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Still not a lot of discussion taking place over there either.
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Please comment about the Video regarding the high Resolution photo from ESA. I can send the photo to you if you will email me through GLP or just comment on your feeling of the ground clutter in the Hale Creator. I would greatly appreciate your input!



George...after having done astronomical photoprocessing for the past ten years, I can without any doubt at all tell you that those are photographic artifacts. AFter you have changed the brightness and contrast and zoomed in to the nth degree on a JPEG image, which is highly compressed to begin with, it's no doubt that you will see artifacts that have geometric shapes and sharp edges. After all, the picture is made of square pixels! When you zoom in like that, you end up with all sorts of interference and beat patterns that are not really in the image. Try it with most any JPEG image.

Besides...if NASA or the ESA, both with budgets being slashed nowdays, had an image that actually showed what you think that one shows, don't you think they would use it to gain funding for a crash program to send more probes and landers to Mars to closer investigate rather than just having it sitting in a group of images in a web page? It would be the sensation of the century and front page news everywhere! If they, on the other hand, were trying to hide it, why is it on a public web site in plain view of everyone?

Again, use your power of reasoning rather than following an internet kook on You-Tube.


Thanks for your comments . . . are you familiar with NASA Photograph NASA Photo PIA 10214. In the far left lower quadrant there is an artifact that resembles a statue. Any comments? At regular resolution it is only a speck . . . if you follow the plateau rim from the right to the extreme left there is a small speck . . . enlarge about 200% and you will see it. Thanks.
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Greatly enlarge any JPEG image and you'll see all sorts of artifacts. From that point, it's all in your imagination what you see...like looking at monters in the clouds.
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The real ***ZetaMax***: A history of hypocrisy.

4#Here is a quote from 88145..."No, actually it is the other way around. Nancy has said on several occasions that px would be here "long before 2012". Every day that passes with no sign of px is a defeat for you bunkers. All we have to do is sit back and wait and we shall see who is right.
BTW, when would you say "long before 2012" is?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 88145

Then comes the reply from ZetaMax to 88145...

"NOWHERE IN ZETATALK HAS IT BEEN STATED "LONG BEFORE" - THAT IS LIE."
***ZetaMax*** 8/4/2007.
Thread: Minneapolis Bridge Collapse - the Zetas Explain (Page 9)

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Well well look who just got caught in a straight out lie. Melfy has just been outed by Zetatalk itself as Ms LIEDer reiterates her very own original phrase pertaining to her rogue planet arriving well(long)before the year 2012....as it is too far out. (This is from January 2009 but I will dig out examples of where Nancy used this exact phrase in SOZT....EOZT prior to ZetaMax claiming otherwise). "Long before" and "too far out" in this instance have exactly the same meaning.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Question posed to Nancy...Ok, I dont get any of this, but I find it intriquing. Is this Zeta person from the planet of Zeta Reticuli? Is this person a higher being? Is this being channeled or is it real contact and Q&A? What is its ('their') full take on the 2012 buzz?

Nancy's answer...Please read the ZetaTalk.com website, as it is placed there for your edification. Nancy is a contactee, not an alien. We are from Zeta Reticuli. Nancy is in telepathic contact with us, and is not a channel. 2012 is the current establishment approved date, as it is too far out and will keep the public in their jobs until the last weeks, allowing the elite to escape to their bunkers without the mess of the public clogging the roadways.
-------------------------------------------------------

Yet another example of ZetaMax trying to defend the mythical integrity of Nancy/zetatalk with total misinformation. In this case Nancy herself provides damaging evidence against ZetaMax. Quite ironic.

Fence Sitting Test 4# = FAIL!!
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l_aff_ass

w_t_f_

This is supposed to be some kind of pathetic "expose"????

_absurd

Dude, "too far out" in no way equates to "long before". The word "too" is NOT a synomyn or even an antonym of the word "long". I don't know where you got your Anglisch, must have been loyned from them pygmies. BOI!!!

