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KeepingItReal

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10/03/2009 07:02 PM

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When you talk about leaning of the earth to the left, what do you mean by left? What is left? West?

If you are in the northern hemisphere, looking at the Sun, it would be to your left.
Quoting: Nancy Lieder

So if I am in the northern hemisphere facing north, left of the sun is the west. But if I am facing the south, left of the sun is east. To further complicate matters, if I am facing the east, left of the sun would be north, and if I am facing the west, it to the left is south. Basic elementary school logic. Somehow this simple logic escapes Nancy and her Zetas.
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J.William Dell

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10/03/2009 07:24 PM
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When you talk about leaning of the earth to the left, what do you mean by left? What is left? West?

If you are in the northern hemisphere, looking at the Sun, it would be to your left.

So if I am in the northern hemisphere facing north, left of the sun is the west. But if I am facing the south, left of the sun is east. To further complicate matters, if I am facing the east, left of the sun would be north, and if I am facing the west, it to the left is south. Basic elementary school logic. Somehow this simple logic escapes Nancy and her Zetas.
Quoting: KeepingItReal

I can understand you and I being perplexed.

At this location in the Northern Hemisphere, the sun still comes up in the east crosses over to the South, and still goes down in the West. I can point in 3 different directions using those instructions, depending on the time of day.

I guess as long as the world gets some kind of "wobble", she'll be right, ;o)

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JWD
J.William Dell

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10/03/2009 07:32 PM
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As no one has answered your question, I'll give it a try.

Can someone clarify exactly where the 12th planet is supposed to be right now? I'm very confused about that very important, and highly confusing "fact".
Quoting: Pluton (aka yourmom) 769848

According to Sitchen, it will be in our Neighbourhood around roughly 3000 to 3400 AD.

Acording to the "zetas" it should have passed through here May 2003.

And I just don't mean "near the sun" or where it's RA and Dec would be in the sky if it were a real planet. I mean exactly where does Nancy claim it is in relation to the Sun and Magellanic objects as a rigid, fixed frame of reference.
Quoting: Pluton (aka yourmom) 769848

Best I can figure, at this time (2009) Nancy Leider claims it's "around the sun". A haven't seen any clearer statement beyound that.(Others may have)

The instructions appear rather vague. My previous post to KeepingitReal showcases another example.

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10/03/2009 07:43 PM
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Whether you accept my scientific background and credentials as HARD SCIENCE or not is really not the issue. I am and was considered a Scientist by title and profession.
Quoting: George B

You can keep telling yourself that you're a scientist. The reality is quite different.

Did you know I have a crew of Engineers that come to my home every week?
They are considered Engineers by title and profession.
Their title? Sanitation Engineer. I just call them the garbage men.

I'm sure their résumés read like yours - a lesson in obscurantism:
- They apply the principles of Materials Science.
- They are versed in Metallurgy. (They check the sorting of steel and aluminum waste)
- They routinely use their knowledge of Polymer Chemistry. (They check the sorting of the plastic recyclables)
- They are in the forefront of Applied Environmental Science. (They make sure the trash doesn't contain prohibited poisons/toxins)
- They publish internal documents outlining their 'research' noted above. (They fill out their semi-annual review assessment in hopes of getting a better raise)

I guess they call themselves "scientist" and I should too.

BTW - the synopsis of your 'scientific' achievements reads like someone who was a secretary in the Human Resources Department.
I'm betting that something in Human Resources was your career.
No shame in that - it's an honourable profession and if you made it to supervisor or higher, it's a PITA.
You may even have an AAS in Industrial/Business Psychology.
You are, however, no scientist.

I'll ignore you for now since all anyone has to do is search your user ID to see how kooky and anti-science your previous posts have been.
... And as expected, they show you think there may be something to ZetaTalk since it answers questions that you cannot find suitable answers to in mainstream science.

You are following the kOOk m. o. as if you'd invented it.
The others may toy with you until you 'come out' as the anti-science Zetakook you are, but when they blast you I predict you'll whine, "You debunkers are all a bunch of big meanies because you won't let me get away with scurrilous, kooky, anti-science lies... And I am too a Scientist!"

Kook on.
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10/03/2009 07:45 PM
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I read last week here that when you die you can be reincarnated as an octopus on another planet. Is there any way I can come back as another animal, like a chicken for example? And I also want to be reincarnated on Earth. What types of creatures on Earth can I be reincarnated as? Thanks.

