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The Mayans issued a statement??? They have an active PR department even though their civilization ended centuries ago?
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Apparently.

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BTW, Nancy doesn't even believe that the Moon rotates on
it's own axis, as this illustration clearly shows it does:

Moonspin

It has to rotate on it's own axis in order to maintain the
same face towards Earth in it's tidal lock.
 Quoting: DrPostman


One has to seriously wonder sometimes just what does tick in that brain of Ms LIEDer's. I mean you even provide a basic animation, DrPostman, that even puts the issue beyond doubt.

Come on Nancy stop being so ignorant of facts and just be open minded to the reality that you get things wrong.

You may win some much needed friends.
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Thats too bad

Stuck on something is the farthest you ever stepped out
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paid_shill
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Geez Melfy can you please stop using such derogatory lies that are clearly exaggerations on your part.

Thankyou!!

nanu_nanu
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Geez Melfy can you please stop using such derogatory lies that are clearly exaggerations on your part.

Thankyou!!

nanu_nanu
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger



Now now, you know that if you eliminate stupid comments and bald faced lies from MaxiSockyMelfy's comments he would be mute.
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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(There’s been a lot of posting here today.
I hope these discussions prove valuable to all)

I would by lying to myself if i said no. So yes, i believe it was imaged.

Too bad for you, and Nancy, that her very own imaging expert has come forward to say that it wasn't.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker



I would not call myself an "imaging expert" then or now.
But as someone who worked with those fits files in 2002/2003, I will say that those telescope images did not capture anything that can be realistically called proof.

We captured a lot of "noise", any piece of which could be pointed to as PX.

But the best evidence is;
If it wasn’t where it was supposed to be in May 2003, how could it have been where we were pointing the telescope in 2002?

Planets don’t vanish. The planet wasn’t there to begin with.

That IS the only logical explanation.



We were conned, and a lesson learned for those of us gullible enough to believe it. That we should be more discerning in the future.

And the con job took in a lot of people, some of whom still buy into it, even though the planet never showed.

I have no doubt that in years ahead, PX 2003 and Zetatalk will be remembered as one of the biggest internet hoaxes ever.

And we have to give credit where credit is due. When a leader is able to convince those remaining to buy into the lie that ignores the failed prediction of 2003, the science of this whole matter, and still follow that leader. That is the sign of a damn good con artist.



I cannot say that Planet Niburu exists or doesn't exist.
There isn’t much evidence to support its existence, but it could.

I can say with some certainty that, based on the evidence, Planet Niburu is nowhere near the inner solar system at this time.

But, I’m not an “expert” ;o)


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I worked in the Scientific Community and Government for many, many years and know that if the government's lips are moving they are telling lies. If there is money being spent the least qualified and least beneficial product is being promoted. And if someone of integrity and promise is involved they will be marginalized and removed from making any significant impact for the good. These are the Scientific Rules I have learned (they are inviolate) and this is not fiction.
 Quoting: George B

If that is your experience, then crackpot is a good description for you.

paranoid!
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yes, the whole scientific community was wrong in XIX century about meteorites and coined their ignorance in a statement that "stones cannot fall from the sky".

But, we're not talking about the XIX century now are we? Gee, wasn't it you that claimed "debunkers" were guilty of spinning?


how and why should this be any different in XX cen?

You have not even a clue how much knowledge you DONT have.


so does our science and you with it.

but there are intelligent races in the Universe who Do know more. Zetas among them.
 Quoting: andrew


But even these obviously cant solve (humans can)


Nancy ace will tell rueful of being historic as moon renders or receiver traces almighty popcorn trips monday night to Zetamax Mercury swing repulsions
#-------------------------------
And WHOEVER solves this, he may NOT publish the solution, but just tell he got it, and may supply a proof by coding something the same way.
159 days ZT not solved
1 debunker solvers accepted (Oldsmobile)
#-------------------------------
Hints will be provided every 25 days
Hint No. 1: The riddle CAN be solved, and you WILL know if your solution is right. (everybody doing it can be proud)
Hint No. 2: Where did the riddle appear first? (everybody doing it should be proud)
Hint No. 3: Its no chiffre. It IS decribed in encryption history - but not available on the net (everybody doing it was diligent)
Hint No. 4: The riddle is easy. (everybody doing it can think)
Hint No. 5: The riddle is stegano. (everybody doing it may cry)
Hint No. 6 : You are thinking too difficult (everybody doing it will cry)
I decided to extend the schedule for next hints. (+ 50 days) Next after 200 days.
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Dark Twin was never supposed to crash with Earth, nor could it - planets of large size, of approximately the same size and large cannot simply collide - Repulsion Force would prevent this.

