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Debunker Talk LIVE Chat 24/7 - A debunker's paradise!!

 
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MEXICO CITY - Apolinario Chile Pixtun is tired of being bombarded with frantic questions about the Mayan calendar supposedly "running out" on Dec. 21, 2012. After all, it's not the end of the world.

Or is it?

Definitely not, the Mayan elder insists. "I came back from England last year and, man, they had me fed up with this stuff."

It can only get worse for him. Next month, Hollywood's "2012" opens in cinemas, featuring earthquakes, meteor showers and a tsunami dumping an aircraft carrier on the White House.

At Cornell University, Ann Martin, who runs the "Ask an Astronomer" Web site, says people are scared.

"It's too bad that we're getting e-mails from fourth-graders who are saying that they're too young to die," Martin said. "We had a mother of two young children who was afraid she wouldn't live to see them grow up."

Chile Pixtun, a Guatemalan, says the doomsday theories spring from Western, not Mayan, ideas.

A significant time period for the Maya does end on the date, and enthusiasts have found a series of astronomical alignments they say coincide in 2012, including one that happens roughly only once every 25,800 years.

But most archaeologists, astronomers and Maya Indians say the only thing likely to hit Earth is a meteor shower of New Age philosophy, pop astronomy, Internet doomsday rumors and TV specials — such as one on the History Channel that mixes predictions from Nostradamus and the Maya and asks: "Is 2012 the year the cosmic clock finally winds down to zero days, zero hope?"

Grains of truth
It may sound all too much like other doomsday scenarios of recent decades — the 1987 Harmonic Convergence, the Jupiter Effect or "Planet X." But this one has some grains of archaeological truth.

One of them is Monument Six.

Found at an obscure ruin in southern Mexico during highway construction in the 1960s, the stone tablet almost didn't survive; the site was largely paved over, and parts of the tablet were looted.

It's unique in that the remaining parts contain the equivalent of the date 2012. The inscription describes something that is supposed to occur in 2012 involving Bolon Yokte, a mysterious Mayan god associated with both war and creation.

However — shades of Indiana Jones — erosion and a crack in the stone make the end of the passage almost illegible.

Archaeologist Guillermo Bernal of Mexico's National Autonomous University interprets the last eroded glyphs as maybe saying, "He will descend from the sky."

Spooky, perhaps, but Bernal notes there are other inscriptions at Maya sites for dates far beyond 2012 — including one that roughly translates into the year 4772.

And anyway, the Maya in the drought-stricken Yucatan peninsula have bigger worries than 2012.

"If I went to some Mayan-speaking communities and asked people what is going to happen in 2012, they wouldn't have any idea," said Jose Huchim, a Yucatan Mayan archaeologist. "That the world is going to end? They wouldn't believe you. We have real concerns these days, like rain."

Talent for astronomy
The Maya civilization, which reached its height from the year 300 to 900, had a talent for astronomy.

Its Long Count calendar begins in 3114 B.C., marking time in roughly 394-year periods known as Baktuns. Thirteen was a significant, sacred number for the Maya, and the 13th Baktun ends around Dec. 21, 2012.

"It's a special anniversary of creation," said David Stuart, a specialist in Mayan epigraphy at the University of Texas at Austin. "The Maya never said the world is going to end, they never said anything bad would happen necessarily, they're just recording this future anniversary on Monument Six."

Bernal suggests that apocalypse is "a very Western, Christian" concept projected onto the Maya, perhaps because Western myths are "exhausted."

What about the galactic alignment?
If it were all mythology, perhaps it could be written off.

But some say the Maya knew another secret: the Earth's axis wobbles, slightly changing the alignment of the stars every year. Once every 25,800 years, the sun lines up with the center of our Milky Way galaxy on a winter solstice, the sun's lowest point in the horizon.

That will happen on Dec. 21, 2012, when the sun appears to rise in the same spot where the bright center of galaxy sets.

Another spooky coincidence?

