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Come on Melfy, if you are 'on the fence' why do you call yourself ZetaMax?

I thought it was cool name.
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That's believable, NOT! Another LIE...

And why do you use more ZetaTalk as a sig?

Nothing you write is true.
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Come on Melfy, if you are 'on the fence' why do you call yourself ZetaMax?

I thought it was cool name.
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It's actually a fucking stupid name, and makes you seem like a sock-puppet.
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Come on Melfy, if you are 'on the fence' why do you call yourself ZetaMax?

I thought it was cool name.


That's believable, NOT! Another LIE...

And why do you use more ZetaTalk as a sig?

Nothing you write is true.
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I never claimed to have all the answers. I'm just an ordinary guy. Though I am a 9-11 survivor.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Why is my ear-wax sun scenario unbelievable, but Nancy's ping-pong planet is worthy of consideration?

I thought I saw you exhort people to keep an open mind, ZetaMax.

Or are you saying some ideas are <gasp> simply ridiculous?
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Why is my ear-wax sun scenario unbelievable, but Nancy's ping-pong planet is worthy of consideration?

I thought I saw you exhort people to keep an open mind, ZetaMax.

Or are you saying some ideas are <gasp> simply ridiculous?
 Quoting: Returner 997

Where is the rule that an apple with a soft spot has to be thrown away? Can you not cut off the offending part and consume the rest???
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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The problem with that, ZetaMax, is that 'ZetaTalk' is *all* rotten.

There's not a single shred of truth there. Anywhere. The science is laughable. Her predictions have universally failed. The woman probably can't tell you when the sun rises without four or five hours of error.

Face it. The errors that make up ZetaTalk are so profound that frankly Truth wouldn't be caught dead standing anywhere near them.

My ear-wax sun theory makes as much, if not more, sense than anything Nancy has said.

So why remain on the fence?
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I question the accuracy of 666 miles - you don't have an "accuracy track record".

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Neither does Nancy. But that never stopped you from buying her bullshit lock, stock and barrel.
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Come on Melfy, if you are 'on the fence' why do you call yourself ZetaMax?

I thought it was cool name.


That's believable, NOT! Another LIE...

And why do you use more ZetaTalk as a sig?

Nothing you write is true.

I never claimed to have all the answers. I'm just an ordinary guy. Though I am a 9-11 survivor.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


He "claims" to also be a lawyer. ROTFLMAO!
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Why is my ear-wax sun scenario unbelievable, but Nancy's ping-pong planet is worthy of consideration?

I thought I saw you exhort people to keep an open mind, ZetaMax.

Or are you saying some ideas are <gasp> simply ridiculous?

Where is the rule that an apple with a soft spot has to be thrown away? Can you not cut off the offending part and consume the rest???
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


What part's of ZT are you saying are "soft" and which are still good? Please be specific?
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Let me ask you, Max...since NOTHING about px has EVER proven to be true in all of ZT, if you cut out PX, what's left? If the entire heart of the story doesn't exist, what's left?
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Thanks, ZetaMax!

So you reject, out of hand, my Revealed Truth concerning the ear-wax Sun, the 666 miles, the quantum string, and the demon Dilligaf.

May I ask why you reject this?

I question the accuracy of 666 miles - you don't have an "accuracy track record".

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


...and neither does Nancy.
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That's just an excuse, easily proven with this statement from ZetaTalk:

As explained on Gentile last evening, but repeated here as many will not be able to hear this streaming audio, we have given the dates out because the US and Indonesian governments can no longer succeed with their plans. We had held the date close, to put these governments in the same position the common man they planned to murder are in, so that rotation stoppage would happen suddenly and prevent a smooth blockading of the city dwellers. As Nancy has been able to be interviewed in the US, the message of these plans replayed around the world, cooperation by the military or locale police in such blockades are unlikely to happen. Given such orders, they would object, refuse, allow escape, as they know the true agenda. Thus, the number of people injured by withholding the date outnumbered the number that would be murdered, the balance scale tipped."
ZetaTalk: Dates, Why Now?
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Read that first sentence again. It clearly states the Zetas gave out the dates because the U.S. and Indonesian governments would not succeed with their plans. Then, the Zetas go on to state that the military and local police would not cooperate. They would allow people to flee. So, we’re left with the question: why would there need to be a "white lie?" The Zetas just said the "balance scale tipped" and withholding the date would harm more than those it would help.