I don't want to be a freakin octopus on another planet!
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***ZetaMax***

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10/03/2009 07:49 PM
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I read last week here that when you die you can be reincarnated as an octopus on another planet. Is there any way I can come back as another animal, like a chicken for example? And I also want to be reincarnated on Earth. What types of creatures on Earth can I be reincarnated as? Thanks.

I don't want to be a freakin octopus on another planet!

Quoting: Anonymous Coward 785120

Deal with it! SUCK IT UP!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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ZetaMax
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10/03/2009 08:18 PM
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Dell, Nancy is over on her thread calling you a liar.
tater
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10/03/2009 08:19 PM
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Is it a possibility that the PS might happen in 2012?

SOZT
This is possible, but as to the probability we cannot say as this gives clues to a timeline.
EOZT
Quoting: Nancy Lieder

So what good are the Zetas and ZetaCult? From what I've read about the so called "greys", they seem to lie a lot, maybe all the time. Seems to me that the Zetas/greys/lying spirits are mischievous, unreliable, and quite deceptive.

They are blamed for abductions and probings and mutilations, etc.

I wonder how many lives Nancy and her Zetas have screwed up.

So much for STO. Sounds like a cult to me.

Or maybe it's all just "The biggest internet HOAX of all time."

Time will tell, eh?

Peace
***ZetaMax***

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10/03/2009 08:26 PM
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Is it a possibility that the PS might happen in 2012?

SOZT
This is possible, but as to the probability we cannot say as this gives clues to a timeline.
EOZT

So what good are the Zetas and ZetaCult? From what I've read about the so called "greys", they seem to lie a lot, maybe all the time. Seems to me that the Zetas/greys/lying spirits are mischievous, unreliable, and quite deceptive.

They are blamed for abductions and probings and mutilations, etc.

I wonder how many lives Nancy and her Zetas have screwed up.

So much for STO. Sounds like a cult to me.

Or maybe it's all just "The biggest internet HOAX of all time."

Time will tell, eh?

Peace
Quoting: tater 785739

>> Time will tell, eh?

PRECISELY! On that we can AGREE! If only the rest of the shill debunkers would see the superior LOGIC in that position.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
` [link to www.zetatalk.com] `

ZetaMax
J.William Dell

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10/03/2009 09:02 PM
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Dell, Nancy is over on her thread calling you a liar.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 785703

Well thank you Anonymous Coward, for bearing this news to me.

I suppose I should be flattered for being mentioned.

Have I told a lie of any particular colour?

Do tell?

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JWD
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10/03/2009 09:16 PM
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PRECISELY! On that we can AGREE! If only the rest of the shill debunkers would see the superior LOGIC in that position.
Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

If only you would see the superior LOGIC that shows how and why Nancy is wrong...and then acknowledge that you aren't really a fence sitter.
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10/03/2009 09:16 PM
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Have I told a lie of any particular colour?

Do tell?

Regards
JWD
Quoting: J.William Dell

Oh, snap.
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10/03/2009 09:19 PM
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Thank you CB, for providing the "emphasis" to my assertion.
Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

It didn't do anything to provide emphasis to your assertion...no matter how you want to spin it.

I would also like to thank you for providing "emphasis" on my assertion that you aren't a fence sitter.
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10/03/2009 09:23 PM
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Best I can figure, at this time (2009) Nancy Leider claims it's "around the sun". A haven't seen any clearer statement beyound that.(Others may have)

The instructions appear rather vague. My previous post to KeepingitReal showcases another example.

Kindest Regards
J.William Dell
Quoting: J.William Dell

That pretty much sums it up because Nancy has several photos all showing it in a different location...some photos taken on the same day at different times or locations. Planets simply don't move that quickly.
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Circuit Breaker

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10/03/2009 09:24 PM
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Well thank you Anonymous Coward, for bearing this news to me.
Quoting: J.William Dell

I do hope you don't lose any sleep over it. LOL!!
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The Lone Ranger (OP)

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10/03/2009 09:41 PM
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Will Obama be re-elected in 2012?