"The question I would ask these guys is, so what?" says Phil Plait, an astronomer who runs the "Bad Astronomy" blog. He says the alignment doesn't fall precisely in 2012, and distant stars exert no force that could harm Earth.

"They're really super-duper trying to find anything astronomical they can to fit that date of 2012," Plait said.

Time of transformation?
But author John Major Jenkins says his two-decade study of Mayan ruins indicate the Maya were aware of the alignment and attached great importance to it.

"If we want to honor and respect how the Maya think about this, then we would say that the Maya viewed 2012, as all cycle endings, as a time of transformation and renewal," said Jenkins.

As the Internet gained popularity in the 1990s, so did word of the "fateful" date, and some began worrying about 2012 disasters the Mayas never dreamed of.

Author Lawrence Joseph says a peak in explosive storms on the surface of the sun could knock out North America's power grid for years, triggering food shortages, water scarcity — a collapse of civilization. Solar peaks occur about every 11 years, but Joseph says there's evidence the 2012 peak could be "a lulu."

While pressing governments to install protection for power grids, Joseph counsels readers not to "use 2012 as an excuse to not live in a healthy, responsible fashion. I mean, don't let the credit cards go up."

What about a pole shift?
Another History Channel program titled "Decoding the Past: Doomsday 2012: End of Days" says a galactic alignment or magnetic disturbances could somehow trigger a "pole shift."

"The entire mantle of the earth would shift in a matter of days, perhaps hours, changing the position of the north and south poles, causing worldwide disaster," a narrator proclaims. "Earthquakes would rock every continent, massive tsunamis would inundate coastal cities. It would be the ultimate planetary catastrophe."

The idea apparently originates with a 19th-century Frenchman, Charles Etienne Brasseur de Bourbourg, a priest-turned-archaeologist who got it from his study of ancient Mayan and Aztec texts.

Scientists say that, at best, the poles might change location by one degree over a million years, with no sign that it would start in 2012.

While long discredited, Brasseur de Bourbourg proves one thing: Westerners have been trying for more than a century to pin doomsday scenarios on the Maya. And while fascinated by ancient lore, advocates seldom examine more recent experiences with apocalypse predictions.

"No one who's writing in now seems to remember that the last time we thought the world was going to end, it didn't," says Martin, the astronomy Webmaster. "There doesn't seem to be a lot of memory that things were fine the last time around."
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

Amen. Good article.

Go to any community of real Mayas today and ask them about 2012. Depending on how connected they are with the outside world, they will either not have a clue what you are talking about, or they will laugh at you. That is the truth.

As I have said before, I even disagree with the correlation, based on my own research and the wisdom and testimony of people I was blessed to know, I am convinced that the dreaded date passed more than 20 years ago. The ironic part is that the calender cycle ended in the Spring of 1988, just months after the "Harmonic Convergence". There were chicken littles and new age flakes everywhere, whipped into a frenzy. Dancing naked in the moonlight on pyramids and invoking gods whose names they can't even pronounce. According to them, the Harmonic Convergence was supposed to change the world and prepare it for the shift in 2012 "as predicted by the Mayan calendar". If they had waited just a few more months, they could have truly celebrated the end of the great Mayan cycle. ROFLMAO.

Nothing new. I have seen so many doomsdays come and go, and none of them came to anything.
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I'd still like to punch a Zeta in the face for being such a lier.
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I'd still like to punch a Zeta in the face for being such a lier.
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Well ... I can feel ya ... I am not for violence though ... but sometimes reading Nancys bullshit and some posts by Andrew it is hard to control oneselves feelings.
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

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Another pearl from her thread today:

Can the zetas tell us what is with the mysterious roars in the san diego region that sound like planes about to crash?

