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Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!

 
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I worked in the Scientific Community and Government for many, many years and know that if the government's lips are moving they are telling lies. If there is money being spent the least qualified and least beneficial product is being promoted. And if someone of integrity and promise is involved they will be marginalized and removed from making any significant impact for the good. These are the Scientific Rules I have learned (they are inviolate) and this is not fiction.
 Quoting: George B

The same thing can apply to one Nancy Lieder.
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everything except last weeks signs happened exactly like ZetaTalk predicted
 Quoting: andrew

That's not what Nancy and the "Zetas" were saying in April and May of 2003. Only after the dates fail did they come up with the "white lie"....and that was just so gullible people, such as yourself, would continue believing them/Nancy.
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So do I.

I like how you keep saying you're a fence sitter when it's obvious you aren't.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

I'm not "shitting" anyone!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Max, your actions put you firmly in the Zeta camp whether you care to admit it or not.

Even your av and the items in your posts make your membership in the Zeta club plain. Zeta this, Zeta, that, the way you plaster ZETAS RIGHT AGAIN crap whenever you perceive (wrongly, by the way) that some minor tidbit of ZT manages to be correct -- why not just drop the pretense and 'come out' about you Zidiocy?

We all know you're a ZT shill anyway. Come on. At least be honest about it.
The Lone Ranger (OP)

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I keep meaning ask Gerard and Andrew if being a Sixth Dimensional STO special incarnate from a higher density comes with a cape and maybe a mask.

Because that would rock.
 Quoting: Returner 997


I understand that Ms LIEDer has had this long running special offer on her website. You purchase her
CD twinset of lectures for $25 including shipping and handling in the US. Add $1 for shipping to Canada, or $5 for oversea shipping. and in doing so the Cape and(if needed) a Mask are thrown in as a free bonus.

superman superman superman superman superman
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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Ooo! Hours of Nancy 'lecturing' and a cape and mask?

Who could resist such an offer!

I hear that if you play the lecture outside with the screen pointed directly towards the North Star, the Zetas will emerge from the pumpkin patch at the stroke of midnight . . . wait, no, wrong imaginary entity.
The Lone Ranger (OP)

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Max, your actions put you firmly in the Zeta camp whether you care to admit it or not.

Even your av and the items in your posts make your membership in the Zeta club plain. Zeta this, Zeta, that, the way you plaster ZETAS RIGHT AGAIN crap whenever you perceive (wrongly, by the way) that some minor tidbit of ZT manages to be correct -- why not just drop the pretense and 'come out' about you Zidiocy?

We all know you're a ZT shill anyway. Come on. At least be honest about it.
 Quoting: Returner 997


Max is exactly as stubborn as Nancy is when overwhelming evidence of proof is given to debunk their said claims.

Being honest is apparently something that Max is incapable of doing.
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I hear that if you play the lecture outside with the screen pointed directly towards the North Star, the Zetas will emerge from the pumpkin patch at the stroke of midnight . . . wait, no, wrong imaginary entity.
 Quoting: Returner 997


:Ha:
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I keep meaning ask Gerard and Andrew if being a Sixth Dimensional STO special incarnate from a higher density comes with a cape and maybe a mask.

Because that would rock.


I understand that Ms LIEDer has had this long running special offer on her website. You purchase her
CD twinset of lectures for $25 including shipping and handling in the US. Add $1 for shipping to Canada, or $5 for oversea shipping. and in doing so the Cape and(if needed) a Mask are thrown in as a free bonus.

superman superman superman superman superman
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger



What a stupid question. Starchildren or wanderers just look like you and me.

From the Law of One channelings
[link to www.lawofone.info]

ZetaTalk Starchildren
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
The Lone Ranger (OP)

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So do I.

I like how you keep saying you're a fence sitter when it's obvious you aren't.

I'm not "shitting" anyone!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Hey Melfy remember it was you who first called yourself a Fence Shitter!!

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Zetas RIGHT Again!

simply face it! cool2
 Quoting: andrew

No. They're wrong. Face it!
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The Lone Ranger (OP)

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What a stupid question. Starchildren or wanderers just look like you and me.
 Quoting: gerard 754094


Wanderers?

