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The Lone Ranger (OP)

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You really are sick in the head KeepingItNot-soReal. Anger just seeths out of your head ... it's palpable!

You are perhaps the craziest new deflunker on the block ... you seem to bullshit the most, with almost every single thing you want to talk about having the smell of bullshit attached to it. You're just too damn stupid to know most of us can see right through it, and I think you actually believe your own diatribe! Pretty pathetic stuff ...
 Quoting: User # 78/68


Luserboy is projecting about himself again!!

Actually everything he said in the above quote really describes his posting activities in all truthfulness.
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Oh dear. I am going to lose sleep over this. My feelings are hurt. I really care what Luser thinks of me. NOT. What a tool!
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
The Lone Ranger (OP)

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I think this debunker thread is doing quite well.
 Quoting: tater 795879


Very true.

Everything having to do with the Zetas are thoroughly debunked.
 Quoting: tater 795879


Ms LIEDer can rant on as much as she wants but we all know that her every claim is pure bogus.

I think the ball is definitely in the zetas' court.
 Quoting: tater 795879


Definitely. But Ms LIEDer has yet to successfully counter ANY debunker. Reality is also not her friend.

So for the debunkers are doing a fine job of exposing the whole zetacult experience.
 Quoting: tater 795879


Could anyone here imagine ending up as indoctrinated as the likes of Andrew or Free Store? No thanks.

I think the zetas either need to put up or shut up.
 Quoting: tater 795879


They will not shut up until Nancy retires from spreading her crap on GLP.
Them Zitas, aka Nancy LIEDer in roleplaying mode, cannot put up because they are full of shit.

Sadly it goes the way of any cult,, they do neither.
 Quoting: tater 795879


Yes this has been shown to be true for well over ten years now.

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The Lone Ranger (OP)

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Oh dear. I am going to lose sleep over this. My feelings are hurt. I really care what Luser thinks of me. NOT. What a tool!
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Big_smile Luserboy really does believe that poster's give a flying crap about what he writes. But hey we will leave him to mire in his fantasy all by his wittle self. Over the years Luser just repeats the same old crap. He is the hit and run type. And yes A TOOL!! is a fitting way to describe his behaviour on GLP.

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Lone Ranger,

This quote from your signature says it all,

"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM

Yep, sure sounds like some wise words there. ;)

The zetas are all about absolute FAIL! :0)
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Her last hooraa .... well, if she believes what she says we STS will end up as octopus on waterworld while she will repopulate the world together with ZetaMax and Andrew.


Thanks, dude. Now I am going to have nightmares about that one.


chuckle ... wonder if ZetaMax and Andrew are looking forward to this. Guess Gerard is, he would finally get laid.

I'll rather choose the octopus option then.
 Quoting: ZetasDebunkinator

Being an octopi won't be so bad - you won't even remember having been human.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

ZetaMax
The Lone Ranger (OP)

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Lone Ranger,

This quote from your signature says it all,

"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM

Yep, sure sounds like some wise words there. ;)

The zetas are all about absolute FAIL! :0)
 Quoting: tater 795879


Yep. The AC who wrote that summed up all of Zetacrap in three descriptive sentences.

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Being an octopi won't be so bad - you won't even remember having been human.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Laff You silly FOOL!!
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Her last hooraa .... well, if she believes what she says we STS will end up as octopus on waterworld while she will repopulate the world together with ZetaMax and Andrew.


Thanks, dude. Now I am going to have nightmares about that one.


chuckle ... wonder if ZetaMax and Andrew are looking forward to this. Guess Gerard is, he would finally get laid.

I'll rather choose the octopus option then.

Being an octopi won't be so bad - you won't even remember having been human.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***



And for you being an octopus will mean an increase in intelligence and perhaps a decline in your shilling, lying and assholery.

As for not remembering being human. how do you remember what you never were?

Last Edited by The Commentator on 10/16/2009 11:49 PM
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
The Lone Ranger (OP)

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Indeed my friend!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Wow Melfy and Luser are friends!!

lol4me Oh the thought.

The :melfy: and the retard_u .

