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Is that our Gerard this site talks about ? VERY interesting indeed. Thx for that link !
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Gerard's page is here.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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by disturbing Earths core with its magnetic and gravitational fields. core receives increased circulation ('roiling') putting out

Might be plausible IF this "rogue planet" were closer. But there's no way that it can do what you propose from such a distance.
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Good point. He says that PX is beyond Pluto, but STILL causing warming on Earth? Does he know how FAR Pluto is??
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Gerard's page is here.
[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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Thanks ... now I know at least what kind of stoned dutch tard we discuss here.
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If it's beyond Pluto, then there is no possible way it could be here before 2012 given the escape velocity of the sun. If it were travelling fast enough to get here by then, then it would NOT be in orbit around the sun since it would be travelling faster than the sun's escape velocity.

But we can't expect Gerard or Andrew, who have NO education in any of this, to know that, can we?
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its not "someone", its whole Scientific community!



So lets say you break your leg very bad, so it would need surgery to put the splintered fracture together again with metal and stuff, the way they do this today ... if you think the whole scientific cummunity is bad bogus you would have to refuse medical treatment by a doctor in a hospital because he is part of the big scientific conspiracy ... right ? If you were consequent that the whole scientific community is wrong that you would refuse treatment and live the rest of your life as a cripple without being able to walk very well ... which would of course be terrible if you would have to work on your vegetable field you would like to have as you stated earlier (which is a total fine idea, seriously, nothing wrong with that if thats what you really like).
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With logic like that, it would "make sense" in your world view to stop eating altogether because someone you knew once had food poisoning.

I'd use the "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" analogy, but that example is too diluted to adequately represent the DEPTHS of YOUR STUPIDITY.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Good point. He says that PX is beyond Pluto, but STILL causing warming on Earth? Does he know how FAR Pluto is??
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Apparently not. Jupiter and Saturn would be more likely to have an impact on Earth since they're much closer than "Planet X" and yet neither of them do.

Wasn't it Andrew who, just a few pages ago, said there are no contradictions in ZetaTalk? Wasn't it the "Zetas" who said that "Planet X" has been near the sun for the past six years? So...which is it? Is "Planet X" near the sun? Or is it out past Pluto? It it's out past Pluto, then I would say that contradicts ZetaTalk.
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With logic like that, it would "make sense" in your world view to stop eating altogether because someone you knew once had food poisoning.

I'd use the "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" analogy, but that example is too diluted to adequately represent the DEPTHS of YOUR STUPIDITY.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Considering how adamantly you support ZetaTalk, it's not surprising you think that way. But then, there's no DEPTH to YOUR STUPIDITY.
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With logic like that, it would "make sense" in your world view to stop eating altogether because someone you knew once had food poisoning.

I'd use the "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" analogy, but that example is too diluted to adequately represent the DEPTHS of YOUR STUPIDITY.

Considering how adamantly you support ZetaTalk, it's not surprising you think that way. But then, there's no DEPTH to YOUR STUPIDITY.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Indeed CB, Stupidity that does NOT EXIST has by all logic and reason - NO DEPTH.

Glad to see you are thinking for a change!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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It says you have several degrees in stupidity! this is from your own page! Notice how the lens flare jumps all around the image.



Your page

[link to poleshift.ning.com]


Notice how there is a second sun at the right of the sun.
This is not about the lens flare.
 Quoting: Gerard


But wait... Andrew says PX is out beyond Pluto. How can it be near the Sun AND out beyond Pluto? Are there TWO of them now???
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Gerard's page is here.
[link to poleshift.ning.com]

Thanks ... now I know at least what kind of stoned dutch tard we discuss here.
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Wonder if he has the permission to post a cloud photo by © Ken Prior on his website.
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its not "someone", its whole Scientific community!



So lets say you break your leg very bad, so it would need surgery to put the splintered fracture together again with metal and stuff, the way they do this today ... if you think the whole scientific cummunity is bad bogus you would have to refuse medical treatment by a doctor in a hospital because he is part of the big scientific conspiracy ... right ? If you were consequent that the whole scientific community is wrong that you would refuse treatment and live the rest of your life as a cripple without being able to walk very well ... which would of course be terrible if you would have to work on your vegetable field you would like to have as you stated earlier (which is a total fine idea, seriously, nothing wrong with that if thats what you really like).


