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Soledad --

I just stifled a small yawn -- are you happy now?
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No - to be precise, it is an "unfounded accusation" for which there is some anecdotal and circumstantial evidence, but nothing more. To be a "lie", I have to KNOW that debunkers on this thread are in fact "not paid" - and I do not "KNOW" that. Therefore, it is NOT A LIE to accuse the debunkers of being paid shills. However, if they say they are "not", when in fact they are, then THAT would indeed be a "LIE".


Well spoken, ZetaMax! It no doubt drives these PX hecklers crazy that your logic is so consistently impeccable.

P.S. Watch the immediate, visceral reaction to my daring to post on this hallowed thread.
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Quite the contrary. Your posting keeps this thread on the front page. Keep it up!
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No - to be precise, it is an "unfounded accusation" for which there is some anecdotal and circumstantial evidence, but nothing more. To be a "lie", I have to KNOW that debunkers on this thread are in fact "not paid" - and I do not "KNOW" that. Therefore, it is NOT A LIE to accuse the debunkers of being paid shills. However, if they say they are "not", when in fact they are, then THAT would indeed be a "LIE".


Well spoken, ZetaMax! It no doubt drives these PX hecklers crazy that your logic is so consistently impeccable.

P.S. Watch the immediate, visceral reaction to my daring to post on this hallowed thread.
afro


Quite the contrary. Your posting keeps this thread on the front page. Keep it up!
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LOL, these guys are suckers for reverse psychology!!!
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It's sad that the Zidiots are reduced to trolling the debunker threads just to get any responses at all.

Must be tough being the last few of Nancy's faithful.

But that's the way of the universe -- the prizes for being Most Stupid Wankers in the room are generally not that great.
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No - to be precise, it is an "unfounded accusation" for which there is some anecdotal and circumstantial evidence, but nothing more. To be a "lie", I have to KNOW that debunkers on this thread are in fact "not paid" - and I do not "KNOW" that. Therefore, it is NOT A LIE to accuse the debunkers of being paid shills. However, if they say they are "not", when in fact they are, then THAT would indeed be a "LIE".


Well spoken, ZetaMax! It no doubt drives these PX hecklers crazy that your logic is so consistently impeccable.

P.S. Watch the immediate, visceral reaction to my daring to post on this hallowed thread.
afro
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You have a very tenuous grasp on reality. I, too, stifle a brief yawn.
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As the saying goes - A fool is born every minute.

Cept my mother did not raise one!
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No, your knitted~!
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Funny, that it was YOU Circuit Breaker, that got personal first. Don't like it too much, do you? Idiot!

Wrong as usual. But when was the last time I took it to a personal level with Free Store? When did I ever take it personal with you?


You and yours continue to bring up FreeStore and your tripe about suicide ... maybe you will think twice next time.

Look dumb fuck, if he didn't want anyone to bring it up...he should never have made the threat here on GLP. My god, you really are stupid. It was the debunkers who told him not to do it....I didn't see you posting anywhere telling him not to. How STO of you....dipshit.


KeepingItReal ... such a tough guy???? Laugh! You wouldn't last 30 seconds ///

No, because you'd be falling soon than that.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker





Wrong as usual???

Then what is this ... "Much like you're a fraud claiming to own two successful businesses. You're also a shill, through and through. Your actions make that perfectly clear.

Now, get back to Nancy's thread where you belong."



You are a fraud and a proven liar Circuit Breaker! Your words, in quotes, are VERY personal. What's wrong with you?

You do this, and you open your life up to personal comments ... it goes both ways IDIOT!

How do you like them apples? You wanna play rough ... then prepare to get dirty. You seem to lie at the drop of a hat ... it seems like it's part of who you are. And then claiming innocence ... that;s RICH!
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You are a fraud and a proven liar Circuit Breaker! Your words, in quotes, are VERY personal. What's wrong with you?

You do this, and you open your life up to personal comments ... it goes both ways IDIOT!

How do you like them apples? You wanna play rough ... then prepare to get dirty. You seem to lie at the drop of a hat ... it seems like it's part of who you are. And then claiming innocence ... that;s RICH!
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Get lost, kid. No one cares one iota about your insane rantings.
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Rumor has it, Luser, that you recently overdosed on erectile dysfunction medications which required that you be hospitalized (but STILL didn't result in an erection).

