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Do you believe that Planet X exists?

I don't believe it is in the solar system . . . I do believe there has been some historical search for a planetary body to explain a measurable perturbation of the outer planet orbits in our solar system. This is one of the reasons I want some insight from debunkers on what I have read and have seen on video from seemingly knowledgeable experts.


I knew it. You are almost as bad as Nancy.
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"The residuals that were thought to exist in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune went away when the Voyager spacecraft refined the mass of both bodies. The measurments had enough error in them that the short arc solutions indicated there may have been a larger, undiscovered outer planet.

So that particular avenue of research turned out to be a dead end." From the Commentator

By-the-way this was a rather recent finding . . .
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Great thread, Nancy. Good to see you in such a feisty mood today. The world view of the pathetic hecklers, deniers, and those who live in total fear of PX is crumbling. . . . I say, deal with it!
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Oh lookie there, Soledaddy, C_Little it's July 22nd 2009 and ALL the world can see that great big old Planet "X" in da sky.

lol4me Yes,Soledaddy, we all trembled with great fear that day.

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Do you believe that Planet X exists?

I don't believe it is in the solar system . . . I do believe there has been some historical search for a planetary body to explain a measurable perturbation of the outer planet orbits in our solar system. This is one of the reasons I want some insight from debunkers on what I have read and have seen on video from seemingly knowledgeable experts.


I knew it. You are almost as bad as Nancy.

"The residuals that were thought to exist in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune went away when the Voyager spacecraft refined the mass of both bodies. The measurments had enough error in them that the short arc solutions indicated there may have been a larger, undiscovered outer planet.

So that particular avenue of research turned out to be a dead end." From the Commentator

By-the-way this was a rather recent finding . . .
 Quoting: George B


I knew it. You are just a Planet X troll, trying to get 'debunkers' to 'agree' that 'maybe' Planet X is real.

There are certainly other undiscovered objects that are a distant part of our solar system, but none of them is a 'brown dwarf' that zips in every 3600 years causing havoc.

That is PURE pseudo-science, iow, bullshit.
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Great thread, Nancy. Good to see you in such a feisty mood today. The world view of the pathetic hecklers, deniers, and those who live in total fear of PX is crumbling. . . . I say, deal with it!


Oh lookie there, Soledaddy, :C_Little: it's July 22nd 2009 and ALL the world can see that great big old Planet "X" in da sky.

:lol4me: Yes,Soledaddy, we all trembled with great fear that day.
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I trembled in fear that people as stupid as Soledad are walking the streets!

:5:
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I trembled in fear that people as stupid as Soledad are walking the streets!

:5:
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Oh yes they are out there.

And Soledaddy is about as dufos as they come on GLP.

You see that Soledaddy has learnt to play C_Little , just like her beloved LIEDer, despite her own recent prediction failure on GLP.

Sorry there Soledaddy but one strike and you're out on GLP. But hey I'm sure we have a few kooks around here who will gladly listen to ya rantings.
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I trembled in fear that people as stupid as Soledad are walking the streets!

:5:


Oh yes they are out there.

And Soledaddy is about as :dufos: as they come on GLP.

You see that Soledaddy has learnt to play :C_Little: , just like her beloved LIEDer, despite her own recent prediction failure on GLP.

Sorry there Soledaddy but one strike and you're out on GLP. But hey I'm sure we have a few kooks around here who will gladly listen to ya rantings.
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They all do it don't they? They all feel from time to time an eruption of FERVOUR that causes them to make some dumbass prediction. I think it's a bit like an act of devotion to their cult, they sort of throw themselves at the mercy of their faith in bullshit. Then they can act like martyrs when everybody laughs at their miserable failure.

Gerard is at it again I see.