SOZT
This question cannot be answered without giving clues as to a timeline for the passage. Thus, declined.
EOZT
Quoting: Nancy Lieder

Classic crapola. Ms LIEDer has been burnt before making specific prediction claims. A classic example was her claim that the US/Coalition forces would not be allowed to invade IRAQ!! Well we all know how that worked out for Nancy eh.
I need to dig up examples showing where Nancy has said a similar thing, in regards to the above quote, only using a different time period.....eg: like events leading up to 2003 etc.

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10/03/2009 09:50 PM

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Whether you accept my scientific background and credentials as HARD SCIENCE or not is really not the issue. I am and was considered a Scientist by title and profession.

You can keep telling yourself that you're a scientist. The reality is quite different.

Did you know I have a crew of Engineers that come to my home every week?
They are considered Engineers by title and profession.
Their title? Sanitation Engineer. I just call them the garbage men.

I'm sure their résumés read like yours - a lesson in obscurantism:
- They apply the principles of Materials Science.
- They are versed in Metallurgy. (They check the sorting of steel and aluminum waste)
- They routinely use their knowledge of Polymer Chemistry. (They check the sorting of the plastic recyclables)
- They are in the forefront of Applied Environmental Science. (They make sure the trash doesn't contain prohibited poisons/toxins)
- They publish internal documents outlining their 'research' noted above. (They fill out their semi-annual review assessment in hopes of getting a better raise)

I guess they call themselves "scientist" and I should too.

BTW - the synopsis of your 'scientific' achievements reads like someone who was a secretary in the Human Resources Department.
I'm betting that something in Human Resources was your career.
No shame in that - it's an honourable profession and if you made it to supervisor or higher, it's a PITA.
You may even have an AAS in Industrial/Business Psychology.
You are, however, no scientist.

I'll ignore you for now since all anyone has to do is search your user ID to see how kooky and anti-science your previous posts have been.
... And as expected, they show you think there may be something to ZetaTalk since it answers questions that you cannot find suitable answers to in mainstream science.

You are following the kOOk m. o. as if you'd invented it.
The others may toy with you until you 'come out' as the anti-science Zetakook you are, but when they blast you I predict you'll whine, "You debunkers are all a bunch of big meanies because you won't let me get away with scurrilous, kooky, anti-science lies... And I am too a Scientist!"

Kook on.
Quoting: Reality420 785720

Since you are an expert on what is or is not a Scientist or is it a Hard Scientist why don't you detail your scientific credentials . . .

A scientist, in the broadest sense, refers to any person who engages in a systematic activity to acquire knowledge or an individual that engages in such practices and traditions that are linked to schools of thought or philosophy. In a more restricted sense, scientist refers to individuals who use the scientific method.[1] The person may be an expert in one or more areas of science.[2] [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Scientific method refers to a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge. To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.[1] A scientific method consists of the collection of data through observation and experimentation, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses.[2]

I just want to know if you and I have the same general definition of Scientific Method and Scientist . . .

Do you agree with the above definitions?

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KeepingItReal

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10/03/2009 09:54 PM

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Will Obama be re-elected in 2012?

SOZT
This question cannot be answered without giving clues as to a timeline for the passage. Thus, declined.
EOZT

Classic crapola. Ms LIEDer has been burnt before making specific prediction claims. A classic example was her claim that the US/Coalition forces would not be allowed to invade IRAQ!! Well we all know how that worked out for Nancy eh.
I need to dig up examples showing where Nancy has said a similar thing, in regards to the above quote, only using a different time period.....eg: like events leading up to 2003 etc.
Quoting: The Lone Ranger

Especially when it comes to Obama predictions. Remember how we read it here first that Obama would never be given the democratic nomination because TPTB would not allow it. Remember how she said Hillary had it in the bag? Then fast forward to a time when it looked not only possible but probable that Obama would in fact get the nomination. Suddenly she changed her tune, and now Obama was the starchild that has come to save the world from the evil republicans and make everything right. She threw in something about how the original prediction made was not really wrong, because the human factor was involved. Well, going on a year later and I don't see any meaningful difference between this president and the last one, except Obama is able to string together full coherent sentences and he doesn't go around waving his nuclear dick around. Nancy obviously wants to leave a lot of twist and squirm room when it comes to predictions about Obama, cuz she got burned in the past.
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The Lone Ranger (OP)

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10/03/2009 09:59 PM
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PRECISELY! On that we can AGREE! If only the rest of the shill debunkers would see the superior LOGIC in that position.
Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

And you wonder why you get called names!!