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Thanks, ZetaMax!

So you reject, out of hand, my Revealed Truth concerning the ear-wax Sun, the 666 miles, the quantum string, and the demon Dilligaf.

May I ask why you reject this?

I question the accuracy of 666 miles - you don't have an "accuracy track record".
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Uh... Neither does Zetatalk, fool.
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Come on Melfy, if you are 'on the fence' why do you call yourself ZetaMax?

I thought it was cool name.


That's believable, NOT! Another LIE...

And why do you use more ZetaTalk as a sig?

Nothing you write is true.

I never claimed to have all the answers. I'm just an ordinary guy. Though I am a 9-11 survivor.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***



Me too! Look [taps chest]... still breathing!
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Let me ask you, Max...since NOTHING about px has EVER proven to be true in all of ZT, if you cut out PX, what's left? If the entire heart of the story doesn't exist, what's left?
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STO/STS
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Now, CB!

You'll only confuse the poor Zetas by including a zero in your posts.
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ROFLMAO banana2
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WHY do you accept such OBVIOUS BULLSHIT?? The physics concerning why objects cannot travel at or faster than light is EXTREMELY well known. You should study it, it makes sense in a way Nancy NEVER HAS.

Why are you immune to reason?


>> WHY do you accept such OBVIOUS BULLSHIT??

I don't - that's why I'm not an advocate. But neither am I a detractor. I'm just a casual "observer" is all.


So why do you 'advocate' ZetaTalk by continually posting it??

I'm simply encouraging people to keep an "open mind".
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Which is why Max whined about debunkers on Nancy's thread. He said he wished we would start our own thread and let people that believe in Nancy discuss in a debunker free environment. Max cheered and high fived when Nancy banned Hap. He defended Nancy for banning me. How can you claim to have an open mind when you favor censorship?

Notice also that since the debunker boycott discussion on Nancy's threads is dead, and Max prefers to hang out here, proving he is just a troll trying to bait debunkers.

Max never acknowledges that Nancy is wrong about anything, when the debunkers post evidence, he twists it til he pukes.

Nice try Max.
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I'm simply encouraging people to keep an "open mind".
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I'm simply encouraging people to keep an "open mind".


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Where's the harm??
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Let me ask you, Max...since NOTHING about px has EVER proven to be true in all of ZT, if you cut out PX, what's left? If the entire heart of the story doesn't exist, what's left?

STO/STS
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The IRONY of the STO versus STS thingee is that Ms LIEDer and her imaginary ET Overlords are by definition totally STS and have demonstrated this trait consistently over the years. Therefore this not often discussed reality makes a complete mockery of every SOZT....EOZT ever written.

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WHY do you accept such OBVIOUS BULLSHIT?? The physics concerning why objects cannot travel at or faster than light is EXTREMELY well known. You should study it, it makes sense in a way Nancy NEVER HAS.

Why are you immune to reason?


>> WHY do you accept such OBVIOUS BULLSHIT??

I don't - that's why I'm not an advocate. But neither am I a detractor. I'm just a casual "observer" is all.


So why do you 'advocate' ZetaTalk by continually posting it??

I'm simply encouraging people to keep an "open mind".

Which is why Max whined about debunkers on Nancy's thread. He said he wished we would start our own thread and let people that believe in Nancy discuss in a debunker free environment. Max cheered and high fived when Nancy banned Hap. He defended Nancy for banning me. How can you claim to have an open mind when you favor censorship?

Notice also that since the debunker boycott discussion on Nancy's threads is dead, and Max prefers to hang out here, proving he is just a troll trying to bait debunkers.

Max never acknowledges that Nancy is wrong about anything, when the debunkers post evidence, he twists it til he pukes.

Nice try Max.
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This is not at all true. I fully acknowledged that there was no pole shift in 2003.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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I fully acknowledged that there was no pole shift in 2003.
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No shit Einstein!!

Go to the Top of The Class.....Geez!!

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I fully acknowledged that there was no pole shift in 2003.


No shit Einstein!!

Go to the Top of The Class.....Geez!!
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger

Is it necessary for you to be so RUDE??? einstein

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 09/24/2009 09:55 PM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Let me ask you, Max...since NOTHING about px has EVER proven to be true in all of ZT, if you cut out PX, what's left? If the entire heart of the story doesn't exist, what's left?

