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The Man from Planet X (1951)

To study a rogue planet heading for a near-miss with Earth, Prof. Elliot sets up an observatory on the foggy moors of a remote Scottish island, with his pretty daughter and Dr. Mears, a former student with a shady past. Soon after arrival of reporter John Lawrence, a ship from Planet X just happens to land near the observatory. Is the visitor (who actually looks alien) benevolent? What are Mears' real motives for trying to communicate with it? Written by Rod Crawford {puffinus@u.washington.edu}

A New York City newspaper reporter flies to a remote island off Scotland, on an invitation from a scientist who is a long-time friend, to cover the news of the approach to earth of a previously-unknown planet, which the scientist has called Planet X. While awaiting the calculated date of it closest approach to Earth, they discover a torpedo-shaped craft in which an agent of Planet X, peacefully disposed, has landed to make preparations for further landings of X-people when the planet reaches its closest proximity to Earth. The scientist's assistant crosses up the friendly visitor, who depends on a tank of X-atmosphere for survival. The Man from Planet X, using a mesmeric ray, captures the scientist, his daughter, the assistant and several townspeople. The reporter calls Scotland Yard. Sherrill Corwin, a distributor, gave this film a test-run at the San Francisco Paramount on March 9, 1951 (after screening it in Hollywood for the trade-paper reviewers on March 8) before buying the distribution rights from Aubrey Wisberg and Jack Pollexfen's Mid-Century Pictures production company. Written by Les Adams {longhorn1939@suddenlink.net}
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These ols SciFi are so funny, just as Nancy Lieder is.
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Sounds like Nancy is having flashbacks from her youth. This movie also predated the Betty Hill story, and is one of the first instances of planet x in pop culture. Notice how the alien in the trailer resembles the description Nancy gives of her Zetas.
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Its well possible that she got ideas from this stuff when she was watching it as a child.
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So, Blackcrow, what percentage of the atmosphere do you think is ripped away? 10%? 20%? Do you know how it would affect the entire atmosphere if that happened? No? You don't check into things like that? You just believe whatever Nancy tells you?
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Bro you know that you are wasting your time asking those bunker idiots any real questions. The last sentence of your posting is absolutely on target.

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So, Blackcrow, what percentage of the atmosphere do you think is ripped away? 10%? 20%? Do you know how it would affect the entire atmosphere if that happened? No? You don't check into things like that? You just believe whatever Nancy tells you?


Bro you know that you are wasting your time asking those bunker idiots any real questions. The last sentence of your posting is absolutely on target.

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I think it's fundamentally impossible to have a rational debate with an irrational mind. Until they learn how to think logically there is no point in engaging with Zetadrones.
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Sounds like Nancy is having flashbacks from her youth. This movie also predated the Betty Hill story, and is one of the first instances of planet x in pop culture. Notice how the alien in the trailer resembles the description Nancy gives of her Zetas.
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KIR, I reckon that you are so on to it with this. Some of Nancy's believers have stated in the past...."well how could she come up with all this information that she SOZT....EOZT's by herself?"

Well now that's the real kicker, as they say, because once a person objectively goes through the information and message of zetatalk, it is easy to verify that Ms LIEDer has basically two types of information contained within zetatalk.....that which is plagiarized and that which is utter and total billshit .

And that is where the faith and belief in Nancy for her followers plays a huge part of being a member of her zetacult.

It is an understatement to say that only the gullible among us are able to follow and believe in zetatalk while totally ignoring real truth and proven logic. This is especially true in regards to the bunkers inability to address the nonsensical astronomical and scientific aspects of zetatalk.
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I think it's fundamentally impossible to have a rational debate with an irrational mind. Until they learn how to think logically there is no point in engaging with Zetadrones.
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Yes it is a futile and pointless exercise.
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It is an understatement to say that only the gullible among us are able to follow and believe in zetatalk while totally ignoring real truth and proven logic. This is especially true in regards to the bunkers inability to address the nonsensical astronomical and scientific aspects of zetatalk.
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


A manic delusional mind is a VERY powerful thing. It can produce enormous quantities of crap, and recycled bullshit.
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A manic delusional mind is a VERY powerful thing. It can produce enormous quantities of crap, and recycled bullshit.
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And boy does Nancy have plenty of that to go around!!!!!!

