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Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!

 
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Just what I would expect from the Luser. For all your barking, your latest post only shows how closed minded you are. I am not claiming to be any better than anyone else. My comments are only in the spirit of getting people to think outside the limited and misguided box that Nancy wants to put you into. I wish for all my fellow humans true development to our fullest potential. Why is that so unfuckingbelievable? I am not attacking anyone, and all you can do is attack. Is that because you can't discuss in a civil manner? It shows that you think you have found truth already and feel threatened when someone presents another point of view. You can take my comments or leave them, but unless you have any proof that challenges the substance of anything I have said, something that doesn't come from the cesspool that is ZetaTalk, there is no point addressing you. I doubt you will, because civil debate is not your strong suit.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal





You talk like you know the "truth" about many things ... and others are wrong in their interpretatiions. That's real blow-hard shit!

Your opinion is only YOUR opinion ... get that willya?
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Melfy, Luser, Gerard et al are so INCREDIBLY gullible that they persist in believing SIX YEARS AFTER the cult has proven itself wrong!!!!

That must be some kind of record for determined credulity!

:5:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776700


I would also add Free Store..aka Mr FrEaKy....to that list, given that the Old Timer gave up the love and companionship of his family to become a blind disciple of the zetacult, and to this day still believes wholeheartedly that Ms LIEDer converses with intelligent ETs lol4me that declare themselves to be 100% correct in everything SOZT...EOZT!!

As far as a record goes I totally agree with you. And when it comes to these posters believing in the crap that Ms LIEDer writes one has to bring to mind that old saying....."Dumb as a post!!
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You talk like you know the "truth" about many things ... and others are wrong in their interpretatiions. That's real blow-hard shit!
 Quoting: User # 78/68


Wow!!

You sound like you are talking about your beloved LIEDer.
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Unbefuckinlievable!

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Now there's a term that describes Nancy's billshit six years on.....exactly.
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Unbefuckinlievable!
Why do all of the debunkers sound like they are the definitive interpretters of all things and discoveries. What a load of hogwash!

Talk about SELF-importance. They give themselves away, time and time again.

Stick to observing yourself KeepingItReal, you've missed some stuff!
 Quoting: User # 78/68



Truth is, it's hard NOT to be superior around the likes of Nancy believers. It requires almost no effort at all.
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You talk like you know the "truth" about many things ... and others are wrong in their interpretatiions. That's real blow-hard shit!

Your opinion is only YOUR opinion ... get that willya?
 Quoting: User # 78/68


No, I share the truth I have found. Maybe it is my truth only, but that is for everyone to determine for themselves. I am not looking to start a cult or recruit people to my way of seeing things. I only share to stimulate the search in others.

I did not say that others are wrong and I am right. Your reading comprehension isn't very acute. I can say with confidence that Nancy is wrong, not because of personal belief, but because everything points to that.

Unlike you, I need corroboration before I accept anything. It is the prudent and wise way of learning. Science debunks Nancy every time. My own cultural heritage says she is wrong about the origins and the development of spirit in man, my own experience also proves she is full of shit and hasn't the foggiest notion about what she claims. Common sense and observation tells me that the sun, the earth, the moon and the stars are exactly where they should be, and that if a pole shift of the magnitude she proposes did occur, against all probability, nothing would survive. On that note, why would anyone want to survive? There are worse things than death. She is wrong about everything. I have never seen a correct prediction or explanation that I couldn't find on the internet that was previously written by someone else.

My experience is not opinion. It is just the reason why I see things a certain way. No more or less valid than anything else that is real. To me it is real, and it has served me in situations of life and death, my own and that of others. Go ahead and follow Nancy. As I said, you can consider my comments or leave them.
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The above was me not logged in.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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Geez I thought you didn't care about the outcome of Zetatalk being right or wrong on the appearance of Planet X, Melfy?......

......
9/21/2009
Like I've said REPEATEDLY, ZetaTalk "leaves a lot to be desired", but it is far from "worthless". I've gotten a lot of VALUE out of reading it, regardless of how the whole "Planet X" thing works out in the end.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Now even though you have endeavoured to leave yourself an out, Melfster, if nothing happens by 2012.....
.......
8/16/2007
So if she's lying, her lies consist of 9/10ths TRUTH.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


And:

8/16/2007
You have my word - if nothing happens between now and then, I will go over to "The Dark Side of the Force." Zetas have repeatedly and unequivocally stated that the passage will occur before 2012. That would be TOO BIG a white lie to overcome a second time - making it a BLACK lie. I buy the first white lie as necessary and expedient, because I find the need to discombobulate the forces behind the Bush and Blair (and of course I know he's gone - as is Rove) adminstrations to be persuasive and compelling. But that arguement flys only ONCE. There is no way for her to recover from another timing failure post 2012. Simply NO WAY. So there - mark it on your calender, and get back to me January 1, 2012.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Yet on the same thread you claim that Nasa knows where it is and that it is definitely visible?
Here are two quotes from you on the same thread.....