Makes a great pairing eh!!
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BULLETIN OF CANADIAN PETROLEUM GEOLOGY
VOL. 26, NO 1 (MARCH 1978), P. 164-168
COMMENTARY ON "CATASTROPHIC TERMINATION OF THE LAST WISCONSIN ICE ADVANCE, OBSERVATIONS IN ALBERTA AND IDAHO"
AND "INUNDATION TOPOGRAPHY IN THE COLUMBIA RIVER SYSTEM"
BY C. W. HUNT IN THE JUNE 1977 ISSUE

L. E. JACKSON, JR.'

In presenting his celestial influence theory for the emplacement of the Foothills Erratics Train and Lake Calgary sediments at the close of the Wisconsin glaciation, Hunt (1977a and b) has in general misinterpreted the few past studies he cited and has ignored the findings of many investigations which easily explain these deposits as the products of unassisted earth processes.

*****snipped for brevity*****

L.E. JACKSON, JR.
LI.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 795430


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And that, readers, is an example of a brutal, Rocky Balboa style, beat-down in a technical journal.
Hunt was probably comatose after this and never recovered.

How bad was it?
After showing Hunt to be an ignorant, incompetent crackpot with his scathing dissection of Hunt's "celestial influence theory for the emplacement of the Foothills Erratics Train", Jackson dismisses Hunt's Bonneville and Columbia 'anomalies' by saying it is just more of the same crackpottery, "... one must similarly appraise the origins Hunt proposes for the anomalous drainage features around Lake Bonneville and the Columbia River Scablands ...", and, "Rather than dismiss his arguments about the origin of these features point by point, which would require an extensive paper, I would refer the reader to papers by ...".
In other words - 'This is so bad that I don't have to debunk the rest since it is obvious from the first that this man is an idiot.'

But Jackson isn't done with Hunt. His parting shot is a full-power uppercut to Hunt's jaw, "In conclusion I would ask the reader to ponder what wide-reaching effects a 1500 m tide would have had throughout the world. ..."
Brutal. Mocking. Sarcastic.
Beatdowns rarely get better than this.

Jackson KOs the Crackpot in the first 30 seconds of round 1.

Thanks AC795430, I thought it was very funny.

Have fun.


R.
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So, when do we start a formal, systematic and in-depth debunking of the Tooth Fairy?

We can do it point-by-point.

1st question: What is the Tooth Fairy?

Remember to be objective and present both the pro-Tooth Fairy and anti-Tooth Fairy point of view.

Have fun.


R.
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But there are those who have had little science in school
who are easily confused by the claims that are made. Nancy
does come across as someone with facts to back her up. She
only comes across that way. It's when we examine those
"facts" that her claims fall to pieces. Take the excuse
of "tipping the Earth" to simulate seasons while the Earth
is halted. Anyone with any understanding of science would
know that is silly and wrong. Those who don't might think
it's a good excuse to explain how the Earth can be halted,
without even bothering to think of inertial forces when that
halt would have occurred.

I haven't regretted all the years I have tried to civilly
debunk her claims. I have ten years of history in this.
I have gotten countless PMs and emails from people thanking
me for helping to clear up their confusion. Those are the
people who I continue to do this for, along with myself
because I become better educated by doing all the research
I do when providing an explanation. It's fun for me to
learn things this way.
 Quoting: DrPostman

Good words. . . I am trying to represent those people who have not had the time or cannot devote the effort to research months and years of Nancy's statements. It took me considerable effort to discover many of her goofs and prejudices mainly because I don't have expertise in Physics, Astronomy, and Orbital Mechanics. To imagine a 3-D rotational construct of where the Earth is in relation to the planets and constellations is not easy to any one without considerable time and effort. You all know you have been trying to explain this for years to people. I have read books on quantum physics and string theory and have concluded we don't know the extent of the dimensional universe . . . so you listen to all comers. There are many sources which present circumstantial evidence which point to some type of ELE coming sometime in the future. It is being dramatized and presented on the History Channel almost daily. People and especially kids are frightened . . . people need to know what to say and where to go for information. I think you can help.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Classic troll behaviour. you are attempting to get people to 'admit' that there might be some kind of credibility to Nancy's crap.

ZetaTalk is BULLSHIT. If you take any part of it seriously you are a moron.

You are a bullshit artist plying your trade.

Hardly, I hope to God, none of her stuff even in the most remote way has any chance of reality. She is destructive.


So why are you trying to get people to waste their time 'investigating' it?

Because of what Dell said . . . she is destructive and continues to be destructive. On this Thread you have months sometimes years to debunk what she is saying . . . most people don't have that history. I hope to shorten the journey.


Good point, George.

I spotted the ZetaCult for probably the same reason any would,, curiosity. Then upon reading and especially viewing a few videos,, I can only conclude that Nancy's Zetas are without any credibility or worth comparison to reality.

