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The Commentator

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Shun or ignore, I can't really see the difference so if you prefer ignore, that works for me.

I guess they're both the same...for some reason though, shun seems more negative. Just a perception thing.
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Yeah, I can see that. We are on the same page.
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By all means he can post here if he pleases, as can anyone. I am a staunch defender of the freedom to express your views, I detest censorship. I personally will just refuse to get drawn into Max's game. I am here to discuss the gaping holes and inconsistencies in ZetaTalk.

Yep.

I know when I first joined GLP in 2003, all I did was ask questions and highlighted the many contradictions and inconsistencies. All that got me was name calling, which only served to push me further away from believing anything Nancy claimed. I really view name calling and attacks as a sign of weakness. That's why I've really been trying to get us to get away from that...no matter how much we're taunted by "bunkers." Just remind yourself that their attacks are signs of weakness. If they could truly defend ZetaTalk, they wouldn't need to throw names or advocate censorship in Nancy's threads. The evidence would speak for itself.


Then you end up like I did with Freestore and trying to discuss the ecliptic with him. He is willfully ignorant and totally obstinant. You lead him right to the brink of an unavoidable conclusion about something like "Moon out of place", and he just starts babbling and runs away, ignoring everything you have showed him. That's when I just started calling them "idiot". What else can you really do? It's the simple truth. They are willfull, paranoid, idiots.
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Or they are just trolling. I find it hard to believe that anyone can be that stupid and still function.
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Well, Max has pretty much proven the point. He is not interested in ZetaTalk at all. He is here to bait rational people. Several of us offered to ease up and be more civil. Those gestures have not even been acknowledged, and he continues with his unfounded accusations and insults. If he were really interested in talking about ZetaTalk, he would be posting with others that believe on Nancy's thread. How many times did he complain about having debunkers "disrupting" making it impossible for the bunkers to have a meaningful discussion? But now that he has gotten his wish, he prefers to come here and try to stir up shit.

From now on I will just scroll past Max's posts and I will not reply, no matter how much he goads. I am sure he will spin that as me being afraid to engage him, but that is what Max does. I think he has outed himself quite well these past few days. He is another troll, not worth the time it takes to hit the post button.



Good point.

OK, how about for the length of the boycott we simply shun max here?

He contributes nothing, he has become another village idiot trolling.

max is, as Dr. Postman has pointed out, simply an attention whore and the sooner he/she/it learns that there is nothing to gain by trolling this thread the sooner he/she/it will stop.

So, let us shun max.

All in favor?


I asked why you were continuing to dance with Maxie some time ago. He is a total waste of time and his insipid baiting is sooooo tiresome. Let him stew in his own juice for a while.
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And you were right, took me longer to see it than I liked, but you were right all along.
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Well, Max has pretty much proven the point. He is not interested in ZetaTalk at all. He is here to bait rational people. Several of us offered to ease up and be more civil. Those gestures have not even been acknowledged, and he continues with his unfounded accusations and insults. If he were really interested in talking about ZetaTalk, he would be posting with others that believe on Nancy's thread. How many times did he complain about having debunkers "disrupting" making it impossible for the bunkers to have a meaningful discussion? But now that he has gotten his wish, he prefers to come here and try to stir up shit.

From now on I will just scroll past Max's posts and I will not reply, no matter how much he goads. I am sure he will spin that as me being afraid to engage him, but that is what Max does. I think he has outed himself quite well these past few days. He is another troll, not worth the time it takes to hit the post button.



Good point.

OK, how about for the length of the boycott we simply shun max here?

He contributes nothing, he has become another village idiot trolling.

max is, as Dr. Postman has pointed out, simply an attention whore and the sooner he/she/it learns that there is nothing to gain by trolling this thread the sooner he/she/it will stop.

So, let us shun max.

All in favor?


No. ZetaMax is not the biggest problem or the stupidest person posting in these threads. Some of you have made him a scapegoat, with all those empty accusations and assumptions that you just keep on making up. One of those is the belief that he is Nancy. Another one is that he is trying to take over Nancy's cult. He's been accused just recently of both being Nancy and abusing poor old Nancy - CAN'T YOU MAKE UP YOUR MIND HOW THIS IS IN YOUR IMAGINATION, if you're unable to actually read what he writes or doesn't. He just gets accused a lot about things that Nancy has done and said. Why is that? You're not making any sense when you're accusing him of another person's doings. Not in my opinion you're not. He also gets accused of what those other posters write. Like he was somehow responsible for them.. why would he be? I really don't get this crazy idea of putting all the posters in two boxes, the other box is for the "debunkers" and the other box is for the "idiots, zidiots, etc".