With logic like that, it would "make sense" in your world view to stop eating altogether because someone you knew once had food poisoning.

I'd use the "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" analogy, but that example is too diluted to adequately represent the DEPTHS of YOUR STUPIDITY.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Let's put it this way...we have scientists and astronomers who have correctly predicted everything from eclipses to meteor showers to the rising and setting of the sun...and all correctly to the second. One the other hand, we have zetatalk, who Max, Gerard and Andrew would have us believe, which has NEVER ONCE gotten ANYTHING right.

Now...who is stupid?
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this thread needs a reminder of what exactly it purpotes to disprove, the original source, so to say:

ZetaTalk LIVE Chat

Join us with your questions for an interactive discussion with Nancy and the Zetas!

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Starts 7:00 (19:00) EDT, 6:00 (18:00) CDT, 5:00 (17:00) MDT, 4:00 (16:00) PDT, etc.

Note the chat is in the Forum of GodlikeProduction, a pinned thread. There is no Chatroom at GodlikeProduction.

Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat September 26
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I brought this up on Nancy's thread last week. I've been asking you to discuss it, but you keep skipping over it. Why?

Was just looking for the date at which "Zetas" claim Earth is halted, but found this instead:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"Because NASA also has a dilemma in the Earth’s dark twin rounding the bend and coming up behind it in the orbit path they share. This will become visible soon, if not already, and will come close to the Earth before other dramas intervene."


Hmm... Nancy has been claiming that the "Dark Twin" cannot be seen. Hmm... Who is lying, Nancy or "Zetas"? Hmm...

Any of you believers dare to ask about this gaffe?
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yeah,
"stones cannot fall from the sky". they CAN and DO.

The fact that someone was wrong about something, sometime, somewhere, is a silly, meaningless argument.


its not "someone", its whole Scientific community!
 Quoting: andrew


So because at some point in time, some "community" didn't know about asteroids, that means PX is real? You can't be serious.
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Indeed CB, Stupidity that does NOT EXIST has by all logic and reason - NO DEPTH.

Glad to see you are thinking for a change!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

So, in other words, your earlier post applies and the statement about seeking treatment was not stupid at all. Thanks for clearing that up. It means you're thinking and there's hope for you yet.

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its not "someone", its whole Scientific community!



So lets say you break your leg very bad, so it would need surgery to put the splintered fracture together again with metal and stuff, the way they do this today ... if you think the whole scientific cummunity is bad bogus you would have to refuse medical treatment by a doctor in a hospital because he is part of the big scientific conspiracy ... right ? If you were consequent that the whole scientific community is wrong that you would refuse treatment and live the rest of your life as a cripple without being able to walk very well ... which would of course be terrible if you would have to work on your vegetable field you would like to have as you stated earlier (which is a total fine idea, seriously, nothing wrong with that if thats what you really like).


With logic like that, it would "make sense" in your world view to stop eating altogether because someone you knew once had food poisoning.

I'd use the "throwing the baby out with the bathwater" analogy, but that example is too diluted to adequately represent the DEPTHS of YOUR STUPIDITY.


Let's put it this way...we have scientists and astronomers who have correctly predicted everything from eclipses to meteor showers to the rising and setting of the sun...and all correctly to the second. One the other hand, we have zetatalk, who Max, Gerard and Andrew would have us believe, which has NEVER ONCE gotten ANYTHING right.

Now...who is stupid?
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I've never told anybody to "believe" anything!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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this thread needs a reminder of what exactly it purpotes to disprove, the original source, so to say:

ZetaTalk LIVE Chat

Join us with your questions for an interactive discussion with Nancy and the Zetas!

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Starts 7:00 (19:00) EDT, 6:00 (18:00) CDT, 5:00 (17:00) MDT, 4:00 (16:00) PDT, etc.

Note the chat is in the Forum of GodlikeProduction, a pinned thread. There is no Chatroom at GodlikeProduction.

Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat September 26


I brought this up on Nancy's thread last week. I've been asking you to discuss it, but you keep skipping over it. Why?