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A manic delusional mind is a VERY powerful thing. It can produce enormous quantities of crap, and recycled bullshit.


And boy does Nancy have plenty of that to go around!!!!!!

:lol4me:
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She has dedicated her life to it.
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KIR, I reckon that you are so on to it with this. Some of Nancy's believers have stated in the past...."well how could she come up with all this information that she SOZT....EOZT's by herself?"

Well now that's the real kicker, as they say, because once a person objectively goes through the information and message of zetatalk, it is easy to verify that Ms LIEDer has basically two types of information contained within zetatalk.....that which is plagiarized and that which is utter and total billshit .

 Quoting: The Lone Ranger

I have noticed that a lot of these internet cults draw on a mixture of things, and often include movies or TV shows as their main theme, as if they are not fiction.

Look at Candace for example. Her cult is a mix of the movie 2010 and the Ashtar Command. Both have been around since the 70s. The line between fiction, fraud and reality have become so blurred that she believes it when she says that Jupiter has ignited and that she hangs out with Jesus on the mothership of the starfleet.

Nancy similarly seems to have taken elements from some classic B movies from the 50s and 60s, merged it with some elements from Edgar Cayce, Betty Hill and a hodge podge of nonsense from Crystal Links to come up with ZetaTalk.

It is interesting that before aliens entered pop culture, there are virtually no reports of people claiming to have been abducted by aliens. I don't doubt that people have encounters with energies and entities but I do doubt their interpretation of what they have experienced. I strongly believe that people's perception and subsequent descriptions of those encounters are drawn from familiar elements of pop culture.
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KIR, I reckon that you are so on to it with this. Some of Nancy's believers have stated in the past...."well how could she come up with all this information that she SOZT....EOZT's by herself?"

Well now that's the real kicker, as they say, because once a person objectively goes through the information and message of zetatalk, it is easy to verify that Ms LIEDer has basically two types of information contained within zetatalk.....that which is plagiarized and that which is utter and total billshit .


I have noticed that a lot of these internet cults draw on a mixture of things, and often include movies or TV shows as their main theme, as if they are not fiction.

Look at Candace for example. Her cult is a mix of the movie 2010 and the Ashtar Command. Both have been around since the 70s. The line between fiction, fraud and reality have become so blurred that she believes it when she says that Jupiter has ignited and that she hangs out with Jesus on the mothership of the starfleet.

Nancy similarly seems to have taken elements from some classic B movies from the 50s and 60s, merged it with some elements from Edgar Cayce, Betty Hill and a hodge podge of nonsense from Crystal Links to come up with ZetaTalk.

It is interesting that before aliens entered pop culture, there are virtually no reports of people claiming to have been abducted by aliens. I don't doubt that people have encounters with energies and entities but I do doubt their interpretation of what they have experienced. I strongly believe that people's perception and subsequent descriptions of those encounters are drawn from familiar elements of pop culture.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

"Healer Boi" *claims* to be knowledgable in native traditions, cultures, mysticism and practice. His "claim" to be a healer also asserts that he his not merely knowledgable, but in fact a true -subscriber- to these bodies of knowledge.

Yet, he rigidly and staunchly supports the establishment status quo with revealing statements like this:

>> "I strongly believe that people's perception and subsequent descriptions of those encounters are drawn from familiar elements of pop culture."

... essentially contradicting himself and denying the reality of mystical experience and betraying his native and cultural roots. For native traditions are over-flowing with tales of "visitors", and for him to so abashedly affirm "establishment" LIES is astounding to say the least.

Unless of course, he's LYING about being a "healer".

Good show KIR, you wear your HYPOCRISY well!!!

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 11/01/2009 08:45 AM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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"Healer Boi" *claims* to be knowledgable in native traditions, cultures, mysticism and practice. His "claim" to be a healer also asserts that he his not merely knowledgable, but in fact a true -subscriber- to these bodies of knowledge.

Yet, he rigidly and staunchly supports the establishment status quo with revealing statements like this:

>> "I strongly believe that people's perception and subsequent descriptions of those encounters are drawn from familiar elements of pop culture."