That's not what Nancy and the "Zetas" said. You contradict them again.


The gravitational force exists first. It is the static condition. The repulsion phenomena only manifests when, as we said, the objects are of equal size, are free to move, and dominate the immediate environment. Where the repulsion force comes to equal the force of gravity by the time the objects in play would make contact, it builds at a rate that differs from gravity.

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WOULD
 Quoting: andrew

you are so stupid that you dont even understand the consequence of said "would".
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Zetas RIGHT Again !


[link to www.redorbit.com]

Zetas wrong ... again and again and again.


Zetas RIGHT Again!

simply face it! cool2
 Quoting: andrew

totally impossible.

To be right AGAIN they must be first right, then a second time right.

But we still wait for the first one....
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Science NEVER claims to "know all".


but acts accordingly. ALWAYS
 Quoting: andrew

Even THAT is wrong, stupid.

FOR WHAT is "Research" ind science????

Did they stop to do it?

maaan, you are really a pain in the a...
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And from those two statements, whay can't to planets hit together?


there it is - Chances of Collision

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: andrew

Zetatalk equals Bullshit - face it.

Piles of....
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The 'Repulsion Force' is just another piece of MADE-UP BULLSHIT!!!

You can't use one unproven theory in support of another unproven theory Andrew, you incredible DORK!!!

Andrew has LOST so many times on this thread it's becoming pathetic.
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Andrew, nobody censored you, it is an autocensor. The same thing happened to me. I posted the words P (word starting with P which is synonymous with Jail) Planet and the bot changed it to agent provocateur. I assume it is because a certain whacko has a website with that same name. You visit this site enough to know that certain terms will automatically be censored, yet you jump immediately to the conclusion that someone is out to get you. Paranoia is another trait of cult followers.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

But paranoit crackpot andrew in the first hand assumed that the government had a paid agent sitting in GLP observing his posts (3-shift a day) and immediadely is changing/editing his posts......

I knew there are stupids in the world, i didnt knew they where that extreme....
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You have to wait to know whether Earth is halted in orbit or not??

Interesting Question . . . I am not an expert in orbital mechanics, astronomy or physics . . . however, I have read many of the excerpts from ZetaTalk and they always seem to lower or raise the Earth above or below the ecliptic and have technology to tilt the earth this way and that to simulate proper position of the constellations and seasons, etc. What do I know? Seems impossible to me . . . but you have to admit they come up with some of the most amusing explanations for our inability to debunk Nancy's insistence that the Earth is stalled in its orbit of the Sun.
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ohmigod, let brain fall from the sky.....

lots of it.
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And when 2012 comes as goes with no more than the usual complement of mayhem and a distinct lack of any pole shifts or mystery planets in the skies, Nancy Lieder will isuue a statement stating "Gosh, guess I was wrong, couldn't ya just kick me?"

Yeah right. When 2012 passes, they'll start talking about 2020 or 2019 or whatever number is next in line in the Woo Woo Hit Parade...

The Mayans issued a statement warning that the window of devastating change extended beyond 2012 to 2015.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

backpedalling in full swing.

Trying to get three more years?
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So do I.

I like how you keep saying you're a fence sitter when it's obvious you aren't.

I'm not "shitting" anyone!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

So, where, do you mean, comes all the bullshit from???
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I knew there are stupids in the world, i didnt knew they where that extreme....
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Have a look at Gerards forum then:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

They are full blown crazy !
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I knew there are stupids in the world, i didnt knew they where that extreme....



