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Wow, that bit about 2012 being 'too far out' is going to prove quite problematic for Ms. Lieder.

It'll be 2010 in a couple of months -- which doesn't leave much room for excuses.
 Quoting: Returner 997


Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure as CB would say.

Actually from Nancy you can learn the do/don't do for a cult. NEVER bring out a deadline. While approaching 2012 I think its pretty easy to make up a cult or to make money with book that stupid people like the Zetards are willing to buy.

Í'm off to write on my "Planet X is not outside earth, but inside earth, because earth is hollow" - book.
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I'll bet that Nancy's next claim will involve the benelovent and wise Zetas placing the entire Earth in a 'time loop,' which keeps us repeating the same day over and over, so that while our calendars move forward, it's *really* always sometime in June 2011.

Those crazy Zetas and their whizz-bang technology!
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I'll bet that Nancy's next claim will involve the benelovent and wise Zetas placing the entire Earth in a 'time loop,' which keeps us repeating the same day over and over, so that while our calendars move forward, it's *really* always sometime in June 2011.

Those crazy Zetas and their whizz-bang technology!
 Quoting: Returner 997


I still wonder why the great Zetas if they are so powerful and want to help us not just blow Planet X into pieces ...

... btw you guys: Do you believe Nancy makes this up for getting attention or sell some books ..... or does she REALLY think its true what she claims (eg. Is she hearing voices because she is schizophrenic or something ?)
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Wow, that bit about 2012 being 'too far out' is going to prove quite problematic for Ms. Lieder.

It'll be 2010 in a couple of months -- which doesn't leave much room for excuses.
 Quoting: Returner 997


Excuses for Nancy!

The Gluons start an attack on Zeta Prime and Px is needed to help with the war effort (ie. sorry guys we are out of here!")

Raging space flu hits Px and the GC quarantines the whole planet in the fifth dimension.

Px warp engine goes critical and they have to shed energy ( But "we'll be back!!")

NASA figures out where the rubber band is keeping Px stationary and cut it with a space based laser (sproing! wheee!)

"Outbreak of war with the Deltans requires Px as WMD, zetas engage warp drive with an Arnie like "We'll be back!"

"Imminent failure of planet core requires "dry dock" of Px for repairs"

"No one is ready for the fourth dimension shift so the zetas will go around and try again in 3,600 years."

I told her once before I could rewrite some of her material and make it more fantastic, things like:

Zetas control the core of their planet for masses of geo-thermal energy!

Px avoids being fried by the sun by phase shifting!

Zetas have run out of sliced human pizza topping!

Zetas put in a hyper-ramp so the "dark twin" can hop over the stalled earth and go around again!

Nancy's implant goes haywire when using her microwave to heat her worm soup and turns her into a blithering idiot! (oops, thats history,)

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I'll bet that Nancy's next claim will involve the benelovent and wise Zetas placing the entire Earth in a 'time loop,' which keeps us repeating the same day over and over, so that while our calendars move forward, it's *really* always sometime in June 2011.

Those crazy Zetas and their whizz-bang technology!
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PLEASE don't give her any ideas!!!
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CB came up with this one..

Here's one I just thought of:

After a few years of supply shortages, revisions and firmware changes, the "Zetas" upgrade the chip in Nancy's head with the latest technology and she discovers that everything she said was mis-translated. It turns out that "Planet X" was really a galactic strip club that opened in 2003 near the sun featuring exotic pole dancers. 2012 was "too far out" for the arrival of their new pool tables.

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... btw you guys: Do you believe Nancy makes this up for getting attention or sell some books ..... or does she REALLY think its true what she claims (eg. Is she hearing voices because she is schizophrenic or something ?)
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IMO, she's definitely suffering from some kind of delusional psychosis. I think she believed herself until May 2003, but since then things have been crumbling and now it is more a matter of saving-face and attempting to salvage something from the wreckage.

In addition, she has a HUGE, planet-sized ego which loves the idea of being some kind of high priestess/guru.

I have the feeling that the commercial aspect has never been the most important thing for Nancy (just as well really!) - she is doing it all for her own very powerful psychological reasons.

The 'sock-puppet' behaviour is very telling; her other 'personas' become evident during such sessions.
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Well, if Nancy decides to use my time loop idea, I demand credit for it!

My Zeta name is Doofoframubiprolops.

It the ancient tongue of the Zetas, it means "Billy Ray."
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Here is an example of Melfy sockpuppet ing, well,
Melfy!!

Here are the links to page one and two of a thread started by an AC and adressed to Nancy and ZetaMax....