... essentially contradicting himself and denying the reality of mystical experience and betraying his native and cultural roots. For native traditions are over-flowing with tales of "visitors", and for him to so abashedly affirm "establishment" LIES is astounding to say the least.

Unless of course, he's LYING about being a "healer".

Good show KIR, you wear your HYPOCRISY well!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


You're just smarting because he has so successfully deconstructed Nancy's bullshit!

You believe crap. Nancy is peddling recycled garbage. You do not have sufficient discrimination to work it out.
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"Healer Boi" *claims* to be knowledgable in native traditions, cultures, mysticism and practice. His "claim" to be a healer also asserts that he his not merely knowledgable, but in fact a true -subscriber- to these bodies of knowledge.

Yet, he rigidly and staunchly supports the establishment status quo with revealing statements like this:

>> "I strongly believe that people's perception and subsequent descriptions of those encounters are drawn from familiar elements of pop culture."

... essentially contradicting himself and denying the reality of mystical experience and betraying his native and cultural roots. For native traditions are over-flowing with tales of "visitors", and for him to so abashedly affirm "establishment" LIES is astounding to say the least.

Unless of course, he's LYING about being a "healer".

Good show KIR, you wear your HYPOCRISY well!!!


You're just smarting because he has so successfully deconstructed Nancy's bullshit!

You believe crap. Nancy is peddling recycled garbage. You do not have sufficient discrimination to work it out.
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It's clear the debunkers are becoming QUITE DESPERATE as of late!

awesome

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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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"Healer Boi" *claims* to be knowledgable in native traditions, cultures, mysticism and practice. His "claim" to be a healer also asserts that he his not merely knowledgable, but in fact a true -subscriber- to these bodies of knowledge.

Yet, he rigidly and staunchly supports the establishment status quo with revealing statements like this:

>> "I strongly believe that people's perception and subsequent descriptions of those encounters are drawn from familiar elements of pop culture."

... essentially contradicting himself and denying the reality of mystical experience and betraying his native and cultural roots. For native traditions are over-flowing with tales of "visitors", and for him to so abashedly affirm "establishment" LIES is astounding to say the least.

Unless of course, he's LYING about being a "healer".

Good show KIR, you wear your HYPOCRISY well!!!


You're just smarting because he has so successfully deconstructed Nancy's bullshit!

You believe crap. Nancy is peddling recycled garbage. You do not have sufficient discrimination to work it out.


It's clear the debunkers are becoming QUITE DESPERATE as of late!


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Desperate? You're the one that is desperate yard sitter.
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There is a mountain of text on the Zeta-Talk threads and website, so if someone would be so kind as to answer this the best they can, it would be be appreciated.

Nancy claims to be channeling an alien. Has anyone met Nancy? Does SHE believe she is actually channeling?

Some of her advice was bad/malevolent, with the whole puppy heaven thing. Once, she failed to multiply two numbers together on a talk show, so her alien can't do simple math with a calculator.

Just to throw this out there...could she actually be channeling a demon or some other destructive entity, instead of just being full of shit?
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There is a mountain of text on the Zeta-Talk threads and website, so if someone would be so kind as to answer this the best they can, it would be be appreciated.

Nancy claims to be channeling an alien. Has anyone met Nancy? Does SHE believe she is actually channeling?

Some of her advice was bad/malevolent, with the whole puppy heaven thing. Once, she failed to multiply two numbers together on a talk show, so her alien can't do simple math with a calculator.

Just to throw this out there...could she actually be channeling a demon or some other destructive entity, instead of just being full of shit?
 Quoting: DanfromtheHills


Here's a couple statements made by two of her followers. I'll leave it up to you to discern if she's being led by lying spirits. Personally I'd say she fits the description of a demonic channeler.

From: "Clipper Ordiway" <clip642@m...
Date: Wed Jan 10, 2001 9:42 pm
Subject: RE: [tt-social] Digest Number 236

I too can add to that. I also spent five days at Nancy's house and spent
time with Ron Darby as well. They are real people. And yes, you can feal the
presence of her friends.
I like what Fransisco wrote:
" The problem I see here (and I'm hopping I'm not missguiding anybody), is
that this information just sounds wright. Yes, I know there is a
difference between you telling me that a circle is round, and me seeing
the circle for myself, but as humans we also believe in hunches, sixth
sense, or whatever, which most of the time proves to be wright."

