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You have no idea what I am thinking. Your first mistake is thinking you know what I think or feel outside what I tell you.

I am familiar wit the Dell story, and I respect his integrity and character.

But I have no idea what his math or physics knowledge was when he encountered zetacrap for the first time. Why don't you ask him? He knows better than I would.

Con artists and the insane can sometimes be quite credible, but that does not mean the stories they tell reflect reality.

Seems we are talking past each other . . . do you think my suggestions are a waste of time or not? I am proposing a more systematic way to inform people of issues knowledgeable people have reviewed and analyzed and given their take on . . . Nancy and Zeta Talk are presently the primary target.
 Quoting: George B



I don't think we are talking past each other at all: You asked some reasonable questions and I either answered them as best I could or suggested a better source for answers.

And, you propose a slippery slope. I have no intention of conducting a class in remedial physics and math. Sorry, but I have neither the time nor inclination.

At the worst we have a simple difference of opinion as to approach when confronted with rock hard dingbattery. You suggest one way, and I simply don't have time to undertake such a project.

Sorry.

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non sufficit Orbis

Being a zetatard means never having to make sense.

"Nancy pays me to post on Her threads"

Free Store admits to being a paid zetadrool shill

NO max/bridget EVER!!!!!
NO luser EVER!!!
NO clunker EVER!!!!!
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There are many sources which present circumstantial evidence which point to some type of ELE coming sometime in the future. It is being dramatized and presented on the History Channel almost daily. People and especially kids are frightened . . . people need to know what to say and where to go for information. I think you can help.


You're going to have to be more specific than that. What is
an "ELE" and what shows on THC are you referring to?




 Quoting: DrPostman


ELE = Extinction Level Event (i.e., one big honking meteor hitting the earth)

He's been watching too much History Channel. I gave up on that channel when the quality of their programs started taking a dive (like every other channel on cable).
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There are many sources which present circumstantial evidence which point to some type of ELE coming sometime in the future. It is being dramatized and presented on the History Channel almost daily. People and especially kids are frightened . . . people need to know what to say and where to go for information. I think you can help.


You're going to have to be more specific than that. What is
an "ELE" and what shows on THC are you referring to?

(ELE) Extinction Level Events . . . series of "Nostradamus Effect", The World Without People, Bible Code, Seven Ways the World Could End, Leonardo De Vinci's Deluge, and on and on and on . . . I don't have the exact names but I think you get the idea. If you want the exact names etc. let me know and I will get them for you.

By-the-way what does LOL mean? Time for bed, will talk tomorrow.
 Quoting: George B


LOL = laughing out loud

Then there's the higher form: ROFL = Rolling on floor laughing
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7.6 km2 against 9.0 km2 australia to cananda- so canada is a bit bigger but not by much...
;-)
You're right. I stand corrected.
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Land: 9,093,507 km2
Australia
Land: 7,686,850 km2
That is a BIG Island! ;o)
Hope to see as much as we can.
Or at least the best of...
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good on ya mate

if ya get up around nth qld (mackay) ways i'd be proud to shout ya a round or 12

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AC 763624 from Australia

Can you PM me at GLP or get an Email connection between us to discuss Australia further?


Kindest Regards
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The point is most of us do not have the knowledge or background to debunk seemingly logical, well presented, and misleading information. If you want to try to fool me regarding, biology, medicine or law I can take you on. I don't even know were to start to debunk astronomy.
 Quoting: George B


Strangely enough all you need is common sense. Here is some common sense related to Nancy's concept of a "pole shift" as relayed by the "zetas"


According to Nancy the Earth stops first, then turns 90 degrees in one hour, the Earth currently spins at 1,100mph, one quarter of a turn requires 6 hours, for the same distance to be covered in just one hour we have a change in speed turn speed of 6,600mph.

Part A - where we stop the Earth rotation.
Now 70 percent of the Earth's surface is water, if you stop the Earth's crust from rotating the water will attempt to keep going, not sure? pour a glass of water over a basketball. Easy to see.

So all that water will roll over everything, Mt. Everest included, all this at faster than the speed of sound. Remember the Earth's rotation speed is 1,100 mph.

Part B - where we flip the Earth 90 degrees.
Now all that previous water is beginning to settle back into the basins from where it came, now you tilt the Earth 90 degrees at 6,600,mph, for a very brief time the water will try to stay in place due to inertia however once it's moving the water is now moving at 9 times the speed of sound.

