But i see i shouldnt post in older ones a swell - popeye greetings.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17230
Probably not because it caused Soledad to have an orgasm that any of Nancy's threads were on the front page. Something she was all too happy to point out...regardless of the fact that no intelligent conversation by her supporters was taking place there.
People put pets to sleep ALL THE TIME. There is nothing sinister in it.
end quote
quote
Nancy Lieder Interview on KROQ, May 16, 2003
Interviewer 2: You weren't really advising people to drown their dogs were you?
Nancy: Yeah...
Interviewer 2: You were?
Nancy: (stuttering) Yeah, well, (stuttering) and, and well the fact is they are gonna starve and be injured...
Interviewer 1: Nancy....? (in disbelief)
Nancy: .....and they'll be in a worse situation.... Or eaten.
And now a quote from Zetamax
i) HER INDISPUTABLE SINCERITY - she obviously REALLY believed the pole shift was IMMINENT, which destroys all the de-bunkers' tiresome claims that she is some kind of chronic lier.
Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
No, simply mentally unsound.
iv) That BUT-FOR the sincere conviction that Earth was days away from a pole shift, she would NOT have done this.
Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
One moment the dog is dangerous the next quote you would not have put the dog down.
B) How is this "BAD ADVICE" when indeed "an impending pole-shift BECOMES obvious" once preliminary signs such as three-days-of-darkness, six days of sunrise west, roiling monster red comet in the sky, etc, BEGIN TO MANIFEST??? Everything Nancy has stated is otherwise TRUE and COMPELLING.
Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
NONE of the above has ever happended so it is obviously bad advice.
i) There won't be food for pets, unless such food has been denied to other surviving humans - which in all likelyhood includes children in the IMMEDIATE AREA.
Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
PR
But the death of 6 billion humans will leave a LOT of animal food lying around.
ii) Unless guarded with firearms 24-7, along with a willingness to KILL HUMANS rather than pets, the pet certainly WILL NOT survive and become DINNER long before it succumbs to starvation.
Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
PR
The chinese consider dog a delicacy, either way the humans are better off.
And From Nancy in June 2003
And also from the June 6th show comes this gem. Notice the excuses about the dog not being "socialized" etc are not mentioned since Nancy is still trying to wring it into a "zeta message".
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Lou:
See I'm, I, I, it's like I'm channelling or something, I don't know. All right, let's go to er... to another one. Errrrrr.... let's see this is one is from Danish Wick, it says ask her why the Zetas told her people to kill their pets if this is the only "white lie?" and er... and that's it.
Nancy:
They didn't tell people to kill their pets. They, uhhhh... answered a question and it was in regards to what I do to my little "fluffy," you know, what, what do you suggest to do with pets. Like for instance they've gotten questions about domestic animals during the hours of rotation stoppage and they, the advice was if you keep them in the barn they're going to throw themselves against the doors and the walls and hurt themselves and break a leg and you'll have to put them down. Let them loose to run in the fields, because they'll run themselves into exhaustion and after the pole shift is over they'll more likely be OK. If you keep them in the barn they'll thrash around out of, because get frantic when there' moaning ahead of an earthquake. So with pets they said that consider that your neighbour's children are going to be starving and, and er... what you going to feed your pet if your neighbours children are starving. So, uhmmm.... if, if a person's in a situation not being able to feed their pets uhhhh.... we, we recommend euphonising it, but only when you're darn sure that, that this is the step to take in other words don't rush out and do it now, wait until you see, to your satisfaction, evidence that a pole shift is, I mean if the world stops rotating for a few days. Hey that red... green light has gone off, you know that red light is blinking whatever, how you want to call it. So, they didn't say go kill pets, they were asked a question to do with "fluffy" and they responded with an honest, practical answer. Like what you do about drinking water? Distil it, cause' it gets rid of lead and pollutants. That kind of a practical answer and it's become Nancy Lieder the puppy killer all over the place.
end quote
Then there is this.
quote
Here is the transcript from the Q102 radio station interview.
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Host #1
So we're goin get flooded in Philly?
Nancy#
Oh... horribly
---snip 8<
Host #1
Was... so what should I Ok, I own a, I have a two dogs, two golden retrievers, people have pets what do you recommend we do? Take them with us to the woods?