These people are all twisted misanthropic sociopaths! They like suffering!
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It's obvious that a few of us have struck a major nerve with Nancy in her latest thread from yesterday. She's trying desperately to do some damage control...naturally, the best she can muster is to claim we're being paid to be here, which is a true sign of desperation.
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It's obvious that a few of us have struck a major nerve with Nancy in her latest thread from yesterday. She's trying desperately to do some damage control...naturally, the best she can muster is to claim we're being paid to be here, which is a true sign of desperation.
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If you believe Nancy, 99.999999% of the world's population is paid by 'TPTB' to contradict her Divine Wisdom.
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If you believe Nancy, 99.999999% of the world's population is paid by 'TPTB' to contradict her Divine Wisdom.
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It's funny how you suddenly become a "paid debunker" simply because you don't believe her. Like you said, that means 99.999999% of Earth's population is on the take.
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In fact, it seems surprising that not more attention has been paid to Nemesis by conspiracy theorists and doomsayers. Planet X (a.k.a. Nibiru from the misunderstood Sumerian text), in comparison, seems like a petty concern when we are talking about a “second sun” that could be responsible for extinguishing life on Earth with alarming frequency.
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I knew it. You are here to troll the same tired old Planet X crap that has been debunked numerous times before. You're like ZetaMax and his mammoths.
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I knew it. You are here to troll the same tired old Planet X crap that has been debunked numerous times before. You're like ZetaMax and his mammoths.
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You don't have the courtesy to I.D., yourself why don't you come out in the open? Since I don't know which Anonymous Coward is which . . . who do I address? I hide nothing you can follow all my statements from the beginning until now . . . how about you?

Sorry,

I have to take my wife downtown. I will be back later and will be happy to answer any question . . . I have nothing to hide. However, I would appreciate knowing who I am responding to . . . that is just courtesy.

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Fair enough. I think I may have mis-judged you earlier, for which I apologise. But please, let's not over-intellectualise ZetaTalk - it is complete nonsense and a far better way to illuminate oneself would be to buy a book on popular science than to read all of its pages.

Accepted! However, I do think you are missing the serious nature of her presentation . . . you think she is failing . . . I think there are far more people listening to her than you think. There is a ground swell of Exo-politics and many, many outlets that are giving credence to things even beyond Nancy's antics. She will ride the wave . . . I want her off the surf board.
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The point is most of us do not have the knowledge or background to debunk seemingly logical, well presented, and misleading information. If you want to try to fool me regarding, biology, medicine or law I can take you on. I don't even know were to start to debunk astronomy.


Strangely enough all you need is common sense. Here is some common sense related to Nancy's concept of a "pole shift" as relayed by the "zetas"


According to Nancy the Earth stops first, then turns 90 degrees in one hour, the Earth currently spins at 1,100mph, one quarter of a turn requires 6 hours, for the same distance to be covered in just one hour we have a change in speed turn speed of 6,600mph.

Part A - where we stop the Earth rotation.
Now 70 percent of the Earth's surface is water, if you stop the Earth's crust from rotating the water will attempt to keep going, not sure? pour a glass of water over a basketball. Easy to see.

So all that water will roll over everything, Mt. Everest included, all this at faster than the speed of sound. Remember the Earth's rotation speed is 1,100 mph.

Part B - where we flip the Earth 90 degrees.
Now all that previous water is beginning to settle back into the basins from where it came, now you tilt the Earth 90 degrees at 6,600,mph, for a very brief time the water will try to stay in place due to inertia however once it's moving the water is now moving at 9 times the speed of sound.

That amount of water at that speed will scour the Earth's surface right down to bedrock.

Now throw in the mega upheavals claimed to the Earth's crust, the massive movements to the Earth's tectonic plates (see the plate graphics here) [link to www.iris.edu]
You now have an Earth's crust that is molten rock, yes the entire planet, the seas turn to super heated steam.

You are dead! So is everything else, right down to microbes.
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Your analysis is interesting . . . however, it is not common sense. Your analysis goes beyond the common sense of the average person.

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You obviously think I am wasting my time . . . you could be right but let me ask you a question. Do you know William Dell and his story? Do you think he had no knowledge of astronomy, math, etc? He indicated he was taken in by Nancy. Could not other people waste a lot of time and effort making some bad decisions before the light bulb goes off? Think about it.


Just so you know, George B.

The quick answers regarding

Physics - basic understanding
Math - basic understanding
Astronomy - basic understanding and little interest. I do enjoy the images taken, but the distances involved are too great and have little bearing on my day to day.

I was/am a (terrestrial) photo imager who opened his mouth when he shouldn't have in 2002, and reaped the consequences.

Bad decision - wasted a lot of time.

Cest la Vie.

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Thanks!
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(ELE) Extinction Level Events . . . series of "Nostradamus Effect", The World Without People, Bible Code, Seven Ways the World Could End, Leonardo De Vinci's Deluge, and on and on and on . . . I don't have the exact names but I think you get the idea. If you want the exact names etc. let me know and I will get them for you.

By-the-way what does LOL mean? Time for bed, will talk tomorrow.


