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Hmmm. This [ZetaTalk] chat is easily the most credible and important thread on this travesty of a forum.




Looks like the debunkers are SPEECHLESS!!!

DEBUNKER BOYCOTT
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Haha ......the Zetatalk chat is!!

What else is there to say, Melfy. ANY and ALL other spin otherwise is totally absurd and incorrect.
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t_up

Stop shilling.
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You didn't "ask" nicely.

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 09/24/2009 08:01 AM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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childish arrogance...

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For once I agree with you. Zetatalk and it's long winded list of Failed Claims are at times arrogant and even completely childish in their logic.
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Looks like the debunkers are SPEECHLESS!!!

DEBUNKER BOYCOTT IS A COMPLETE exitfail


Wrong. It was a complete success. Nancy's threads used to get over 20 pages a week easily and remain near the front. Now they sink quite quickly.

sinking
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>> It was a complete success.

It's OVER???!!!

clappa
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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t_up

Stop shilling.

You didn't "ask" nicely.
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You didn't "ask" nicely.
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I doubt that would make much of a difference. As you can see, though, I'm not taking part in the name calling.
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>> It was a complete success.

It's OVER???!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

No. It was and still IS a complete success because her threads still fall quickly and struggle to get over 10 page views a week.

Why aren't you over there if her threads are so popular?

Seems to me that's more evidence the "debunker" campaign is quite successful.

clappa

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t_up

Stop shilling.

You didn't "ask" nicely.


howdie
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pls_stfu
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Hmmm. This [ZetaTalk] chat is easily the most credible and important thread on this travesty of a forum. No wonder it is shouted down by a small bunch of rubes. I think I'll go check out zetatalk.com.


:t_up:
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Commenting your own post?
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Yep! I find it particularly telling how 'he' is now trying to worm out of things he previously asserted as 'fact'.

And THAT again looks so much like the same behaviour of our MasterCultie, BlunderWowan, Mrs Bullshit, Mrs Nelle personally.


It's all far too coincidental for my liking! Basically, Nancy never turns up any more, on threads other than her weekly Zetachat, but ZM turns up in her place selling the cult or trying out new 'spins' to see if anyone will buy them!

:_absurd:
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Melfy caught cold - and the answer is as usual a silly gif.

Poor.
Lame.

fencehitting.....
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But WISDOM **is** the most important thing about Zetatalk! We are here on this earth to grow spiritually, and the WISDOM we acquire is the one treasure we can truly "lay up" in heaven.

And it does not take great wisdom to recognize a monsterpile of Bullshit as Bullshit.....

but it takes some guts do admit to being wrong..... which most people dont have.

It's TOO EARLY for any of that.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

added.


I vote for a permanent ban on bunkers for repeated use of the phrases:
getting closer
Its still incoming
may
NOT NOW
soon
TOO EARLY
wait and see
(will be continued)
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now, why is that?

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thats caused by REALITY and PHYSICS.
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I haven't been here in years. But I fully expected to find Nancy (and her usual small contingent of deranged sock puppets) still ranting on about her imaginary planet and her incompetent aliens.

I see I was correct. Can I get an 'approaching the ecliptic' for old time's sake? Maybe an 'incoming?'

Glad to see the Hated Debunkers are still keeping the mouth-breathers in a tizzy!
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Are you so weak in your own mind that you can't evaluate the facts that are indisputable now and make up your mind that px simply cannot possibly show up between now and 2012?


now, why is that?

the very claim is ridiculous.
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Do you know what the escape velocity of the sun is? FInd it's definition and you will know why it's impossible for a planet the size of Neptune that can't be seen now to travel far enough in that period of time to get here.

As usual, Andrew, you give away your monumental lack of knowledge of basic physics.
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Are you so weak in your own mind that you can't evaluate the facts that are indisputable now and make up your mind that px simply cannot possibly show up between now and 2012?


now, why is that?

the very claim is ridiculous.


Do you know what the escape velocity of the sun is? FInd it's definition and you will know why it's impossible for a planet the size of Neptune that can't be seen now to travel far enough in that period of time to get here.

As usual, Andrew, you give away your monumental lack of knowledge of basic physics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 705842


ZetaTalk: Speed
Note: written during the 2001 sci.astro debates. Expanded with Light Speed Limitation section during IRC Session. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]


Light Speed Limitations

In the dozen or so years prior to a passage, Planet X speeds up from almost a standstill to a zoom, toward the foci it is approaching. Imagine the Earth without atmosphere, and a rock some miles overhead. What is the speed limit on this rock as it plummets? There is no limit in space, only that which mankind assumes. During math discussions on sci.astro, it has been surmised that the speed of Planet X approaches the speed of light during its most rapid approach, and this astonishes those in the discussion. Why is it assumed that light is the fastest thing in the universe, re travel? Man thinks this because it is something he can measure. He is aware of such a small percentage of matter and energy about him that to say that he comprehends 1% of what the universe is composed of would be an overstatement. Our space travel, in 4th Density and even 3rd Density, is faster than light, and we do not melt. Man does not understand, so we cannot give him satisfaction in our explanations. Suffice it to say that our explanation is correct, and Planet X travels rapidly into our midst, thence the Repulsion Force is invoked, thence it floats past between the Earth and Sun.


Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 09/24/2009 12:22 PM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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In the zany little universe of the ZetaTalk faithful, planets zip around like billiard balls with no regard for mere physics. So Saturn could, at any moment, veer from its place, cross the ecliptic (because that sounds eldritch and astronomical, you know), and wind up hovering directly over the Earth's North Pole.