Clipper





From: Roger Thuma <rthum@k...
Date: Wed Jan 10, 2001 7:47 pm
Subject: Re: [tt-social] Digest Number 236

I, too, have personally met Nancy and felt the presence of her friends. I
spent a week in her presence and find the message to be totally without
deception or credulity.

Roger


It's obvious to me that what ever the zetas are (or if they even exist outside of Nancy's mind) they are liers and deceivers. Like all classic cults, zetatalk certainly fits the bill of "new age cult."
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We see the planning af "White Lie 2" right now:


HI. Q:
I understand that the Puppet master crew and the Zetas worked together to prevent election fraud in 2008. That said I presume the Puppet master is very well aware of the devastation that will take place during and after the PS, and of the transition in the following 100 years; where virtually all full blooded humans will be extinct. With that knowledge, what are presently his motivations, and his outlook on the loss of his wealth, power and descendants to pass that on to?

Thank you!

SOZT
Where the Puppet Master, and most intelligent members of the establishment, take ZetaTalk very seriously, they do not necessarily presume it to be the outcome. Human scientists have many different opinions, and it is under heated debate. Perhaps the passage will be mild, barely causing earthquakes or high tides, for instance. Even with the geological record showing the devastation from past passages, some passages appear to be mild. The last passage, during the time of the Jewish Exodus, was mild, for instance.
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It's bizarre that Nancy, at one time, claimed that when PX came between Earth and Sun, that a poleshift was triggered. Now, she has PX in that position for years on end, but it doesn't have that effect. I'm not clear on that part of her current story as to what position PX has to be in relation to Earth and Sun to trigger the poleshift. It's totally vague now as far as I know.
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>> "I strongly believe that people's perception and subsequent descriptions of those encounters are drawn from familiar elements of pop culture."

... essentially contradicting himself and denying the reality of mystical experience and betraying his native and cultural roots. For native traditions are over-flowing with tales of "visitors", and for him to so abashedly affirm "establishment" LIES is astounding to say the least.

Unless of course, he's LYING about being a "healer".

Good show KIR, you wear your HYPOCRISY well!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Well funny enough it is something I learned about what we experience as "visitations" from unknown entities. I can assure you that encounters do occur, but they are not what we think. Our human brain strives to explain anything that is not familiar to us. It tries to fit it into categories that we understand, no matter how bizarre. I don't deny the visitors. I just have learned to see past the descriptions and go to the source. Honestly, from my experience, what we call aliens, angels, spirit guides, ghosts, demons, fairies, leprechauns are very real, they just aren't what we think they are.

You can believe what you wish about me. I really don't care because I have no need to brag or reaffirm myself.
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There is a mountain of text on the Zeta-Talk threads and website, so if someone would be so kind as to answer this the best they can, it would be be appreciated.

Nancy claims to be channeling an alien. Has anyone met Nancy? Does SHE believe she is actually channeling?

Some of her advice was bad/malevolent, with the whole puppy heaven thing. Once, she failed to multiply two numbers together on a talk show, so her alien can't do simple math with a calculator.

Just to throw this out there...could she actually be channeling a demon or some other destructive entity, instead of just being full of shit?


Here's a couple statements made by two of her followers. I'll leave it up to you to discern if she's being led by lying spirits. Personally I'd say she fits the description of a demonic channeler.

From: "Clipper Ordiway" <clip642@m...
Date: Wed Jan 10, 2001 9:42 pm
Subject: RE: [tt-social] Digest Number 236

I too can add to that. I also spent five days at Nancy's house and spent
time with Ron Darby as well. They are real people. And yes, you can feal the
presence of her friends.
I like what Fransisco wrote:
" The problem I see here (and I'm hopping I'm not missguiding anybody), is
that this information just sounds wright. Yes, I know there is a
difference between you telling me that a circle is round, and me seeing
the circle for myself, but as humans we also believe in hunches, sixth
sense, or whatever, which most of the time proves to be wright."