Nancy#
We have stated that ya know dogs make a wonderful meal and when people are starving.....
Host #2
Ohhhh Jeeesh
Nancy#
... they're goin' be eaten. You take it to the vet and put it to sleep. You can...
Host #1 [Interrupting.]
Hold on a second, your saying, your saying ya got a take our.... you.... we have to take our pets and have em put in, put em to sleep?
Nancy#
If you see rotation as stopping. It's up to you, but that's what I would do.
Nancy can spin all she likes but her own words bury the dog for the zetas "Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind"
Circuit Breaker Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure User ID: 612979 United States 6/15/2009 10:49 AM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
My argument to all of Max's points would be: How could she sincerely believe that the "pole shift" was imminent? None of the things the "Zetas" said would be signs actually happened. "Planet X" was not undeniable in the sky. This is something that would have been visible for weeks, possibly even months prior to any "pole shift." And there would have been more serious catastrophic events taking place prior to any "pole shift." There would have been massive high tides as the gravity from "Planet X" combined with the sun. There would have been daily quakes of serious magnitude. None of that was happening.
Wait, let me guess...you're going to claim the "Zetas" were using their powerful technology to keep everything normal.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 676673 United States 6/15/2009 10:51 AM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
My argument to all of Max's points would be: How could she sincerely believe that the "pole shift" was imminent? None of the things the "Zetas" said would be signs actually happened. "Planet X" was not undeniable in the sky. This is something that would have been visible for weeks, possibly even months prior to any "pole shift." And there would have been more serious catastrophic events taking place prior to any "pole shift." There would have been massive high tides as the gravity from "Planet X" combined with the sun. There would have been daily quakes of serious magnitude. None of that was happening.
Wait, let me guess...you're going to claim the "Zetas" were using their powerful technology to keep everything normal.
Quoting: Circuit Breaker
Why is that "impossible" to imagine??? The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
I saw that thread [Zetatalk debunker threads are hilarious... by Soledad]. And I noticed she lied and failed to mention that she and ZetaMax have both posted here...ZetaMax more than just once.
I commented in her thread that she and other "bunkers" have been bitching and moaning about "debunkers" being in Nancy's threads so we decided to start our own. Now they're bitching about us being gone because her threads are no longer getting the attention they once did. They need to decide which way they want it...do they want us posting there or not? They can't have it both ways.
Quoting: Circuit Breaker
Yes, believers have wanted the debunkers out of THEIR threads so that they might have a decent conversation with each other, without anyone interrupting with questions that they can't answer or other difficult things that would require thinking and criticality. They have frequently expressed their will to be left alone with only like-minded people or those who believe in Planet X.
Because critics are never allowed to stay in cults. Cults always (try to) get rid of their critics. Cultic mind-set isn't really dynamic or flowing, they want to freeze their beliefs and interpretations of reality instead.
What do these Nancy or Planet X believers want... Most probably they want that everybody on planet earth would agree with them, be like them, believe like them, and so all would be well in their fairy-tale-land of cultic imagination.
Of course, in reality imagination isn't really favored in cults, because the followers are supposed to believe what the leader or the doctrine tells them. In reality cults tend to misuse concepts to their own ends, and so imagination in cults has come to mean lack of discernment and criticality. While in science imagination is critical, e.g. cosmologists, philosophers and sociologists must have critical imagination if they're any good at what they do for scientific advancement. Imagination doesn't mean bullshitting except in cultic circles. Cults tend to define words in their own way not common to others.
So basically believers want that debunkers stop existing in their reality. Please stop breathing. Go home. Fuck off. All kinds of insults and threats (karma and afterlife are quite popular in spiritual cults to make threats about, but then again threatening with hell has been a favorite passtime of the cultists for centuries).
Tough situation. They want everybody to be like them. Or, if that's not possible (they do have some sense of reality here:)) the difficult/different people should just stay out of their way and their sight. They don't want to read other people's (non-believers!) messages or reflect on their thinking or know anything else than what their cult tells them.
KeepingItReal User ID: 553451 Canada 6/15/2009 12:03 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
Another thing that baffles me about the Zetatalk message is the issue of the Zetas wanting to repopulate this planet with human/zeta hybrids. Nancy and Max seem to look on that as a good thing!??