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 10/06/2009 09:14 AM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Dude, "too far out" in no way equates to "long before". The word "too" is NOT a synomyn or even an antonym of the word "long". I don't know where you got your Anglisch, must have been loyned from them pygmies. BOI!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"per the Zetas the shift will happen before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"We have stated that the pole shift will occur before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"The pole shift will happen before 2012"

Tick, tock, tick, tock......

Zetas Wrong Again!
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Dude, "too far out" in no way equates to "long before". The word "too" is NOT a synomyn or even an antonym of the word "long". I don't know where you got your Anglisch, must have been loyned from them pygmies. BOI!!!
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Dude, "too far out" in no way equates to "long before". The word "too" is NOT a synomyn or even an antonym of the word "long". I don't know where you got your Anglisch, must have been loyned from them pygmies. BOI!!!


[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"per the Zetas the shift will happen before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"We have stated that the pole shift will occur before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"The pole shift will happen before 2012"

Tick, tock, tick, tock......

Zetas Wrong Again!
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Uhhmmm, last I looked, it was still 2009!!!

idyut
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Uhhmmm, last I looked, it was still 2009!!!

idyut
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Which is getting pretty close to 2012.

Pushing your autobiography again I see.
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Uhhmmm, last I looked, it was still 2009!!!

:idyut:
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exactly, remember PX can move at light speed (even faster, why not!). So it may be nowhere to be seen even in late december 2011. Then BAM, its right on top of us in only a few minutes causing a pole shift that only freestore in his bunker will survive.

And even if it isn't travelling at faster than light speeds, remember it also is invisible since it emits infra red (making it a brown dwarf when it's not a water world). Therefore no visable light can reflect off it (or.. er something like that). Our puny human eyes are no match for PX.

And don't try and get clever about it having no previous effect on the other planets orbits during previous passes every 3600 years remember, thats several million close passes since the solar system was born). The planets only *appear* to have had a stable orbit for hundreds of millions of years as everything is placed back in its proper place by the zetas after it has passed through.

And don't mention the fact that none of the outer planets are not experiancing any perturbations by the invisible PX which surely must be out the somewhere, because DUH its just to the right of the sun. PX already passed into the inner solar system whilst being invisible (or just very quickly one day when no one was looking) and the zetas quickly correct any perturbations to the outer planets orbits just for the lulz so we really couldn't figure out what was going on. But being STO souls there is a very good reason for all of this. You will find out after you all drown in the pole shift (MAYBE).

Oh yeah and don't even question why is that that if the zetas can play with planets like they were just pool balls (remember how they tilt the earth freely), why can they not prevent all of this. That kinda questioning is why you will drown first!
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Posted for posterity.

Posted originally at

Thread: ZetaTalk LIVE Chat October 3 (Page 6)

Edited to include missing portion.


Nancy, you keep telling us that your imaging team imaged planet x back in 2003. However, JW Dell, who was your imaging expert, is over on the debunker thread saying that nothing was imaged. What do you say?

NancyTalk: last topic on this page.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
2003 was a shock to all who were staunch ZetaTalk fans, including Nancy herself.



The alleged source of those predictions did not prove their own existence by providing co-ordinates of its inbound journey, its arrival in the Solar System, and its closest passage to earth at the dates specified. Nothing has happened then or since to support these (the Zetas) statements.

Considering that 8 years of telling the world that it absolutely, positively will cause a pole shift on Planet Earth in May 2003, the predictions of the Planet X arrival in May 2003 is a failure of epic proportions.





Our statement then was that those who took steps to move to a safer location, or to gather supplies and educate themselves, would not regret this. When we are at the cusp of having earthquakes of greater magnitude, larger tides swamping the coastlines, and increasing crop shortages driving up the cost or availability of food, our words ring true.


And we continue to have earthquakes, tides and crop shortages. All can be attributed to other causes rather than Planet X.


