of attributing that to conviction of a certain belief whatsoever.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


There is nothing "typical" about Nancy's behavior. Think about it.

Nancy wasn't just blocking exposure (which could be attributed to someone really believing into it),
she was actively trying to switch the roles by all means possible! (a selfish-, manipulative act of desperation)
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Think about what Nancy has to loose if she is wrong- in her OWN mind. Desperation would be a good description of what she feels about that.

Some people have an almost unlimited ability for self-deception.
 Quoting: Menow 2913051


True! This can accounts for all of us, denial that is.
 Quoting: MoreAboutTunnelVision


Which is why I can believe that Nancy has a severe case of that, fueled by internal manipulation by way of possession. People can and DO become possessed when entertaining other entities to the extent Nancy has done.

As always, thanks for your contribution.

Cheers.
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As always, thanks for your contribution.

Cheers.
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Likewise!
Thank you for the elaborations and different perspective on the matter.
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