STO/STS
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


STO/STS is just a bit of new-age twaddle. It artificially places people into two arbitrary categories that don't exist in a world of complex individuals.

Funny thing Max, your quote from ZetaTalk sig says: "Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations." and yet the STO/STS is a simplistic black/white distinction!

ZetaTalk contradicts itself (as do you!) once again!!!

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Granted, I've not been here long, but it seems fairly clear that 'ZetaMax' doesn't believe in Nancy's inane spew any more than the debunkers do.

He just enjoys yanking chains.

STO/STS? Please, ZetaMax. Put a little more effort into your work.

If you're not going to play hard, don't even play, mkay?
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By the way, Max --

It appears you just said that the only portion of ZT you believe held any credence was the STO/STS bit.

Thus you are rejecting everything else.

PX, the Zetas, the zany astrophysics, the ludicrous math -- all dismissed.

Doesn't that make you, for the most part, one of us?

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By the way, Max --

It appears you just said that the only portion of ZT you believe held any credence was the STO/STS bit.

Thus you are rejecting everything else.

PX, the Zetas, the zany astrophysics, the ludicrous math -- all dismissed.

Doesn't that make you, for the most part, one of us?

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Not exactly - for my "position" is that Nancy "may indeed" be a Zetan emissary acting as a "voice in the wilderness"; issuing a WARNING for mankind that something "problematic" this way comes.

Whether that "something" is "Planet X" is FAR less important than the assertion that humanity faces a near-term collective "threat" that REQUIRES some forward planning if one wishes to remain ahead of it.

There are PLENTY of other sources issuing the same warnings, so Nancy is not all that unique. What is impressive is how she has accurately tracked economic, geopolitical, weather and military developments. Her analysis is ALWAYS fascinating if not always completely accurate in every detail - which again is missing the point. Nobody faults trend forecaster Gerald Celente when he's not entirely accurate, but then foolishly insist that Nancy meet some kind of impossible standards of perfection - or "admit" to being a fraud.

Yeah right!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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So, Max, you pretty much admit that Mancy's PX stuff is nonsense. And it is.

If you believe what you're saying, I urge you to reflect upon it carefully. I can absolutely assure you that I could contrive a fictional race of aliens and pretend to channel warning from them and make predictions every bit as accurate as any Nancy has supplied.

Max, she's just not very bright. Anyone can mutter about conflict to come and calamity here and hardship there and appear to be right, as long as you give them a lot of factual leeway and squint just so. Nancy's not even very good at what she does.

Her Zetas are just silly. No zeros? They don't even grasp basic physical concepts. They can communicate with a daft Earth woman across vast distances but they can't do tenth-grade math problems on Coast to Coast? Which again isn't surprising because they're the creation of a woman who herself probably can't perform any actions more difficult that basic addition and subtraction.

If you're looking for cosmic insights, there are certainly better-written and more amusing charlatans available.

Of course, if you're looking for genuine cosmis insights, well, there's science. Yeah, it's hard. It's a lot of work. But even when it's wrong, it's not out to trick you just because it doesn't have anything better to do.

Just think about it.

Of course, if you know all this already, and baiting debunkers is something you do to pass the time for fun, carry on.
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By the way, Max --

It appears you just said that the only portion of ZT you believe held any credence was the STO/STS bit.

Thus you are rejecting everything else.

PX, the Zetas, the zany astrophysics, the ludicrous math -- all dismissed.

Doesn't that make you, for the most part, one of us?

:5:

Not exactly - for my "position" is that Nancy "may indeed" be a Zetan emissary acting as a "voice in the wilderness"; issuing a WARNING for mankind that something "problematic" this way comes.

Whether that "something" is "Planet X" is FAR less important than the assertion that humanity faces a near-term collective "threat" that REQUIRES some forward planning if one wishes to remain ahead of it.

There are PLENTY of other sources issuing the same warnings, so Nancy is not all that unique. What is impressive is how she has accurately tracked economic, geopolitical, weather and military developments. Her analysis is ALWAYS fascinating if not always completely accurate in every detail - which again is missing the point. Nobody faults trend forecaster Gerald Celente when he's not entirely accurate, but then foolishly insist that Nancy meet some kind of impossible standards of perfection - or "admit" to being a fraud.

Yeah right!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


ANYTHING Nancy predicts(or claims) which can be DEFINITIVELY analysed for accuracy is ALWAYS WRONG. Only on the items which are dabatable can you imagine her to have been right.

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