Those individuals who were embarrassed by the failure of Planet X to pass,


Including those like me who were embarrassed by being gullible enough to believe this story.



even though it arrived as we predicted,


No, it did not arrive as predicted. If you disagree with my statement, provide the present coordinates of PX and perhaps we will get to the truth of this matter.



and with great accuracy on the RA and Dec of where it could be located during the inbound flight,


If it did not show up in May 2003 on its Zeta provided and projected trajectory, then it was not imaged during the time it was inbound. You can't have it both ways unless this planet mysteriously vanished.

No visual sighting of PX in May 2003 = no telescope imaging in 2002/2003
If it isn't there at the end date, it wasn't there before.



defended themselves in some cases by denying all, and in particular denying their part.


I don't deny my part in this, and I am getting over the embarrassment of having been involved. I wouldn't wish this on anyone else, so I will warn others away from this failed prediction.


This in no way changes the facts, which are of record.


Earth's record for the past 6 years speaks volumes to the "facts"



It is a reflection on the individual's ability to adhere to the truth, regardless of perceived damage to personal self image.


My desire to adhere to the truth motivated me to speak out when presented with an opportunity. In doing this I preserve my self-image.

Any damage to my self-image and credibility occurred with the non-appearance of PX in 2003. And unlike others, I will not resort to lies of any colour to cover up my mistakes.

J.William Dell

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Kudos to you for speaking out.

:>
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Ps. I'm back, no longer a ghost. :>

Too bad Maxi..
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Please comment about the Video regarding the high Resolution photo from ESA. I can send the photo to you if you will email me through GLP or just comment on your feeling of the ground clutter in the Hale Creator. I would greatly appreciate your input!



George...after having done astronomical photoprocessing for the past ten years, I can without any doubt at all tell you that those are photographic artifacts. AFter you have changed the brightness and contrast and zoomed in to the nth degree on a JPEG image, which is highly compressed to begin with, it's no doubt that you will see artifacts that have geometric shapes and sharp edges. After all, the picture is made of square pixels! When you zoom in like that, you end up with all sorts of interference and beat patterns that are not really in the image. Try it with most any JPEG image.

Besides...if NASA or the ESA, both with budgets being slashed nowdays, had an image that actually showed what you think that one shows, don't you think they would use it to gain funding for a crash program to send more probes and landers to Mars to closer investigate rather than just having it sitting in a group of images in a web page? It would be the sensation of the century and front page news everywhere! If they, on the other hand, were trying to hide it, why is it on a public web site in plain view of everyone?

Again, use your power of reasoning rather than following an internet kook on You-Tube.


Thanks for your comments . . . are you familiar with NASA Photograph NASA Photo PIA 10214. In the far left lower quadrant there is an artifact that resembles a statue. Any comments? At regular resolution it is only a speck . . . if you follow the plateau rim from the right to the extreme left there is a small speck . . . enlarge about 200% and you will see it. Thanks.


Greatly enlarge any JPEG image and you'll see all sorts of artifacts. From that point, it's all in your imagination what you see...like looking at monters in the clouds.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 719433


On this one you might not be correct. This is a rover panoramic shot (PIA 10214) and at the resolution of the object one sees the pixels are nowhere near individualized. There is shading and definite shape. It seems to be a geologic or carved object of some size. I have never seen an object of this configuration in a natural shot before. I don’t see how water or wind could carve such an artifact. Again I wish I had some way to place a copy of this artifact in this response. The object is near verticle and stands above its surroundings.

By-the-way, I don't endorse the comments on this video but this is the artifact I was talking about: (I just found this 5 minutes ago)

[link to www.youtube.com]


Last Edited by George B on 10/06/2009 11:34 AM
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All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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Uhhmmm, last I looked, it was still 2009!!!

idyut

exactly, remember PX can move at light speed (even faster, why not!). So it may be nowhere to be seen even in late december 2011. Then BAM, its right on top of us in only a few minutes causing a pole shift that only freestore in his bunker will survive.