Shunning those who don't fit into your category of "US" is what is being done in CULTS. What is your cult, Commentator? Where did you learn to think and act that way? Yehowa's Witnesses? Some other organization of "right-being like-minded" people?

I've found SOME of ZetaMax's posts as delightful. I believe he is his own person. Maybe somewhat or a lot foolish, but hell, who of you/us isn't, at least occasionally. Have some mercy for your fellow neighbor, as for yourself, that's what I think.

Still, I do wish ZetaMax would answer those questions that have been asked from him, in an honest way, whatever that is for him, and so maybe there could be actual conversation. But with the situation being what it is, I'm not sure if he's being given a real opportunity to write much, since every post he makes gets ridiculed or mocked or criticized. That being, I think he's been really cool, he's got strength. Not everybody would have sticked around after all that he's had to go through in these threads. How long would the Commentator last if most everybody started to attack, insult, gossip, shun and dictate everything about him and his posts.. calling HIM Nancy The Hateful and so forth.. just wondering.
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If you find the drivel, lies, nonsense, codswallop, flapdoodle and just plain bullshit max spews "delightful" then by all means, enjoy.

The rest of of have something to contribute, no matter how small, max does not. If you disagree, such is your right.
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By all means he can post here if he pleases, as can anyone. I am a staunch defender of the freedom to express your views, I detest censorship. I personally will just refuse to get drawn into Max's game. I am here to discuss the gaping holes and inconsistencies in ZetaTalk.

Yep.

I know when I first joined GLP in 2003, all I did was ask questions and highlighted the many contradictions and inconsistencies. All that got me was name calling, which only served to push me further away from believing anything Nancy claimed. I really view name calling and attacks as a sign of weakness. That's why I've really been trying to get us to get away from that...no matter how much we're taunted by "bunkers." Just remind yourself that their attacks are signs of weakness. If they could truly defend ZetaTalk, they wouldn't need to throw names or advocate censorship in Nancy's threads. The evidence would speak for itself.


Then you end up like I did with Freestore and trying to discuss the ecliptic with him. He is willfully ignorant and totally obstinant. You lead him right to the brink of an unavoidable conclusion about something like "Moon out of place", and he just starts babbling and runs away, ignoring everything you have showed him. That's when I just started calling them "idiot". What else can you really do? It's the simple truth. They are willfull, paranoid, idiots.

Or they are just trolling. I find it hard to believe that anyone can be that stupid and still function.
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It's a bizarre combination of things. They are "stupid" because they refuse to entertain anything which would disrupt their preconceived conclusions. They just won't "go there". It's just a trolling/attention game for them after you reach that point. It's just round after round of: "What about THIS"? "DEBUNK THIS", ad infinitum. They think there MUST be something to what Nancy is saying. I gave her the benefit of the doubt back in 2002 as well. Then the images came out. It became clear that Nancy was not only wrong, but lying through her(or "Zetas") teeth. It's all a carefully contrived house of cards, one built on another. There simply is no THERE, there, when you really look with a critical eye. Nancy's supporters simply will NOT look with a critical eye. That's the difference.
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I am in favour. While I agree with CB that we need to be civil, I think the way things have transpired have exposed Max once and for all, He is a troll, and all he does is try to confuse the discussion, distract from the points being made and drag the discussion into an insult fest. It only works if we let him get our goat and take it for a walk. We can discuss, raise points and continue to show that ZetaTalk is bull, providing evidence for those that are interested, but I am done playing with Max, because he has nothing to contribute. He is a shit disturber. Every time I see his alien face I will hear the braying of a jackass. You get nowhere conversing with a jackass.

You may have a point. It seems he's been posting in our threads more than in Nancy's. I'm certainly not saying he can't post here. Unlike the bunkers, we don't call on "censorship." Likewise, we don't ban people or remove their posts when we don't like something...unlike Nancy. So, by all means, continue posting here Max. However, if you do, I ask that you make civil comments. For instance, you can even use your "screened memories" theory to explain something. I may find it unbelievable, but if you're civil with it then I won't attack it. I might question it...but not attack it.