SOZT
We have mentioned that during the week of rotation stoppage, the Earth groans in her agony.
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Rock under stress is not SILENT. Earthquake sensitives feel the emanations that come from rock under stress, the changes in electromagnetic flow through the rock, as do animal who try to flee from the area. But humans in general can hear the groaning. Where this has been treated as a hum in the past, it has stepped up to become the sound of a distant roar. San Diego, as we have repeatedly mentioned, is at the center of a bow formed when the Aleutian Island and the tip of Mexico are pulled toward each other. This is what has been causing all the water main breaks in that region lately. The rock is under stress, which will not be relieved until the New Madrid adjusts.
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 Quoting: Nancy Lieder

If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

Nowadays it is about as big a crime to be dumb as it is to be dishonest.
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I'd still like to punch a Zeta in the face for being such a lier.



Well ... I can feel ya ... I am not for violence though ... but sometimes reading Nancys bullshit and some posts by Andrew it is hard to control oneselves feelings.
 Quoting: ZetasDebunkinator


Ahh, no, I wouldn't punch anybody in the face except the so called zetas.. them lying, problematic, hypocritical, non entities,, sure, I'd punch one of those in the face.
:)

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If an entity came to me or you or anybody and lied, deceived, and misled for years,, wouldn't you want to punch one of those entities in the face?

;0)
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Here we witness Nancy spinning her agenda out of totally normal events:

"This summer's melt of Arctic sea ice has not been as profound as in the last two years, scientists said as the ice began its annual Autumn recovery." Is this a direct result of the North Pole's push away from the sun or simply normal variations? [ [link to news.bbc.co.uk]

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Correct. We stated that the northern hemisphere would be cooler up until the last weeks, and this is one result.
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Guess if the Arctic sea ice melt was more profound than in the last 2 years she would find a way to spin it too.
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Here we see the danger Nancy Lieder brings into the life of here believers:

I have a feeling people around are just dieing out. One had heart attack; another - cancer, third - murdered and so on. You may say it was always happening, nothing new. But I mean everything is going on much faster and it has kind a curse nature. What is happening?

SOZT
As we stated at the start of the ZetaTalk saga, there will be increasing illness due to the stress of the times. Add to this the subconscious decision to avoid the coming physical cataclysms
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and you have increased death.
EOZT

I assume some of you have children and you or a kindergartner is educating them. What do you teach your children about life? What do you say them is most important thing in their lives? Power, strength, beauty, talent, special abilities, high intelligence, luck, success, prominence?..

[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Between the lines she is suggesting her believers should indoctrinate their children with that crap.
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This is of course impossible ... "when the Earth temporarily lost its magnetic S Pole" ... an magnetic object can not loose one of its poles ... this is completely impossible.
 Quoting: ZetasDebunkinator

Quite right. You can't have a "north pole" without a "south pole." When a magnetic field forms, the poles are by products of that...and you simply can't have one without the other. They are dependent. Much like electricity flows from positive to negative, a magnetic field behaves in much the same way...with the field flowing between the two poles. If the "south pole" disappears, so does the "north pole"...or vice versa. There would be a complete collapse of the magnetic field. As you said:

wrong
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Hi, Nancy and Zetas! I have been wondering about how the Zetas differentiate each other if names are not important to STO Zetas. For example, say you need to talk with a specific Zeta who is working in a kitchen, but there are several other Zetas also working in the same kitchen. How do you say you need to reach the Zeta you are looking for? I don't understand how there can be no individual Zeta names.

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You obviously are not familiar with how telepathy works. Whales contact others in their pods over hundreds and thousands of miles using telepathy, and their pod member get the message. It has a long reach, and is very specific.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Last time i checked whales used subsonic acoustic signals to communicate, not telepathy.

Zetas wrong again.

Whales and dolphins are very intelligent though ... probably more so than Nancy and her followers.

Last Edited by ZetasDebunkinator on 10/11/2009 01:20 AM
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I was wondering if there are any other websites like Zetatalk run by other alien groups/contactees who are service to other and trying to spread the truth. And can you tell me which group is watching over Canada?