Debunking Zetas, for Nancy and ZetaMax(10/29/2007)
Thread: Debunking Zetas, for Nancy and ZetaMax
Thread: Debunking Zetas, for Nancy and ZetaMax (Page 2)

Highlights include:

Page One

Those 2 lying douchbags won't answer. And if they do, it'll be gibberish


Then in reply to AC 264154...we have a response by Sock Puppet....

Those 2 lying douchbags won't answer. And if they do, it'll be gibberish[/]

This is just mean. Why is this necessary?


"Sock Puppet turns out be be ZetaMax using an alias to defend himself
and Nancy. Then it's ZetaMax's turn....

Those 2 lying douchbags won't answer. And if they do, it'll be gibberish

answer


Page Two
Then ZetaMax is asked to show proof of his World Trade Center ID card.....to which a reply by ZetaMax is posted.
Then in comes Sock Puppet to back up his mate ZetaMax....


Oh PLEASE!! At best you've shown ZetaMax has a faulty memory - not that he's lying. He's certainly NOT lying about having to have TWO ID's.
How do you explain THAT Prof-Rabbit??


Then after responding to DrPostman our friend Sock Puppet proceeds to speak on behalf of ZetaMax again...


Of course it was expired! It was also recovered at the site. ZetaMax said it was in the drawer of his desk. What is so hard to figure out here?


Then it goes back to ZetaMax for a couple of postings. Sock Puppet and ZetaMax are simply the same person, nothing unusual for GLP, but when you dig a bit deeper an intriguing picture of deceit emerges around the character named "ZetaMax".

PS:I won't give too much away yet but the point here, as if we didn't already know is that ***ZetaMax*** is NOT what they appear to be. I have uncovered some very surprising statments made by the "person" behind the "mask" of ***ZetaMax*** . These of course have been made under different "identities", both member and AC. Any information to be shared is directly from the postings of the poster/s themselves.
As the GLP disclaimer points out Not all posts on this website are intended as truthful or factual assertion by their authors. Some users of this website are participating in internet role playing, with or without the use of an avatar. NO post on this website should be considered factual information on face value alone. Users are encouraged to USE DISCERNMENT and do their own follow up research while reading and posting on this website.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Where's your PROOF???
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Where's Nancy's?
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Where's your PROOF???
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


YOU are the proof Melfy!

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And if the crystal skull mythology is BUNK then who is pushing this CHIT??? For kris sake, "they" made an Indiana Jones movie about them!!


You should do your research...


Many crystal skulls are claimed to be pre-Columbian, usually attributed to the Aztec or Maya civilizations. Mesoamerican art has numerous representations of skulls, but none of the skulls in museum collections come from documented excavations. Research carried out on several crystal skulls at the British Museum in 1967, 1996 and again in 2004 has shown that the indented lines marking the teeth (for these skulls had no separate jawbone, unlike the Mitchell-Hedges skull) were carved using jeweler's equipment (rotary tools) developed in the 19th century, making a supposed pre-Columbian origin problematic. The type of crystal was determined by examination of chlorite inclusions, and is only to be found in Madagascar and Brazil, and thus unobtainable or unknown within pre-Columbian Mesoamerica. The study concluded that the skulls were crafted in the 19th century in Germany, quite likely at workshops in the town of Idar-Oberstein renowned for crafting objects made from imported Brazilian quartz at this period in the late 19th century.

It has been established that both the British Museum and Paris's Musée de l'Homme crystal skulls were originally sold by the French antiquities dealer Eugène Boban, who was operating in Mexico City between 1860 and 1880. The British Museum crystal skull transited through New York's Tiffany's, whilst the Musée de l'Homme's crystal skull was donated by Alphonse Pinart, an ethnographer who had bought it from Boban.

An investigation carried out by the Smithsonian Institution in 1992 on a crystal skull provided by an anonymous source who claimed to have purchased it in Mexico City in 1960 and that it was of Aztec origin concluded that it, too, was made in recent years. According to the Smithsonian, Boban acquired the crystal skulls he sold from sources in Germany – findings that are in keeping with those of the British Museum.