Laugh Out Loud. As far as the doomsday shows THC does that
every few months, and I expect more to increase the closer
2012 gets. It just makes good business sense from their
angle to hype that kind of stuff. THC isn't exactly known
for 100% historical accuracy. One show I heard them describe
"Patton leading the German 3rd Army against the Allies". I
nearly fell out of my chair from laughing.
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Then maybe we need to debunk the History Channel as well . . .
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I knew it. You are here to troll the same tired old Planet X crap that has been debunked numerous times before. You're like ZetaMax and his mammoths.

You don't have the courtesy to I.D., yourself why don't you come out in the open? Since I don't know which Anonymous Coward is which . . . who do I address? I hide nothing you can follow all my statements from the beginning until now . . . how about you?

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I retract my apology! You ARE a troll!
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Then maybe we need to debunk the History Channel as well . . .
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Maybe you just need to read a few decent books. Your head is full of bullshit.
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When it comes to Planet X (Lowell's, Harrington, Iorio, et al) and Nancy's planet x you must not confuse the two. They are two mutually exclusive objects.

As for Iorio's paper, it is available in full here as a download:

[link to arxiv.org]
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PXers always deliberately confuse evidence - it is one of their standard techniques. They take evidence of one thing and then twist or spin it to make it seem like it is supporting exactly what they want to believe. Happens all the time.
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When it comes to Planet X (Lowell's, Harrington, Iorio, et al) and Nancy's planet x you must not confuse the two. They are two mutually exclusive objects.

As for Iorio's paper, it is available in full here as a download:

[link to arxiv.org]


PXers always deliberately confuse evidence - it is one of their standard techniques. They take evidence of one thing and then twist or spin it to make it seem like it is supporting exactly what they want to believe. Happens all the time.
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The problem is that none of them has bothered to read any of the scientific literature concerning Planet X. Harrington's papers are an interesting read and if you bother to analyze them you'll see that his Planet X in no way, shape, or form resembles Nancy's planet x.

Pretty much the same for Iorio's recent papers (I'm trudging through two of his latest).

Essentially, Nancy Lieder and similar woo-woo's have co-opted the scientific research on potential planets in the outer reaches of the solar system as proof of their ignorant rantings.

Nancy Lieder is probably the most guilty of this type of behavior. Part of this has to do with her ignorance of anything scientific or technical. She doesn't know how to read a seismograph trace yet she claims it proves the existence of "global earthquakes" and the magnetic tugging of planet x on the Earth. She doesn't know about GPS but claims that bulletins addressing GPS inaccuracy because of atmospheric conditions proves that GPS is failing.

Unfortunately, many of her believers suffer from the same fate - ignorance of the scientific and technical. They assume that if it sounds plausible, it must be true.
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There's another thing - "debunkers" have never said that some "Planet X," or some other planet beyond Pluto, doesn't exist. We've simply said that "Planet X" doesn't exist as Nancy claims. It is not now, or has ever been, sitting anywhere near the sun. There is no evidence of it. Sure, they (flunkers) provide "photos" of what they claim is "Planet X"...but these can be easily dismissed as lens flare, sun dogs or over exposure. They could easily put the whole issue to rest by getting a relatively inexpensive telescope, a solar filter and then photograph what they claim is "Planet X." Maybe some of them have tried...only to find that once they got everything set up, there was nothing there.
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When it comes to Planet X (Lowell's, Harrington, Iorio, et al) and Nancy's planet x you must not confuse the two. They are two mutually exclusive objects.

As for Iorio's paper, it is available in full here as a download:

[link to arxiv.org]


PXers always deliberately confuse evidence - it is one of their standard techniques. They take evidence of one thing and then twist or spin it to make it seem like it is supporting exactly what they want to believe. Happens all the time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 796235

I never said that Planet X was defined as Nancy defined it . . . I was making a general comment to a general question . . . I was not ruling out the possibility that some legit research was being done on planetary bodies someone might call Planet X. I was aware of the theories regarding the gravitational effects of the outer planets and had read of the discussion in a recent press release . . .or what I thought was a recent release.
If I am not mistaken Nancy does wind a tale somehow that the dead sun (dwarf Star) of hers is in her mix . . . I never understood her description of Nibiru, its interaction with its star, etc. How a planet could stop in orbit with its moons and not burn up with the temperatures that close to the sun, etc. With or with out her dust cloud.
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Issue Sponsor: George B. background: Biology, Medicine, Law


You have a background in biology, consider the following from Nancy's site and the application, quite simply would the following concept work.