Here's a couple thing I see about it,,,

1) The Zetas always LIE
2) Therefore the emissary likewise always LIES.
3) The cult followers sound and act just like their emissary.

zetas fail, right along with the whole cult.
 Quoting: tater 795879


Thanks for your comments. If what I am trying to do fails so what? At least I have tried. Believe me when I tell you all this stuff that Nancy and others are presenting for whatever reason they feel they need too is beginning to cause some bad outcomes. Someone needs to bring some reason back into the mix.
I don't mean to imply that this Thread and others have not had an effect . . . you have. However, many are turned off by the harsh battle between the two sides and just think both parties are playing a game. To me this is no game this is serious business.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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But there are those who have had little science in school
who are easily confused by the claims that are made. Nancy
does come across as someone with facts to back her up. She
only comes across that way. It's when we examine those
"facts" that her claims fall to pieces. Take the excuse
of "tipping the Earth" to simulate seasons while the Earth
is halted. Anyone with any understanding of science would
know that is silly and wrong. Those who don't might think
it's a good excuse to explain how the Earth can be halted,
without even bothering to think of inertial forces when that
halt would have occurred.

I haven't regretted all the years I have tried to civilly
debunk her claims. I have ten years of history in this.
I have gotten countless PMs and emails from people thanking
me for helping to clear up their confusion. Those are the
people who I continue to do this for, along with myself
because I become better educated by doing all the research
I do when providing an explanation. It's fun for me to
learn things this way.

Good words. . . I am trying to represent those people who have not had the time or cannot devote the effort to research months and years of Nancy's statements. It took me considerable effort to discover many of her goofs and prejudices mainly because I don't have expertise in Physics, Astronomy, and Orbital Mechanics. To imagine a 3-D rotational construct of where the Earth is in relation to the planets and constellations is not easy to any one without considerable time and effort. You all know you have been trying to explain this for years to people. I have read books on quantum physics and string theory and have concluded we don't know the extent of the dimensional universe . . . so you listen to all comers. There are many sources which present circumstantial evidence which point to some type of ELE coming sometime in the future. It is being dramatized and presented on the History Channel almost daily. People and especially kids are frightened . . . people need to know what to say and where to go for information. I think you can help.
 Quoting: George B



Seriously,the bulk of zetadrool can be debunked with nothing more than elementary school or jr. high school math and physics. It isn't that hard to learn, after all, elementary school students do it every day, or at least did before self esteem became more important than learning something.

I would start with PHYSICS FOR DUMMIES and ASTRONOMY FOR DUMMIES, both are cheap, readily available and do a decent job of getting the basic concepts across with math no more complex than elementary algebra. Good places to start. If you still believe nanny LIEDer after reading those two then you are beyond hope, there is nothing useful you can do in life so you may as well either kill yourself or become a lawyer...;-)
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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Sorry,

I have to take my wife downtown. I will be back later and will be happy to answer any question . . . I have nothing to hide. However, I would appreciate knowing who I am responding to . . . that is just courtesy.


Fair enough. I think I may have mis-judged you earlier, for which I apologise. But please, let's not over-intellectualise ZetaTalk - it is complete nonsense and a far better way to illuminate oneself would be to buy a book on popular science than to read all of its pages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 795767

Accepted! However, I do think you are missing the serious nature of her presentation . . . you think she is failing . . . I think there are far more people listening to her than you think. There is a ground swell of Exo-politics and many, many outlets that are giving credence to things even beyond Nancy's antics. She will ride the wave . . . I want her off the surf board.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Seriously,the bulk of zetadrool can be debunked with nothing more than elementary school or jr. high school math and physics. It isn't that hard to learn, after all, elementary school students do it every day, or at least did before self esteem became more important than learning something.

I would start with PHYSICS FOR DUMMIES and ASTRONOMY FOR DUMMIES, both are cheap, readily available and do a decent job of getting the basic concepts across with math no more complex than elementary algebra. Good places to start. If you still believe nanny LIEDer after reading those two then you are beyond hope, there is nothing useful you can do in life so you may as well either kill yourself or become a lawyer...;-)
 Quoting: The Commentator

You obviously think I am wasting my time . . . you could be right but let me ask you a question. Do you know William Dell and his story? Do you think he had no knowledge of astronomy, math, etc? He indicated he was taken in by Nancy. Could not other people waste a lot of time and effort making some bad decisions before the light bulb goes off? Think about it.