8/16/2007
It is visible - under optimum conditions that are difficult if not impossible to predict ahead of time. More like PX finding you than you finding it. Kind of like looking for a shooting star - you never know when one it is going to suddenly "put on a show". Of course this is the case TODAY - down the road it will become clearly visible - and beyond dispute.

By 2012 it WILL be a mute point - so what's YOUR BEEF???
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


And:

8/16/2007
NASA knows where PX is - it is where it will go, and more importantly WHEN that they DON'T know. For that, ZetaTalk is indeed their only source of information.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


So back in 2007 you CLAIMED
, Melfy, that this rogue PLANET X was indeed definitely visible and that Zetatalk was Nasa's only source of information on the whereabouts of Planet X when they themselves were unsure?

Jekel_Hyde

Another quote from the same thread:

8/16/2007
THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO NANCY! --AND-- FOR YOUR GRACIOUS ASSISTANCE ON THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


YEP!! Melfy.....Zetatalk's greatest promoter and No 1 GLP Fence Shitter of all time.

Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 09/22/2009 01:20 AM
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Geez I thought you didn't care about the outcome of Zetatalk being right or wrong on the appearance of Planet X, Melfy?......

...... 9/21/2009
Like I've said REPEATEDLY, ZetaTalk "leaves a lot to be desired", but it is far from "worthless". I've gotten a lot of VALUE out of reading it, regardless of how the whole "Planet X" thing works out in the end.


Now even though you have endeavoured to leave yourself an out, Melfster, if nothing happens by 2012.....
.......
8/16/2007
So if she's lying, her lies consist of 9/10ths TRUTH.


And:

8/16/2007
You have my word - if nothing happens between now and then, I will go over to "The Dark Side of the Force." Zetas have repeatedly and unequivocally stated that the passage will occur before 2012. That would be TOO BIG a white lie to overcome a second time - making it a BLACK lie. I buy the first white lie as necessary and expedient, because I find the need to discombobulate the forces behind the Bush and Blair (and of course I know he's gone - as is Rove) adminstrations to be persuasive and compelling. But that arguement flys only ONCE. There is no way for her to recover from another timing failure post 2012. Simply NO WAY. So there - mark it on your calender, and get back to me January 1, 2012.


Yet on the same thread you claim that Nasa knows where it is and that it is definitely visible?
Here are two quotes from you on the same thread.....

8/16/2007
It is visible - under optimum conditions that are difficult if not impossible to predict ahead of time. More like PX finding you than you finding it. Kind of like looking for a shooting star - you never know when one it is going to suddenly "put on a show". Of course this is the case TODAY - down the road it will become clearly visible - and beyond dispute.

By 2012 it WILL be a mute point - so what's YOUR BEEF???


And:

8/16/2007
NASA knows where PX is - it is where it will go, and more importantly WHEN that they DON'T know. For that, ZetaTalk is indeed their only source of information.


So back in 2007 you CLAIMED
, Melfy, that this rogue PLANET X was indeed definitely visible and that Zetatalk was Nasa's only source of information on the whereabouts of Planet X when they themselves were unsure?

:Jekel_Hyde:

Other quotes from the same thread:

8/16/2007
THANKS FOR ALL YOU DO NANCY! --AND-- FOR YOUR GRACIOUS ASSISTANCE ON THIS PARTICULAR QUESTION!


YEP!! Melfy.....Zetatalk's greatest promoter and No 1 GLP Fence Shitter of all time.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Those are some classic quotes! Glad to see they are carefully preserved for the 'Day of Reckoning'!

This one in particular:
"So if she's lying, her lies consist of 9/10ths TRUTH."
wtf

A lie that consists of 90% truth? Hmmmm....only NancyTalk could come up with such a thing!
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8/4/2007
TRUE ENOUGH! *I* am OF COURSE ***NOT*** Nancy! And the very notion that "I" admitted anything is ABSURD!!! The coordinates for incoming PX as listened on ZetaTalk are not a lie - but EXPIRED. Anyone can see the truth in that! (Even the debunkers, though they feign otherwise!)
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


So, Melfy, do you believe that Zetatalk's rogue Planet X was imaged, way back then, at the coordinates given by Ms LIEDer on Zetatalk?

PS: Well we all know about Ms LIEDer confusions over Sky coordinates.