And even if it isn't travelling at faster than light speeds, remember it also is invisible since it emits infra red (making it a brown dwarf when it's not a water world). Therefore no visable light can reflect off it (or.. er something like that). Our puny human eyes are no match for PX.

And don't try and get clever about it having no previous effect on the other planets orbits during previous passes every 3600 years remember, thats several million close passes since the solar system was born). The planets only *appear* to have had a stable orbit for hundreds of millions of years as everything is placed back in its proper place by the zetas after it has passed through.

And don't mention the fact that none of the outer planets are not experiancing any perturbations by the invisible PX which surely must be out the somewhere, because DUH its just to the right of the sun. PX already passed into the inner solar system whilst being invisible (or just very quickly one day when no one was looking) and the zetas quickly correct any perturbations to the outer planets orbits just for the lulz so we really couldn't figure out what was going on. But being STO souls there is a very good reason for all of this. You will find out after you all drown in the pole shift (MAYBE).

Oh yeah and don't even question why is that that if the zetas can play with planets like they were just pool balls (remember how they tilt the earth freely), why can they not prevent all of this. That kinda questioning is why you will drown first!
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Excellent comments!
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Uhhmmm, last I looked, it was still 2009!!!

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exactly, remember PX can move at light speed (even faster, why not!). So it may be nowhere to be seen even in late december 2011. Then BAM, its right on top of us in only a few minutes causing a pole shift that only freestore in his bunker will survive.

And even if it isn't travelling at faster than light speeds, remember it also is invisible since it emits infra red (making it a brown dwarf when it's not a water world). Therefore no visable light can reflect off it (or.. er something like that). Our puny human eyes are no match for PX.

And don't try and get clever about it having no previous effect on the other planets orbits during previous passes every 3600 years remember, thats several million close passes since the solar system was born). The planets only *appear* to have had a stable orbit for hundreds of millions of years as everything is placed back in its proper place by the zetas after it has passed through.

And don't mention the fact that none of the outer planets are not experiancing any perturbations by the invisible PX which surely must be out the somewhere, because DUH its just to the right of the sun. PX already passed into the inner solar system whilst being invisible (or just very quickly one day when no one was looking) and the zetas quickly correct any perturbations to the outer planets orbits just for the lulz so we really couldn't figure out what was going on. But being STO souls there is a very good reason for all of this. You will find out after you all drown in the pole shift (MAYBE).

Oh yeah and don't even question why is that that if the zetas can play with planets like they were just pool balls (remember how they tilt the earth freely), why can they not prevent all of this. That kinda questioning is why you will drown first!


Excellent comments!
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Yep, ZetaMax, you have prepared the PERFECT 'Prospectus' for the College of ZetaCult!

Get it circulated on the web!!!! :5:
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Uhhmmm, last I looked, it was still 2009!!!

idyut

exactly, remember PX can move at light speed (even faster, why not!). So it may be nowhere to be seen even in late december 2011. Then BAM, its right on top of us in only a few minutes causing a pole shift that only freestore in his bunker will survive.
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Subject: PX Speeeeeed????======>
Date: 10 Mar 2002 15:52:05 -0800

"(NancyL)
ZT: During math discussions on sci.astro, it has been
distilled that the speed of Planet X is some 4 times the speed of
light during its most rapid approach. Why is it assumed that light is
the FASTEST thing in the universe, re travel? Man thinks this because
it is something he can measure."
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder



So how does Px behave differently from the rest of the universe? simple,
it's nothing more than a delusion in Nancy's mind.
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Not forgetting...


Here is a free plug for Nancy's latest attempt at writing!

Yes! Nancy's all new "script"/short story whatever you want to call it, download the .pdf right from Nancy's pages here-
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

OK, so the story is plagiarized from "Water world",
and the plot is a fishing net,
science goes right out the windows,
illustrated by a six year old,
grammatically incorrect on every page.