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Methods of birth control from the Troubled Times survival guide...

Plug and Play

From the Aboriginals of Australia comes this method which is crude, but effective. It requires some primitive surgery. A hole is made in the base of the male penis, into which a wooden plug can be inserted. During intercourse this plug is removed, enabling ejaculation to take place through the hole in the base of the penis. When conception is desired, the plug is left in place. Not exactly an attractive solution, but desperate situations do require desperate measures.
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If it worked at all I don't think it would be totally reliable and the rate of repeated infection would be very high. Theoretically it only takes one very lucky residual sperm to do the trick.

I can say I have never heard of this method before, except I found in Nancy's Windmills through a search: [link to www.zetatalk.com]

However, sex organ mutilation (which the above is) is not uncommon throughout the world . . . including circumcision for men and women. These practices are usually related to “Coming of Age rituals” and are seldom if ever related to any thought of contraception. Some have argued that circumcision reduces the rate of infection and the possibility of cervical cancer, etc. I am making these comments from memory and have not done a literature research except on Australia. Some evidence might be found within the Human Area Relations File [link to www.yale.edu]
MAJOR BENEFITS (Male Circumcision)
1. Prevents urinary tract infections throughout life, most importantly in infancy
2. Prevents HIV/AIDS infection and other sexually transmitted diseases (STDs)
3. Prevent cervical cancer in female partners of uncircumcised men
4. Prevents cancer of the penis
5. Prevents infected/unretractable foreskin and penile skin disease
6. Promotes Lifetime ease of cleanliness
7. Women's sexual preference
8. Overall medical summary statement. Medicial proof of circumcision benefits.
[link to www.medicirc.org]

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Nancy has called up the reserves to try and recover from what has been a pretty bad week for her. First her Saturday chat got disrupted with silly off topic banter, and this week the debunkers have scored big, handing Max his ass over and over again. Nancy almost never comes back twice during the week to post and completely exposing the stupidity of her "lost south pole" nonsense. I guess we should be alert tonight in case she actually does ban people for posting on this thread during her chat. We couldn't get to the bottom of it last week, but this week we will be watching. Someone is running scared, and it isn't the debunkers. LOL.
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Amongst George B's 'friends' are andrew and Candace, which I think gives some indication of his allegiance.
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Funny you didn't mention that DrPostman was also on my list. I guess that doesn't seem important enough to mention.
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Just put this latest Zetas RIGHT Again in the ZetaTalk Accuracy section.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Along with recent additions of Moon Plume (they were right the Moon bomb thing would not go off as NASA hoped)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Shroud of Turin (they were right it was faked)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Swine Flu (they were right stating right off it was an engineered virus)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Air Force One Flyover (they stated in the chats Obama was unaware and it was done to embarrass Obama)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Imploding Buildings prediction coming true.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Just a sample of recent Zetas RIGHT Again.
_________________________________________________________

Moon Bomb.
Do experiments always go as hoped by PR? Sometimes they exceed expectations, sometimes they fall short, other times the result is something not anticipated and opens up new avenues of research and discovery. The only people that claim the experiment was a bust are the Zetas and people in the general public that wanted a spectacular show and didn't get one. I fail to see how this is worthy of "Zetas Right".

Shroud of Turin.
So the Zetas agree with most of the scientists out there that the shroud is fake. The only people that have consistently defended its authenticity were people with Catholic beliefs, people that wanted to believe it was the shroud Jesus was wrapped in. Ho Hum. News flash. Lots of people wrote it was a fake long before ZetaTalk, so we have nothing unique here.

Swine Flu
The article referenced at the Zeta Talk link says the following:
"The World Health Organization is investigating a claim by an Australian researcher that the swine flu virus circling the globe may have been created as a result of human error. Adrian Gibbs, 75, who collaborated on research that led to the development of Roche Holding AG's Tamiflu drug, said in an interview that he intends to publish a report suggesting the new strain may have accidentally evolved in eggs scientists use to grow viruses and drugmakers use to make vaccines." It is quite a stretch to suggest this is proof of an "engineered" virus. Keep trying Nancy, and I really do hope you are right about no pandemic as flu season kicks off.

Air Force One Fly over
Nowhere does your own compilation of who said and did what suggest that they were trying deliberately to embarrass the president. Quote from ZetaTalk link: "When asked why he failed to do so, he did not offer a coherent explanation. He stated that it was not a conscious decision - he did not intend not to notify them," it said. "Instead, he suggested that it may have been an oversight.""