A detailed study of the British Museum and Smithsonian crystal skulls was accepted for publication by the Journal of Archaeological Science in May 2008. Using electron microscopy and X-ray crystallography, a team of British and American researchers found that the British Museum skull was worked with a harsh abrasive substance such as corundum or diamond, and shaped using a rotary disc tool made from some suitable metal. The Smithsonian specimen had been worked with a different abrasive, namely the silicon-carbon compound carborundum which is a synthetic substance manufactured using modern industrial techniques. Since the synthesis of carborundum dates only to the 1890s and its wider availability to the 20th century, the researchers concluded "[t]he suggestion is that it was made in the 1950s or later".

and

Another novel and historically unfounded speculation ties in the legend of the crystal skulls with the completion of the current Maya calendar b'ak'tun-cycle on December 21, 2012, claiming the re-uniting of the thirteen mystical skulls will forestall a catastrophe allegedly predicted or implied by the ending of this calendar. An airing of this claim appeared (among an assortment of others made) in The Mystery of the Crystal Skulls, a 2008 program produced for the Sci Fi Channel in May and shown on Discovery Channel Canada in June. Interviewees included Richard Hoagland, who attempted to link the skulls and the Maya to life on Mars, and David Hatcher Childress, proponent of lost Atlantean civilizations and anti-gravity claims.

Crystal skulls are also referenced by author Drunvalo Melchizedek in his book Serpent of Light. He writes that he came across indigenous Mayan descendants in possession of crystal skulls at ceremonies at temples in the Yucatan, which he writes contained souls of ancient Mayans who had entered the skulls to await the time when their ancient knowledge would once again be required. The book is a log of the authors experiences, which are related in a manner requiring suspension of judgment.
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

Thank you for posting that. I knew it was bogus, but I didn't have any written proof of it. So you see, Max, just because "they" make a movie about something doesn't mean it's true. Just because it's on youtube, doesn't mean it's true, and just because someone claims on the internet to talk to invisible aliens doesn't mean it's true. There are lots of people that write fiction for entertainment purposes only, and there are people that invent outrageous new age ideas and peddle them to the gullible.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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There are lots of people that write fiction for entertainment purposes only, and there are people that invent outrageous new age ideas and peddle them to the gullible.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


That is something Max knows ALL about!
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You just made a very sweeping statement on all of Sitchens research work, and I'd like to spar over some of it.
Stimulating debate is always good ;o)

Be sure you check out these links before you do:
[link to www.ianlawton.com]
[link to jcolavito.tripod.com]
[link to www.ianlawton.com]
[link to web.archive.org]
[link to www.sitchiniswrong.com]

But before I begin, could you give me your theories on the following questions?

Just to see if we're near the same page and get the ball rolling ;o)
1) Who built the 3 Gizah pyramids and how was it accomplished?
What evidence is there to support the main pyramid being built by Pharoah Khufu?

I hope you don't mind if I attempt an answer. From what I
have read there is a good deal of evidence to support the
building during the time of Khufu. One very interesting
person you should look into is Mark Lehner. He went to
Egypt on behalf of the Edgar Cayce group ARE back in 1972
and spent 13 years there coming away convinced that the
ancient Egyptians really did know how to build them. Here
is an interview on NOVA done several years ago you might
find interesting:
[link to www.pbs.org]
I like paying attention to people like Lehner who have done
the actual grunt work on the ground, especially when they
had a different point of view before doing that work.
BTW, it looks like they found some proof of those workers
that Lehner was looking for:
[link to www.cnn.com]

And a few more links you might find interesting:
[link to web.archive.org]
[link to jcolavito.tripod.com]
[link to web.archive.org]
[link to www.independent.co.uk]

Some of the above will conflict, but that is the nature of
archeology. Some questions will never be answered and many
will forever be hotly debated. I gathered these links
years ago (hence a lot of archive.org use) when dealing with
someone on usenet who tried to claim that ancient people just
weren't capable of creating such spectacular feats. I found
that to be more than a little bit bigoted of them and did
a bit of digging. I'm sure I never convinced that person
that aliens didn't build those things but it doesn't matter
because I learned a great deal about how our ancestors were
just as smart as we are today.

2) By Who and by what means were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed?


That's another one I'm fascinated with. The claimed
location of those cities, at the southern end of the
Dead Sea, is a very geologically active area. I watched
a good show on the Discovery channel years ago that I
wish I could cite but I can't find it. Instead I found
this web site which goes into a good bit of detail on
what might have happened there and why, along with a
lot of Bible talk (if that doesn't bother you). I'm
not so big on the supernatural "Its all God's Fault"
stuff but I do like the scientific possibilities
presented. I think they suffered some horrific eruptions
of a kind we are not so used to on the Earth, but that has
some historical evidence of having occurred infrequently
in the past - especially when conditions were just right
for it: [link to www.totheends.com]

I also happen to believe that the eruption of Thera was the
basis for the Exodus plagues in the Bible, but that we
can discuss at another time or on another thread.
 Quoting: DrPostman



Dr. Postman , Anonymous Coward User ID: 789874 , KeepingitReal

Thanks for your comments.