But it does have a "hero" with a three legged dawg!



Nancy_coff
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Subject: PX Speeeeeed????======>
Date: 10 Mar 2002 15:52:05 -0800

"(NancyL)
ZT: During math discussions on sci.astro, it has been
distilled that the speed of Planet X is some 4 times the speed of
light during its most rapid approach. Why is it assumed that light is
the FASTEST thing in the universe, re travel? Man thinks this because
it is something he can measure."


So how does Px behave differently from the rest of the universe? simple,
it's nothing more than a delusion in Nancy's mind.
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She's completely misunderstood WHAT it is about the speed of light that makes it so special and inviolable. The fact that as you get closer to 'c' the amount of energy required to continue accelerating rises exponentially - so for anything to travel at c would require infinite energy, it's one of those beautiful 'truths' that holds everything together in a way that human science has spectacularly done. And the maths/physics supporting this is ROCK-SOLID!

Unlike Nancy, who is an arrogant rat, nibbling hopelessly at something she cannot even begin to comprehend the power of.
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Dude, "too far out" in no way equates to "long before". The word "too" is NOT a synomyn or even an antonym of the word "long". I don't know where you got your Anglisch, must have been loyned from them pygmies. BOI!!!


[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"per the Zetas the shift will happen before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"We have stated that the pole shift will occur before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"The pole shift will happen before 2012"

Tick, tock, tick, tock......

Zetas Wrong Again!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 719433


You guys are missing the fact that Maxie excells at playing word games. He baited you by saying that Nancy had never said "LONG BEFORE 2012". You thought he was saying that Nancy hadn't said the poleshift would happen before 2012, and Maxie KNEW you would think that. He slipped in the word "BEFORE" because he knew that wasn't the exact verbage Nancy had used. He knew he was technically correct and could bait you with an implication. You fell for it.

This is why I don't deal with Maxie anymore. He is simply here to bait people and play trolling word games.
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Ps. I'm back, no longer a ghost. :>

Too bad Maxi..
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Welcome back!
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Dude, "too far out" in no way equates to "long before". The word "too" is NOT a synomyn or even an antonym of the word "long". I don't know where you got your Anglisch, must have been loyned from them pygmies. BOI!!!


[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"per the Zetas the shift will happen before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"We have stated that the pole shift will occur before 2012"

[link to www.zetatalk.com]

"The pole shift will happen before 2012"

Tick, tock, tick, tock......

Zetas Wrong Again!


You guys are missing the fact that Maxie excells at playing word games. He baited you by saying that Nancy had never said "LONG BEFORE 2012". You thought he was saying that Nancy hadn't said the poleshift would happen before 2012, and Maxie KNEW you would think that. He slipped in the word "BEFORE" because he knew that wasn't the exact verbage Nancy had used. He knew he was technically correct and could bait you with an implication. You fell for it.

This is why I don't deal with Maxie anymore. He is simply here to bait people and play trolling word games.
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Correction: Maxie slipped in the word "LONG" because he knew that was not the exact verbage Nancy had used.
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But look what happened to IMO(John Oliver) when he did that. Nancy took his image and ran with it... twisting the truth and misrepresenting the facts and attacking him mercilessly for telling the truth- that nothing was there.
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Regrettably,

I remember.


JWD
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Never underestimate a skillfull and shameless liar. The images which were provided before showed NO NEW PLANET IN OUR SKIES, but did that stop Nancy from proclaiming that they upheld her claims?
 Quoting: Menow 405501


I don't honestly expect Nancy to provide coordinates, as even she realizes this jig is up. But, she could prove me wrong and actually give out the alleged location.

Considering PX is supposed to be in the inner solar system, it would show up pretty large in the viewfinder these days. Hard to miss.