And you must see the hilarious irony of what you write Melfy when one minute you use the term "the rest of the shill debunkers" then vehemently defend your phony position as a Fence Sitter.

This kind of hypocritical behaviour, by you Melfy is probably the main reason why the majority of posters on this thread give you little to zero crediblity.

You are betrayed by your own hypocritical words, Melfy, which makes you appear to be nothing more than a role playing troll or for Nancy.

I even have seen examples of you in the past directly answering questions on behalf of Nancy during her 2 hour chat threads. Even when one questioner had pointed out that the particular question asked was for Nancy and would you kindly butt out you refused to do so.

So before calling the debunkers shills you need to check the condition of your glass house as broken falling glass can cause you great damage

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I was doing a quick search to see where the latest zetababble was (apparently Nancy hasnt been on yet tonight)

so I went back looking at previous zetababbles

Thread: ZetaTalk on DC Metro Crash

I found this interesting (and rather revealing)

its a few months old- but while reading through it- I found this post on page 2

Anonymous Coward
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6/25/2009 6:56 AM Re: ZetaTalk on DC Metro Crash Quote

hang on- it has an nony mouse poster agreeing with nancy-

`Thanks for the link, great info!'

but why does it have O.P in bold next to nonny mouse??

hmm so I look at the originating post

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ZetaTalk Analysis 6/27/2009:
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 763624

Nancy is renowned for multiple fakes, sock puppets and other methods of boosting her ego.

Good catch.
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Will Obama be re-elected in 2012?

SOZT
This question cannot be answered without giving clues as to a timeline for the passage. Thus, declined.
EOZT
Quoting: The Lone Ranger

Well, the "Zetas" should have easily been able to say, "No!" since the "pole shift" is supposed to happen before 2012. Sounds like Nancy/"Zetas" aren't so sure anymore. And, since they said he wasn't even going to win the nomination, let alone the election, she/they are taking the smart route and simply declining to answer instead of making a statement and possibly having it be wrong and then brought up again.
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The Lone Ranger (OP)

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10/03/2009 10:15 PM
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Especially when it comes to Obama predictions. Remember how we read it here first that Obama would never be given the democratic nomination because TPTB would not allow it. Remember how she said Hillary had it in the bag? Then fast forward to a time when it looked not only possible but probable that Obama would in fact get the nomination. Suddenly she changed her tune, and now Obama was the starchild that has come to save the world from the evil republicans and make everything right. She threw in something about how the original prediction made was not really wrong, because the human factor was involved. Well, going on a year later and I don't see any meaningful difference between this president and the last one, except Obama is able to string together full coherent sentences and he doesn't go around waving his nuclear dick around. Nancy obviously wants to leave a lot of twist and squirm room when it comes to predictions about Obama, cuz she got burned in the past.
Quoting: KeepingItReal

Yep Nancy totally got it wrong in ALL her political predictons/claims regarding the 2008 Presidential/Primary Elections. Nancy is indeed reactive to any claims made by herself on said events. Meaning when she gets it wrong, which is all the time, she reactively changes her claims to align with the actual reality of the moment.

If Hillary Clinton or anyone else had become the US President then Nancy will simply present a different set of SOZT....EOZT writings to suit whatever the reality becomes.

Nancy LIEDer is as fraudlent a person as they come. The woman is not in contact with intelligent ETs as many years have proven this beyond the element of doubt. And the only minds she is reading is her own.

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10/03/2009 10:18 PM
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Can someone clarify exactly where the 12th planet is supposed to be right now? I'm very confused about that very important, and highly confusing "fact".

And I just don't mean "near the sun" or where it's RA and Dec would be in the sky if it were a real planet. I mean exactly where does Nancy claim it is in relation to the Sun and Magellanic objects as a rigid, fixed frame of reference.
Quoting: Pluton (aka yourmom) 769848

Consider that a planet stationary near (inside the orbit of Venus) the sun would have followed the basic laws of gravity and fallen to the surface of the sun. End of Px.
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Missed a noun an a period!