Have a look at Gerards forum then:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

They are full blown crazy !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 781477



And these are the ones planning to repopulate the earth after their non existing pole-shit ... mother of god.
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And these are the ones planning to repopulate the earth after their non existing pole-shit ... mother of god.
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Just one example of their mindset:

The other reason I think I was banned is I told the truth: how I found out I am a sixth density wanderer, that I am a lifetime Zeta contactee, that I know which two movie stars are on my team (don't know exactly what we are going to do and I will not name them) and how I basically became enlightened (I am awake). I am also pro-Obama and that is a big NO-NO on GLP now.
 Quoting: Stupid dude on Gerards forum
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I knew there are stupids in the world, i didnt knew they where that extreme....



Have a look at Gerards forum then:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

They are full blown crazy !



And these are the ones planning to repopulate the earth after their non existing pole-shit ... mother of god.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 781477


Most of them probably haven't achieved sexual maturity yet!
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I knew there are stupids in the world, i didnt knew they where that extreme....



Have a look at Gerards forum then:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

They are full blown crazy !



And these are the ones planning to repopulate the earth after their non existing pole-shit ... mother of god.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 781477

no problem, they will get lost in a telephone boot.
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Geez Melfy can you please stop using such derogatory lies that are clearly exaggerations on your part.

Thankyou!!

nanu_nanu
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


It was an accidental "mis"-posting.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

ZetaMax
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And these are the ones planning to repopulate the earth after their non existing pole-shit ... mother of god.


Just one example of their mindset:


The other reason I think I was banned is I told the truth: how I found out I am a sixth density wanderer, that I am a lifetime Zeta contactee, that I know which two movie stars are on my team (don't know exactly what we are going to do and I will not name them) and how I basically became enlightened (I am awake). I am also pro-Obama and that is a big NO-NO on GLP now.

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Gerard's web site is Delusion Central!
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And these are the ones planning to repopulate the earth after their non existing pole-shit ... mother of god.


Just one example of their mindset:


The other reason I think I was banned is I told the truth: how I found out I am a sixth density wanderer, that I am a lifetime Zeta contactee, that I know which two movie stars are on my team (don't know exactly what we are going to do and I will not name them) and how I basically became enlightened (I am awake). I am also pro-Obama and that is a big NO-NO on GLP now.



Gerard's web site is Delusion Central!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 782183

I think it is an honest and humble sharing.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

ZetaMax
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And these are the ones planning to repopulate the earth after their non existing pole-shit ... mother of god.


Just one example of their mindset:


The other reason I think I was banned is I told the truth: how I found out I am a sixth density wanderer, that I am a lifetime Zeta contactee, that I know which two movie stars are on my team (don't know exactly what we are going to do and I will not name them) and how I basically became enlightened (I am awake). I am also pro-Obama and that is a big NO-NO on GLP now.



Gerard's web site is Delusion Central!

I think it is an honest and humble sharing.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

just matching the other big piles of bullshit.
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I would not call myself an "imaging expert" then or now.
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You're right. I don't even think Nancy referred to you as her "imaging expert." I should have said, "a member of her own imaging team."

But the best evidence is;
If it wasn’t where it was supposed to be in May 2003, how could it have been where we were pointing the telescope in 2002?

Planets don’t vanish. The planet wasn’t there to begin with.

That IS the only logical explanation.

We were conned, and a lesson learned for those of us gullible enough to believe it. That we should be more discerning in the future.
 Quoting: J.William Dell

Ah, but people like ZetaMax would like you to believe this is all part of the "white lie" which, as most of us know, was supposedly implemented to force the government to "show its hand." But, for those of us that can think, it's obvious the "white lie" was nothing but an excuse. Why? Because throughout March, April and May, Nancy insisted that "Planet X" was coming...and that signs of its arrival had all come true such as rotation slowing, imploding buildings and weather events. However, one could simply observe for themselves and see that rotation wasn't slowing at all...sunrise and sunset times were at the same times as they were the year before. The buildings Nancy claimed imploded hadn't actually done any such thing...they simply collapsed from structural failure. And the extreme weather could be attributed to other factors all having nothing to do with some "rogue planet." But she continued to insist it was coming even though one important event hadn't come true...and that was "Planet X" being "undeniable in the sky." Based on previous ZetaTalk, that should have happened in April of 2003...but didn't. So, I asked Nancy if she was sure the "pole shift" was going to happen because "Planet X" was nowhere to be seen. I also asked her what she did to verify the many reports being sent to her because, based on my observations, nothing she claimed was actually happening. And that's when I got labeled a "government agent" and told to go "drown in the pole shift." So, if I and many others could see that "Planet X" wasn't here and none of the other precursors had come true...what makes Nancy or any of her followers think the government wouldn't have been smart enough to figure it out as well?


