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Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!

 
***ZetaMax***

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No, he doesn't. He'll come back and either spin it or post a little cartoon.
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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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Thank you for proving "debunkers" right yet once again Max. Of course, you're quite predictable.
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No, he doesn't. He'll come back and either spin it or post a little cartoon.

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So there we have it. When confronted with his BLUNDER Max resorts first to making up BULLSHIT to try to support it, then 'he' falls back on the old faithful stupid pic.

There we have the DECEIT and the INFANTILE STUPIDITY all in one example!

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Nancy is getting short tempered with people asking questions. She blew off several last night with links to past chats and even told a couple of people that she will not be answering their questions in the future. I mean that's something she can afford to do, chase people off with rudeness.

She wrote about the dark twin and earth stalled in orbit again, and the contradictions are hilarious! Maybe one of the bunkers could explain how the earth is stalled in the September position, if as Nancy claimed last night, the stoppage occurred in "early 2004". Wouldn't that leave the earth parked in the January or February position? What was the earth doing in the September position in early 2004? She apparently can't keep her own bullshit straight anymore.
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In earlier claims, she said Earth "halted in orbit" on Dec 25, 2003. It has since backed up to a September position because of "Planet X." Naturally, this is easily proven wrong by simply watching the constellations. For instance, Orion is hidden from view during the summer months because the sun lies between it and the Earth. Her explanation that the "Zetas" are "tilting" the Earth and "lowering it in the ecliptic" to make it visible just doesn't work.

Here are some photos that clearly demonstrate that:
[link to farm3.static.flickr.com]
[link to farm4.static.flickr.com]
[link to farm3.static.flickr.com]

While the photos are not to scale, they clearly show that no amount of raising, lowering or tilting of the Earth will make Orion visible. The only thing that would make it visible in the night sky is if Earth were orbiting the sun.

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It is beyond me how anyone can believe her about anything. None of it makes any sense at all.
The Zetas come to warn us, and then they go to the trouble of covering up the signs of that very thing they warn us about by moving the earth around to simulate normalcy because they aren't allowed to interfere. Yeah. Something like that.
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It is beyond me how anyone can believe her about anything. None of it makes any sense at all.
The Zetas come to warn us, and then they go to the trouble of covering up the signs of that very thing they warn us about by moving the earth around to simulate normalcy because they aren't allowed to interfere. Yeah. Something like that.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!
(Sir Walter Scott)

And as the web of lies grows, it becomes harder for a liar to keep track.

Good reason to be truthful at all times, cause most can't remember sh*t from one day to the next. ;o)

JWD
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This is NOT true at all!

Nancy does not prevent you from asking questions. What a LIE!

Nancy does not allow you to ask the same question over and over and over again. And that's exactly what you guys do.

You will not accept her answer so you keep asking the same question. This is NOT allowed ... nor should it!
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You mean when Nancy's "answer" is nothing but another layer of bullshit added on top of the rest, or a clear dodge or non-answer, we DON'T accept it. AS IT SHOULD BE.



Ask any question you want, and if it hasn't already been answered she will probably answer it. That's how it works.

I should know, I've been here longer than any of the debunkers, and thems the facts.
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You wouldn't know a fact if it bit you right on the behind.
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In earlier claims, she said Earth "halted in orbit" on Dec 25, 2003. It has since backed up to a September position because of "Planet X." Naturally, this is easily proven wrong by simply watching the constellations. For instance, Orion is hidden from view during the summer months because the sun lies between it and the Earth. Her explanation that the "Zetas" are "tilting" the Earth and "lowering it in the ecliptic" to make it visible just doesn't work.

Here are some photos that clearly demonstrate that:
[link to farm3.static.flickr.com]
[link to farm4.static.flickr.com]
[link to farm3.static.flickr.com]

While the photos are not to scale, they clearly show that no amount of raising, lowering or tilting of the Earth will make Orion visible. The only thing that would make it visible in the night sky is if Earth were orbiting the sun.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker



The whole concept of "little grey guys" moving the earth around for any reason is a little far fetched for me, as it is for most people.

But stretch this a little further and state the earth isn't orbiting anymore?

Come on!

Perhaps the Zetatalk premise is to see just how gullible people can be, and just how far "they" will believe in this lunacy.

Cause they sure are taking it to the limit.

[link to www.youtube.com]

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That's right. The lies and contradictions are taking on a life of their own, and Nancy spends more and more time spinning reality to explain away the inconsistencies. It would be so much easier to admit she was wrong and move on, but Nancy will never do that.