Clipper





From: Roger Thuma <rthum@k...
Date: Wed Jan 10, 2001 7:47 pm
Subject: Re: [tt-social] Digest Number 236

I, too, have personally met Nancy and felt the presence of her friends. I
spent a week in her presence and find the message to be totally without
deception or credulity.

Roger


It's obvious to me that what ever the zetas are (or if they even exist outside of Nancy's mind) they are liers and deceivers. Like all classic cults, zetatalk certainly fits the bill of "new age cult."
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Thanks, what strange comments. Give me a minute to go over these.
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Here's an interesting link, Dan.

[link to www.skepticalmind.com]
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There is a mountain of text on the Zeta-Talk threads and website, so if someone would be so kind as to answer this the best they can, it would be be appreciated.

Nancy claims to be channeling an alien. Has anyone met Nancy? Does SHE believe she is actually channeling?
 Quoting: DanfromtheHills


No, she claims she is NOT "channelling", but has some other sort of system in place which includes a brain implant.

Some of her advice was bad/malevolent, with the whole puppy heaven thing. Once, she failed to multiply two numbers together on a talk show, so her alien can't do simple math with a calculator.

Just to throw this out there...could she actually be channeling a demon or some other destructive entity, instead of just being full of shit?
 Quoting: DanfromtheHills


I suspect that Nancy *IS* "channelling" and that she is possessed by whatever "Zetas" is.
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I suspect that Nancy *IS* "channelling" and that she is possessed by whatever "Zetas" is.
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My suspicions as well.
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Tater and Menow, without quoting, yes that's what it seems to be for me also. Some sort of delusion/demonic channeling.

Some questions arise though...

Why such a long period of "channeling"?

Has she given any good advice? Any credible predictions?

After 2003, when nibiru had it's first failed appearance, why not "wake up" then if she's not in it for fame and fortune?

Don't mean to lump this on you two alone, anyone else who wants to take a crack at these please do so...
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KIR, I reckon that you are so on to it with this. Some of Nancy's believers have stated in the past...."well how could she come up with all this information that she SOZT....EOZT's by herself?"

Well now that's the real kicker, as they say, because once a person objectively goes through the information and message of zetatalk, it is easy to verify that Ms LIEDer has basically two types of information contained within zetatalk.....that which is plagiarized and that which is utter and total billshit .


I have noticed that a lot of these internet cults draw on a mixture of things, and often include movies or TV shows as their main theme, as if they are not fiction.

Look at Candace for example. Her cult is a mix of the movie 2010 and the Ashtar Command. Both have been around since the 70s. The line between fiction, fraud and reality have become so blurred that she believes it when she says that Jupiter has ignited and that she hangs out with Jesus on the mothership of the starfleet.

Nancy similarly seems to have taken elements from some classic B movies from the 50s and 60s, merged it with some elements from Edgar Cayce, Betty Hill and a hodge podge of nonsense from Crystal Links to come up with ZetaTalk.

It is interesting that before aliens entered pop culture, there are virtually no reports of people claiming to have been abducted by aliens. I don't doubt that people have encounters with energies and entities but I do doubt their interpretation of what they have experienced. I strongly believe that people's perception and subsequent descriptions of those encounters are drawn from familiar elements of pop culture.

"Healer Boi" *claims* to be knowledgable in native traditions, cultures, mysticism and practice. His "claim" to be a healer also asserts that he his not merely knowledgable, but in fact a true -subscriber- to these bodies of knowledge.

Yet, he rigidly and staunchly supports the establishment status quo with revealing statements like this:

>> "I strongly believe that people's perception and subsequent descriptions of those encounters are drawn from familiar elements of pop culture."

... essentially contradicting himself and denying the reality of mystical experience and betraying his native and cultural roots. For native traditions are over-flowing with tales of "visitors", and for him to so abashedly affirm "establishment" LIES is astounding to say the least.

Unless of course, he's LYING about being a "healer".

Good show KIR, you wear your HYPOCRISY well!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***





You've got KIR pegged nicely Max!

This guy is NO healer ... he's a fraud, through and through. His words make that perfectly clear.
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She's on a roll tonight. Anchors away!