Was just looking for the date at which "Zetas" claim Earth is halted, but found this instead:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"Because NASA also has a dilemma in the Earth’s dark twin rounding the bend and coming up behind it in the orbit path they share. This will become visible soon, if not already, and will come close to the Earth before other dramas intervene."


Hmm... Nancy has been claiming that the "Dark Twin" cannot be seen. Hmm... Who is lying, Nancy or "Zetas"? Hmm...

Any of you believers dare to ask about this gaffe?
 Quoting: Menow 405501


I note that ws written FIVE and A HALF YEARS AGO...wonder what's become of Nancy's imaginary "Dark Twin" that was supposed to smash us in the ass years ago?
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its not "someone", its whole Scientific community!

Ah, yes, there we go again...the entire scientific community is wrong, but Andrew alone is right...all without any scientific education or experience.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


yes, the whole scientific community was wrong in XIX century about meteorites and coined their ignorance in a statement that "stones cannot fall from the sky".

[link to www.mysteriousnewzealand.com]

and from another:

this is a phrase well-kmown in Russian-speaking world, which represents a classic "scientific" approach:

This could not be, because this can not be ever possible.

it appeared in Anton Chekhov's (1860-1904) short story "Letter to the academic neighbor":

"You wrote in your wise story, as Gerasim told me, that supposedly there are tiny dark spots on the greatest luminary, our Sun. This could not be, because this can not be ever possible. How could you see spots on the sun if one cannot look at it with naked human eyes, and what are those spots for? What wet substance are they made of that they do not burn? Maybe, according to you, fish also live on the sun? But excuse me for such harsh words! for i am strongly devoted to science".
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Indeed CB, Stupidity that does NOT EXIST has by all logic and reason - NO DEPTH.

Glad to see you are thinking for a change!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Spin away...spin away. It's not surprising considering the depth of your stupidity.
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its not "someone", its whole Scientific community!

Ah, yes, there we go again...the entire scientific community is wrong, but Andrew alone is right...all without any scientific education or experience.


yes, the whole scientific community was wrong in XIX century about meteorites and coined their ignorance in a statement that "stones cannot fall from the sky".

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Can you name ONE astronomical claim or prediction that zetatalk has EVER gotten right?
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Gerard's page is here.
[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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From a shc20 member posting on his site:

Thanks Gerard,
And thank you for starting this site. It's time for those of us in the "know" to get to know each other. I have seen your posts on the Saturday chat. I have seen how you've been attacked by the naysayers. I asked one question once and Menow attacked me without even knowing who I am. The debunkers on GLP seem to be very frightened. They attack anyone who doesn't think "all is normal and as it should be". I am looking forward to discussing what needs to be done in the aftertime and how to survive the shift.
Thanks again Gerard.
Lorrie

Typical cult behaviour "we are in the know" = we are superiour to other humans (especially those ones with a brain bigger than a walnut, hehehe).
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its not "someone", its whole Scientific community!

Ah, yes, there we go again...the entire scientific community is wrong, but Andrew alone is right...all without any scientific education or experience.


yes, the whole scientific community was wrong in XIX century about meteorites and coined their ignorance in a statement that "stones cannot fall from the sky".

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The difference is that science is constantly correcting itself. Nancy has NEVER admitted that she's always wrong.
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yes, the whole scientific community was wrong in XIX century about meteorites and coined their ignorance in a statement that "stones cannot fall from the sky".
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But, we're not talking about the XIX century now are we? Gee, wasn't it you that claimed "debunkers" were guilty of spinning?
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Can you name ONE astronomical claim or prediction that zetatalk has EVER gotten right?
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I'll ask again.....

any bunker takers?
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This thread needs no reminder of what exactly it disproves, the original source, so to say:

ZetaTalk LIVE Chat

Join us with your questions for an interactive discussion about Nancy and the Zetas!

Starts 7:00 (19:00) EDT, 6:00 (18:00) CDT, 5:00 (17:00) MDT, 4:00 (16:00) PDT, etc.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


you mean

ZetaTalk LIVE Chat

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat September 26

right?

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Yes, you're right...this thread does disprove ZetaTalk Live. Glad to see you're finally coming around. Why don't you spend more time supporting Nancy's thread by, oh, I don't know...posting there?

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this thread needs a reminder of what exactly it purpotes to disprove, the original source, so to say:

ZetaTalk LIVE Chat

Join us with your questions for an interactive discussion with Nancy and the Zetas!