SOZT
Whatever alien group is responding to the Call in this or that country, they are all Service-to-Other. If you do not have a hominoid visitor responding to your Call, just consider this an early lesson in all the intelligent life forms that flourish in the Universe. There are NO other websites by genuine contactees doing the type of work that Nancy does outside of ZetaTalk. As we have explained, Nancy is unique.
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EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder



rofl lol
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True...because of the frequencies used for their "songs", and the density of the ocean, these sounds can travel hundreds of miles. Now, whales might actually use telepathy as well...but there's no evidence of that.
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Hi, Nancy and Zetas! I have been wondering about how the Zetas differentiate each other if names are not important to STO Zetas. For example, say you need to talk with a specific Zeta who is working in a kitchen, but there are several other Zetas also working in the same kitchen. How do you say you need to reach the Zeta you are looking for? I don't understand how there can be no individual Zeta names.

SOZT
You obviously are not familiar with how telepathy works. Whales contact others in their pods over hundreds and thousands of miles using telepathy, and their pod member get the message. It has a long reach, and is very specific.
EOZT


Last time i checked whales used subsonic acoustic signals to communicate, not telepathy.

Zetas wrong again.

Whales and dolphins are very intellegent though ... probably more so than Nancy and her followers.

 Quoting: ZetasDebunkinator



The same can be said for a dried out corn cob.....
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

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NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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The same can be said for a dried out corn cob.....
 Quoting: The Commentator


rofl
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The same can be said for a dried out corn cob.....


rofl
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Thank you!
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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I suggest this as the Nancy quote of the day:

Former President George W. Bush #3 (the STO clone) has been out of the news for months now. Other than remaining quiet about President Obama and his policies, is Bush #3 doing anything to help President Obama? Where are Bush #1 and Bush #2 secreted, and what are they doing?

SOZT
The job of Bush 3 is to simply live a quiet life and stay out of trouble, which public exposure might entail. Bush 1 and Bush 2 are both dead. Bush 1 was being held in a private prison in case a fresh body were needed, but was killed when Bush 3 took over, no longer needed. Bush 2 was quickly killed when the switch to Bush 3 occurred, to eliminate any chance that he might be reinstated.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Last Edited by ZetasDebunkinator on 10/11/2009 01:42 AM
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

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I suggest this as the Nancy quote of the day:


Former President George W. Bush #3 (the STO clone) has been out of the news for months now. Other than remaining quiet about President Obama and his policies, is Bush #3 doing anything to help President Obama? Where are Bush #1 and Bush #2 secreted, and what are they doing?

SOZT
The job of Bush 3 is to simply live a quiet life and stay out of trouble, which public exposure might entail. Bush 1 and Bush 2 are both dead. Bush 1 was being held in a private prison in case a fresh body were needed, but was killed when Bush 3 took over, no longer needed. Bush 2 was quickly killed when the switch to Bush 3 occurred, to eliminate any chance that he might be reinstated.
EOZT

 Quoting: ZetasDebunkinator



Amazing! There are as many of these Bush copies as there are loyal followers of the failed zeta cult!

Of course the dead Bush is smarter than all three of them put together.

Last Edited by The Commentator on 10/11/2009 03:33 AM
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"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

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NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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Just catching up.

What did I miss?

Oh boy
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If Obama and Pelosi are in the know, why are they so obsessed with Health reform? It would not even take effect until well after the shift(2013). Is there something else behind it because it doesn't make any sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 685909


lol4me Well it's not that difficult to come to a definite conclusion is it?

Ms LIEDer just makes this billshit up as she goes along week from week.

lol4me Do you know how many times Ms LIEDer has given an exact date period for the arrival of her No Show Planet? That alone should give you a clue pal.
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When can we expect to see the monster sun on the horizon?

SOZT
Were we to answer that, we would be arming the establishment, which would arrive at the appointed hour with false explanations for what the public sees. Thus, we decline to explain what might be coming next. Always, whatever it is, it will be a surprise.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Translation......

