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Gerard's web site is Delusion Central!

I think it is an honest and humble sharing.
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You would, because you are a delusional crank.
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So where is Andrew today? I thought he was going to support his claim of "No contradictions in Zetatalk". I only presented the very first one in a long list and he seems to have run away.

Heh.
 Quoting: Menow 405501

I'm still waiting for Max to present his evidence to support his claims about the palm frond in Alaska. So far, he's provided nothing...doing as he usually does...stalling long enough until everyone forgets about it.
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I'll make a prediction here -- the 'proof' of the palm frond will consist of '...my second cousin's old roomate's mechanic's sister-in-law's hairdresser's landlord's uncle' read something about on the interwebs.

Cue Zeta Victory Dance.
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DrPostman posted this the other day. He's right...this can sum up Nancy and her many claims very well. Just substitute creationist with ZetaTalk.

scicreat
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So where is Andrew today? I thought he was going to support his claim of "No contradictions in Zetatalk". I only presented the very first one in a long list and he seems to have run away.

Heh.
 Quoting: Menow 405501


Ra: I am Ra, Andrew got some serious spanking yesterday and his voices in the head are saying the hidden hand on GLP alters his posts in some wicked way.
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Ra, do you perhaps have a brother named Ra Ra, who is the Egyptian god of slightly crooked sticks and rhyming cheers?

Perhaps the Yellow Persona of PX was changing Andrew's posts. You know how the Yellow Persona enjoys a small jest. It's still laughing about braiding Saturn's rings.
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Andrew stated, without apparent guilt:

"...planets of large size, of approximately the same size and large cannot simply collide - Repulsion Force would prevent this."

Winner of the Most Profoundly Stupid Post on the Entire Internet for This Day.

Gravity, Andrew baby. Look it up. Repulsion Force? <cue laughter>


Repilsion Force - [link to www.zetatalk.com]

Science section - [link to www.zetatalk.com]

hf
 Quoting: andrew



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So Nancy, "repulsion" plagiarized or Zetamax's rehash, which version are you going for now?


Why Planet X slows as it nears one of its suns, the slowing influences, and why it assumes a sharp angle as it passes through the solar system, not lining up with the other planets in the Ecliptic. What factor the gravity repulsion force plays, and mathematical proof of the repulsion force during sci.astro debate on what holds the Moon up in the sky.


There was no "proof" just more of "Nancy's Fancy", however it's interesting to note that Nancy's "repulsion Force" was plagiarized from an Indian (from India) idiot who formed the wacky idea in the 1980's, have a look and you will also see why there is almost no mention of him, the rest of his views while wacky are not in line with Nancy and her zetas.

[link to www.strepulsion.org]
THE LIST OF THE RESEARCH PAPERS IN STREPULSION-PHYSICS ANNOUNCED AND APPEARED AS TITLE NEWS IN LEADING INDIAN AND FOREIGN PRESS: ANNOUNCEMENT BY NAVIN SHAH (N), PANKAJ (P) AND PADMA (J)

After that bit of nonsense along comes Zetamax and blows the whole Repulsion Force idea Nancy built up right out of the water with this quote:


See the graphic top of that page. Unless objects are of EQUAL size, the repulsion force does not click in. Thus, fireballs fall to Earth, asteroid bump into Jupiter.

The reason Mankind is Unaware of a repulsive force, also inherent in gravity, is that for this to become evident there must be a semblance of equality in size and weight, i.e. the mass of the objects, and freedom of movement such as exists in space, and lack of undue influence from other nearby objects.


Now since you can drop Planet X into a large sunspot without much of a hiccup you can see there was no slowing of Px by "Repulsion" so it should have gone zooming out of the solar system never to be seen again. Near light speed (186,000 MILES PER SECOND) and NO BRAKES! WHEEE!
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Ra, do you perhaps have a brother named Ra Ra, who is the Egyptian god of slightly crooked sticks and rhyming cheers?

