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There do seem to be a couple of goof-balls left, but they aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer, it seems? Just their words have a very vile feeling ... like they know so much more than everybody else. Such is the selfish spirit!
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>> ... it's actually nice in here right now.

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Soledad, the sock puppet you have when the other socks are in the wash...

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Why is that "impossible" to imagine???
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

You never say "imagine." You say as if it is fact. And when anybody disputes your claim, you get bent out of shape. But it doesn't matter anyway since it turned out not to be true. However, if the "Zetas" were doing such a thing...it seems to me they'd only be helping the government cover up something that would otherwise be impossible for them to do without the help of the "Zetas."
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Geez, one of her supporters said in Nancy's June 6th thread, "Wow, 28 pages in two days. Zetas right again."

Apparently, math wasn't their strong suit. I count nine days. And most of that activity was from "debunkers." Now her threads just get mindless bumps.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

The 28 pages are filled with debunker cartoons,as you know. LOUD statements and RIDICULE are the way you people communicate. Shills are paid for this kind of attack. Silly visual images. Childish.
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ZetaMax and User have been discussing...sort of. They haven't actually be talking about Nancy's accuracy...probably because there isn't any. User is still insulting a few others but his tone is way down. So far though, most of their conversation has been talking about "how liberating" it is now that "debunkers" are gone. Translation: How quiet it is without us.

And Soledad's threads have lacked any real activity so she's had to bump her own threads to get any exposure.
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Why is that "impossible" to imagine???

You never say "imagine." You say as if it is fact. And when anybody disputes your claim, you get bent out of shape. But it doesn't matter anyway since it turned out not to be true. However, if the "Zetas" were doing such a thing...it seems to me they'd only be helping the government cover up something that would otherwise be impossible for them to do without the help of the "Zetas."
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


>> You never say "imagine." You say as if it is fact.

bald_lie

It doesn't get any BALDER either!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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Soledad is really a piece of work. She posted a thread about how our boycott is ridiculous. Last week she started another thread about how debunkers are like TV commercials, and rants about how we just disrupt the discussion. Yet now that we have abandoned Nancy's thread, no meaningful discussion is taking place.

On her new thread, she somehow felt challenged to not post on this thread, and expects the debunkers to stay off all pro planet x threads. I told her to do as she pleases, it doesn't change the fact that Nancy's thread is dead without us. I for one welcome the bunkers on this thread, because I am not too stuck in my ways to listen to counterpoint, and I am not too insecure to defend my point of view with verifiable supporting evidence.

I think that is the crux of the matter. Bunkers don't like debunkers because debunkers are willing to back up their position, but bunkers can't or won't back up anything, which suggests that they have nothing but their devout belief. At the same time, as has been observed on this thread, a cult needs detractors to create that Us vs Them mentality.
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The 28 pages are filled with debunker cartoons,as you know. LOUD statements and RIDICULE are the way you people communicate. Shills are paid for this kind of attack. Silly visual images. Childish.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554023

Oh, so you're calling ZetaMax a debunker? After all, he posts a lot of cartoons as well. Ooops! I don't think he'll like that. Only paid shills such as yourself would make a comment without thinking it through first.
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I still don't understand why she's allowed to be a mod, and have "Zeta Talk".. beyond me, man.
 Quoting: Burning Beard


Look at the size of the Ztard thread and the number of Ztard posts! From what i gather, Nancy doesn't post anywhere else, and her entire gig is running the Ztard posts. The way I look at it, a major part of Nancy's Mod unique activity ties in with her demographic, which is fine by me.

Of course, she, maxi and sole are nuttier'n a fruitcake, but hey, we don't discriminate against the mentally ill; is says so right here.

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I don't get why you people start choosing sides, like in a game. Debunkers vs Bunkers. That's stupid. Like in every similar topic, the point is to search for the truth. And everything here points to a strong conclusion: Zetatalk is wrong. End of story.
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I don't get why you people start choosing sides, like in a game. Debunkers vs Bunkers. That's stupid. Like in every similar topic, the point is to search for the truth. And everything here points to a strong conclusion: Zetatalk is wrong. End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 225527

>> the point is to search for the truth.