Questions 1;

Dr. Postman has provided a fair amount of link research material which I will peruse on the Great pyramid.
Thanks Doc. ;o(

I will post in a week or so with my observations after researching those links, re Pyramid/Khufu.

It's Thanksgiving weekend in Canada and family comes first.

Question 1a)

Thanks to AC for the video of Wally Wallington on moving stones around. Could explain Edward Leedskalnin method (Coral Castle) as well,although he is reported to have said he used magnetism to move the rocks.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Do you think Wally or Ed could move these puppies?

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
[link to vejprty.com]

General comments on rock moving.

1) Modern science can show methods that may have been used to move large weights around with the knowledge and equipment available during earlier times.
However, modern science cannot with certainty point to any one method as the means used.
Educated theories (and in some cases more than one) is the best that can be provided, as we were not there at the time to witness the event.

2) A more compelling question, (to me anyways) is why the hell would they?
What would motivate our ancestors to do all that physical work?
We certainly don't see that kind of desire in modern man.

Question 2)

Sodom and Gomorrah illicits a different response from different folk.

AC789874 doesn't believe the towns existed, and the biblical story is false.

Dr. Postmans theory suggests geologic upheaval.

So I'll address this to Dr. Postman for comment.
(I have no difficulty including the bible as a historical reference)

Basing these comments on the biblical story of Genesis re: Abraham.

The "angels" when talking to Abraham, told him what they were about to do to Sodom and Gomorrah.
This would indicate pre knowledge of the coming event.

When the "angels" told Abrahams nephew Lot to leave Sodom, they were willing to hold off the upheaval until he reached Zoar (another of the 5 cities on the plain). Once he had reached that point they would destroy Sodom.
This would indicate that the "upheaval" could be initiated by the "angels".

Further, Eyewitness Abraham says that the blast from the direction of Sodom was like the smoke of a huge chimney
and hot air was felt by him at his location. Nephew Lot lost his wife who was turned into Salt (or vapour depending on translation) as she was looking back at Sodom (caught in a blast?)

Based on the eyewitness accounts, and the "Angels" ability to time the event, would not indicate that geologic
activity caused Sodom and Gomorrahs destruction.

Any other possible causes?

Happy Thanksgiving to all.
We Canadians have a lot to be thankful for ;o)

Kindest Regards
J.William Dell
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I'll bet that Nancy's next claim will involve the benelovent and wise Zetas placing the entire Earth in a 'time loop,' which keeps us repeating the same day over and over, so that while our calendars move forward, it's *really* always sometime in June 2011.

Those crazy Zetas and their whizz-bang technology!
 Quoting: Returner 997



Shades of "groundhog day" ;o)

I don't think you'll get credit for that one, "Billy Ray"




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AC789874 doesn't believe the towns existed, and the biblical story is false.
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AC789874 her ... actually I mean I dont know if they really existed and if there is more prove than the bible story, which I believe is wrong in some way. I think theres lots of good stuff in the bible, but there was no Jesus in person IMHO ... its all metaphors, very good ones.

"Pharmacratic inquisition" is a good docu to watch on this topic:

[link to video.google.de]

But i go to off topic now ... thy for your answers JWD.
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The skulls are fake, debunked long time ago.


No, they aren't...I saw them in the latest Indiana Jones movie.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Do you always have to be so flippant??
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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ZetaMax
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Know what? I ***AM*** a FENCE SITTER ... and Menow is also correct - I **bait** debunkers because bottom line, these dudes are either paid shills, or smug tunnel-visioned myopic ignoramuses.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***



And you don't bait believers because they AREN'T tunnel-visioned myopic ignoramuses?

Your view on this is fascinating. Why is it you don't bait belivers -- you being a fence sitter and all -- despite their acting in precisely the same way as debunkers (sans evidence)?

What can debunkers DO to get on your good side (assuming you have one)? They left Nancy's threads, and yet you follow them here ON THEIR OWN THREAD because...?

Would you prefer they be unable to post at all?

Why don't you bait believers in the same way, if you are truly on the fence?
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The only fence Max is sitting on is the one surrounding Nancy's property....waiting for her to hand him his next morsel.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

hey listen guys- i go away for a few days and i got 9 pages to read through.. slow it down willyas???
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Max's motives for posting here are fairly obvious.

He's desperate to keep ZetaTalk out in front of 'the people.' He knows that if he limits his postings to ZT-friendly threads, he'll be read by half a dozen people over the course of the next month. ZT is dying, and even Max won't deny that.

He's no fence sitter. Quite the contrary -- he's either Nancy herself or someone nearly as committed to the tripe that is ZT.

Pretty sad for him/her, really. The only people left willing to talk about ZT are the very people who think it's a joke.