Too, I hear your children were once detained at the Atlanta Zoo because zoo staff mistook them for escaped howler monkeys. The matter wasn't cleared up until zoo staff were able to observe your offspring for a short time and thus determined that howler monkeys, in addition to being far more intelligent, displayed far better hygiene.

And your wife? Sheesh. Dentists cringe. Horses shy. Dogs bark. But without her and her habit of goping on topless hikes, where would we get all these Bigfoot photos?
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No - to be precise, it is an "unfounded accusation" for which there is some anecdotal and circumstantial evidence, but nothing more. To be a "lie", I have to KNOW that debunkers on this thread are in fact "not paid" - and I do not "KNOW" that. Therefore, it is NOT A LIE to accuse the debunkers of being paid shills. However, if they say they are "not", when in fact they are, then THAT would indeed be a "LIE".
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Look at Max spin!


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Well spoken, ZetaMax! It no doubt drives these PX hecklers crazy that your logic is so consistently impeccable.

P.S. Watch the immediate, visceral reaction to my daring to post on this hallowed thread.
afro
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You mean like the visceral reactions we get from you when questioned on your threads?
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Isn't Max cute when he uses big words?

By the way, Luser, your membership in NAMBLA needs renewing...
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Wrong as usual???
 Quoting: User # 78/68

Yes.

You are a fraud and a proven liar Circuit Breaker! Your words, in quotes, are VERY personal. What's wrong with you?
 Quoting: User # 78/68

Where am I a proven liar? Have you proven that you actually own two businesses? And how is that statement as personal as the attack you made yesterday? What's wrong with you?

You do this, and you open your life up to personal comments ... it goes both ways IDIOT!

How do you like them apples? You wanna play rough ... then prepare to get dirty. You seem to lie at the drop of a hat ... it seems like it's part of who you are. And then claiming innocence ... that;s RICH!
 Quoting: User # 78/68

You know what? Fuck you Loser and the high horse you rode in on. You prove everyday you're nowhere near being STO. You're nothing but a greedy, angry, STS asswipe that gets your thrills attacking people because they don't believe your handler Nancy Lieder. You probably jerk off while looking at our avatars. So, give it your best shot fuckwad.

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By the way, Luser, your membership in NAMBLA needs renewing...
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LOL!! Priceless!
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I imagne Luser does fantasize about being spanked by debunkers. Hell, he comes here to get spanked often enough.

Here is a list of Luser's other favorite fantasies:

* Turkish prisons
* Amorous stallions
* Andrew
* Andrew and ZetaMax and a quart of baby oil
* Andrew and ZetaMax and a quart of baby oil and a jump-rope
* Turkish prisons (he really likes Turkish prisons)
* Being anally probed by Zetas while Barry White plays
* Being anally probed by ZetaMax while Barry white plays over the loudspeakers in a Turkish prison while an amorous stallion looks on


No wonder that boy is always chafed...
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I can see it now...just like an episode of South Park where Stan and Kyle kept claiming Cartman had gotten an anal probe.

User: "God dammit, I didn't have an anal probe! Screw you guys! I'm going home!"
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LOL!

Luser as Cartman -- yeah, I can see that!
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You are a fraud and a proven liar Circuit Breaker! Your words, in quotes, are VERY personal. What's wrong with you?

You do this, and you open your life up to personal comments ... it goes both ways IDIOT!

How do you like them apples? You wanna play rough ... then prepare to get dirty. You seem to lie at the drop of a hat ... it seems like it's part of who you are. And then claiming innocence ... that;s RICH!


Get lost, kid. No one cares one iota about your insane rantings.
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Luserboy has real life mental issues......there can be no other explanation for his years of insane rantings.
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Again, it is hard to not notice that the bunkers desperately want to end all serious discussion of Nancy's latest gaffes. There were several on this week's chat, and Nancy has no defense. Her own words come back to haunt her, like the one about the atmosphere being stripped away. Menow has provided previous quotes on Nancy's thread where Nancy explicitly says the stripping of the atmosphere is major. So much for the bunker's spin about only a "portion" being ripped away.