And the con job took in a lot of people, some of whom still buy into it, even though the planet never showed.
 Quoting: J.William Dell

And continues to be a no show.

And we have to give credit where credit is due. When a leader is able to convince those remaining to buy into the lie that ignores the failed prediction of 2003, the science of this whole matter, and still follow that leader. That is the sign of a damn good con artist.
 Quoting: J.William Dell

Or just incredibly gullible people.

I cannot say that Planet Niburu exists or doesn't exist.
There isn’t much evidence to support its existence, but it could.
 Quoting: J.William Dell

And many "debunkers" have said it's possible that Niburu exists....it just doesn't exist the way Nancy describes it.

I can say with some certainty that, based on the evidence, Planet Niburu is nowhere near the inner solar system at this time.

But, I’m not an "expert"


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Perhaps not an expert, but you have a lot of knowledge and insight having been fairly involved with ZetaTlak in the past.

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(There’s been a lot of posting here today.
I hope these discussions prove valuable to all)



I would by lying to myself if i said no. So yes, i believe it was imaged.

Too bad for you, and Nancy, that her very own imaging expert has come forward to say that it wasn't.



I would not call myself an "imaging expert" then or now.
 Quoting: J.William Dell


Perhaps not, but NANCY called you that in an effort to promote her story that PX had been imaged at her coords.

But as someone who worked with those fits files in 2002/2003, I will say that those telescope images did not capture anything that can be realistically called proof.
 Quoting: J.William Dell


One of the questions Nancy can't stand to deal with is: Where is the magnitude 10-11 object you predicted?

We captured a lot of "noise", any piece of which could be pointed to as PX.
 Quoting: J.William Dell


Exactly.

But the best evidence is;
If it wasn’t where it was supposed to be in May 2003, how could it have been where we were pointing the telescope in 2002?

Planets don’t vanish. The planet wasn’t there to begin with.

That IS the only logical explanation.



We were conned, and a lesson learned for those of us gullible enough to believe it. That we should be more discerning in the future.

And the con job took in a lot of people, some of whom still buy into it, even though the planet never showed.

I have no doubt that in years ahead, PX 2003 and Zetatalk will be remembered as one of the biggest internet hoaxes ever.

And we have to give credit where credit is due. When a leader is able to convince those remaining to buy into the lie that ignores the failed prediction of 2003, the science of this whole matter, and still follow that leader. That is the sign of a damn good con artist.



I cannot say that Planet Niburu exists or doesn't exist.
There isn’t much evidence to support its existence, but it could.

I can say with some certainty that, based on the evidence, Planet Niburu is nowhere near the inner solar system at this time.

But, I’m not an “expert” ;o)


Kindest Regards
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So where is Andrew today? I thought he was going to support his claim of "No contradictions in Zetatalk". I only presented the very first one in a long list and he seems to have run away.

Heh.
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I had to let my dog out at 12:18 AM last night, and much to my surprise the Sun was out, the Moon was showing the Far Side, Jupiter was seated in one of my lawn chairs, and a body I believe to be Planet X was rummaging around inside my tool shed. I never actually saw Planet X, although it did seem to be peeking out around the door.

Can someone send this report to Nancy? I believe it constitutes additional evidence that ZetaTalk is in fact a very important repository (not suppository) of knowledge about these ever-incoming End Days.

By the way, I'm a seventh-density Jedi Reincarnated Snow-Cone machine, and that alone should impress the heck out of any babes present.

Peace out.