Heck Loneranger is wandering all the time about the sanity of you zetababble believers.

Therefore that qualifies Loneranger as a wanderer.

awesome I feel so Special already!!!!!!!
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ZetaTalk is something like a revelation from those who know better - and it is up to we, humans, make it a theory and try to prove / disprove it
 Quoting: andrew

Okay. So then prove it. So far, you haven't.
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09/28/2009 05:17 PM
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What a stupid question. Starchildren or wanderers just look like you and me.

From the Law of One channelings
[link to www.lawofone.info]

ZetaTalk Starchildren
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: gerard 754094


From your first link, random quote:

Ra: I am Ra. This information could be harmful. We withhold it. Please attempt to view the entities about you as part of the Creator. We can explain no further.
 Quoting: Ra


What the fuck is this shit Gerald ... and why does that fag say "I am Ra" in front of every sentence.

Man, you must have real good dope doen there in the Netherlands ... seriously Gerald, you got more than one screw loose.
The Lone Ranger (OP)

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This thread needs a reminder of what exactly it purports to disprove, the original source, so to say:

Debunker Talk LIVE Chat

Join us with your questions for an interactive discussion about Nancy and the Zetas!

Starts 7:00 (19:00) EDT, 6:00 (18:00) CDT, 5:00 (17:00) MDT, 4:00 (16:00) PDT, etc.

Here, you can freely ask questions about anything Nancy and the "Zetas" say without it being ignored and later deleted because the answer was too difficult or disproves ZetaTalk. Nor do we ban people for asking such questions.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Big_smile
Life Is But A Dream!!
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What a stupid question. Starchildren or wanderers just look like you and me.

From the Law of One channelings
[link to www.lawofone.info]

ZetaTalk Starchildren
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Gerald


Why to ALL of these freakpages look like they were made in the 90s ? I know they were ... but all of them look really amateurish ... should someone like Ra himself not be able to have a stylish website.

And btw: I am AC
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Questioner: Can you tell me who was responsible for transmitting the book Oahspe?

Ra: I am Ra. This was transmitted by one of Confederation social memory complex status whose idea, as offered to the Council, was to use some of the known physical history of the so-called religions or religious distortions of your cycle in order to veil and partially unveil aspects or primal distortions of the Law of One. All names can be taken to be created for their vibrational characteristics. The information buried within has to do with a deeper understanding of love and light, and the attempts of infinite intelligence through many messengers to teach/learn those entities of your sphere.
 Quoting: Ra



I am AC, ... this rabbit whole goes deeper and deeper ... and I thought the catholocs were crazy ... seriously ... I mean, I'm interested in shamanism and read A LOT of spiritual stuff ... and liked much of it, like Krishnamurti for example ... but this is to much ... duuude.
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Zetas or not, a pretty good showing for Nancy.


Where is ZetaMax??

hf

Trying to keep the debunkers pathetic thread from getting too divorced from reality.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


:say_what: there, Melfy?

You surely do not want to go there with the reality spin do ya?

So there you have it folks the self proclaimed Fence Shitter states that the Debunkers are divorced from reality while the reality that Ms LIEDer and Zetatalk share is the reality the rest of the world is experiencing.

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Just wanted to say ... I had a good friend who commited suicide over crap like this ... he was into Aleister Crowley and more the occult stuff ... finally went nuts, began to hear voices ... shaved his head and soon thereafter laid that same head on the rails so the train crushed it ... no kidding ... You people can believe what you want ... but please dont indoctrinate others.
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signing off!

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

educate yourselves about Chances of Collision according to Zeta theory of cellestial physics!

what a wrenching word battle was that! whew!
 Quoting: andrew

Perhaps you should do the same at some sites OTHER than ZetaTalk. After all, if you're an independent thinker, you shouldn't rely on only one source.
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Ra
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Perhaps you should do the same at some sites OTHER than ZetaTalk. After all, if you're an independent thinker, you shouldn't rely on only one source.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Ra: I am Ra, yeah Andrew come over here: [link to www.lawofone.info] there are plenty more pituitary retards you can hang out with in a wonderful land of fairytales.