So many gaffes that are so easily debunked, that the bunkers can only try their best to derail all serious discussion by getting into pissing matches about personal character. What they fail to realize is that anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence can see right through this tactic. They don't address the topic because they can't. Yet they continue to support all things ZetaTalk. They said they wanted us to leave Nancy's threads alone, yet they come here to this thread because the debunkers and even casual readers are doing a good job of showing the flaws in Nancy's claims. They just can't stand that. They have no weapons to defend her, so the best they can do is piss all over the thread.
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I can see it now...just like an episode of South Park where Stan and Kyle kept claiming Cartman had gotten an anal probe.

User: "God dammit, I didn't have an anal probe! Screw you guys! I'm going home!"
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker


lol4me that Eric Cartman cracks me up!!!


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They don't address the topic because they can't. Yet they continue to support all things ZetaTalk.
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That about sums it up doesn't it.

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I imagne Luser does fantasize about being spanked by debunkers. Hell, he comes here to get spanked often enough.

Here is a list of Luser's other favorite fantasies:

* Turkish prisons
* Amorous stallions
* Andrew
* Andrew and ZetaMax and a quart of baby oil
* Andrew and ZetaMax and a quart of baby oil and a jump-rope
* Turkish prisons (he really likes Turkish prisons)
* Being anally probed by Zetas while Barry White plays
* Being anally probed by ZetaMax while Barry white plays over the loudspeakers in a Turkish prison while an amorous stallion looks on


No wonder that boy is always chafed...
 Quoting: Returner 997


lol4me
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Again, it is hard to not notice that the bunkers desperately want to end all serious discussion of Nancy's latest gaffes. There were several on this week's chat, and Nancy has no defense. Her own words come back to haunt her, like the one about the atmosphere being stripped away. Menow has provided previous quotes on Nancy's thread where Nancy explicitly says the stripping of the atmosphere is major. So much for the bunker's spin about only a "portion" being ripped away.

So many gaffes that are so easily debunked, that the bunkers can only try their best to derail all serious discussion by getting into pissing matches about personal character. What they fail to realize is that anyone with the slightest bit of intelligence can see right through this tactic. They don't address the topic because they can't. Yet they continue to support all things ZetaTalk. They said they wanted us to leave Nancy's threads alone, yet they come here to this thread because the debunkers and even casual readers are doing a good job of showing the flaws in Nancy's claims. They just can't stand that. They have no weapons to defend her, so the best they can do is piss all over the thread.
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Nope - the only "pissing" going on is on the part of the debunkers, and they are doing it into the wind!!

piss_win


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Is this STILL going on? And Nancy still has supporters? HOW CAN THEY BE THAT DUMB?
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There is a mountain of text on the Zeta-Talk threads and website, so if someone would be so kind as to answer this the best they can, it would be be appreciated.

Nancy claims to be channeling an alien. Has anyone met Nancy? Does SHE believe she is actually channeling?

Some of her advice was bad/malevolent, with the whole puppy heaven thing. Once, she failed to multiply two numbers together on a talk show, so her alien can't do simple math with a calculator.

Just to throw this out there...could she actually be channeling a demon or some other destructive entity, instead of just being full of shit?
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My take on the source of Nancy's material is that she has been duped by some unhelpful entities.

Whenever you call out for contact with other entities, you are leaving yourself wide open to all sorts of things that most people do not understand, nor can they protect themselves from them.

Everything is energy and consciousness. We are but one form of conscious energy. There are many others. None are more or less advanced than we, they just have different forms and perceive the energy around them so differently as to not be of this world. It is all about how we perceive and define what we see that determines the world we live in and how we see other conscious energetic beings.

There are entities that latch onto other lifeforms. They aren't evil, they only do what is in their nature to do, and they feed off the life energy of organic life forms. The good news is that in most cases, they cannot do this unless invited. That is why it is so silly and dangerous to ask for other entities to contact you. Without realizing it, you are inviting them to feed off your own life essence, and they really have nothing to offer in exchange. You might as well hang a sign that says "Free Lunch" around your neck.

If one were able to see these entities with their eyes, they would look like any number of energetic configurations and tentacles. Once you have experience seeing them without freaking out, you can learn the subtle differences and distinguish the very few that have anything that would be of interest to us. In my experience, it is a pointless exercise to be in contact with them. They can bring much more harm than good, and usually it is not their intention. They are just so removed from our world, and their nature is so different. They complicate things at best, and at worst they can reduce you to a blathering idiot and slowly sap you of your life essence.