That amount of water at that speed will scour the Earth's surface right down to bedrock.

Now throw in the mega upheavals claimed to the Earth's crust, the massive movements to the Earth's tectonic plates (see the plate graphics here) [link to www.iris.edu]
You now have an Earth's crust that is molten rock, yes the entire planet, the seas turn to super heated steam.

You are dead! So is everything else, right down to microbes.
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The last one was mine, got logged out.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind"
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If you keep calling me names, I'll have to quit posting on this thread!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Melfey the sock puppet, loose threads and no brains.
"Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind"
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Yeah, just imagine this. Nancy's planet x does arrive, oceans sloshing all over the place. Cadavers everywhere, volcanoes exploding and hurricane force winds, earthquakes of magnitudes never before seen on earth, the sweeping arms of the sun doing whatever it is she insist it they will do, the hosing of the tail, everything leaning to the left. Nancy drags herself to the computer one last time to declare HAHA Zetas Right, just before she succumbs to the same death as every other living thing on the planet. Then Nancy "wins". ROFLMAO


chuckle

Her last hooraa .... well, if she believes what she says we STS will end up as octopus on waterworld while she will repopulate the world together with ZetaMax and Andrew.
 Quoting: ZetasDebunkinator



uggggghhhhhhhh

thankyou ZetasDebunkinator

and right as I'm eating dinner too......


(anyone else want a nice thai chilli rice dish- im suddenly not hungry anymore with THAT image in my mind....)
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No one has debunked this paper other than to complain about the "date" it was written. Care to dispute that???
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Yes, I did, quite some time ago.
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Issue Sponsor: George B. background: Biology, Medicine, Law
 Quoting: George B


You have a background in biology, consider the following from Nancy's site and the application, quite simply would the following concept work.


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Methods of birth control from the Troubled Times survival guide...

Plug and Play

From the Aboriginals of Australia comes this method which is crude, but effective. It requires some primitive surgery. A hole is made in the base of the male penis, into which a wooden plug can be inserted. During intercourse this plug is removed, enabling ejaculation to take place through the hole in the base of the penis. When conception is desired, the plug is left in place. Not exactly an attractive solution, but desperate situations do require desperate measures.
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No one has debunked this paper other than to complain about the "date" it was written. Care to dispute that???


Yes, I did, quite some time ago.
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

Yes, and more than once. I predict Max will now change the subject and won't bring it up again until he figures nobody remembers. He will wait until he is getting his ass handed to him about something completely different, and out of the blue he will bring it up and send the discussion on a different tangent. I predict he will then claim again that nobody has ever been able to debunk it, and the cycle of trolling continues.
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Issue Sponsor: George B. background: Biology, Medicine, Law


You have a background in biology, consider the following from Nancy's site and the application, quite simply would the following concept work.


quote
Methods of birth control from the Troubled Times survival guide...

Plug and Play

From the Aboriginals of Australia comes this method which is crude, but effective. It requires some primitive surgery. A hole is made in the base of the male penis, into which a wooden plug can be inserted. During intercourse this plug is removed, enabling ejaculation to take place through the hole in the base of the penis. When conception is desired, the plug is left in place. Not exactly an attractive solution, but desperate situations do require desperate measures.
end quote
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit


Did Nancy came up with this, or one of her followers ? Are there any confirmed reports about Aboriginals of Australia doing this ?
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Issue Sponsor: George B. background: Biology, Medicine, Law


You have a background in biology, consider the following from Nancy's site and the application, quite simply would the following concept work.


quote
Methods of birth control from the Troubled Times survival guide...

Plug and Play

From the Aboriginals of Australia comes this method which is crude, but effective. It requires some primitive surgery. A hole is made in the base of the male penis, into which a wooden plug can be inserted. During intercourse this plug is removed, enabling ejaculation to take place through the hole in the base of the penis. When conception is desired, the plug is left in place. Not exactly an attractive solution, but desperate situations do require desperate measures.
end quote


Did Nancy came up with this, or one of her followers ? Are there any confirmed reports about Aboriginals of Australia doing this ?
 Quoting: ZetasDebunkinator 794884

This is one of my favorites! I believe it is an entry in her survival manual. I would be interested to hear the opinion of someone with expertise in medicine and biology. I don't think the aboriginals did any such things. It sounds more like something an extreme feminist would come up with.
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Methods of birth control from the Troubled Times survival guide...