Sry, couldn't resist.
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You have to wait to know whether Earth is halted in orbit or not??

Interesting Question . . . I am not an expert in orbital mechanics, astronomy or physics . . . however, I have read many of the excerpts from ZetaTalk and they always seem to lower or raise the Earth above or below the ecliptic and have technology to tilt the earth this way and that to simulate proper position of the constellations and seasons, etc. What do I know? Seems impossible to me . . . but you have to admit they come up with some of the most amusing explanations for our inability to debunk Nancy's insistence that the Earth is stalled in its orbit of the Sun.
 Quoting: George B


Inability to debunk?? You mean that no matter what evidence is presented, Nancy and her followers refuse to accept it... THAT "inability to debunk"?

It is pathetically easy to find out if Earth is "tilted" or "halted". All denials of that are simply incomprehensible to anyone who knows astronomy.
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The Mayans issued a statement warning that the window of devastating change extended beyond 2012 to 2015.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

So this means what? You won't give up on ZetaTalk until 2015?
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Er... no, it must occur by "shortly after May 15, 2003". If you accept that excuse, why not accept ANY excuse for ANY failure including 2012?

I understand your statement above. If I were following Nancy in 2000 I would have been most confused. Seems many found her statement of "the little white lie" as being total bull. However, somehow she seems like the Ever Ready (Energizer) Bunny. She just keeps marching along. One has to admit she is either totally deranged, being manipulated by persons unknown to spread misinformation, making too much money to stop, or thinks she is doing the right thing and may or may not be spreading falsehoods. You seem to have made up your mind and feel compelled to use considerable energy and effort to debunk her. I respect your position. However, I am fascinated by the process and will continue to follow the process until I am too convinced this is a waste of time.
 Quoting: George B


Oh, it's not a waste of time. It's HIGHLY entertaining. Now... "You think she may not be spreading falsehoods"?? Surely you jest. How many would you like as examples?
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Holy crap! I had a package of plain M&M candies on my desk, and I opened it just now, and *one of the candies lacks the characteristic imprint of the M.*

Can I please attribute this to intervention by a group of advanced extraterrestrials and start my own mail-order cult?

Are there forms I need to fill out?

Oh and Max, do you need another cause to promote? I'll probably offer dental and maybe some profit-sharing...
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I keep meaning ask Gerard and Andrew if being a Sixth Dimensional STO special incarnate from a higher density comes with a cape and maybe a mask.

Because that would rock.


I understand that Ms LIEDer has had this long running special offer on her website. You purchase her
CD twinset of lectures for $25 including shipping and handling in the US. Add $1 for shipping to Canada, or $5 for oversea shipping. and in doing so the Cape and(if needed) a Mask are thrown in as a free bonus.

superman superman superman superman superman



What a stupid question. Starchildren or wanderers just look like you and me.

From the Law of One channelings
[link to www.lawofone.info]

ZetaTalk Starchildren
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: gerard 754094


So, Gerard, do you still believe that PX was imaged incoming at Nancy's coords in 2002?
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I'm not "shitting" anyone!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

I didn't say you were. Anyway, is this an admittance that you're no longer a fence sitter?

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Come on, ZetaMax -- tell the truth!

It will set you free.

Well, not really, but you'll be at least 29% cooler.
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Come on, ZetaMax -- tell the truth!
 Quoting: Returner 997


I dont know all about Zetamax history, but he is one who doesnt believe Nancy with his whole heart ... I think it might be entertainment for him ... you guys longer here maybe know better ... but for Andrew there is not much hope ... he's gone full blown cooo cooo.
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Gerard said:

"What a stupid question. Starchildren or wanderers just look like you and me."

Hey, Ascended One, that's pretty harsh. You like totally killed my self-esteem buzz, man.

I was just so sure you got a cape or at least a mask. I mean you navigated the surging quantum flux that lies in the Spaces Between the Spaces, you walked the Path That Has No Name, and you faced the Absolute Abyss, and you don't even get a lousy cape?

No wonder you're testy. Peace out, brother. Eschew the harsh. Embrace the groovy.

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