Seems like you've STOPPED searching.

idyut
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Seems like you've STOPPED searching.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

So did you...when you stumbled upon ZetaTalk.
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It is amusing how desperately the believers are bumping Nancy's thread -- and how inane the discussion is. And this is just the first week.

By the end of a month, I don't know what they'll be bumping the thread WITH.

"Being overweight is good for the poleshift."
"Know your berries."

At least #78/68 admitted that if the PS doesn't happen by 2012, that it won't happen. Expect he'll change THAT attitude when it doesn't happen, and Nancy and her believers point at 2036-38 as the next set of dates...and the cycle of deception/belief/reality doesn't cooperate/repeat will continue...

Sheesh.
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I think the Zeta assessment is correct. The elite do not want widespread knowledge of the coming changes. Shills are here to plant doubt and ridicule the message. This world is dying/tranforming. Sensitives are aware of it. Others know only the status quo. Shills are either in the know or not. Their motive for shilling differs only on that basis. There is a new world about to be born, not a New World Order.
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I think the Zeta assessment is correct. The elite do not want widespread knowledge of the coming changes. Shills are here to plant doubt and ridicule the message. This world is dying/tranforming. Sensitives are aware of it. Others know only the status quo. Shills are either in the know or not. Their motive for shilling differs only on that basis. There is a new world about to be born, not a New World Order.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554023


If you believe Nancy, then you'd know that it is the Zetas who are covering up the coming events.

Of course, it's all a scam anyway.
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I think the Zeta assessment is correct. The elite do not want widespread knowledge of the coming changes. Shills are here to plant doubt and ridicule the message. This world is dying/tranforming. Sensitives are aware of it. Others know only the status quo. Shills are either in the know or not. Their motive for shilling differs only on that basis. There is a new world about to be born, not a New World Order.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554023

Yeah, that's why it's on the History Channel, right?

Change is a comin', but not due to some punk ass planet.
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It would seem smarter of the elite to unite the masses in the face of such a cataclysm. It would give them far more control, and the masses would go quite willingly.

Hiding such a threat wouldn't be to their advantage. I'd venture to say they've actually read Machiavelli.
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I find it hilarious that anyone would claim that TPTB are trying to hide coming events when a batty old woman from Wisconsin would be so easy to shut up. These idiots give their fairy tale much more credibility than it deserves.
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I think the Zeta assessment is correct.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554023

How do you figure? Nothing they've claimed would happen actually occurred. "Planet X" failed to show up in 2003 and cause a "pole shift." And it has failed to show up every year since then.

The elite do not want widespread knowledge of the coming changes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554023

And what changes would those be?

Shills are here to plant doubt and ridicule the message.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554023

And you're a shill here trying to get people to believe in something that isn't happening.
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It would seem smarter of the elite to unite the masses in the face of such a cataclysm. It would give them far more control, and the masses would go quite willingly.

Hiding such a threat wouldn't be to their advantage. I'd venture to say they've actually read Machiavelli.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6330

Precisely. If TPTB really wanted to murder and control us, as Nancy claims, the best way to accomplish this would be to announce an imminent threat to the entire human race and implement martial law "for our own good". As 6330 says, most people would get on their knees and thank the government for it, they would voluntarily do as they were told. It would serve no purpose whatsoever to hide such a thing from the general public. Just look at how the American people rallied behind the president in the hours and days immediately following 911. A common threat to the general public is a great mechanism for those in power to control the masses.
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It is interesting that the all-knowing Zetas seem to have the exact scientific, political, and philosophical abilities as a certain old lady in Wisconsin...
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It is interesting that the all-knowing Zetas seem to have the exact scientific, political, and philosophical abilities as a certain old lady in Wisconsin...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6330

Do YOU have an accuracy track record?

... thought not!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Do YOU have an accuracy track record?

... thought not!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Does Nancy?

Oh, yeah...she does...but is it 100% right as the "Zetas" claim?

Thought not.

Glad we got that cleared up.

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It is interesting that the all-knowing Zetas seem to have the exact scientific, political, and philosophical abilities as a certain old lady in Wisconsin...

Do YOU have an accuracy track record?