By all means he can post here if he pleases, as can anyone. I am a staunch defender of the freedom to express your views, I detest censorship. I personally will just refuse to get drawn into Max's game. I am here to discuss the gaping holes and inconsistencies in ZetaTalk.
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Agreed 100%. let max waste his time, not that he actually has anything else to do with his time. Let him spam the thread as much as he wants just don't respond.
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This is one of the funniest things ever written by Nancy, full of new terms like "hosed by the tail", "slow creep" and "sweeping arms of the sun". Its hard to know where to start deconstructing and disproving this incredible collection of nonsensical statements. Remember, this "happened" in 2003.
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Since the Earth encountered Planet X in her orbit on Dec 25, 2003, her orbit has stalled, as she encountered an elephant in the road at this point and could not pass. Planet X had been plunging toward the Sun, rapidly entering the solar system in the short years prior to 2003 at a speed close to the speed of light. As Planet X approached the Sun in early 2003, brilliant Second Sun sightings and photos were possible because the Earth was on the opposite side of the Sun from the approaching Planet X, and thus sunlight was reflected off the dust cloud and bounced back toward Earth. Then came the encounter with Planet X in Earth's orbit, and things changed. As Planet X was moving, still, toward the Sun, sunlight now was at its back, bouncing back toward the Sun, and visibility of this dust shrouded planet changed from brilliant and dramatic Second Sun sightings to puzzlement. Like an object in a fog bank, it was lost to view except for those times when its swirling tail and moons caught sunlight and deflected this to Earth. Evidence of the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system, slowly passing the S Pole of the Sun, was reduced to taking the pulse of Earth herself - increased earthquakes, volcanic activity, an Earth wobble evident to those astute enough to take note, and erratic weather accompanying the wobble. The eddy flow created by particles flowing coming from the Sun and thence around the sides of Planet X trapped Earth in her stalled orbit, and held her there in front of Planet X, no escape. As Planet X proceeded past the Sun's S Pole in his sling orbit, he went within the orbit of Venus, and thus likewise trapped Venus in this eddy flow cup when she came round in her orbit to encounter Planet X. The Earth's dark twin, sharing an orbit with Earth, joined this group of trapped planets within months, remaining behind the Earth, likewise stalled in their shared orbit, a dark hunk of black rock reflecting little light and thus essentially invisible to man. This has been the setup throughout 2004 and into 2005, the rapid plunge of Planet X toward the Sun countered by the Repulsion Force into a slow creep past the Sun. This is not a static condition, however.

Caught in the eddy flow cup, Venus and Earth and her dark twin are pushed backwards in their orbits as Planet X progresses in its retrograde sling orbit past the Sun. For those who think that this would result in horrific trauma on Earth, we point to what causes orbits in the first place, the gentle nudge from the sweeping arms of the Sun causing all the planets in the solar system to move in the same direction, counterclockwise, around the Sun. Orbits are not sacred, they are composed of planets bobbling in particle flows and nudged into momentum when these particle flows have force and direction. Orbits can move in one direction or another, without impact on the planets which are passive during this process. We have described the point where Planet X pierces the Ecliptic, moving from alignment with the Sun's magnetic field where the lines go into the Sun's S Pole to alignment with the magnetic field where the lines come out from the Sun's N Pole as a time of 270° roll for Planet X. It turns in place 180° to point its N Pole away from the Sun's S Pole, then stands upright at the Ecliptic, and later does another 270° roll while adjusting to the magnetic flow lines coming out from the Sun's N Pole. Lately it has been noted that Planet X appears slightly to the right of the Sun, when sighted or captured on film. We explained that during this 270° roll, the N Pole of Planet X swings round according to the retrograde rotation of Planet X, clockwise, and thus the hose of magnetic particles coming from the N Pole of Planet X emerges on the right side. This causes Earth to scuttle even faster backward in her orbit, to the left, to escape this hose of magnetic particles. This is where we are today, in the Spring of 2006. For those who say such maneuvers of Earth would be apparent, announced loudly by astronomers, we point to the many observations that things are not normal, and the obvious cover-up against admission that Planet X is in the inner solar system, to dampen panic in the populace. Just why do you suppose Bush is frantic to be sitting on all the world's oil fields at this time, if not that he realizes a pole shift is around the corner? To prevent such panic as might allow Bush to declare martial law, we and other benign aliens tweak the planets and the Moon for key events like an eclipse to simulate normalcy, and tip the globe to simulate the seasons, giving the appearance of apparent precision in astrophysics.