Last Edited by George B on 10/17/2009 01:34 AM
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Or he might be like Dell coming to a realization that the
claims that have been made are false, and wants convincing.
Even if he's trolling the convincing will help others. I'd
rather take that approach than an antagonistic one.
 Quoting: DrPostman


1) I came to the conclusion that Nancy Leiders claims were false back in 2003. I maintained my distance from this debate until Summer 2009, when asked to comment by Prof. Rabbit. My decision to maintain a profile on this thread was to ensure the 2012 parade wasn't lead by Zetatalk.

2) There really are few Zetatalk "believers" left. Some of the debunkers have been so long in the trenchs, I fear they only see an "us or them" situation. Some who have opposed Zetatalk for so long, may have difficulty adjusting to the peace of victory.

3) There are a lot of civilians running around with questions and the best way to treat anyone searching for knowledge is by instruction and education.

They are not "Zetatalk believers" , and if not treated with courtesy and a decent answer here, they will look for the answers somewhere else.

When someone inquires, there is no such thing as a stupid question when providing an answer.

3) I don't believe George B. is trolling anyone. He's to old for that. ;o) He is probably looking for answers to questions like the rest of us. And at least he's polite.

4) After being on GLP and this thread for 3 months, I can see that the number of Zetatalk "believers" has dwindled to a few. Of those few, 3 or 4 make a rare appearance on this thread.
There is no more fight. The war is over and mopping up is all there is to do with Zetatalk. It has no following left to speak of.


But there are those who have had little science in school
who are easily confused by the claims that are made. Nancy
does come across as someone with facts to back her up. She
only comes across that way. It's when we examine those
"facts" that her claims fall to pieces. Take the excuse
of "tipping the Earth" to simulate seasons while the Earth
is halted. Anyone with any understanding of science would
know that is silly and wrong. Those who don't might think
it's a good excuse to explain how the Earth can be halted,
without even bothering to think of inertial forces when that
halt would have occurred.

I haven't regretted all the years I have tried to civilly
debunk her claims. I have ten years of history in this.
I have gotten countless PMs and emails from people thanking
me for helping to clear up their confusion. Those are the
people who I continue to do this for, along with myself
because I become better educated by doing all the research
I do when providing an explanation. It's fun for me to
learn things this way.
 Quoting: DrPostman


1) Nancy Leiders claims have gotten so ridiculous, that it is hard for anyone to take them seriously anymore.And because of that, interest in her is waning rapidly.

2) There are a number of issues that could be researched using the individuals skill sets in this thread, to help understand our reality based on the scientific process.
I think that could be valuable.

3) Even with the demise of Zetatalk, we are still left with an issue.
Nancy Leider through Zetatalk has co-opted a number of theories from people.
And that has tainted the original theories and any discussion around them. (Was that by design?)

Those areas of discussion include telepathy, souls, life after death, Earth and Human history, astral projection, etc.

These are areas of interest that Nancy Leider has borrowed for her own purposes, and any discussion is now clouded by her involvement.
Anyone bringing up those theories in this arena for discussion could expect to be immediately attacked as a "believer" with "more Nancy bullshit" regardless of whose original theory it was. And with that, any rational discussion is out the window.

IMO, a number of theories could be brought forward for discussion and perhaps some consensual resolution based on the combined expertise of a group.

I am interested in that type of debate to expand my own knowledge base, and I suspect that might be what George B is after.

Perhaps this is not the right thread for this type of discussion, and submissions with a developed format.

This thread could be left to its original Zeta talk purpose until the dwindling diehards depart and it's not needed anymore, and another thread devoted to scientific discovery begun.

After all, page after page of insults back and forth get pretty tiresome after awhile, and I see even ZetaMax has grown weary of it.


Just my thoughts;

Kindest Regards
J.William Dell
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Seriously, with all due respect, there is nothing serious about anything Nancy says. She may be serious about it, (and I even have my doubts about that), but it is just part of her delusion. Only a handful of people take her seriously. People come and they go as soon as they see some of the crap she comes up with. Lately she is quite rude to new comers that ask questions. Not a good way to attract followers. Even posters like the one we affectionately knew as Bucketheadgirl (can't remember her moniker) used to hang out in support of Nancy, but has disappeared. Only the die hard Nancy fans like Max, Gerard, User, Freestore and Andrew follow her around like puppies, and we know what she does to puppies. Don't let the apparent unique ACs that post on her thread fool you. Max, User and Nancy herself have admitted to having multiple IPs. Freestore also posts under a couple of disguises. No matter how hard he tries to disguise himself, his unique brand of Freestoresque "logic" betray him. There simply can't be more people like him in this world. At least that is my hope.