I always wondered how anyone can trust these Zetas (assuming for the sake of discussion that they even exist outside Nancy's imagination) when they seem to lie, hide information from us that is vital to our survival, and they admit that they wish to take over our planet once we are all dead. I would think that anyone supporting any such agenda would be a traitor to their own kind. Max made a statement on another thread alluding to this not being our planet, and the implication would be that the Zetas have the right to colonize the earth. Well using that logic, every white person should up and leave the American continent, because it belongs to the natives. Of course, even though I was born into a first nations community, I would never suggest any such thing, since most of the white people living here were born here and therefore have a birthright. I look beyond the skin colour and realize that in spirit we are all brothers, and history is dead, we need to learn from it and make the present and future better. To further the agenda of those that wish to see our kind destroyed is sick. If she loves the Zetas so much, why doesn't she just go and join them. They certainly don't display kindness and regard for others. Of course, it is highly unlikely that these Zetas exist, so the above is hypothetical, but it does shed some light on the mindset of Nancy and those that follow her. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 679804 Finland 6/15/2009 12:05 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
I would like to add that believers NEED their debunkers because they need the ENEMY. Nancy has declared the debunkers as enemy from the very beginning. Thus there has been the self-made definition of "bunk" as good, being and believing in zetacult, versus "debunk" as bad, opposing of zetacult.
Cultists never care much about finding proper knowledge or evidence for their claims. There’s no need to actually read the dictionaries or any contrary evidence. Maintaining cultic belief system of "us" versus "them" is what’s essential for them.
***ZetaMax*** Getting The Truth Out User ID: 659599 United States 6/15/2009 12:31 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
Another thing that baffles me about the Zetatalk message is the issue of the Zetas wanting to repopulate this planet with human/zeta hybrids. Nancy and Max seem to look on that as a good thing!??
I always wondered how anyone can trust these Zetas (assuming for the sake of discussion that they even exist outside Nancy's imagination) when they seem to lie, hide information from us that is vital to our survival, and they admit that they wish to take over our planet once we are all dead. I would think that anyone supporting any such agenda would be a traitor to their own kind. Max made a statement on another thread alluding to this not being our planet, and the implication would be that the Zetas have the right to colonize the earth. Well using that logic, every white person should up and leave the American continent, because it belongs to the natives. Of course, even though I was born into a first nations community, I would never suggest any such thing, since most of the white people living here were born here and therefore have a birthright. I look beyond the skin colour and realize that in spirit we are all brothers, and history is dead, we need to learn from it and make the present and future better. To further the agenda of those that wish to see our kind destroyed is sick. If she loves the Zetas so much, why doesn't she just go and join them. They certainly don't display kindness and regard for others. Of course, it is highly unlikely that these Zetas exist, so the above is hypothetical, but it does shed some light on the mindset of Nancy and those that follow her.
Quoting: KeepingItReal
>> I look beyond the skin colour and realize that in spirit we are all brothers
Well then, what difference does it make if a soul occupies a hairy primate body that farts, or a hairless one that doesn't???
The assertion is that the BULK of STO-committed souls that have evolved here on earth, are ready for a "vehicle" upgrade. The argument being that at some point in a soul's evolution, they must give up their tricycle and learn how to ride a two-wheeler. The "new and improved" hybrid bodies are supposed to "support" exponentially greater intelligence - kind of like comparing a slide-rule to a modern laptop. Human bodies are really glorified primates built for PHYSICAL labor, with the mental faculties (and especially the telepathic abilities) greatly attenuated. Physical labor is NOT the paradigm advanced souls are subjected to - that is their PAST, not their FUTURE.
Grow up and think outside of your "skin" for a change.
PLEASE - contemplate YOUR OWN words that I helpfully quoted above before you prematurely ejacu-post. The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
Good idea to post seperately from Nancy's threads and let them die from non-use.
Quite funny that noone here even answers melfimax....
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 703215
"melfimax" => NOT my name The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
Another thing that baffles me about the Zetatalk message is the issue of the Zetas wanting to repopulate this planet with human/zeta hybrids. Nancy and Max seem to look on that as a good thing!??