What comes next? Early in the ZetaTalk saga we described the ZetaTalk Triangle, the relationship between the Earth, Sun, and Planet X when Planet X pierces the Ecliptic. This ZetaTalk triangle was featured in July 2003 in dual Wisconsin crop circles, a move that was made by ourselves and others in support of a beleaguered Nancy who had suffered through our White Lie regarding the May 15, 2003 date. What puzzled many was the placement of Planet X to the right of the Earth, when we likewise had described the pole shift as occurring when Planet X stands between the Sun and Earth, supplanting the Sun's dominance as the largest magnet in the solar system. Based on our more recent description of the 270° roll and the Earth scuttling to the left to avoid the hose of magnetic particles, this triangle can be fitted into the larger equation. At the point the Ecliptic is pierced, Planet X has pointed its N Pole away from the Sun, and toward Earth. Earth reacts by leanings its N Pole away, into the 3 days of darkness predicted for the northern hemisphere. Prior to this, as the N Pole of Planet X is swinging round, the Earth falls on its side, as we have described, the N Pole of Earth to the left in the extreme, thence rolling into the 3 days of darkness as Planet X points its N Pole directly at Earth. This is a rapid and highly dramatic time for Earth, lasting but days at each stage, but what of the months leading into this drama? Earth scuttles back in her orbit, Planet X is seen to the right of the Sun, and increasingly coming closer and appearing larger and unmistakably not as a solar flare or sundog, and the Earth falls to her side, little by little. This makes for a lopsided arc of the Sun across the sky during the day, the Sun not where expected, hardly something the pat excuse for the Earth changes, global warming, could accomplish. During this slow 270° roll Planet X is steadfastly moving closer to the Earth, as the diagrams Nancy and friends have constructed show. It not only appears larger in the sky, it has a steadily stronger grip on the Atlantic Rift and the poles, creating a stronger and more violent wobble. This equates to stronger quakes and volcanic activity, wilder weather, and the populace starting to question matters in a shrill, not polite, manner. If this is global warming, what is that to the right of the Sun, and why is the Earth falling to her side? We predict the White House will shutter their windows and refuse questions on the matter, if they are functioning at all at that time.
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Well, I'm encouraged...I think we're starting to make progress here.

Let's not forget that our only source of information to discuss doesn't have to come from her thread. There's a virtual cornucopia of stuff at ZetaTalk.

And I'm certainly not telling people what or how to post. I'm only suggesting. After all, we said we were better than "bunkers" so let's try to show it.
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Well said!
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This is one of the funniest things ever written by Nancy, full of new terms like "hosed by the tail", "slow creep" and "sweeping arms of the sun". Its hard to know where to start deconstructing and disproving this incredible collection of nonsensical statements. Remember, this "happened" in 2003.
*********************************************************
Since the Earth encountered Planet X in her orbit on Dec 25, 2003, her orbit has stalled, as she encountered an elephant in the road at this point and could not pass. Planet X had been plunging toward the Sun, rapidly entering the solar system in the short years prior to 2003 at a speed close to the speed of light. As Planet X approached the Sun in early 2003, brilliant Second Sun sightings and photos were possible because the Earth was on the opposite side of the Sun from the approaching Planet X, and thus sunlight was reflected off the dust cloud and bounced back toward Earth. Then came the encounter with Planet X in Earth's orbit, and things changed. As Planet X was moving, still, toward the Sun, sunlight now was at its back, bouncing back toward the Sun, and visibility of this dust shrouded planet changed from brilliant and dramatic Second Sun sightings to puzzlement. Like an object in a fog bank, it was lost to view except for those times when its swirling tail and moons caught sunlight and deflected this to Earth. Evidence of the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system, slowly passing the S Pole of the Sun, was reduced to taking the pulse of Earth herself - increased earthquakes, volcanic activity, an Earth wobble evident to those astute enough to take note, and erratic weather accompanying the wobble. The eddy flow created by particles flowing coming from the Sun and thence around the sides of Planet X trapped Earth in her stalled orbit, and held her there in front of Planet X, no escape. As Planet X proceeded past the Sun's S Pole in his sling orbit, he went within the orbit of Venus, and thus likewise trapped Venus in this eddy flow cup when she came round in her orbit to encounter Planet X. The Earth's dark twin, sharing an orbit with Earth, joined this group of trapped planets within months, remaining behind the Earth, likewise stalled in their shared orbit, a dark hunk of black rock reflecting little light and thus essentially invisible to man. This has been the setup throughout 2004 and into 2005, the rapid plunge of Planet X toward the Sun countered by the Repulsion Force into a slow creep past the Sun. This is not a static condition, however.