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Those are some classic quotes! Glad to see they are carefully preserved for the 'Day of Reckoning'!

This one in particular:
"So if she's lying, her lies consist of 9/10ths TRUTH."
wtf

A lie that consists of 90% truth? Hmmmm....only NancyTalk could come up with such a thing!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776700


I know. It's amazingly laughable how in one breath, Nancy and the likes of ZetaMax have declared the appearance of the Zetatalk Planet X, then in the next breath spew such nonsense as to create an out excuse for what eventually turns out to be a Failure of their claims.

"So if she's lying, her lies consist of 9/10ths TRUTH." I would find such assertions from ZetaMax alot more laughable if it wasn't so pathetically nonsensical.

I like to summarize the logic of these bunker believers as such...... No_Logic
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It is only SAID to be "up to you". There is a clear system of judgement of and retribution against those who do not believe.

yeah!? what could she supposedly do to those "who dont believe"?!


NANCY/"Zetas" say what is "reasonable", hmm? THEY say that there is a MASSIVE government conspiracy to silence the message of Zetatalk. That is the very definition of a cult, you dolt! It uses the fear of persecution to solidify it's power over it's members. Get a CLUE!

how can you be so sure there is no such conspiracy? world history is a list of conspiracies, it is made of them

one can think whatever, but as for those former followers - it is their own choice and they are free to do what they will.
Of course it is, but that is DISAPPROVED OF by the group and its leader(s). Duh?


and so what? why should one care what is approved or disapproved by the group/leader?

Semantics. Anyone who questioned Nancy/"Zetas" veracity on TT-watch was summmerily attacked and branded as a "disrupter".

not without basis, im sure

9. The group/leader is always right.

many among the fans doubt or disagree with many aspects of the message.

But they are extremely reticent to SAY so. That has been utterly obvious for all these years. Those who say: "But Nancy... I don't see PX in the sky" are attacked for "not looking hard enough".


i say so. why should i challenge Nancy. i cherish what she does and says and disagreement about something doesnt mean i should fight her to death.

I doubt that Andrew will respond to my points. He can't really do so without exposing just how cult-minded he really is.

haha.
what, in truth, is cult-minded? i'll tell you - those who take academic science, the whole immense architecture of canonic approved scientific beliefs, without critical thinking - that's cult-mind.
 Quoting: andrew

in spite of all your ranting.... you will need a very good excuse for your position in a few days.... i will be here and eager to hear it.

Nearly one year has gone by since i started the timecount, and i can positively state that nothing significantly has chnaged diring this year against any stattistcal data of the past.

The time count is:

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Please add "Socky" to the list of denigrating names I would like you and everyone else to stop calling me.

 Quoting: Zetamax


So, make a pick of the whole list - which d you like most ?



General:
The Culties
The Stupids
zetadrool
zetadrollers
Zetards
Zetasquish
Zetatards
Zidiots

Specific:
Agent Max
Bullshitter
DRIPster
DRIPsterTroll
Fence Shitter
Nanny
NannyTroll
Minimax
Maxi
MaxiTroll
Maxinanny
Maxipads
Melf
Melfster
MelfsterTroll
Melfy
Melfytroll
Nannymax
Nellemax
Nelliemax
ShitTalker
Sockster
SocksterTroll
Socky
SockyTroll
Zetamin
ZetaTroll
Zetaquark


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The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
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whats a zeta ?


The letter in the Greek alphabet after epsilon and before the
letter eta.
 Quoting: DrPostman


So already the greeks knew Zeta.... PROVED!


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The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
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regardless of how the whole "Planet X" thing works out in the end.


:lol4me: Melfy you idiot where have you been for the last six years....?

:excited: We survived the POLE SHIFT of 2003!!

:awesome: eh Melfy!!


Melfy, Luser, Gerard et al are so INCREDIBLY gullible that they persist in believing SIX YEARS AFTER the cult has proven itself wrong!!!!

That must be some kind of record for determined credulity!

:5:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 776700

perhaps we just have to wait a little, some people might need some time to make their mind up.
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Please add "Socky" to the list of denigrating names I would like you and everyone else to stop calling me.



So, make a pick of the whole list - which d you like most ?



General:
The Culties
The Stupids
zetadrool
zetadrollers
Zetards
Zetasquish
Zetatards
Zidiots

Specific:
Agent Max
Bullshitter
DRIPster
DRIPsterTroll
Fence Shitter
Nanny
NannyTroll
Minimax
Maxi
MaxiTroll
Maxinanny
Maxipads
Melf
Melfster
MelfsterTroll
Melfy
Melfytroll
Nannymax
Nellemax
Nelliemax
ShitTalker
Sockster
SocksterTroll
Socky
SockyTroll
Zetamin
ZetaTroll
Zetaquark


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The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230


Big_smile I think Melfy is going to be having yet another unstable over this posting!!

awesome
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Thank you.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


You're welcome!!