These entities surround us yet they are not here. It is hard to explain. Everything that is exists right here and now, but the bands of perception are what prevent us from seeing it all. Likewise, they only perceive us if they choose to. Their world is so alien to ours, as our world is completely alien to them. In that sense, it is correct to call them aliens, but they do not come from other planets.

The world we see is a construct of our mind, interpreting the energies we sense. We learn descriptions and definitions from the time we are born, and as we adopt them and apply them, the world we see solidifies. This is how an energetic configuration becomes a plant or a mountain or a bug. Once we learn to correlate a description with a given energetic configuration, we will always see it according to that description, unless we learn to suspend our inner dictionary. If we learn to do that, we could see the bug as an energetic being, or we could apply a new description and see it as a pterodactyl or anything else of our choosing.

When we encounter energetic configurations, or aware beings that we have no description for, the mind struggles to find one that is familiar within our inventory of definitions and descriptions. This is why people claim to see aliens, angels, demons, elfs, fairies, spirit guides, departed spirits, etc. The visitor is real, but the way we see them is very subjective. We tend to choose the one we feel most comfortable with. It is a natural human response when confronted with the unknown.

Once you have defined a given energetic entity with a description that your mind accepts, you will see it according to that description. If you want an alien, you will see an alien, and the entity will comply and appear as you have defined the perception.

I think this is what Nancy has done. She called out for contact, and attracted entities she did not understand. Faced with the unknown, something she had no description for, she reached into her subconscious inventory and the description that she felt most comfortable with was the Zeta alien. Unfortunately, most of what she is given is totally useless. It is like a worm on a hook to keep her compliant, as they feed off her life force. I also think that on some level she knows her Zetas are yanking her chain, but she has so much invested in ZetaTalk that she can't stop, and invents material which she attributes to a higher source.

One of the main reasons why I speak out regarding Nancy and Zeta Talk is that she encourages people to send out the call. Everything you need to know as a human being is within your own being. You do not need to be enlightened by any other entity outside yourself. My recommendation is that when you feel such presences, just voice out loud that you want them to leave you alone. Much more often than not, they will respect your wish. After all, there is no shortage of organic beings that willingly offer to host them.

Believe me, I have learned this the hard way, and it was the hardest thing in the world to admit it to myself and break off contact. Trust in yourself. You do not need anyone or anything to show you anything.
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Hush, Max.

And stop leading poor Luser on with those hot n' steamy IMs. You know you have no intention of following through with that weekend of anal probes...do you?
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Nope - the only "pissing" going on is on the part of the debunkers, and they are doing it into the wind!!


 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Funny how you overlook all the times that Nancy, User, or even you have pissed into the wind. But that's because you're all on the same team.

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There is a mountain of text on the Zeta-Talk threads and website, so if someone would be so kind as to answer this the best they can, it would be be appreciated.

Nancy claims to be channeling an alien. Has anyone met Nancy? Does SHE believe she is actually channeling?

Some of her advice was bad/malevolent, with the whole puppy heaven thing. Once, she failed to multiply two numbers together on a talk show, so her alien can't do simple math with a calculator.

Just to throw this out there...could she actually be channeling a demon or some other destructive entity, instead of just being full of shit?

My take on the source of Nancy's material is that she has been duped by some unhelpful entities.

Whenever you call out for contact with other entities, you are leaving yourself wide open to all sorts of things that most people do not understand, nor can they protect themselves from them.

Everything is energy and consciousness. We are but one form of conscious energy. There are many others. None are more or less advanced than we, they just have different forms and perceive the energy around them so differently as to not be of this world. It is all about how we perceive and define what we see that determines the world we live in and how we see other conscious energetic beings.

There are entities that latch onto other lifeforms. They aren't evil, they only do what is in their nature to do, and they feed off the life energy of organic life forms. The good news is that in most cases, they cannot do this unless invited. That is why it is so silly and dangerous to ask for other entities to contact you. Without realizing it, you are inviting them to feed off your own life essence, and they really have nothing to offer in exchange. You might as well hang a sign that says "Free Lunch" around your neck.