Caught in the eddy flow cup, Venus and Earth and her dark twin are pushed backwards in their orbits as Planet X progresses in its retrograde sling orbit past the Sun. For those who think that this would result in horrific trauma on Earth, we point to what causes orbits in the first place, the gentle nudge from the sweeping arms of the Sun causing all the planets in the solar system to move in the same direction, counterclockwise, around the Sun. Orbits are not sacred, they are composed of planets bobbling in particle flows and nudged into momentum when these particle flows have force and direction. Orbits can move in one direction or another, without impact on the planets which are passive during this process. We have described the point where Planet X pierces the Ecliptic, moving from alignment with the Sun's magnetic field where the lines go into the Sun's S Pole to alignment with the magnetic field where the lines come out from the Sun's N Pole as a time of 270° roll for Planet X. It turns in place 180° to point its N Pole away from the Sun's S Pole, then stands upright at the Ecliptic, and later does another 270° roll while adjusting to the magnetic flow lines coming out from the Sun's N Pole. Lately it has been noted that Planet X appears slightly to the right of the Sun, when sighted or captured on film. We explained that during this 270° roll, the N Pole of Planet X swings round according to the retrograde rotation of Planet X, clockwise, and thus the hose of magnetic particles coming from the N Pole of Planet X emerges on the right side. This causes Earth to scuttle even faster backward in her orbit, to the left, to escape this hose of magnetic particles. This is where we are today, in the Spring of 2006. For those who say such maneuvers of Earth would be apparent, announced loudly by astronomers, we point to the many observations that things are not normal, and the obvious cover-up against admission that Planet X is in the inner solar system, to dampen panic in the populace. Just why do you suppose Bush is frantic to be sitting on all the world's oil fields at this time, if not that he realizes a pole shift is around the corner? To prevent such panic as might allow Bush to declare martial law, we and other benign aliens tweak the planets and the Moon for key events like an eclipse to simulate normalcy, and tip the globe to simulate the seasons, giving the appearance of apparent precision in astrophysics.

What comes next? Early in the ZetaTalk saga we described the ZetaTalk Triangle, the relationship between the Earth, Sun, and Planet X when Planet X pierces the Ecliptic. This ZetaTalk triangle was featured in July 2003 in dual Wisconsin crop circles, a move that was made by ourselves and others in support of a beleaguered Nancy who had suffered through our White Lie regarding the May 15, 2003 date. What puzzled many was the placement of Planet X to the right of the Earth, when we likewise had described the pole shift as occurring when Planet X stands between the Sun and Earth, supplanting the Sun's dominance as the largest magnet in the solar system. Based on our more recent description of the 270° roll and the Earth scuttling to the left to avoid the hose of magnetic particles, this triangle can be fitted into the larger equation. At the point the Ecliptic is pierced, Planet X has pointed its N Pole away from the Sun, and toward Earth. Earth reacts by leanings its N Pole away, into the 3 days of darkness predicted for the northern hemisphere. Prior to this, as the N Pole of Planet X is swinging round, the Earth falls on its side, as we have described, the N Pole of Earth to the left in the extreme, thence rolling into the 3 days of darkness as Planet X points its N Pole directly at Earth. This is a rapid and highly dramatic time for Earth, lasting but days at each stage, but what of the months leading into this drama? Earth scuttles back in her orbit, Planet X is seen to the right of the Sun, and increasingly coming closer and appearing larger and unmistakably not as a solar flare or sundog, and the Earth falls to her side, little by little. This makes for a lopsided arc of the Sun across the sky during the day, the Sun not where expected, hardly something the pat excuse for the Earth changes, global warming, could accomplish. During this slow 270° roll Planet X is steadfastly moving closer to the Earth, as the diagrams Nancy and friends have constructed show. It not only appears larger in the sky, it has a steadily stronger grip on the Atlantic Rift and the poles, creating a stronger and more violent wobble. This equates to stronger quakes and volcanic activity, wilder weather, and the populace starting to question matters in a shrill, not polite, manner. If this is global warming, what is that to the right of the Sun, and why is the Earth falling to her side? We predict the White House will shutter their windows and refuse questions on the matter, if they are functioning at all at that time.
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If anyone ever question her absolute lack of astronomical knowledge, this should take care of that!
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Nothing will suffice to show zetadrool wrong because it is a religion, not a scientific operation.
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I can't believe that she said those things.

The eddy and flow of Venus backward yet everything in the heavens stays in place....

Perceptual whiplash.
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The laughable (or sad, depending on how you look at it) is that there are actually people who fall for that crap!
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Hey if you liked that one, there are lots more where it came from.
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Then you end up like I did with Freestore and trying to discuss the ecliptic with him. He is willfully ignorant and totally obstinant. You lead him right to the brink of an unavoidable conclusion about something like "Moon out of place", and he just starts babbling and runs away, ignoring everything you have showed him. That's when I just started calling them "idiot". What else can you really do? It's the simple truth. They are willfull, paranoid, idiots.
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I refuse to get into "arguments" with him. You're right...his circular logic is frustrating. He ignores evidence presented before him. When he posts claims about the moon or the sun, I simply tell him we've been through it before and until he can provide some kind of documentation backing up his claims then he shall forever remain wrong.
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Then you end up like I did with Freestore and trying to discuss the ecliptic with him. He is willfully ignorant and totally obstinant. You lead him right to the brink of an unavoidable conclusion about something like "Moon out of place", and he just starts babbling and runs away, ignoring everything you have showed him. That's when I just started calling them "idiot". What else can you really do? It's the simple truth. They are willfull, paranoid, idiots.