I always wondered how anyone can trust these Zetas (assuming for the sake of discussion that they even exist outside Nancy's imagination) when they seem to lie, hide information from us that is vital to our survival, and they admit that they wish to take over our planet once we are all dead. I would think that anyone supporting any such agenda would be a traitor to their own kind. Max made a statement on another thread alluding to this not being our planet, and the implication would be that the Zetas have the right to colonize the earth. Well using that logic, every white person should up and leave the American continent, because it belongs to the natives. Of course, even though I was born into a first nations community, I would never suggest any such thing, since most of the white people living here were born here and therefore have a birthright. I look beyond the skin colour and realize that in spirit we are all brothers, and history is dead, we need to learn from it and make the present and future better. To further the agenda of those that wish to see our kind destroyed is sick. If she loves the Zetas so much, why doesn't she just go and join them. They certainly don't display kindness and regard for others. Of course, it is highly unlikely that these Zetas exist, so the above is hypothetical, but it does shed some light on the mindset of Nancy and those that follow her.
>> I look beyond the skin colour and realize that in spirit we are all brothers
Well then, what difference does it make if a soul occupies a hairy primate body that farts, or a hairless one that doesn't???
The assertion is that the BULK of STO-committed souls that have evolved here on earth, are ready for a "vehicle" upgrade. The argument being that at some point in a soul's evolution, they must give up their tricycle and learn how to ride a two-wheeler. The "new and improved" hybrid bodies are supposed to "support" exponentially greater intelligence - kind of like comparing a slide-rule to a modern laptop. Human bodies are really glorified primates built for PHYSICAL labor, with the mental faculties (and especially the telepathic abilities) greatly attenuated. Physical labor is NOT the paradigm advanced souls are subjected to - that is their PAST, not their FUTURE.
Grow up and think outside of your "skin" for a change.
PLEASE - contemplate YOUR OWN words that I helpfully quoted above before you prematurely ejacu-post.
Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
Oh Maxi, you really don't believe that, do you? The physical body has nothing to do with spiritual development. Every human is capable of developing things like telepathy and clairvoyance, all they need is to receive proper stimulation, especially when they are children. I know Nancy disagrees with that, but in my experience it is true. Physical labour is part of the the experience of being in a physical realm, and in order to be here we need a physical body, but the body does not confine spirit unless we immerse ourselves too deeply in the physical at the expense of the energetic body. You are baiting me and I won't bite. Isn't there something meaningful you should be discussing with other believers on Nancy's thread? I mean, after all, that's what you have claimed in the past to want - for all debunkers to leave so you all could have a meaningful discussion? As someone once said, be careful what you wish for, because it might happen. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Prof_Rabbit User ID: 148352 Australia 6/15/2009 12:46 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
quote
There do seem to be a couple of goof-balls left, but they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, it seems? Just their words have a very vile feeling ... like they know so much more than everybody else. Such is the selfish spirit!
Quoting: User # 78/68
>> ... it's actually nice in here right now.
Melfy
Liberating!
end quote
Look, they like to cuddle! they should do that more often!
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind"
Prof_Rabbit User ID: 148352 Australia 6/15/2009 1:08 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
You never say "imagine." You say as if it is fact. And when anybody disputes your claim, you get bent out of shape. But it doesn't matter anyway since it turned out not to be true. However, if the "Zetas" were doing such a thing...it seems to me they'd only be helping the government cover up something that would otherwise be impossible for them to do without the help of the "Zetas."
Anonymous Coward User ID: 554023 United States 6/15/2009 1:16 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
Geez, one of her supporters said in Nancy's June 6th thread, "Wow, 28 pages in two days. Zetas right again."
Apparently, math wasn't their strong suit. I count nine days. And most of that activity was from "debunkers." Now her threads just get mindless bumps.
Quoting: Circuit Breaker
The 28 pages are filled with debunker cartoons,as you know. LOUD statements and RIDICULE are the way you people communicate. Shills are paid for this kind of attack. Silly visual images. Childish.
Circuit Breaker Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure User ID: 612979 United States 6/15/2009 1:17 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
ZetaMax and User have been discussing...sort of. They haven't actually be talking about Nancy's accuracy...probably because there isn't any. User is still insulting a few others but his tone is way down. So far though, most of their conversation has been talking about "how liberating" it is now that "debunkers" are gone. Translation: How quiet it is without us.