Consider that a planet stationary near (inside the orbit of Venus) the sun. Px would have followed the basic laws of gravity and fallen to the surface of the sun. End of Px.
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I was doing a quick search to see where the latest zetababble was (apparently Nancy hasnt been on yet tonight)

so I went back looking at previous zetababbles

Thread: ZetaTalk on DC Metro Crash

I found this interesting (and rather revealing)

its a few months old- but while reading through it- I found this post on page 2

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 710602 (OP)
6/25/2009 6:56 AM Re: ZetaTalk on DC Metro Crash Quote

hang on- it has an nony mouse poster agreeing with nancy-

`Thanks for the link, great info!'

but why does it have O.P in bold next to nonny mouse??

hmm so I look at the originating post

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ZetaTalk Analysis 6/27/2009:

Nancy is renowned for multiple fakes, sock puppets and other methods of boosting her ego.

Good catch.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 780906

Yep. Good catch by the quoted poster. And in regards to your ego comment you hit the nail smack bang on the head Maybe the lastest bunch of bunker believers will eventually see that Zetababble is about one thing and one thing only......Nancy LIEDer wanting to be worshipped by her disciple followers as someone important and relevant in human history.

I tell you this is why has learnt to laugh long and hard at this woman. I kid you not Ms LIEDer is an internet version of the Emperor parading amongst the people with no clothes on. She believes the people of the world are cheering and applauding her contrived message to mankind when in reality most see the actual folly and illogical nature of her many failed claims.

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10/03/2009 10:34 PM
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What say you Max? Is that not a horrible cop-out on Nancy's
part? Doesn't it tell you that she's already starting to
back off her "2012 is too far out" claim?
Quoting: DrPostman

I fail to see how answering the question gives any clues about the timeline. "They" already said that the "pole shift" would happen before 2012. If they had simply said, "No, because the 'pole shift" will happen before that." then they've answered the question and not given out any further clues. In fact, I'd say the exact opposite has happened. They've now given a clue by declining to answer. By doing so, they're hinting that the "pole shift" won't happen before 2012 after all.
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10/03/2009 10:39 PM
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This is the funniest line from Nancy I have seen for years!

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SOZT
We read minds, and WHY do you want to know? To better her protection? Why are you probing?
EOZT

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10/03/2009 10:43 PM
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You can think of this thread the way you would think about the "Pentagon".

It's a "government facility".
Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

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Care to back that up Max? The thread was started by TLR, who I believe is a Kiwi.
Quoting: KeepingItReal

Yes correct I am a Kiwi.

I am self employed and operate my own contracting business and have done so since 1993.

My only real involvement in working on behalf of my Government is in paying taxes!!

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10/03/2009 10:51 PM
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Is it a possibility that the PS might happen in 2012?

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This is possible, but as to the probability we cannot say as this gives clues to a timeline.
EOZT

So what good are the Zetas and ZetaCult? From what I've read about the so called "greys", they seem to lie a lot, maybe all the time. Seems to me that the Zetas/greys/lying spirits are mischievous, unreliable, and quite deceptive.

They are blamed for abductions and probings and mutilations, etc.

I wonder how many lives Nancy and her Zetas have screwed up.

So much for STO. Sounds like a cult to me.

Or maybe it's all just "The biggest internet HOAX of all time."

Time will tell, eh?

Peace
Quoting: tater 785739

To me, I believe either the Zetas ARE aliens themselves, or they are being heavily manipulated by the spirits they claim to channel, as spirits are quite entertained by stringing along the receptive folk if they aren't 300% careful, which is impossible, so i'm sticking with the Zetas are all being puppets. To the guy freaking out about the octopus reincarnation: When you die, if they try to sweet talk you into becoming an octopus, say NO. If they tell you that you don't have a choice, say NO. You ALWAYS have a choice. The astral world is even more deceptive than this one if you aren't careful, just remember that reincarnation is evil unless your sole intentions are to return to assist by free will. I believe reincarnation was never part of the plan, but rather the devil's (if you believe in the devil... if not, think pure opposite of whatever you think created you)deception in order to keep your crazy ass suffering for as long as he can, in the name of teaching you something that you never really learn.

As for 2012, craziness will ensue on or around that date, but it isn't the end.

Don't think negatively of the Zetas either, as that serves to feed the agressor. So does fear, so don't be afraid of all the DOOM, just know that you know about it and prepare yourselves accordingly. The more you are afraid, the stronger they become and the worse it will be.
The only thing I know is that I know nothing