Regards
JWD
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If she'll give coordinates, I'll be happy to take the images.
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I appreciate the offer.

We shall see what transpires from the suggestion given.

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4#Here is a quote from 88145..."No, actually it is the other way around. Nancy has said on several occasions that px would be here "long before 2012". Every day that passes with no sign of px is a defeat for you bunkers. All we have to do is sit back and wait and we shall see who is right.
BTW, when would you say "long before 2012" is?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 88145

Then comes the reply from ZetaMax to 88145...

"NOWHERE IN ZETATALK HAS IT BEEN STATED "LONG BEFORE" - THAT IS LIE."
***ZetaMax*** 8/4/2007.
Thread: Minneapolis Bridge Collapse - the Zetas Explain (Page 9)

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Well well look who just got caught in a straight out lie. Melfy has just been outed by Zetatalk itself as Ms LIEDer reiterates her very own original phrase pertaining to her rogue planet arriving well(long)before the year 2012....as it is too far out. (This is from January 2009 but I will dig out examples of where Nancy used this exact phrase in SOZT....EOZT prior to ZetaMax claiming otherwise). "Long before" and "too far out" in this instance have exactly the same meaning.

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Question posed to Nancy...Ok, I dont get any of this, but I find it intriquing. Is this Zeta person from the planet of Zeta Reticuli? Is this person a higher being? Is this being channeled or is it real contact and Q&A? What is its ('their') full take on the 2012 buzz?

Nancy's answer...Please read the ZetaTalk.com website, as it is placed there for your edification. Nancy is a contactee, not an alien. We are from Zeta Reticuli. Nancy is in telepathic contact with us, and is not a channel. 2012 is the current establishment approved date, as it is too far out and will keep the public in their jobs until the last weeks, allowing the elite to escape to their bunkers without the mess of the public clogging the roadways.
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Yet another example of ZetaMax trying to defend the mythical integrity of Nancy/zetatalk with total misinformation. In this case Nancy herself provides damaging evidence against ZetaMax. Quite ironic.

Fence Sitting Test 4# = FAIL!!
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


While it may be entertaining to observe the word play of ZetaMax, his contribution to constructive debate is zero.(nil to the zero challenged)

With that in mind, and considering he appears to be here only to stir the pot and push hot buttons.

Does he deserve the time and energy expended?

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Uhhmmm, last I looked, it was still 2009!!!

idyut

Which is getting pretty close to 2012.

Pushing your autobiography again I see.
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LOL
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Kudos to you for speaking out.

:>
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And I thank you for providing that opportunity.

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Well gang, it was fun while it lasted.

My IP has been banned, and I just don't have time to search for a proxy that works so I can post. I'm not sure what I did -- I've never even posted out of this topic -- but it may be that very old grudges never die.

Anyway, to the debunkers, keep up the good work. You'll be missed.

And to the bunkers, well, I'll even miss most of you.

Best wishes to all, no matter where you stand.

I shall now die screaming in the Pole Shift.

Salut!
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Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
Well gang, it was fun while it lasted.

My IP has been banned, and I just don't have time to search for a proxy that works so I can post. I'm not sure what I did -- I've never even posted out of this topic -- but it may be that very old grudges never die.

Anyway, to the debunkers, keep up the good work. You'll be missed.

And to the bunkers, well, I'll even miss most of you.

Best wishes to all, no matter where you stand.

I shall now die screaming in the Pole Shift.

Salut!
 Quoting: Returner 787753



Just come back when unbanned ... or ask a mod to unban. The debunking has to go on !
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I can try, I suppose. Who are the Mods?

Just finding a proxy that let me back in was tough!
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I can try, I suppose. Who are the Mods?

Just finding a proxy that let me back in was tough!
 Quoting: Returner 787753


DrPostman would be the right one I think, he is taking part in the Zeta-debunking too:

DrPostman(at)gmail.com

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Let him know your IP, he will help you I guess.
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