... thought not!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Neither do the Zetas. They have an inaccuracy track record. C'mon Max. Show us just one accurate prediction that you can back up with something current and not related to ZetaTalk or 30 year old articles that have been made obsolete by new discoveries.
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It would seem smarter of the elite to unite the masses in the face of such a cataclysm. It would give them far more control, and the masses would go quite willingly.

Hiding such a threat wouldn't be to their advantage. I'd venture to say they've actually read Machiavelli.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6330

Just imagine for a minute what occurs after a storm and electricity is off for three weeks. Watch how things change with curfews, looting and the general breakdown of order. What do you think will occur when Planet X appears?
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It is interesting that the all-knowing Zetas seem to have the exact scientific, political, and philosophical abilities as a certain old lady in Wisconsin...

Do YOU have an accuracy track record?

... thought not!

Neither do the Zetas. They have an inaccuracy track record. C'mon Max. Show us just one accurate prediction that you can back up with something current and not related to ZetaTalk or 30 year old articles that have been made obsolete by new discoveries.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Can you LIST some of those "new" discoveries???

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It would seem smarter of the elite to unite the masses in the face of such a cataclysm. It would give them far more control, and the masses would go quite willingly.

Hiding such a threat wouldn't be to their advantage. I'd venture to say they've actually read Machiavelli.

Just imagine for a minute what occurs after a storm and electricity is off for three weeks. Watch how things change with curfews, looting and the general breakdown of order. What do you think will occur when Planet X appears?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554023

Which is why it would be in the best interests of the authorities to strike first, inform the public of a grave threat and implement martial law before a general breakdown of order occurs. As I said, if the planet x/pole shift scenario was true, and if TPTB knew about it as Nancy claims they do, it would be a perfect opportunity for them to implement martial law, which also according to Nancy is what they want anyways.
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It is interesting that the all-knowing Zetas seem to have the exact scientific, political, and philosophical abilities as a certain old lady in Wisconsin...

Do YOU have an accuracy track record?

... thought not!

Neither do the Zetas. They have an inaccuracy track record. C'mon Max. Show us just one accurate prediction that you can back up with something current and not related to ZetaTalk or 30 year old articles that have been made obsolete by new discoveries.


Can you LIST some of those "new" discoveries???

l_aff_ass
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Yep, just as I thought, you can't do it, so you try to lob the question back at me. You really don't see how pathetic you look, do you?
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It is interesting that the all-knowing Zetas seem to have the exact scientific, political, and philosophical abilities as a certain old lady in Wisconsin...

Do YOU have an accuracy track record?

... thought not!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Actually, yes.

I predicted no poleshift in 2003. I was correct.
I predicted that Nancy would push back the date, and continue her cult. Right again.
I predicted that planetary movements would occur as traditional science predicted. Nancy predicted the Venus transit would occur in the wrong way. I was correct. Nancy was not.
I predicted Obama would win the election before the Democratic primaries had started. Nancy claimed Obama would lose, then took it back much later. So I got her again.

How many predictions makes a 'track record?'
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Just imagine for a minute what occurs after a storm and electricity is off for three weeks. Watch how things change with curfews, looting and the general breakdown of order. What do you think will occur when Planet X appears?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 554023


You set up the masses before hand.

The best lies are the ones couched in truth -- Nancy knows this very, very well.

You have them prepare for the coming disaster, and in doing so, you shore up your own position nicely. You have the excuse to do 'whatever is necessary,' including quietly getting rid of/targeting individuals and groups you don't like, and of organizing society into 'better prepared ways' that you ultimately control. You get the public used to the idea if curfews, you call up the military to shoot looters/troublemakers in advance, and advance your secret agenda of who will survive -- all the time rallying the public to your cause.

You ANNOUNCE that PX is there, invisibly, and will hit sometime in 2011. You state its invisible, but should appear near that time. You neuter the entire Zetatalk message in one fell swoop.

You don't hide the fact that a cataclysm is coming. You USE the fact that a cataclysm is coming.

Unless, of course, no such cataclysm is coming. Because PX is NOT going to appear, because it doesn't exist -- certainly not as described by Zetatalk.

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