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Starts 7:00 (19:00) EDT, 6:00 (18:00) CDT, 5:00 (17:00) MDT, 4:00 (16:00) PDT, etc.

Note the chat is in the Forum of GodlikeProduction, a pinned thread. There is no Chatroom at GodlikeProduction.

Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat September 26


I brought this up on Nancy's thread last week. I've been asking you to discuss it, but you keep skipping over it. Why?

Was just looking for the date at which "Zetas" claim Earth is halted, but found this instead:

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"Because NASA also has a dilemma in the Earth’s dark twin rounding the bend and coming up behind it in the orbit path they share. This will become visible soon, if not already, and will come close to the Earth before other dramas intervene."


Hmm... Nancy has been claiming that the "Dark Twin" cannot be seen. Hmm... Who is lying, Nancy or "Zetas"? Hmm...

Any of you believers dare to ask about this gaffe?


I note that ws written FIVE and A HALF YEARS AGO...wonder what's become of Nancy's imaginary "Dark Twin" that was supposed to smash us in the ass years ago?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 719433


The "Dark Twin" is a real thorn in Nancy's side. I bring it up to her periodically. She wont have "Zetas" answer my questions about it. She makes up some bullshit about how light only reflects back in the directions from which it came, and that the "Dark Twin" is made of "black rock" and so can't be seen. However, that bit of Zetatalk flies right in the face of her claim that it couldn't be seen as it approached. Check out that bit where I posted that question on her chat previous to the last one. Start on page 10. She obfuscates my point by talking about when it was allegedly imaged in January of 2003(?). Then she says it couldn't be seen anymore, but "Zetas" said it WOULD BECOME VISIBLE after the 3-month point. I may present it to "Zetas" again when I have time and see if I can get Nancy to LET them answer rather than her dodges.
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Wow. I see that 'Andrew' spent his weekend parroting Nancy's ludicrous spew.

Now the Zidiots are claiming the Earth is halted in its orbit?

Damn, that's hilarious. Until you realize that these people (presumably) have the right to vote and sit on juries and drive.

There outght to be an established Minimum Level of Intelligence which would allow Lieder's followers (all 8 of them) to keep believing whatever nonsense they wish, but also keep them from affecting society except perhaps as comic relief.

The Earth is halted! The Dark Twin is inbound! The Red Persona is bobbling, lol!

There are few things more amusing than crazies in full bloom.
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yes, the whole scientific community was wrong in XIX century about meteorites and coined their ignorance in a statement that "stones cannot fall from the sky".

[link to www.mysteriousnewzealand.com]
 Quoting: andrew


Yes, they were wrong then, exept a few who thought out of the box, but still in the limits of known physical laws ... but as soon they had telescope they found out there were meteorites and agreed upon that, even the skeptics, because there was PROOF ... and then all began to research them.

Nancys claims are far out of all physical laws that are and even though we have the finest possible telescopes today she can't prove shit about her claims. So there is obviously a vast conspiracy ongoing in the NASA, the other official "skywatchers" with huge equipment and hundreds of thousands amateur astronomers, some with really good telescopes. So I cuess this conspiracy must involve at least a few hundred thousand people.
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Gerard's page is here.
[link to poleshift.ning.com]


From a shc20 member posting on his site:

Thanks Gerard,
And thank you for starting this site. It's time for those of us in the "know" to get to know each other. I have seen your posts on the Saturday chat. I have seen how you've been attacked by the naysayers. I asked one question once and Menow attacked me without even knowing who I am. The debunkers on GLP seem to be very frightened. They attack anyone who doesn't think "all is normal and as it should be". I am looking forward to discussing what needs to be done in the aftertime and how to survive the shift.
Thanks again Gerard.
Lorrie

Typical cult behaviour "we are in the know" = we are superiour to other humans (especially those ones with a brain bigger than a walnut, hehehe).
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Heh. Somebody posts that they think the Sun is not where it belongs and I might say: "And you know this how?" They then characterize that as an "attack". Heh.
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Until you realize that these people (presumably) have the right to vote and sit on juries and drive.
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Right ... they are a menace to society, like scientology and other groups (although shc20 is not big and never was really big).

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