And Soledad's threads have lacked any real activity so she's had to bump her own threads to get any exposure.
***ZetaMax*** Getting The Truth Out User ID: 659599 United States 6/15/2009 1:17 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
You never say "imagine." You say as if it is fact. And when anybody disputes your claim, you get bent out of shape. But it doesn't matter anyway since it turned out not to be true. However, if the "Zetas" were doing such a thing...it seems to me they'd only be helping the government cover up something that would otherwise be impossible for them to do without the help of the "Zetas."
Quoting: Circuit Breaker
>> You never say "imagine." You say as if it is fact.
It doesn't get any BALDER either! The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
Soledad is really a piece of work. She posted a thread about how our boycott is ridiculous. Last week she started another thread about how debunkers are like TV commercials, and rants about how we just disrupt the discussion. Yet now that we have abandoned Nancy's thread, no meaningful discussion is taking place.
On her new thread, she somehow felt challenged to not post on this thread, and expects the debunkers to stay off all pro planet x threads. I told her to do as she pleases, it doesn't change the fact that Nancy's thread is dead without us. I for one welcome the bunkers on this thread, because I am not too stuck in my ways to listen to counterpoint, and I am not too insecure to defend my point of view with verifiable supporting evidence.
I think that is the crux of the matter. Bunkers don't like debunkers because debunkers are willing to back up their position, but bunkers can't or won't back up anything, which suggests that they have nothing but their devout belief. At the same time, as has been observed on this thread, a cult needs detractors to create that Us vs Them mentality. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Circuit Breaker Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure User ID: 612979 United States 6/15/2009 1:18 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
The 28 pages are filled with debunker cartoons,as you know. LOUD statements and RIDICULE are the way you people communicate. Shills are paid for this kind of attack. Silly visual images. Childish.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554023
Oh, so you're calling ZetaMax a debunker? After all, he posts a lot of cartoons as well. Ooops! I don't think he'll like that. Only paid shills such as yourself would make a comment without thinking it through first.
Duncan Kunz The Debunker King User ID: 10104 United States 6/15/2009 1:28 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
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I still don't understand why she's allowed to be a mod, and have "Zeta Talk".. beyond me, man.
Quoting: Burning Beard [NLI
Look at the size of the Ztard thread and the number of Ztard posts! From what i gather, Nancy doesn't post anywhere else, and her entire gig is running the Ztard posts. The way I look at it, a major part of Nancy's Mod unique activity ties in with her demographic, which is fine by me.
Of course, she, maxi and sole are nuttier'n a fruitcake, but hey, we don't discriminate against the mentally ill; is says so right here.
Last Edited by Duncan Kunz on 6/15/2009 at 1:35 PM Where's the EVIDENCE, Jim?
Anonymous Coward User ID: 225527 United States 6/15/2009 1:38 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
I don't get why you people start choosing sides, like in a game. Debunkers vs Bunkers. That's stupid. Like in every similar topic, the point is to search for the truth. And everything here points to a strong conclusion: Zetatalk is wrong. End of story.
***ZetaMax*** Getting The Truth Out User ID: 659599 United States 6/15/2009 1:45 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat March 20 - Zetas 100% Wrong Yet Again!! (A GLP Top 20 Most Popular Thread).
I don't get why you people start choosing sides, like in a game. Debunkers vs Bunkers. That's stupid. Like in every similar topic, the point is to search for the truth. And everything here points to a strong conclusion: Zetatalk is wrong. End of story.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 225527
>> the point is to search for the truth.
Seems like you've STOPPED searching.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
It is amusing how desperately the believers are bumping Nancy's thread -- and how inane the discussion is. And this is just the first week.
By the end of a month, I don't know what they'll be bumping the thread WITH.
"Being overweight is good for the poleshift."
"Know your berries."
At least #78/68 admitted that if the PS doesn't happen by 2012, that it won't happen. Expect he'll change THAT attitude when it doesn't happen, and Nancy and her believers point at 2036-38 as the next set of dates...and the cycle of deception/belief/reality doesn't cooperate/repeat will continue...
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