Imploding buildings
Lame Lame Lame. Just as lame as the imploding bridges, all one of them. Wow you really went out on a limb to predict buildings will collapse. Of course they do, all the time, but there is absolutely no evidence that this is happening more frequently, much less that it is caused by an imaginary planet.

As always, Nancy's prediction accuracy track record is zero.
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Nancy has called up the reserves to try and recover from what has been a pretty bad week for her. First her Saturday chat got disrupted with silly off topic banter, and this week the debunkers have scored big, handing Max his ass over and over again. Nancy almost never comes back twice during the week to post and completely exposing the stupidity of her "lost south pole" nonsense. I guess we should be alert tonight in case she actually does ban people for posting on this thread during her chat. We couldn't get to the bottom of it last week, but this week we will be watching. Someone is running scared, and it isn't the debunkers. LOL.
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Yes KeepingItReal, good to hear you are in for tonight ... we will see how it goes.

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Just put this latest Zetas RIGHT Again in the ZetaTalk Accuracy section.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Along with recent additions of Moon Plume (they were right the Moon bomb thing would not go off as NASA hoped)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Shroud of Turin (they were right it was faked)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Swine Flu (they were right stating right off it was an engineered virus)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Air Force One Flyover (they stated in the chats Obama was unaware and it was done to embarrass Obama)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Imploding Buildings prediction coming true.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Just a sample of recent Zetas RIGHT Again.
_________________________________________________________

Moon Bomb.
Do experiments always go as hoped by PR? Sometimes they exceed expectations, sometimes they fall short, other times the result is something not anticipated and opens up new avenues of research and discovery. The only people that claim the experiment was a bust are the Zetas and people in the general public that wanted a spectacular show and didn't get one. I fail to see how this is worthy of "Zetas Right".

Shroud of Turin.
So the Zetas agree with most of the scientists out there that the shroud is fake. The only people that have consistently defended its authenticity were people with Catholic beliefs, people that wanted to believe it was the shroud Jesus was wrapped in. Ho Hum. News flash. Lots of people wrote it was a fake long before ZetaTalk, so we have nothing unique here.

Swine Flu
The article referenced at the Zeta Talk link says the following:
"The World Health Organization is investigating a claim by an Australian researcher that the swine flu virus circling the globe may have been created as a result of human error. Adrian Gibbs, 75, who collaborated on research that led to the development of Roche Holding AG's Tamiflu drug, said in an interview that he intends to publish a report suggesting the new strain may have accidentally evolved in eggs scientists use to grow viruses and drugmakers use to make vaccines." It is quite a stretch to suggest this is proof of an "engineered" virus. Keep trying Nancy, and I really do hope you are right about no pandemic as flu season kicks off.

Air Force One Fly over
Nowhere does your own compilation of who said and did what suggest that they were trying deliberately to embarrass the president. Quote from ZetaTalk link: "When asked why he failed to do so, he did not offer a coherent explanation. He stated that it was not a conscious decision - he did not intend not to notify them," it said. "Instead, he suggested that it may have been an oversight.""

Imploding buildings
Lame Lame Lame. Just as lame as the imploding bridges, all one of them. Wow you really went out on a limb to predict buildings will collapse. Of course they do, all the time, but there is absolutely no evidence that this is happening more frequently, much less that it is caused by an imaginary planet.

As always, Nancy's prediction accuracy track record is zero.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal





It looks as though you'll believe anything the government throws at ya ... any and every government explanation of unknown things.

And you think people listening to Nancy are gullible? Jees man, you should read what YOU write.
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Just put this latest Zetas RIGHT Again in the ZetaTalk Accuracy section.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Along with recent additions of Moon Plume (they were right the Moon bomb thing would not go off as NASA hoped)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Shroud of Turin (they were right it was faked)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Swine Flu (they were right stating right off it was an engineered virus)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Air Force One Flyover (they stated in the chats Obama was unaware and it was done to embarrass Obama)
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
Imploding Buildings prediction coming true.
[link to www.zetatalk.com]

Just a sample of recent Zetas RIGHT Again.
_________________________________________________________

Moon Bomb.
Do experiments always go as hoped by PR? Sometimes they exceed expectations, sometimes they fall short, other times the result is something not anticipated and opens up new avenues of research and discovery. The only people that claim the experiment was a bust are the Zetas and people in the general public that wanted a spectacular show and didn't get one. I fail to see how this is worthy of "Zetas Right".