Perhaps the Yellow Persona of PX was changing Andrew's posts. You know how the Yellow Persona enjoys a small jest. It's still laughing about braiding Saturn's rings.
 Quoting: Returner 997


We are Ra&Ra inc. We communicate now. We are those who are of the Law of One. In our vibration the polarities are harmonized; the complexities are simplified so some douchebag might believe them ... yet they sound so complicated, you can impress other douchebags with parroting them; the paradoxes have no solution. We are one. That is our nature and our purpose, beside selling some crooked CDs and books to make som more douchebags.
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Holy crap! I had a package of plain M&M candies on my desk, and I opened it just now, and *one of the candies lacks the characteristic imprint of the M.*

Can I please attribute this to intervention by a group of advanced extraterrestrials and start my own mail-order cult?

Are there forms I need to fill out?

Oh and Max, do you need another cause to promote? I'll probably offer dental and maybe some profit-sharing...
 Quoting: Returner 997


I opened a packet and got a lot of W's! must be a sign!
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I opened a packet and got a lot of W's! must be a sign!

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Omigod, that is a sign -- a sign that the M is upside down, and that means the Pole Shift HAS ALREADY HAPPENED!!!

Quick, get Nancy on the hotline! The upside-down M is a sure sign that the planet has flipped!

Take THAT, Debunkers!

Zetas right again!
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I opened a packet and got a lot of W's! must be a sign!




Omigod, that is a sign -- a sign that the M is upside down, and that means the Pole Shift HAS ALREADY HAPPENED!!!

Quick, get Nancy on the hotline! The upside-down M is a sure sign that the planet has flipped!

Take THAT, Debunkers!

Zetas right again!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 997


Arrrg! post apoplectic doom! All hail the Lieder, jump aboard the zeta taxi! away, away! Sorry Andrew, you will have to catch the next shuttle bus!
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This just in from ZetaTalk --

"The recent discovery that M&M candies are displaying W&W lends credence to the fact, which was already known to the Common Man, that the Pole shift is not only factual but taking place!

The Elite have of course already begun their spin campaign, blitzing the media with 'explanations' that the M&M candy manufacturing plant suffered a bizarre software error which caused the printing machines to 'expell inverted ink.' The White House is scrambling to ramp up their efforts in the Middle East before the full extent of the Pole Shift causes mass panick, as buildings fall up and birds try to burrow and Snickers Bars are renamed Srab Srekcins."

Another example of how Nancy's plain talk cuts right through the veil of confusion cast by Elite-controlled scientists and media.
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Wow, you got ALL Ws? I have a mix of Ms and Ws. Maybe the "pole shift" hasn't fully impacted my location yet.
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I'm sure that's it, CB.

Or perhaps the Zetas have tilted the Earth to conceal the reality of the Pole Shift from the masses. This could be accomplished by shifting the northern polar alignment vector a hair less than several degrees to the right of the perpendicular to the Solar azimuth as measured from the apex of the Great Pyramid to the buttocks of the Sphinx.

Resulting in confusion for the Elite and the STS!
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I have a thesis regarding the appeal of ZetaTalk. ZetaTalk appeals to many people at first take because it ties up reality in a nice neat bundle. That is, most people wonder what the answer to all the unknowns in the world are. They look at religion, politics, science, business, and social malfunction and wonder what the heck is going on. All the old philosophies and ‘Truth’ they were told doesn’t seem to answer their questions. So ZetaTalk connects the dots because they are not constrained by traditional logic or science. They use semi-plausible explanations referring to highly technical areas of endeavor and it many times takes knowledge and research to debunk their statements. It is very hard for most people to imagine the three dimensional alignments of the heavens and recognize Orbital Mechanics and the like unless they have done it most of their lives. Most people are not aware of the position of the planets or constellations based on season, time, date and their position on the earth. You mix in optical diffractions that cause photographic artifacts and you get more confusion.
Often people see what they are told they are suppose to see and pile on to a theory when a more logical and reasoned approach is warranted. So the following I have not seen debunked so please show me your answers:
The supposed SOHO images of Planet X? Is this Venus, Mars, other, etc.? [link to www.youtube.com] [link to www.youtube.com]


Last Edited by George B on 09/29/2009 12:25 PM
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I don't see an image, sorry!
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Gerard's web site is Delusion Central!