Top500
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lol4me Oops I hit that shitty zeta chit thread by mistake!!




Ohhh Boyyy!!!

The not-so-bright Lone Stranger just had to pop in a drop a shit. How stupid is this guy????

Hmmmmm ...
 Quoting: User # 78/68


I see that you are PROJECTING again, Luserboy......
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11/8/07
Circuit Breaker must have had a new asshole ripped for him by his bosses! Look at all the posts he's spammed this thread with in the last two hours!!
 Quoting: Sock Puppet


Once again Melfy I display examples of your hypocrisy that you previously challenged Loneranger to give evidence of. Your claims of innocence and receiving unfair treatment by others is totally hypocritical bunkerboy!!
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11/10/07
When have I lied?
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


11/10/07
You're simply going to remain a paid shill - so asking YOU the same question would be pointless.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


So you called CB a Paid Shill. Where is your bonafide evidence for this, Melfy?

Do you retract your accusation?

If you do not then you have simply lied about another poster.
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Please add "Socky" to the list of denigrating names I would like you and everyone else to stop calling me.



So, make a pick of the whole list - which d you like most ?



General:
The Culties
The Stupids
zetadrool
zetadrollers
Zetards
Zetasquish
Zetatards
Zidiots

Specific:
Agent Max
Bullshitter
DRIPster
DRIPsterTroll
Fence Shitter
Nanny
NannyTroll
Minimax
Maxi
MaxiTroll
Maxinanny
Maxipads
Melf
Melfster
MelfsterTroll
Melfy
Melfytroll
Nannymax
Nellemax
Nelliemax
ShitTalker
Sockster
SocksterTroll
Socky
SockyTroll
Zetamin
ZetaTroll
Zetaquark


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The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230

I don't see Menow's favorite - "Maxiemelf"
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I don't see Menow's favorite - "Maxiemelf"
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Big_smile That's a good one. I'm sure 17230 will add that to the growing list as soon as they see your post.
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I don't see Menow's favorite - "Maxiemelf"


Big_smile That's a good one. I'm sure 17230 will add that to the growing list as soon as they see your post.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger

Can we just "STOP" with all the foolishness???

please ...
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Can we just "STOP" with all the foolishness???

please ...
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


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I don't see Menow's favorite - "Maxiemelf"


Big_smile That's a good one. I'm sure 17230 will add that to the growing list as soon as they see your post.

Can we just "STOP" with all the foolishness???

please ...
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Laff Laff Laff

Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 09/22/2009 06:52 AM
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09/22/2009 07:03 AM
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>> There is no such thing as light and dark energy. There is only energy.

Eyes roll, jaw drops in an exaggerated "give me a break" stare.

Yea, sure, of course ...

And of course you "really" knew what I was driving at when you followed up with this:

>> I was talking about intent

So that we are both on the same page, how about "dark intent??" - such that dark is defined by "selfish" where a being is focused only with the benefit of the "self", without a shred of "concern" for the costs that will be born by others in its pursuit of that "intent".

>> which is a hard concept to grasp, because our definition falls very short of describing it. Intent cannot be taught, it must be experienced and claimed as an attribute.

Indeed, "intent" is not dealt with very well in MOST of the literature I have read - and that list is EXTENSIVE. Funny how the STS/STO material DOES describe "intent" - and more extensively than I have encountered elsewhere. Now to be "fair", I am aware that the concept was "borrowed" from elsewhere - principally Gurdjieff, the Ra material and the Cassiopeia material. I first read of it in the Cassiopeia material, and have not reviewed any of Gurdjieff's works directly (so much to do, so little time). Nevertheless, I **LIKE** Nancy's contributions to the topic A LOT - no matter how she came across the topic, or who it might have been borrowed from.

Like I've said REPEATEDLY, ZetaTalk "leaves a lot to be desired", but it is far from "worthless". I've gotten a lot of VALUE out of reading it, regardless of how the whole "Planet X" thing works out in the end.

It is obvious you don't understand what I mean by intent. You are talking in petty human terms, of why a person does something and what their intention is. That is not at all what I am talking about. The universe couldn't give a crap what our intentions are. Intent is something much more subtle and powerful. It is one of the components that are used by sorcerers and healers and others trained in other professions and is used sparingly and with discretion.

Intent is not a human characteristic, though we are all capable of developing it. Intent is part of spirit and energy. You could say that our very existence has been intended by power.