Warm Greetings from Southeastern Asia to Nancy and the Zetas. During the Shift, what direction will the wind come from for China?

SOZT
India will be moving toward the region of the current S Pole, toward Antartic, so you can expect your wind to come from the SOUTH.
EOZT
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

India will be moving to the south? Wouldn't that be somewhat dependent on where India was located at the time of the shift and direction of this so called shift?
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Tater and Menow, without quoting, yes that's what it seems to be for me also. Some sort of delusion/demonic channeling.

Some questions arise though...

Why such a long period of "channeling"?
 Quoting: DanfromtheHills


I don't understand the question.

Has she given any good advice? Any credible predictions?
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Advice? That is up for the individual to decide. Predictions? No.

After 2003, when nibiru had it's first failed appearance, why not "wake up" then if she's not in it for fame and fortune?
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Because it is her life. It's all she has. She is obsessed and possessed.

Don't mean to lump this on you two alone, anyone else who wants to take a crack at these please do so...
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Most others,afaik, seem to think that "channelling" is always being faked by the channel.
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She's on a roll tonight. Anchors away!

Warm Greetings from Southeastern Asia to Nancy and the Zetas. During the Shift, what direction will the wind come from for China?

SOZT
India will be moving toward the region of the current S Pole, toward Antartic, so you can expect your wind to come from the SOUTH.
EOZT

India will be moving to the south? Wouldn't that be somewhat dependent on where India was located at the time of the shift and direction of this so called shift?
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And how could that make the prevailing winds come from the south? Apparently Nancy doesn't know what prevailing winds means.
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As we have stated, the N American continent is in a bow, pulling the tip of the Aleutian Islands toward the tip of Mexico. This is causing stress in San Diego and LA, where water main breaks have become an unending problem. This is also causing adjustments in the rock layers all up and down the West Coast, and inland. These incidences are indeed all related, and will get much worse before any significant adjustments in the rock are made by quakes.
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Wrong.
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Situated atop three of the large tectonic plates that constitute the earth's surface, Mexico is one of the most seismologically active regions on earth. The motion of these plates causes earthquakes and volcanic activity.

Most of the Mexican landmass rests on the westward moving North American plate. The Pacific Ocean floor off southern Mexico, however, is being carried northeast by the underlying motion of the Cocos plate. Ocean floor material is relatively dense; when it strikes the lighter granite of the Mexican landmass, the ocean floor is forced under the landmass, creating the deep Middle American trench that lies off Mexico's southern coast. The westward moving land atop the North American plate is slowed and crumpled where it meets the Cocos plate, creating the mountain ranges of southern Mexico. The subduction of the Cocos plate accounts for the frequency of earthquakes near Mexico's southern coast. As the rocks constituting the ocean floor are forced down, they melt, and the molten material is forced up through weaknesses in the surface rock, creating the volcanoes in the Cordillera Neovolcánica across central Mexico.

 Quoting: KeepingItReal

LOL!! If there's so much stress in San Diego and Los Angeles, why have there not been any major earthquakes there in the past 10 years? The fault zones in San Diego don't support earthquakes of anything larger than about a 6.0 with the largest fault being the Rose Canyon fault running off the coast and then cutting inland just a bit near La Jolla and running along Interstate 5. This is why there has never been a significant earthquake in San Diego within recorded history.

BTW, Nancy...the reason for so many water main breaks in San Diego is because a vast majority of the mains in San Diego are over 60 years old and are made up of iron pipes that *gasp* corrode over time. OMG!!
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With Planet X moving closer, the magnetosphere acting up and more debris Can we also expect problems with petro chemicals forming and catching fire above certain volcanos before the shift or is this only a problem that occurs during the pole shift itself?

SOZT
This will only occur during the pole shift itself. Firestorms require that the atmosphere be ripped away, so these petrochemicals in the tail cross over volcanoes at close range. This situation does not develop until the hour of the pole shift.
EOZT


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 Quoting: KeepingItReal

LOL!! Firestorms also require an element or gas we call OXYGEN. If the atmosphere is ripped away, one of the key components needed to keep a fire going is removed...hence, no fire.
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It's clear the debunkers are becoming QUITE DESPERATE as of late!
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