Plug and Play

From the Aboriginals of Australia comes this method which is crude, but effective. It requires some primitive surgery. A hole is made in the base of the male penis, into which a wooden plug can be inserted. During intercourse this plug is removed, enabling ejaculation to take place through the hole in the base of the penis. When conception is desired, the plug is left in place. Not exactly an attractive solution, but desperate situations do require desperate measures.
end quote


Did Nancy came up with this, or one of her followers ? Are there any confirmed reports about Aboriginals of Australia doing this ?
 Quoting: ZetasDebunkinator 794884


No reports whatsoever, Nancy picked the Australian Aboriginals because her world (the US) knows very little about Australia. However the Australian Aboriginals had no metal tools until the arrival of the First Fleet, ergo nothing sharp enough to perform such surgery.

More importantly the concept is completely flawed, if you are male you can figure this out quite simply.
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More importantly the concept is completely flawed, if you are male you can figure this out quite simply.
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Yep
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
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quote
Methods of birth control from the Troubled Times survival guide...

Plug and Play

From the Aboriginals of Australia comes this method which is crude, but effective. It requires some primitive surgery. A hole is made in the base of the male penis, into which a wooden plug can be inserted. During intercourse this plug is removed, enabling ejaculation to take place through the hole in the base of the penis. When conception is desired, the plug is left in place. Not exactly an attractive solution, but desperate situations do require desperate measures.
end quote


Did Nancy came up with this, or one of her followers ? Are there any confirmed reports about Aboriginals of Australia doing this ?

This is one of my favorites! I believe it is an entry in her survival manual. I would be interested to hear the opinion of someone with expertise in medicine and biology. I don't think the aboriginals did any such things. It sounds more like something an extreme feminist would come up with.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


For ZetasDebunkinator

So how would you take a pee?

"When conception is desired, the plug is left in place." really? so you plug the urethra and ejaculate.... how?

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You're going to have to be more specific than that. What is
an "ELE" and what shows on THC are you referring to?

(ELE) Extinction Level Events . . . series of "Nostradamus Effect", The World Without People, Bible Code, Seven Ways the World Could End, Leonardo De Vinci's Deluge, and on and on and on . . . I don't have the exact names but I think you get the idea. If you want the exact names etc. let me know and I will get them for you.


 Quoting: George B


All bullshit. You need to get out more and stop focussing on negativity.
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Good words. . . I am trying to represent those people who have not had the time or cannot devote the effort to research months and years of Nancy's statements. It took me considerable effort to discover many of her goofs and prejudices mainly because I don't have expertise in Physics, Astronomy, and Orbital Mechanics.
 Quoting: George B


You don't need ANY expertise in ANY subject to know that Nancy's bullshit is just that - all you need is BASIC intelligence.

If it took you 'considerable effort' you must be very stupid.
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To imagine a 3-D rotational construct of where the Earth is in relation to the planets and constellations is not easy to any one without considerable time and effort.
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What are you on about? Planet X is impossible for many reasons. Gravity is one of them!
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I don't mean to imply that this Thread and others have not had an effect . . . you have. However, many are turned off by the harsh battle between the two sides and just think both parties are playing a game. To me this is no game this is serious business.
 Quoting: George B


But that's because YOU are a kOOk who believes in bullshit Doomsday scenarios.

ZetaTalk is NOT a serious business. It is a stupid cult of ignorance and lies, and its few 'followers' are pathetic idiots.
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Accepted! However, I do think you are missing the serious nature of her presentation . . . you think she is failing . . . I think there are far more people listening to her than you think. There is a ground swell of Exo-politics and many, many outlets that are giving credence to things even beyond Nancy's antics. She will ride the wave . . . I want her off the surf board.
 Quoting: George B


I don't believe you. NOBODY takes her seriously.

The thing is, I think you are a 'closet believer'.
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Do you believe that Planet X exists?

I don't believe it is in the solar system . . . I do believe there has been some historical search for a planetary body to explain a measurable perturbation of the outer planet orbits in our solar system. This is one of the reasons I want some insight from debunkers on what I have read and have seen on video from seemingly knowledgeable experts.
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I knew it. You are almost as bad as Nancy.
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NONE of those images shows Planet X either. PURE LIES from Nancy's Cult of LIES!
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:excited: Ms LIEDer is so desperate for GLPers to buy her debunked silly self proclaimed images of her so called rogue planet. Nancy is feeling the affect of being starved of attention on GLP.