Shroud of Turin.
So the Zetas agree with most of the scientists out there that the shroud is fake. The only people that have consistently defended its authenticity were people with Catholic beliefs, people that wanted to believe it was the shroud Jesus was wrapped in. Ho Hum. News flash. Lots of people wrote it was a fake long before ZetaTalk, so we have nothing unique here.

Swine Flu
The article referenced at the Zeta Talk link says the following:
"The World Health Organization is investigating a claim by an Australian researcher that the swine flu virus circling the globe may have been created as a result of human error. Adrian Gibbs, 75, who collaborated on research that led to the development of Roche Holding AG's Tamiflu drug, said in an interview that he intends to publish a report suggesting the new strain may have accidentally evolved in eggs scientists use to grow viruses and drugmakers use to make vaccines." It is quite a stretch to suggest this is proof of an "engineered" virus. Keep trying Nancy, and I really do hope you are right about no pandemic as flu season kicks off.

Air Force One Fly over
Nowhere does your own compilation of who said and did what suggest that they were trying deliberately to embarrass the president. Quote from ZetaTalk link: "When asked why he failed to do so, he did not offer a coherent explanation. He stated that it was not a conscious decision - he did not intend not to notify them," it said. "Instead, he suggested that it may have been an oversight.""

Imploding buildings
Lame Lame Lame. Just as lame as the imploding bridges, all one of them. Wow you really went out on a limb to predict buildings will collapse. Of course they do, all the time, but there is absolutely no evidence that this is happening more frequently, much less that it is caused by an imaginary planet.

As always, Nancy's prediction accuracy track record is zero.





It looks as though you'll believe anything the government throws at ya ... any and every government explanation of unknown things.

And you think people listening to Nancy are gullible? Jees man, you should read what YOU write.
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Hey Luser, all I did was use the same words Nancy posted at the links she herself provided. Her own words debunk her. How does this show that I believe the government explanation? Boy are you ever gullible. You should actually read what Nancy writes before you put words in my mouth.
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And you think people listening to Nancy are gullible? Jees man, you should read what YOU write.
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Then prove that people believing Nancy are not gulible by taking part in a constructive discussion !? If Planet X the way Nancy describes it could be proven, I will be the first to rest my case.
If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

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The bomb is to dig a cavern that will presumably protect the elite in their erected structures from debris in the tail of Planet X. How will all this fare, in the short time between now and the pole shift? Poorly, but the details of their failure is something we prefer to withhold, less they learn from our warnings. True karma is prevailing on Earth, with the elite not faring any better than the common man.

We stated when asked about this mission earlier, that the mission would not go as expected, not be a success for the elite who hope to go to the Moon to avoid the pole shift on Earth, returning after the shift. If we can push the erratic Moon into place so that eclipses seem to be happening as expected, we can certainly nudge a tiny probe to hit rock rather than dust. And this is what was done, with the permission of the Council of Worlds. The elite had hoped to get public funding into NASA to continue the plan to put man back on the Moon in a permanent base, which now is a dashed hope. The elite may have their own funds, but wanted the expertise at NASA to do the work for them, as they do not want to be seen as reacting to all the pole shift warnings. Now they must fund this themselves, and anticipate potential interference from the Council of Worlds. We warned the elite: inform the public about what is coming or suffer the same fate as the common man, stuck on the surface of Earth. The Moon plumb failure is just an explanation point on the end of this statement.
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First of all, the NASA did not "bomb" the moon ... it was just a projectile, a piece of a rocket, basically some piece metal ... no active explosion ....
They did this to dig a cavern to hide in ? If that was the reason, the elite would not do it in the open, the caverns would long have been ready ... and why should they dig caverns on the moon ... more logical would be to do it on earth ... moon has no atmosphere were much of the debris of the tail of PX would get burned and molten like it would happen on earth because of the atmosphere ... so if the PX scenario was real, caverns on earth would be better IMO. Also, as Nancy says PX is due before 2012 it would be a bit late for the elite to build something on the moon now, this should/would have taken place much earlier.

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[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]



You can't believe NASA. Except when you CAN believe NASA, I guess. :)
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Very good point ... if it seems (!) to fit the bunkers theory, NASA can be trusted ... if not, NASA does cover up.
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