SOLRT
Were we to answer that, we(well actually just myself really)would be further arming those that have successfully debunked my crap previously, and it would allow the debunker establishment to flood GLP at the appointed hour with explanations that would again make us(I mean me)look totally foolish amongst the public of GLP all over again. Thus, we(I mean I again) decline to explain what might be coming next because my FAILED accuracy prediction track record is absolutely embarrassing. Always, whatever it is, will not eventuate and will never be a surprise because I, Nancy, never ever get any predictions right!!
EOLRT
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:billshit: - don't give me that "for nothing but posting here" :billshit: Nancy is on for only three hours a week,
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And YOU are here for the rest of the time. Hmmmmm
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When can we expect to see the monster sun on the horizon?

SOZT
Were we to answer that, we would be arming the establishment, which would arrive at the appointed hour with false explanations for what the public sees. Thus, we decline to explain what might be coming next. Always, whatever it is, it will be a surprise.
EOZT


Translation......

SOLRT
Were we to answer that, we(well actually just myself really)would be further arming those that have successfully debunked my crap previously, and it would allow the debunker establishment to flood GLP at the appointed hour with explanations that would again make us(I mean me)look totally foolish amongst the public of GLP all over again. Thus, we(I mean I again) decline to explain what might be coming next because my FAILED accuracy prediction track record is absolutely embarrassing. Always, whatever it is, will not eventuate and will never be a surprise because I, Nancy, never ever get any predictions right!!
EOLRT
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


It's quite clever actually...in Nancy's typically devious way. By saying it will be a surprise ANYTHING unexpected that happens can be followed by a Zetas Right Again! claim.

ALL the Zetas predictions boil down to "something will happen at some point".
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Link/quote on the Cheney death thing? Debunkers lie like this..

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 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Nancy you are accusing us of being LIARS!!

Gee whiz there, Nancy, you also should refrain from throwing stones from within your fragile glass house. Your zetababble crap includes many examples of your inconsistencies; misinformation; disinformation; and total fabrications. Lying is an art that you have mastered when confronted with the continual reality that your zetababble is filled with countless falsehoods. Your very continuing with your rogue planet claims alone since May 2003 in itself is one BIG LIE.

After all these years it is safe to say that you indeed are lying to yourself on a daily basis. So your pot calling the kettle black accusations against any debunker here is purely hypocritical on your part, Nancy.
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billshit - don't give me that "for nothing but posting here" billshit Nancy is on for only three hours a week,


And YOU are here for the rest of the time. Hmmmmm
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What "exactly" are you inferring???
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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When can we expect to see the monster sun on the horizon?

SOZT
Were we to answer that, we would be arming the establishment, which would arrive at the appointed hour with false explanations for what the public sees. Thus, we decline to explain what might be coming next. Always, whatever it is, it will be a surprise.
EOZT


Translation......

SOLRT
Were we to answer that, we(well actually just myself really)would be further arming those that have successfully debunked my crap previously, and it would allow the debunker establishment to flood GLP at the appointed hour with explanations that would again make us(I mean me)look totally foolish amongst the public of GLP all over again. Thus, we(I mean I again) decline to explain what might be coming next because my FAILED accuracy prediction track record is absolutely embarrassing. Always, whatever it is, will not eventuate and will never be a surprise because I, Nancy, never ever get any predictions right!!
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It's quite clever actually...in Nancy's typically devious way. By saying it will be a surprise ANYTHING unexpected that happens can be followed by a Zetas Right Again! claim.

ALL the Zetas predictions boil down to "something will happen at some point".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 791453

zright
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Link/quote on the Cheney death thing? Debunkers lie like this..

Check the photos! In newsletter
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 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


rofl lol

The nose looks exactly the same on all pictures she presents. Makes one wonder who here really was brain damaged by booze and cocaine ...

... btw, since this video is showing Nancy in moving pictures viewer discretion is advised as you mentioned in a post a few days ago LR. Especially for people who had no breakfast yet .... Nancy Lieder in the morning might doom the whole day.

The clone story is ranking pretty high in Nancys Hall of Bull ... closely followed by the "you're about to become an octopus on waterworld" gig.

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If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

Nowadays it is about as big a crime to be dumb as it is to be dishonest.
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Just catching up.