I still don't understand her dark twin explanations. Sometimes it sounds like she is saying that it too is stalled opposite the earth, I guess that would be in the "March position", but then other times she seems to be saying that it is near the earth, but we can't see it. She says it was photographed shortly after the stoppage of earth, but that would have been impossible if the twin was opposite the earth, because it would have been behind the sun. If she means that the earth stopped but the twin continued to move, why did it stop instead of crashing into the earth six months later when it caught up to the parked earth? She has been asked questions about these contradictions before, but the answers only serve to confuse the matter more. Of course, I know that the earth is where it should be, and that there is no dark twin sharing orbit with us. I can actually back that up with simple observation that anyone can do, while Nancy and her followers cannot provide one shred of evidence to support the dark twin/stalled earth scenario.
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It is beyond me how anyone can believe her about anything. None of it makes any sense at all.
The Zetas come to warn us, and then they go to the trouble of covering up the signs of that very thing they warn us about by moving the earth around to simulate normalcy because they aren't allowed to interfere. Yeah. Something like that.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


That's pretty easy to explain. As you know, the "Zetas" claim that the government (apparently ever government on the planet) wants to enslave all of humanity for their evil purposes during the confusion and chaos of the "pole shift." But to keep the government in the dark about when that's actually going to happen, the "Zetas" have to make everything "appear normal." Apparently, the "Zetas," Nancy and her followers all believe that the government actually has the power to do such a thing. The problem with that is if all of the things Nancy and the "Zetas" claim are happening were to occur without intervention on their behalf, the government wouldn't be able to do a damn thing to keep everyone in line. If people felt that their lives were in danger, they're going to do whatever it takes to survive...and that includes rise up against those who are in their way. If the "pole shift" is supposed to kill off 90% of life on Earth anyway, what do these people have to lose? There's no guarantee they would live through the shift in the first place so they might as well go out fighting.

In addition, as it stands right now, the only people who know anything about this are the government who wants to enslave people, "debunkers," those that actually follow Nancy and a few friends and relatives of each group. Everyone else is clueless. So, what good does it do for the "Zetas" to make everything appear normal? If "Planet X" were to suddenly show up, only those who know of ZetaTalk would know what was going on. And those who follow her would already know what the government has in mind so they would also know what to do. As would "debunkers" since they, too, are aware of what's going on. Everyone else remains oblivious and will probably die. If the "Zetas" stopped making things "appear normal," it would give more people a chance to notice these "changes" and begin to ask questions. These people would tell their friends and family...who would in turn tell others. Eventually, more people would know about it than the government could control. And there wouldn't be a damn thing the government could do to cover up these changes...regardless of how much power Nancy would like people to believe the government has. And, assuming only 10% of the Earth's human population actually survives, how is the government going to find all these people and enslave them? Human civilization will be in ruin. There will be no roads, no cars, no electricity, no Internet. The government's own resources would be stretched too thin just to keep themselves alive let alone go out and find people to enslave. Finally, assuming that any of what Nancy claims is true...what would keep the government from enslaving Nancy's followers after the "pole shift?" If the government has been preparing for this, as she claims, they'll have far more resources and abilities than any survivor will. So, the whole "the Zetas are doing this to protect the common man" is a load of manure that doesn't really fly if you actually think it through....which is something her followers obviously don't do.
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The above was me...got logged out typing it up.
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Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!
(Sir Walter Scott)

And as the web of lies grows, it becomes harder for a liar to keep track.

Good reason to be truthful at all times, cause most can't remember sh*t from one day to the next. ;o)

JWD
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As my grandmother always told me, "For every lie you tell, you have to tell seven more to cover the first."
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Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!
(Sir Walter Scott)

And as the web of lies grows, it becomes harder for a liar to keep track.

Good reason to be truthful at all times, cause most can't remember sh*t from one day to the next. ;o)

JWD

As my grandmother always told me, "For every lie you tell, you have to tell seven more to cover the first."
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


Wise words.
(grandmothers are always good for that ;o)


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From Nancy's chat tonight:

SOZT
Earth has a twin which normally rides exactly opposite, sharing the orbit, so is never seen. It has moved to join the Earth, trapped in her orbit, but as it is a black hunk of rock not reflecting light cannot be seen. However, when the angle was right in early 2004, just after Earth stopped her orbit, a blue and yellow lighted orb was seen in the sky, and even photographed.
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 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Wow. Yet another pack of obvious contradictions. Well, Andrew, shall we take them one at a time? Let's! OK... It's "black rock" "not reflecting light" and "cannot be seen". Hmm.. first of all, that is IMPOSSIBLE. Second, they say it was "seen ...and even photographed", but WAIT! It CANNOT be seen! Hmm.... Third, I have quoted Zetatalk from three months AFTER the alleged Earth-halt, saying that it WAS GOING TO BECOME VISIBLE!

You have the floor, Andrew. Explain how these obvious contradictions don't really exist.
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Not a whole lot of discussion going on over on the other thread. What discussion there is has to do with whether you come back as an octopus or whether animals have souls or not.
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It's interesting they don't ever talk about any of her geological, meteorological or astronomical claims. But then, if they did that, and Nancy found out about it, she would label them "debunkers" and they wouldn't be welcome in her threads anymore.
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It's interesting they don't ever talk about any of her geological, meteorological or astronomical claims. But then, if they did that, and Nancy found out about it, she would label them "debunkers" and they wouldn't be welcome in her threads anymore.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

dbunk
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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dbunk
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And, again, Max demonstrates that the best his intellect can muster for a response is to post a cartoon.