She's as mad as hell!!

:excited: Great entertainment indeed.

Thread: NASA's Cassini and IBEX Prove Zetas RIGHT Again!!! (Page 3)
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Now watch the debunkers post that old tired cut and paste on ZT missed predictions, wherein the post ALL the pole shift aspects and state 'it did not happen in 2003'.
That's ONE failed prediction, not a zillion.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

And it DID arrive in 2003, as predicted.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


How sad. Nancy must be feeling so lonely on GLP these days.

ROTFLMAO!! Ms LIEDer still vehemently declares that her rogue planet arrived exactly as predicted in 2003.

lol4me No further discussion required. But here's a little tune for you and your remaining disciples Nancy....


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NONE of those images shows Planet X either. PURE LIES from Nancy's Cult of LIES!


:excited: Ms LIEDer is so desperate for GLPers to buy her debunked silly self proclaimed images of her so called rogue planet. Nancy is feeling the affect of being starved of attention on GLP.

She's as mad as hell!!

:excited: Great entertainment indeed.

Thread: NASA's Cassini and IBEX Prove Zetas RIGHT Again!!! (Page 3)
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


Yep! Great, isn't it? :-)))
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I'm sorry I can't listen to Nancy. After the whole Puppy heaven thing, no one should take her seriously. What bothers me most is the people that actually dispatched their pets unto the great unknown were her most devout followers, and quite frankly not wound real tight. Those kinds of people develop extremely strong bonds with their pets, making the whole experience that much more painful.

I would gain a measure of respect for Nancy if she actually apologized to those people, and helped ameliorate their pain, if she did that would be great, did you Nancy. If so excellent, if not I don't see how a benevolent alien race would waste their time with you.
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Not likely. Ms LIEDer does not apologize to anybody. Afterall the woman is the great self proclaimed human emissary to the Zetas and she is just their messenger. Nancy speaks very much with a forked tongue at the best of times. Nancy is arrogant; shows little compassion; and lies through her teeth constantly.
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The latest desperate attempt by the debunkers, who hope that the public is so STUPID that they will just read what the debunkers say and BUY it! The debunkers last hope for getting their bonus check.

 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Poor Nancy is getting desperate for attention. Who is hoping the public is stupid? The so called debunkers don't expect people to just believe us. That's why we try to back up what we say with common sense and evidence. When in doubt, invoke the "paid debunker" argument, as if Nancy and her pathetic cult are a threat to the establishment. Exaggerated self importance is a trait of cult leaders.

Actually, my website hits are 3 times what they were in 2003, and rising. Lately, my bandwidth charges are way high so I suspect the trend has moved it further.

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Yeah, whatever Nancy. I would like to see the proof of that! I mean, you are all about backing up your claims with evidence.

Just put this latest Zetas RIGHT Again in the ZetaTalk Accuracy section.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Along with recent additions of Moon Plume (they were right the Moon bomb thing would not go off as NASA hoped)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Shroud of Turin (they were right it was faked)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Swine Flu (they were right stating right off it was an engineered virus)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Air Force One Flyover (they stated in the chats Obama was unaware and it was done to embarrass Obama)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Imploding Buildings prediction coming true.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Just a sample of recent Zetas RIGHT Again.
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Not this again. How many times does she need to get slapped down before she just admits to her dismal "accuracy track record. Again, who is it that expects people to just believe? I know we can shoot down each of these supposed hits, but my pillow is calling me.

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As an understudy of Zetatalk, I am putting pieces together as to people saying when will this pole shift happen. One can see by looking at the earthquake sites that the crustal shift has already begun.Really no need to point the finger much and say look. One can now see...

So getting ready for winter, I get snowed in here pretty well.
 Quoting: Free Store


lol4me Mr FrEaKy never disappoints for a good laugh.

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When in doubt, invoke the "paid debunker" argument, as if Nancy and her pathetic cult are a threat to the establishment. Exaggerated self importance is a trait of cult leaders.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Nancy once claimed that the Zetas said that she was a threat to the Whitehouse.

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Looks like we hit a nerve Nancy - when threatened you start posting like crazy.
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You're on to it. Your observation is totally correct. This is a classic sign of LIEDer desperation.

lol4me Nancy is also feeling the heat of a lack of attention to her website.
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