I refuse to get into "arguments" with him. You're right...his circular logic is frustrating. He ignores evidence presented before him. When he posts claims about the moon or the sun, I simply tell him we've been through it before and until he can provide some kind of documentation backing up his claims then he shall forever remain wrong.
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A simpler way to handle freaky is simply to not say anything to him at all.
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This is one of the funniest things ever written by Nancy, full of new terms like "hosed by the tail", "slow creep" and "sweeping arms of the sun". Its hard to know where to start deconstructing and disproving this incredible collection of nonsensical statements. Remember, this "happened" in 2003.
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Since the Earth encountered Planet X in her orbit on Dec 25, 2003, her orbit has stalled, as she encountered an elephant in the road at this point and could not pass. Planet X had been plunging toward the Sun, rapidly entering the solar system in the short years prior to 2003 at a speed close to the speed of light. As Planet X approached the Sun in early 2003, brilliant Second Sun sightings and photos were possible because the Earth was on the opposite side of the Sun from the approaching Planet X, and thus sunlight was reflected off the dust cloud and bounced back toward Earth. Then came the encounter with Planet X in Earth's orbit, and things changed. As Planet X was moving, still, toward the Sun, sunlight now was at its back, bouncing back toward the Sun, and visibility of this dust shrouded planet changed from brilliant and dramatic Second Sun sightings to puzzlement. Like an object in a fog bank, it was lost to view except for those times when its swirling tail and moons caught sunlight and deflected this to Earth. Evidence of the presence of Planet X in the inner solar system, slowly passing the S Pole of the Sun, was reduced to taking the pulse of Earth herself - increased earthquakes, volcanic activity, an Earth wobble evident to those astute enough to take note, and erratic weather accompanying the wobble. The eddy flow created by particles flowing coming from the Sun and thence around the sides of Planet X trapped Earth in her stalled orbit, and held her there in front of Planet X, no escape. As Planet X proceeded past the Sun's S Pole in his sling orbit, he went within the orbit of Venus, and thus likewise trapped Venus in this eddy flow cup when she came round in her orbit to encounter Planet X. The Earth's dark twin, sharing an orbit with Earth, joined this group of trapped planets within months, remaining behind the Earth, likewise stalled in their shared orbit, a dark hunk of black rock reflecting little light and thus essentially invisible to man. This has been the setup throughout 2004 and into 2005, the rapid plunge of Planet X toward the Sun countered by the Repulsion Force into a slow creep past the Sun. This is not a static condition, however.

Caught in the eddy flow cup, Venus and Earth and her dark twin are pushed backwards in their orbits as Planet X progresses in its retrograde sling orbit past the Sun. For those who think that this would result in horrific trauma on Earth, we point to what causes orbits in the first place, the gentle nudge from the sweeping arms of the Sun causing all the planets in the solar system to move in the same direction, counterclockwise, around the Sun. Orbits are not sacred, they are composed of planets bobbling in particle flows and nudged into momentum when these particle flows have force and direction. Orbits can move in one direction or another, without impact on the planets which are passive during this process. We have described the point where Planet X pierces the Ecliptic, moving from alignment with the Sun's magnetic field where the lines go into the Sun's S Pole to alignment with the magnetic field where the lines come out from the Sun's N Pole as a time of 270° roll for Planet X. It turns in place 180° to point its N Pole away from the Sun's S Pole, then stands upright at the Ecliptic, and later does another 270° roll while adjusting to the magnetic flow lines coming out from the Sun's N Pole. Lately it has been noted that Planet X appears slightly to the right of the Sun, when sighted or captured on film. We explained that during this 270° roll, the N Pole of Planet X swings round according to the retrograde rotation of Planet X, clockwise, and thus the hose of magnetic particles coming from the N Pole of Planet X emerges on the right side. This causes Earth to scuttle even faster backward in her orbit, to the left, to escape this hose of magnetic particles. This is where we are today, in the Spring of 2006. For those who say such maneuvers of Earth would be apparent, announced loudly by astronomers, we point to the many observations that things are not normal, and the obvious cover-up against admission that Planet X is in the inner solar system, to dampen panic in the populace. Just why do you suppose Bush is frantic to be sitting on all the world's oil fields at this time, if not that he realizes a pole shift is around the corner? To prevent such panic as might allow Bush to declare martial law, we and other benign aliens tweak the planets and the Moon for key events like an eclipse to simulate normalcy, and tip the globe to simulate the seasons, giving the appearance of apparent precision in astrophysics.