I can do that too...
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...When 2012 comes and goes Nancy, people who are following you now or who have given you a pass so far on your failings over the years, will totally reject; ignore; and mock you in ways you have previously unseen on the internet.


are you including me?
because i will not reject if 2012 will come and go with nothing happening. (IF). it is stupid to cling to ANY date for whatever reason.
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Yes Andrew I was also including you bro. Now I realise that you have already stated previously that dates are irrelevant when it comes to Planet X. But as we know Zetatalk was built around doomsday date predictions and therefore dude you are calling Ms LIEDer stupid!!
Especially when we classically had Nancy declaring that May 2003 was the date for the Big Show and that all other dates were incorrect.
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Now that it is empty of the sense of the debunkers, this week's ZetaTalk thread is almost an object lesson in illogic, flawed reasoning, crackpot ideas, obvious bullshit, rudeness, sycophancy, arrogant ignorance and tedium!

No wonder Nancy spits venom like a pissed-off Cobra.

The boycott is a wonderful thing in that it exposes ZetaTalk naked for all to see, and the light of reality is something pseudo-science cannot bear.
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The boycott is a wonderful thing in that it exposes ZetaTalk naked for all to see, and the light of reality is something pseudo-science cannot bear.

_absurd
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_absurd that you would be the one to supply the second highest amount of postings to our wonderful debunker thread. And then _absurd that you, Melfy would basically ignore your beloved LIEDer's thread in preference for those that you most despise.....

....._absurd

But thanks anyway!!
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And lets not forget how they were asked a simple multiplication problem on Lou Gentile, only to go on some rant about how they couldn't do it because the equation and/or answer could get lost in the translation. You can tell Nancy was making it up as she went because there were lots of pauses and the use of "uh" and "um". What the whole thing really translated to was that Nancy needed a calculator.
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Yeah thanks Max for keeping this thread bumped to the front page. Now maybe you can answer some questions about the dark twin and earth stalled in orbit.

Or let's start with something easier, like what the hell does "lean to the left" mean. Nancy says that if you are in the northern hemisphere looking at the sun, the lean is to the left of the sun, but that doesn't say anything. Maybe I am missing something, because where I am, where left of the sun is depends on what direction I am facing.Right now I am looking at the sun from a south facing window. Left of the sun is east. But now if I look at the sun through a west facing window, the south is to the left. And this morning, I looked at the sun from an east facing window and guess what? Left of the sun was north!!! OMG. Maybe this is only happening where I am (LOL). Please do explain, Max!!
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And lets not forget how they were asked a simple multiplication problem on Lou Gentile, only to go on some rant about how they couldn't do it because the equation and/or answer could get lost in the translation. You can tell Nancy was making it up as she went because there were lots of pauses and the use of "uh" and "um". What the whole thing really translated to was that Nancy needed a calculator.


lol4me
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Maybe the equation included a zero. That really freaks them zetadudes out.
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Yeah thanks Max for keeping this thread bumped to the front page. Now maybe you can answer some questions about the dark twin and earth stalled in orbit.

Or let's start with something easier, like what the hell does "lean to the left" mean. Nancy says that if you are in the northern hemisphere looking at the sun, the lean is to the left of the sun, but that doesn't say anything. Maybe I am missing something, because where I am, where left of the sun is depends on what direction I am facing.Right now I am looking at the sun from a south facing window. Left of the sun is east. But now if I look at the sun through a west facing window, the south is to the left. And this morning, I looked at the sun from an east facing window and guess what? Left of the sun was north!!! OMG. Maybe this is only happening where I am (LOL). Please do explain, Max!!
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Yes, the "lean to the left" is caused by the same forces that cause "Planet X" to appear below and to the right of the sun at sunrise and sunset.
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Yeah thanks Max for keeping this thread bumped to the front page. Now maybe you can answer some questions about the dark twin and earth stalled in orbit.

Or let's start with something easier, like what the hell does "lean to the left" mean. Nancy says that if you are in the northern hemisphere looking at the sun, the lean is to the left of the sun, but that doesn't say anything. Maybe I am missing something, because where I am, where left of the sun is depends on what direction I am facing.Right now I am looking at the sun from a south facing window. Left of the sun is east. But now if I look at the sun through a west facing window, the south is to the left. And this morning, I looked at the sun from an east facing window and guess what? Left of the sun was north!!! OMG. Maybe this is only happening where I am (LOL). Please do explain, Max!!

Yes, the "lean to the left" is caused by the same forces that cause "Planet X" to appear below and to the right of the sun at sunrise and sunset.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

It will all become clear when we enter the last weeks.

Approaching.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Not a whole lot of discussion going on over on the other thread. What discussion there is has to do with whether you come back as an octopus or whether animals have souls or not.
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I noticed that...

Typing too slow again CB? j/k
;)

*sigh*

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It's interesting they don't ever talk about any of her geological, meteorological or astronomical claims. But then, if they did that, and Nancy found out about it, she would label them "debunkers" and they wouldn't be welcome in her threads anymore.
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Now you dont know that... stop it, or I will get you... buh ha ha

;)
Kidding...

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It will all become clear when we enter the last weeks.

Approaching.
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Yeah, sure....whatever you say "Not a Fence Sitter."

Why don't you go shill on Nancy's thread? It could use some help.

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