I think it is an honest and humble sharing.


You would, because you are a delusional crank.
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I prefer the people on my website above the debunker crowd.
I created it cause i want to inform on what's ahead. So that people are ready.

This is what i wrote in August

There are those who say that talking and informing people about a pole shift and nibiru is to induce fear or that's fear based. This isn't simply the case. It has to do with informing people on what's ahead so that they can be be ready and prepared for what's ahead. The reason that i inform people is not out of fear but out of love. It has is base in the postive and not in the negative. If it was the other way around and the Zetas or I wouldn't say a thing then that's would be a bad thing. Speaking out on this matter is a good thing i believe.

It is because my heart is open that i started this ning. Cause i feel that especially now it is of importance to raise awareness to the troubled times ahead of us. It would be negative if I would stay hush about this things. And that is not what the positive path is about.

If there wouldn't be any weather forecast and a tornado or hurricane would hit your area or city then what would you say? It maybe sound a bit far fetched when you read this but informing people
on the coming earth changes and about the pole shift falls within the same category. It is about informing so that one can be ready and prepared on what's ahead. And even then it's the up to the ones who hear the message whether they be ready or keep on living their life like nothing is on.

Even now there are those that even when the changes are getting more obvious stick their heads into the sand and keep on living their like there is nothing going on. It is all up to them. It is those who listen and take the necessary steps that matter.

Telling your loved ones and others about this thing is not a bad thing. It's a sign that you care.
And that's what the Zetas do, and that's what I do. Because we care.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
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I prefer the people on my website above the debunker crowd.
It is about informing so that one can be ready and prepared on what's ahead.
 Quoting: Gerard


So, Gerard, do you think there is no such thing as noise in CCD images?
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Gerard, I still think more people would listen if you had a cape and a mask.

But I guess that's up to the Zetas and the Wardrobe Department in the Sixth Density.
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I prefer the people on my website above the debunker crowd.
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Then, why do you come here?

I created it cause i want to inform on what's ahead. So that people are ready.
 Quoting: Gerard

And yet, very few people have ever heard of you. Nancy is more widely known and yet less than half a percent of the Earth's population has ever heard of her.
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So, Gerard, do you think there is no such thing as noise in CCD images?
 Quoting: Menow 405501


Yes. But since i know what you are going to say. What was photgraphed back then wasn't noise.

There you have my answer mennow.

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Hey, does anyone have a pic of this CCD noise -- er, Gerard's super-duper phantom planet -- that they could post, or maybe a link to it I could follow?

I love a good splash of random digital noise.
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I'm sure that's it, CB.

Or perhaps the Zetas have tilted the Earth to conceal the reality of the Pole Shift from the masses. This could be accomplished by shifting the northern polar alignment vector a hair less than several degrees to the right of the perpendicular to the Solar azimuth as measured from the apex of the Great Pyramid to the buttocks of the Sphinx.

Resulting in confusion for the Elite and the STS!
 Quoting: Returner 997



SOBS

Ya. What he said.
That's it!
And man... Am I confused.
Just keep your Apex away from my Sphinxter, bud.

EOBS

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Gerard's web site is Delusion Central!

I think it is an honest and humble sharing.


You would, because you are a delusional crank.



I prefer the people on my website above the debunker crowd.
I created it cause i want to inform on what's ahead. So that people are ready.

This is what i wrote in August

There are those who say that talking and informing people about a pole shift and nibiru is to induce fear or that's fear based. This isn't simply the case. It has to do with informing people on what's ahead so that they can be be ready and prepared for what's ahead. The reason that i inform people is not out of fear but out of love. It has is base in the postive and not in the negative. If it was the other way around and the Zetas or I wouldn't say a thing then that's would be a bad thing. Speaking out on this matter is a good thing i believe.