What comes next? Early in the ZetaTalk saga we described the ZetaTalk Triangle, the relationship between the Earth, Sun, and Planet X when Planet X pierces the Ecliptic. This ZetaTalk triangle was featured in July 2003 in dual Wisconsin crop circles, a move that was made by ourselves and others in support of a beleaguered Nancy who had suffered through our White Lie regarding the May 15, 2003 date. What puzzled many was the placement of Planet X to the right of the Earth, when we likewise had described the pole shift as occurring when Planet X stands between the Sun and Earth, supplanting the Sun's dominance as the largest magnet in the solar system. Based on our more recent description of the 270° roll and the Earth scuttling to the left to avoid the hose of magnetic particles, this triangle can be fitted into the larger equation. At the point the Ecliptic is pierced, Planet X has pointed its N Pole away from the Sun, and toward Earth. Earth reacts by leanings its N Pole away, into the 3 days of darkness predicted for the northern hemisphere. Prior to this, as the N Pole of Planet X is swinging round, the Earth falls on its side, as we have described, the N Pole of Earth to the left in the extreme, thence rolling into the 3 days of darkness as Planet X points its N Pole directly at Earth. This is a rapid and highly dramatic time for Earth, lasting but days at each stage, but what of the months leading into this drama? Earth scuttles back in her orbit, Planet X is seen to the right of the Sun, and increasingly coming closer and appearing larger and unmistakably not as a solar flare or sundog, and the Earth falls to her side, little by little. This makes for a lopsided arc of the Sun across the sky during the day, the Sun not where expected, hardly something the pat excuse for the Earth changes, global warming, could accomplish. During this slow 270° roll Planet X is steadfastly moving closer to the Earth, as the diagrams Nancy and friends have constructed show. It not only appears larger in the sky, it has a steadily stronger grip on the Atlantic Rift and the poles, creating a stronger and more violent wobble. This equates to stronger quakes and volcanic activity, wilder weather, and the populace starting to question matters in a shrill, not polite, manner. If this is global warming, what is that to the right of the Sun, and why is the Earth falling to her side? We predict the White House will shutter their windows and refuse questions on the matter, if they are functioning at all at that time.
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I always like it when she uses terms like "lean to the right" or "scuttle to the left." Directions like that have no meaning unless you have a common frame of reference. Lean to the right or scuttle to the left compared to what?
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A simpler way to handle freaky is simply to not say anything to him at all.
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And yet, another option and probably the wisest choice.
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A simpler way to handle freaky is simply to not say anything to him at all.

And yet, another option and probably the wisest choice.
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It is certainly the easiest. There is no sense talking to him, he is just trolling anyway and won't learn a thing. Just let him babble away and pay him no attention. Same with luser.
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I always like it when she uses terms like "lean to the right" or "scuttle to the left." Directions like that have no meaning unless you have a common frame of reference. Lean to the right or scuttle to the left compared to what?
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I asked about that once, but she didn't answer. Instead her trolls pounced and told me that if I couldn't find left and right I was a moron. LOL
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I asked about that once, but she didn't answer. Instead her trolls pounced and told me that if I couldn't find left and right I was a moron. LOL
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That sounds about right for them. After all, they can't seem to grasp the fact that when something appears to the right of the sun at sunset, it will appear to the left at sunrise. They think it is to the "right of the sun" all the time.
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I tried explaining in simple terms, that if you are facing north and there is a tree on your left, and then you turn to face the south, the tree will now be on your right, and if you turn to face the east, the tree will not be visible at all because it is behind you. Apparently it went right over their heads though.
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It may have for some of them, but certainly not all. They probably just decided it was best to save face and not comment.
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As someone who is part Canadian, I find the reference to the "hosing of the tail" to be really humorous.
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I can't help but laugh at this:

Currently, Planet X is not quite at the mid-point between the Earth and the Sun, very close to the Ecliptic or the Sunís middle, and consequently you cannot see it because itís like a dull fuzz ball in front of the Sun and reflects back the light that hits the dust cloud so intensely that itís a terrific glare. If you were on the Sunís side, looking at it, youíd be blinded, but if youíre on the Earth side, looking at it, it looks like a gray fuzz ball. So thatís where it is, and it has progressed from being below the Ecliptic in December of 2003 and down near the Sunís South Pole, to rising up to the Ecliptic, from the right to the left as we have described in its retrograde orbit. This may seem slow, but itís only been a year. And whoís to say, among human cultures, how fast a large planet, 23 times the mass of Earth, a big magnet who roars into the Sun and comes to a screeching halt as it skids around the Sun because of the Repulsion Force, the anti-gravity force, and gets ready to take off as it punches its way through the Ecliptic which is very crowded with particles going in and out of the Sun. This is something man does not have knowledge of. Numerous prophecies say Ďlook at the constellationsí and the Book of Enoch states, Ďthe constellations will not be right for the seasonsí. They knew this was not going to be a fast process, not this time.
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This thing has been sitting near the sun for what? Almost six years. Man, that planet is slow!
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I can't help but laugh at this:


Currently, Planet X is not quite at the mid-point between the Earth and the Sun, very close to the Ecliptic or the Sunís middle, and consequently you cannot see it because itís like a dull fuzz ball in front of the Sun and reflects back the light that hits the dust cloud so intensely that itís a terrific glare. If you were on the Sunís side, looking at it, youíd be blinded, but if youíre on the Earth side, looking at it, it looks like a gray fuzz ball. So thatís where it is, and it has progressed from being below the Ecliptic in December of 2003 and down near the Sunís South Pole, to rising up to the Ecliptic, from the right to the left as we have described in its retrograde orbit. This may seem slow, but itís only been a year. And whoís to say, among human cultures, how fast a large planet, 23 times the mass of Earth, a big magnet who roars into the Sun and comes to a screeching halt as it skids around the Sun because of the Repulsion Force, the anti-gravity force, and gets ready to take off as it punches its way through the Ecliptic which is very crowded with particles going in and out of the Sun. This is something man does not have knowledge of. Numerous prophecies say Ďlook at the constellationsí and the Book of Enoch states, Ďthe constellations will not be right for the seasonsí. They knew this was not going to be a fast process, not this time.


This thing has been sitting near the sun for what? Almost six years. Man, that planet is slow!
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Yet it travels at almost the speed of light
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I can't help but laugh at this:


Currently, Planet X is not quite at the mid-point between the Earth and the Sun, very close to the Ecliptic or the Sunís middle, and consequently you cannot see it because itís like a dull fuzz ball in front of the Sun and reflects back the light that hits the dust cloud so intensely that itís a terrific glare. If you were on the Sunís side, looking at it, youíd be blinded, but if youíre on the Earth side, looking at it, it looks like a gray fuzz ball. So thatís where it is, and it has progressed from being below the Ecliptic in December of 2003 and down near the Sunís South Pole, to rising up to the Ecliptic, from the right to the left as we have described in its retrograde orbit. This may seem slow, but itís only been a year. And whoís to say, among human cultures, how fast a large planet, 23 times the mass of Earth, a big magnet who roars into the Sun and comes to a screeching halt as it skids around the Sun because of the Repulsion Force, the anti-gravity force, and gets ready to take off as it punches its way through the Ecliptic which is very crowded with particles going in and out of the Sun. This is something man does not have knowledge of. Numerous prophecies say Ďlook at the constellationsí and the Book of Enoch states, Ďthe constellations will not be right for the seasonsí. They knew this was not going to be a fast process, not this time.


This thing has been sitting near the sun for what? Almost six years. Man, that planet is slow!

Yet it travels at almost the speed of light
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Actually, she strongly implied that a planet such as PX could travel FASTER than light. I'm not digging up the quote again, but it's one that the bunkers say can't exist, but when we pull it up, they just fall silent on the matter.
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Oh yeah, I forgot that it screeched to a halt and went into "slow creep" mode. LOL

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Oh yeah, I forgot that it screeched to a halt and went into "slow creep" mode. LOL
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And we observe so many OTHER planets behaving the same way -- we have, after all seen hundreds of natural objects decelerate...

Oh, wait. We have yet to observe a SINGLE natural object in the cosmos decelerate, EVER?

Imagine that.
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I asked about that once, but she didn't answer. Instead her trolls pounced and told me that if I couldn't find left and right I was a moron. LOL


That sounds about right for them. After all, they can't seem to grasp the fact that when something appears to the right of the sun at sunset, it will appear to the left at sunrise. They think it is to the "right of the sun" all the time.
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Or that things are completely inverted for those in the opposite hemisphere.
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I asked about that once, but she didn't answer. Instead her trolls pounced and told me that if I couldn't find left and right I was a moron. LOL


That sounds about right for them. After all, they can't seem to grasp the fact that when something appears to the right of the sun at sunset, it will appear to the left at sunrise. They think it is to the "right of the sun" all the time.


Or that things are completely inverted for those in the opposite hemisphere.
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Now that would just confound them.

I see we have ACs on Soledad's thread demanding that the debunkers identify themselves and their credentials or we have no credibility. Of course Nancy is credible.
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