Poor old sock!
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Do you always have to be so flippant??
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


It's called humor. Perhaps you should look it up.
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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Wonder why Andrew and Gerard havent posted much in the last days.
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:>


Off topic ;o)

Prof. Rabbit,

Now that you have joined the GLP group,I find that you are located in Australia. I wonder if you might provide some information?

My wife won a 1 week trip to Australia for 2 this year. We are going in May 2010 (middle of fall your season) and she's taking me!!! ;o)

I have extended our vacation by 2 weeks. If i'm going that far, I want to look around. Landing in Sydney, leaving from Sydney.

We are looking for things to do, down under and I hoped you might give me a perspective from one who lives there.
Some things to do on our walkabout? ;o)

If it's not appropriate to continue this in thread, please PM me at your convenience.

Kindest Regards
J.William Dell
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2 weeks in total??

well tahts about enough time to have a day at every busstop and a day in the bus...


most people dont know how big australia really is.....


all but 2 us states are smaller than our 2 biggest..

so when you`all bragg about how big texas is...

just remember

our northern qld police have to cover

[link to www.oesr.qld.gov.au]

thats not central or southern qld- thats nth qld....

now see how big texas is LOL


ohhhh....
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Know what? I ***AM*** a FENCE SITTER ... and Menow is also correct - I **bait** debunkers because bottom line, these dudes are either paid shills, or smug tunnel-visioned myopic ignoramuses.



And you don't bait believers because they AREN'T tunnel-visioned myopic ignoramuses?

Your view on this is fascinating. Why is it you don't bait belivers -- you being a fence sitter and all -- despite their acting in precisely the same way as debunkers (sans evidence)?

What can debunkers DO to get on your good side (assuming you have one)? They left Nancy's threads, and yet you follow them here ON THEIR OWN THREAD because...?

Would you prefer they be unable to post at all?

Why don't you bait believers in the same way, if you are truly on the fence?
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>> Why don't you bait believers in the same way, if you are truly on the fence?

Because the "debunker/shills" already have that task "fully manned". There isn't even room on the "practice squad".

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LOL ... Gerard is very happy about the normal Earthquakes of the last weeks:

[link to poleshift.ning.com]

As we all see, read and notice there is an uptick in earthchanges. Last week we had the quake in Sumatra
and this week we had 4 large quakes in the pacific.

I believe that the wobble has increased and is noticalbe now. Read the comments about compasses on this page. And follow the discussion about wierd compass behaviour.

I also feel that the pacific area will deal with a large event soon. Possibly more devistating then the tsunami that hit Indonesia at the end of December 2004.

Last week was only the start. And i feel that by this time next year things will be totaly different. Be prepared.
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Hang on there, MaxyNance!

Are you saying you'd be willing to poke the sticks of Fact at the believers of Foolishness if you were given a chance?

C'mon, just give it a try, just once. Pretend I'm Andrew and I just attributed a mudslide to PX as it 'roared past the halted Earth' and 'emitted a bunch of Repulsion Rays.'

Now, ready, set -- GO!
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So how about those crystal skulls, Max? Every time you get nailed down with facts you avoid the subject. It isn't so hard to admit it when evidence destroys your preconceived ideas. You might even earn some respect here.

How can you say we bait bunkers, when we don't even post on their thread? They actually come here looking for us. As usual, logic is not your strong suit, is it?
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Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!
and that is not a dig at mr dell- he has my respect for hving the balls to step up and say- i was wrong....

im in qld so long way away


in sydney- there is a really good observitory (bit of nightglow tho)

about 4 hrs drive is the parkes dish (as in the moffie- THE DISH)

if you can see it moving at night- (or even better- day and night..)

woohoo...


im not up to current ham activity down there- but look up the hornsby radio club (afaik still in the phone book)- they are the people that organised the hornsby radio meet (several racecourses over the years) (2m ch 7000 was the weekly vk broadcast...

they may be able to point you towards the dapto moon bounce station memebers (if so- please contact me )

cause that would be sooooo cool
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It's always amusing when the bunkers post with so many 'I feel' and 'it seems' and 'I expect' tags.

Yeah, that's how science is done. Wid your widdle feewings!

Ooooh, I feel iron (Fe) has an atomic number of 13! I feel force can be expressed not as F=ma but as the number of snuggy wuggy teddy bears times all the butterflies in the world plus a million zillion big hugs!

wtf
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just to show the size

texas is big right??


no texas is 1/3 of the size of queensland (one of our states..)


now western austalia (a state) is 2,525,500 sq km

texas is a puny 678,054 sq km



so you could put 5 texas in w.a and 3 in qld.......

:-O

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