I doubt you will understand this clarification, but I thought I would throw it out there. As often happens in my interchanges with you, we are talking about different things. You are sure you are right. I know that what I am talking about is real, not because some demented old lady told me, or because I read a book or two, but because I learned things about energy and spirit at considerable peril, and I use them when circumstances require it. Intent is the word in english, translated from Spanish "intento" which is a translation from the terms used in indigenous languages in Mexico. There is no such thing as "dark intent". To say that shows that you don't understand the concept. To call it intent is to use a familiar word to describe or define something that vaguely resembles a familiar human concept, only so that it can be referred to in conversation. The word we name it is irrelevant.

As with most truth, the meaning and impact of intent cannot be communicated through words. I can tell you things, but I can't make you understand. The only way to understand it so have the revelation yourself and work through it.

My observation with you, Max, as with many of Nancy's followers is not that you don't know the things that I know, but rather that by your attitude of clinging to something as primitive as what Nancy has to offer, you are unlikely to ever make any significant discoveries about spirit and energy, and where you fit into the scheme of things. You are unlikely to realize the potential that lies within you, or within anyone else. That is the sad truth.
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>> Intent is something much more subtle and powerful. It is one of the components that are used by sorcerers and healers and others trained in other professions and is used sparingly and with discretion.

So - it's the "use of power inherent in spirit" to achieve some end. Classic "voodoo" is kind of a cliche example, but there are certainly reality underpinnings to it. The Hindus call it "sidis" (I'm going on memory) - "magical powers"; and of course there's really nothing "magical" about them per se - which is why many esoterics refer to it as "the 'science' of spirit", etc. It's neutral, can be used to create and heal, or destroy and sicken. "Used sparingly and with discretion" - well, as they say, to whom much is given, much is required. With great power comes great "responsibility". The story of Milarepa is instructive on this. A great sorcerer, who in his youth used his power to kill an enemy - and then has a "revelation" that he had essentially "shot himself in the foot" and condemned himself to damnation. This he suddenly feared more than any other "adversary" - and set out to achieve "enlightenment in one lifetime" as it was the only way to defeat the "karma" he had brought on himself. He sought a "master" whom he figured could help him, and was quite distraught when this "master" wouldn't give him "the time of day" - so to speak. This master then set out to test the determination and humility of Milarepa and had him build and then tear down numerous stone houses until Milarepa was so broken emotionally that he nearly took his own life. At that point the master intervened before all was lost and set about instructing Milarepa - who then spent the rest of his life essentially in self-imposed solitary confinement meditating non-stop for years, often eating only nettles. Towards the end, a young disciple asked what he was doing, and he replied that he was transforming negative karma (and not just his own pesonal karma) as a form of "making amends". He gave a demonstation by allowing a "fraction" of the energy he was mutating to enter some object and the object essentially disintegrated instantly. Supposedly his "suffering" was beyond measure - but such was his determination to overcome the cumulative effects of lifetimes of negative actions.

The lesson is, POWER is not the "point" - but rather how it is USED.

There is a story of the Buddha who approaches a river and encounters a hindu ascetic who practicing a form of yoga had acquired the power to walk on water - and demonstrated this power to the Buddha by walking across the river and back. The Buddha exclaimed, "you poor miserable soul, do you not know that for a single coin you can hire a boatman to take you across??"

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 09/22/2009 07:19 AM
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Unbefuckinlievable!
Why do all of the debunkers sound like they are the definitive interpretters of all things and discoveries. What a load of hogwash!

Talk about SELF-importance. They give themselves away, time and time again.

Stick to observing yourself KeepingItReal, you've missed some stuff!
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Why do YOU sound like Nancy is the definitive interpreter of all things and discoveries?

As for self-importance...you're one of the most arrogant posters here! You give yourself away time and time again.

You might just want to take your own advise. Max and KIR were having an actual civil discussion until you had to stick your nose into it.

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You talk like you know the "truth" about many things ... and others are wrong in their interpretatiions.
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Doesn't Nancy do the same thing? She's balked at every explanation or claim made by others...even ZetaMax when he stated the "Zetas" could be implanting screened memories. Funny how you don't criticize her.

That's real blow-hard shit!
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And you're just a big blow-hard.

Your opinion is only YOUR opinion ... get that willya?
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He never said otherwise. But just remember that this also applies to you as well.
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I don't see Menow's favorite - "Maxiemelf"


Big_smile That's a good one. I'm sure 17230 will add that to the growing list as soon as they see your post.

Can we just "STOP" with all the foolishness???

please ...
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


When you stop supporting Nancy's foolishness, Melfy!

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