Unfortunately, not everyone reading here is a stable mature adult. Kids can come and read here. People that are already teetering on the edge can read here. It is for them that I even bother to post counterpoint.
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Being an octopi won't be so bad - you won't even remember having been human.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

How's life over there at the CIA? Are you and User still sharing a cubicle?
A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos.
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What gives you the impression I believe in the Zetas? Most of my earlier comments have been to stimulate discussion and intelligent exchange between opposing positions.


DO you believe in The Zetas? Yes or no will suffice.


No. However, that doesn't mean that I don't believe that sentient life (beyond the human race) is impossible.


Do you believe that Planet X exists?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 795767

I don't believe it is in the solar system . . . I do believe there has been some historical search for a planetary body to explain a measurable perturbation of the outer planet orbits in our solar system. This is one of the reasons I want some insight from debunkers on what I have read and have seen on video from seemingly knowledgeable experts.

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Dr. Postman & Prof. Rabbit.

My apologies for not presenting a response comment on Pyramids and Sodom/Gomorrah this weekend as I had indicated I would.

Video project was dumped in my lap on short notice with a short deadline. This requires me to work ;o(

I will present it within a reasonable time as opportunity allows.

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Her last hooraa .... well, if she believes what she says we STS will end up as octopus on waterworld while she will repopulate the world together with ZetaMax and Andrew.
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Just to keep Nancy's story straight.
Not that its important ;o)

It's the "undecided" that become octopi,

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Seriously,the bulk of zetadrool can be debunked with nothing more than elementary school or jr. high school math and physics. It isn't that hard to learn, after all, elementary school students do it every day, or at least did before self esteem became more important than learning something.

I would start with PHYSICS FOR DUMMIES and ASTRONOMY FOR DUMMIES, both are cheap, readily available and do a decent job of getting the basic concepts across with math no more complex than elementary algebra. Good places to start. If you still believe nanny LIEDer after reading those two then you are beyond hope, there is nothing useful you can do in life so you may as well either kill yourself or become a lawyer...;-)

You obviously think I am wasting my time . . . you could be right but let me ask you a question. Do you know William Dell and his story? Do you think he had no knowledge of astronomy, math, etc? He indicated he was taken in by Nancy. Could not other people waste a lot of time and effort making some bad decisions before the light bulb goes off? Think about it.
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You have no idea what I am thinking. Your first mistake is thinking you know what I think or feel outside what I tell you.

I am familiar wit the Dell story, and I respect his integrity and character.

But I have no idea what his math or physics knowledge was when he encountered zetacrap for the first time. Why don't you ask him? He knows better than I would.

Con artists and the insane can sometimes be quite credible, but that does not mean the stories they tell reflect reality.
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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3) There are a lot of civilians running around with questions and the best way to treat anyone searching for knowledge is by instruction and education.

They are not "Zetatalk believers" , and if not treated with courtesy and a decent answer here, they will look for the answers somewhere else.

When someone inquires, there is no such thing as a stupid question when providing an answer.

3) I don't believe George B. is trolling anyone. He's to old for that. ;o) He is probably looking for answers to questions like the rest of us. And at least he's polite.

4) After being on GLP and this thread for 3 months, I can see that the number of Zetatalk "believers" has dwindled to a few. Of those few, 3 or 4 make a rare appearance on this thread.
There is no more fight. The war is over and mopping up is all there is to do with Zetatalk. It has no following left to speak of.


1) Nancy Leiders claims have gotten so ridiculous, that it is hard for anyone to take them seriously anymore.And because of that, interest in her is waning rapidly.

2) There are a number of issues that could be researched using the individuals skill sets in this thread, to help understand our reality based on the scientific process.
I think that could be valuable.

3) Even with the demise of Zetatalk, we are still left with an issue.
Nancy Leider through Zetatalk has co-opted a number of theories from people.
And that has tainted the original theories and any discussion around them. (Was that by design?)

Those areas of discussion include telepathy, souls, life after death, Earth and Human history, astral projection, etc.

These are areas of interest that Nancy Leider has borrowed for her own purposes, and any discussion is now clouded by her involvement.
Anyone bringing up those theories in this arena for discussion could expect to be immediately attacked as a "believer" with "more Nancy bullshit" regardless of whose original theory it was. And with that, any rational discussion is out the window.