Not really, of course, but to Nancy and crew there's nothing really preposterous about that statement. They've seen billiard balls zip around on a pool table. Billiard balls are spherical. Planets are spherical -- hey, they must be the *same thing!*

And viola, we get 'Incoming!'
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Are you so weak in your own mind that you can't evaluate the facts that are indisputable now and make up your mind that px simply cannot possibly show up between now and 2012?


now, why is that?

the very claim is ridiculous.


Do you know what the escape velocity of the sun is? FInd it's definition and you will know why it's impossible for a planet the size of Neptune that can't be seen now to travel far enough in that period of time to get here.

As usual, Andrew, you give away your monumental lack of knowledge of basic physics.


ZetaTalk: Speed
Note: written during the 2001 sci.astro debates. Expanded with Light Speed Limitation section during IRC Session. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]


Light Speed Limitations

In the dozen or so years prior to a passage, Planet X speeds up from almost a standstill to a zoom, toward the foci it is approaching. Imagine the Earth without atmosphere, and a rock some miles overhead. What is the speed limit on this rock as it plummets? There is no limit in space, only that which mankind assumes. During math discussions on sci.astro, it has been surmised that the speed of Planet X approaches the speed of light during its most rapid approach, and this astonishes those in the discussion. Why is it assumed that light is the fastest thing in the universe, re travel? Man thinks this because it is something he can measure. He is aware of such a small percentage of matter and energy about him that to say that he comprehends 1% of what the universe is composed of would be an overstatement. Our space travel, in 4th Density and even 3rd Density, is faster than light, and we do not melt. Man does not understand, so we cannot give him satisfaction in our explanations. Suffice it to say that our explanation is correct, and Planet X travels rapidly into our midst, thence the Repulsion Force is invoked, thence it floats past between the Earth and Sun.

 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


This bullshit is going to come back to haunt you bigtime once your identity is known after you buy me that steak dinner. That you actually fell for Nancy's lunacy is somthing you're going to regret for the rest of your days.
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BTW, this says nothing about the excape velocity of the sun. That's obviously too far advanced for Nancy to know anything about.
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childish arrogance...



For once I agree with you. Zetatalk and it's long winded list of Failed Claims are at times arrogant and even completely childish in their logic.
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you fool...
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Are you so weak in your own mind that you can't evaluate the facts that are indisputable now and make up your mind that px simply cannot possibly show up between now and 2012?


now, why is that?

the very claim is ridiculous.


Do you know what the escape velocity of the sun is? FInd it's definition and you will know why it's impossible for a planet the size of Neptune that can't be seen now to travel far enough in that period of time to get here.

As usual, Andrew, you give away your monumental lack of knowledge of basic physics.


ZetaTalk: Speed
Note: written during the 2001 sci.astro debates. Expanded with Light Speed Limitation section during IRC Session. Planet X and the 12th Planet are one and the same.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]


Light Speed Limitations

In the dozen or so years prior to a passage, Planet X speeds up from almost a standstill to a zoom, toward the foci it is approaching. Imagine the Earth without atmosphere, and a rock some miles overhead. What is the speed limit on this rock as it plummets? There is no limit in space, only that which mankind assumes. During math discussions on sci.astro, it has been surmised that the speed of Planet X approaches the speed of light during its most rapid approach, and this astonishes those in the discussion. Why is it assumed that light is the fastest thing in the universe, re travel? Man thinks this because it is something he can measure. He is aware of such a small percentage of matter and energy about him that to say that he comprehends 1% of what the universe is composed of would be an overstatement. Our space travel, in 4th Density and even 3rd Density, is faster than light, and we do not melt. Man does not understand, so we cannot give him satisfaction in our explanations. Suffice it to say that our explanation is correct, and Planet X travels rapidly into our midst, thence the Repulsion Force is invoked, thence it floats past between the Earth and Sun.



This bullshit is going to come back to haunt you bigtime once your identity is known after you buy me that steak dinner. That you actually fell for Nancy's lunacy is somthing you're going to regret for the rest of your days.
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I never said I "agreed" with this. I was just sharing what was stated - nothing more.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Only an idiot or a Zeta-Zombie could 'share' such obvious trash without a considerable amount of laughter.
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Right...that you could "share" it with a straight face is very telling.
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Only an idiot or a Zeta-Zombie could 'share' such obvious trash without a considerable amount of laughter.
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My name is ZetaMax.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Nice to meet you, ZetaMax.

I'm new here. I assume you're an associate (snicker) of Nancy Lieder, here to spread the Great Truth that is ZetaTalk?

If so, what's the latest? Is PX 'inbound,' 'coming soon,' 'hidden,' or 'bobbling?'

Bonus points awarded for mangling a basic astronomical term in your reply.
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Nice to meet you, ZetaMax.

I'm new here. I assume you're an associate (snicker) of Nancy Lieder, here to spread the Great Truth that is ZetaTalk?

If so, what's the latest? Is PX 'inbound,' 'coming soon,' 'hidden,' or 'bobbling?'

Bonus points awarded for mangling a basic astronomical term in your reply.
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near
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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LOL!

'Near.' Okay. Which could mean pretty much anything, given Nancy's long record of utter and total inaccuracy.

I'm curious, ZetaMax. I'll assume for a moment that you're not just Nancy waggling a sock-puppet. That's a big assumption, by the way.

So what is it about Nancy's rambling that made you a believer?

It can't be the 'evidence' she's submitted. All of that has proven wrong.

So if not that, what? Do the Zetas screw around with your Starburst candies too?

I'm serious. I'd really like to know what makes her nonsense infectious.
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Yes, much like "soon" (which is a unit of time between now and never), "near" is a unit of distance between 0 miles to many light years away.

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Now, CB!

You'll only confuse the poor Zetas by including a zero in your posts.
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I never said I "agreed" with this. I was just sharing what was stated - nothing more.
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Well, then here's a question for you - since you know we don't buy anything Nancy says and are going to reject it anyway, why post it?
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