What did I miss?
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Nancy was very aggressive last night. When she posted her thread I posted here in the debunkers chat that we should do some live debunking. This got me banned whithin 30 seconds ... I had to restart my PC and router and stuff to get a new IP ... I posted here again and was banned 30 seconds later by here. This happened a third time ... for just posting a bump sign .... but then I was fed up to restart all my stuff.
I used the time to sign up.

So this is prove that Nancy now bans everyone who posts here in the debunkers thread while her thread is pinned ... at least she does so with ACs, not sure if she dares to do this with registered and paying members (which I will be soon, so the debunking can be supported by photos and custom smileys).

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If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

Nowadays it is about as big a crime to be dumb as it is to be dishonest.
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wtf

WTF? half thread flooded with french kisses and squirrel farms!

do you guys not have more meaningful things to talk about, especially here?!

duh...

spam
 Quoting: andrew


Well Andrew ... sad to see the Zeta-ship sinking fast, huh ? Without the disrupting posts her thread would have only 4 pages ... guess thats why she does not delete them as usual, to avoid the embarrassment of only having 4 pages.
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

Nowadays it is about as big a crime to be dumb as it is to be dishonest.
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wtf

WTF? half thread flooded with french kisses and squirrel farms!

do you guys not have more meaningful things to talk about, especially here?!

duh...

spam


Well Andrew ... sad to see the Zeta-ship sinking fast, huh ? Without the disrupting posts her thread would have only 4 pages ... guess thats why she does not delete them as usual, to avoid the embarrassment of only having 4 pages.
 Quoting: ZetasDebunkinator


There will be a resurgence --- SOON!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Can you provide any other examples from geologic history that do not include volcanic eruption?

I will respond further on this item by combining your comments and Dr. Postman. Time runs out today ;o)

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 Quoting: J.William Dell


Pyroclastic surges are much faster moving than pyroclastic flows, and can reach speeds of 350 km/h. Pyroclastic flows may generate surges. For example, the city of Saint-Pierre on the Caribbean island of Martinique in 1902 was overcome by one.

Base surge was first recognised after the Taal Volcano eruption of 1965, where a visiting volcanologist recognised the phenomenon as congruent to base surge in atomic explosions. The USGS defines base surge as turbulent, low-density cloud of rock debris and water and (or) steam that moves over the ground surface at high speed. Base surges are generated by explosions.[1]

Hot surges contain gas and steam at temperatures above 100 °C (212 °F) and are ejected from the vent. They may be as hot as 800 °C (1500 °F) and are produced by the same mechanisms as pyroclastic flows. Cold surges contain gas mainly below 100 °C (212 °F) and can be produced when magma comes into contact with a large volume of water (for example, if the vent is under a lake or the sea).

Surges can travel around ten kilometres and are enormously destructive because of their massive kinetic energy and, for hot surges, the lethally hot gas. Even cold surges can contain large quantities of toxic gases, such as hydrogen sulfide.

Lahars can be best described as volcanic mudflows. They may not necessarily be caused by volcanic activity, but at the very least do originate from some type of volcanism. Lahars have the consistency of concrete: fluid when moving, then solid when stopped.[2] Lahars can be huge: the Osceola lahar produced 5,600 years ago by Mount Rainier in Washington produced a wall of mud 140 metres (460 ft) deep in the White River canyon and covered an area of over 330 square kilometres (130 sq mi) for a total volume of 2.3 cubic kilometers (0.55 cubic miles).[3]

Lahars can be deadly because of their energy and speed. Large lahars can flow several dozen meters per second and can flow for many kilometres, causing catastrophic destruction in their path.[4] The lahars from the Nevado del Ruiz eruption in Colombia in 1985 caused the Armero tragedy, which killed an estimated 23,000 when the city of Armero was buried under 5 metres (16 ft) of mud and debris.[5] New Zealand's Tangiwai disaster in 1953, where 151 people died after a Christmas Eve express train fell into the Whangaehu River, was caused by a lahar.
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