It is because my heart is open that i started this ning. Cause i feel that especially now it is of importance to raise awareness to the troubled times ahead of us. It would be negative if I would stay hush about this things. And that is not what the positive path is about.

If there wouldn't be any weather forecast and a tornado or hurricane would hit your area or city then what would you say? It maybe sound a bit far fetched when you read this but informing people
on the coming earth changes and about the pole shift falls within the same category. It is about informing so that one can be ready and prepared on what's ahead. And even then it's the up to the ones who hear the message whether they be ready or keep on living their life like nothing is on.

Even now there are those that even when the changes are getting more obvious stick their heads into the sand and keep on living their like there is nothing going on. It is all up to them. It is those who listen and take the necessary steps that matter.

Telling your loved ones and others about this thing is not a bad thing. It's a sign that you care.
And that's what the Zetas do, and that's what I do. Because we care.

[link to poleshift.ning.com]
 Quoting: Gerard


Your intention may be noble ... the problem is you dont know shit of whats ahead. Nobody can predict the future and nobody has ever predicted the future "with accuracy" ... and especially not Nancy Lieder. So we are at the beginning point of all questions: How do you prove your/Nancys/Zetas claims are right ... lets start with the fun all over and tell us.

Another problem with your website, or better to say with some peoples posts in your forum is the "we are the superhumans" mentality ... pretty much the same mentality as the Nazis had, and we know how this ended.

Telling your loved ones and others about this thing is not a bad thing. It's a sign that you care.
 Quoting: Gerard


This is a big problem ... because people indoctrinate their kids with that crap ... I dont think this cultivates the ambition for the kids to go to school and learn something real. If you now say "school is bogus" then we are exactly at the point the Scientologists or the faggots in Waco were. You people are dangerous ... the only good thing is you are too stupid and your fairytales are to bogus to catch that many people.
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Hey, does anyone have a pic of this CCD noise -- er, Gerard's super-duper phantom planet -- that they could post, or maybe a link to it I could follow?

I love a good splash of random digital noise.
 Quoting: Returner 997


[link to www.zetatalk.com]
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Yes. But since i know what you are going to say. What was photgraphed back then wasn't noise.

There you have my answer mennow.
 Quoting: Gerard

Too bad for you that the man Nancy tasked with that project disagrees with you. And he knows more about imaging than you do. What do you have to say about that? Let me guess...you don't believe him.

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So, Gerard, do you think there is no such thing as noise in CCD images?


Yes. But since i know what you are going to say. What was photgraphed back then wasn't noise.
 Quoting: Gerard


And you know this how?

There you have my answer mennow.
 Quoting: Gerard


Gerard, I know what an answer looks like. You don't need to tell me you have answered my question. You have made a definitive statement that what was in Nancy's images wasn't noise. How did you determine that? How did you decide what was noise and what was NOT noise in those images? Did you just take Nancy's WORD for it?
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So, Gerard, do you think there is no such thing as noise in CCD images?


Yes. But since i know what you are going to say. What was photgraphed back then wasn't noise.

There you have my answer mennow.
 Quoting: Gerard


Do you REALLY believe that a object can appear in more than one location on the same image? If so, why?
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Hey, does anyone have a pic of this CCD noise -- er, Gerard's super-duper phantom planet -- that they could post, or maybe a link to it I could follow?

I love a good splash of random digital noise.
 Quoting: Returner 997


Some of Nancy's picks were pre-existing stars. Some were asteroids. Most were nothing but image noise.

[link to de.geocities.com]


It is WELL worth noting that "Zetas" predicted that Nancy's planet would be imaged at magnitude 10-11. The bits of fluff Nancy picked out in the images were right at the noise floor, around Mag 18-20. Nancy has NEVER addressed that failure.
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PS: "Zetas" originally claimed that PX was "visible to the naked eye" in 1995.

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