IMO, a number of theories could be brought forward for discussion and perhaps some consensual resolution based on the combined expertise of a group.

I am interested in that type of debate to expand my own knowledge base, and I suspect that might be what George B is after.

Perhaps this is not the right thread for this type of discussion, and submissions with a developed format.

This thread could be left to its original Zeta talk purpose until the dwindling diehards depart and it's not needed anymore, and another thread devoted to scientific discovery begun.

After all, page after page of insults back and forth get pretty tiresome after awhile, and I see even ZetaMax has grown weary of it.


Just my thoughts;

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J.William Dell
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I agree with what you are saying . . . the ultimate issues go beyond ZetaTalk and maybe this Thread; I just want a better way to accomplish what was started here if possible. I really don't care how it is done I just would like to help motivate it and participate if possible.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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What gives you the impression I believe in the Zetas? Most of my earlier comments have been to stimulate discussion and intelligent exchange between opposing positions.


DO you believe in The Zetas? Yes or no will suffice.


No. However, that doesn't mean that I don't believe that sentient life (beyond the human race) is impossible.


Do you believe that Planet X exists?

I don't believe it is in the solar system . . . I do believe there has been some historical search for a planetary body to explain a measurable perturbation of the outer planet orbits in our solar system. This is one of the reasons I want some insight from debunkers on what I have read and have seen on video from seemingly knowledgeable experts.
 Quoting: George B



The residuals that were thought to exist in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune went away when the Voyager spacecraft refined the mass of both bodies. The measurments had enough error in them that the short arc solutions indicated there may have been a larger, undiscovered outer planet.

So that particular avenue of research turned out to be a dead end.
non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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You have no idea what I am thinking. Your first mistake is thinking you know what I think or feel outside what I tell you.

I am familiar wit the Dell story, and I respect his integrity and character.

But I have no idea what his math or physics knowledge was when he encountered zetacrap for the first time. Why don't you ask him? He knows better than I would.

Con artists and the insane can sometimes be quite credible, but that does not mean the stories they tell reflect reality.
 Quoting: The Commentator

Seems we are talking past each other . . . do you think my suggestions are a waste of time or not? I am proposing a more systematic way to inform people of issues knowledgeable people have reviewed and analyzed and given their take on . . . Nancy and Zeta Talk are presently the primary target.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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You obviously think I am wasting my time . . . you could be right but let me ask you a question. Do you know William Dell and his story? Do you think he had no knowledge of astronomy, math, etc? He indicated he was taken in by Nancy. Could not other people waste a lot of time and effort making some bad decisions before the light bulb goes off? Think about it.
 Quoting: George B


Just so you know, George B.

The quick answers regarding

Physics - basic understanding
Math - basic understanding
Astronomy - basic understanding and little interest. I do enjoy the images taken, but the distances involved are too great and have little bearing on my day to day.

I was/am a (terrestrial) photo imager who opened his mouth when he shouldn't have in 2002, and reaped the consequences.

Bad decision - wasted a lot of time.

Cest la Vie.

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Dr. Postman & Prof. Rabbit.
My apologies for not presenting a response comment on Pyramids and Sodom/Gomorrah this weekend as I had indicated I would.
Video project was dumped in my lap on short notice with a short deadline. This requires me to work ;o(
I will present it within a reasonable time as opportunity allows.
Kindest Regards
J.William Dell


If you would start a new thread and give us a heads up on
this one I would appreciate it. I was actually feeling
guilty for thinking I had missed some replies by you on
that subject and I had plans to find the time to review
over this thread.
 Quoting: DrPostman



Will Do

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JWD
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There are many sources which present circumstantial evidence which point to some type of ELE coming sometime in the future. It is being dramatized and presented on the History Channel almost daily. People and especially kids are frightened . . . people need to know what to say and where to go for information. I think you can help.


You're going to have to be more specific than that. What is
an "ELE" and what shows on THC are you referring to?
 Quoting: DrPostman

(ELE) Extinction Level Events . . . series of "Nostradamus Effect", The World Without People, Bible Code, Seven Ways the World Could End, Leonardo De Vinci's Deluge, and on and on and on . . . I don't have the exact names but I think you get the idea. If you want the exact names etc. let me know and I will get them for you.

By-the-way what does LOL mean? Time for bed, will talk tomorrow.

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All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
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The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B

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