If one were able to see these entities with their eyes, they would look like any number of energetic configurations and tentacles. Once you have experience seeing them without freaking out, you can learn the subtle differences and distinguish the very few that have anything that would be of interest to us. In my experience, it is a pointless exercise to be in contact with them. They can bring much more harm than good, and usually it is not their intention. They are just so removed from our world, and their nature is so different. They complicate things at best, and at worst they can reduce you to a blathering idiot and slowly sap you of your life essence.

These entities surround us yet they are not here. It is hard to explain. Everything that is exists right here and now, but the bands of perception are what prevent us from seeing it all. Likewise, they only perceive us if they choose to. Their world is so alien to ours, as our world is completely alien to them. In that sense, it is correct to call them aliens, but they do not come from other planets.

The world we see is a construct of our mind, interpreting the energies we sense. We learn descriptions and definitions from the time we are born, and as we adopt them and apply them, the world we see solidifies. This is how an energetic configuration becomes a plant or a mountain or a bug. Once we learn to correlate a description with a given energetic configuration, we will always see it according to that description, unless we learn to suspend our inner dictionary. If we learn to do that, we could see the bug as an energetic being, or we could apply a new description and see it as a pterodactyl or anything else of our choosing.

When we encounter energetic configurations, or aware beings that we have no description for, the mind struggles to find one that is familiar within our inventory of definitions and descriptions. This is why people claim to see aliens, angels, demons, elfs, fairies, spirit guides, departed spirits, etc. The visitor is real, but the way we see them is very subjective. We tend to choose the one we feel most comfortable with. It is a natural human response when confronted with the unknown.

Once you have defined a given energetic entity with a description that your mind accepts, you will see it according to that description. If you want an alien, you will see an alien, and the entity will comply and appear as you have defined the perception.

I think this is what Nancy has done. She called out for contact, and attracted entities she did not understand. Faced with the unknown, something she had no description for, she reached into her subconscious inventory and the description that she felt most comfortable with was the Zeta alien. Unfortunately, most of what she is given is totally useless. It is like a worm on a hook to keep her compliant, as they feed off her life force. I also think that on some level she knows her Zetas are yanking her chain, but she has so much invested in ZetaTalk that she can't stop, and invents material which she attributes to a higher source.

One of the main reasons why I speak out regarding Nancy and Zeta Talk is that she encourages people to send out the call. Everything you need to know as a human being is within your own being. You do not need to be enlightened by any other entity outside yourself. My recommendation is that when you feel such presences, just voice out loud that you want them to leave you alone. Much more often than not, they will respect your wish. After all, there is no shortage of organic beings that willingly offer to host them.

Believe me, I have learned this the hard way, and it was the hardest thing in the world to admit it to myself and break off contact. Trust in yourself. You do not need anyone or anything to show you anything.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal



Man! that is some cool stuff there KIR!

Thanks for sharing that and opening up. And you did so with civility and grace.

I can relate to what you said for sure, man.

This has my vote for being the best post on this thread.

Perhaps you are a healer after all. 'Tis a gift, as freely has you have received, so freely give.

Peace
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My take on the source of Nancy's material is that she has been duped by some unhelpful entities.

Whenever you call out for contact with other entities, you are leaving yourself wide open to all sorts of things that most people do not understand, nor can they protect themselves from them.

Everything is energy and consciousness. We are but one form of conscious energy. There are many others. None are more or less advanced than we, they just have different forms and perceive the energy around them so differently as to not be of this world. It is all about how we perceive and define what we see that determines the world we live in and how we see other conscious energetic beings.

There are entities that latch onto other lifeforms. They aren't evil, they only do what is in their nature to do, and they feed off the life energy of organic life forms. The good news is that in most cases, they cannot do this unless invited. That is why it is so silly and dangerous to ask for other entities to contact you. Without realizing it, you are inviting them to feed off your own life essence, and they really have nothing to offer in exchange. You might as well hang a sign that says "Free Lunch" around your neck.

If one were able to see these entities with their eyes, they would look like any number of energetic configurations and tentacles. Once you have experience seeing them without freaking out, you can learn the subtle differences and distinguish the very few that have anything that would be of interest to us. In my experience, it is a pointless exercise to be in contact with them. They can bring much more harm than good, and usually it is not their intention. They are just so removed from our world, and their nature is so different. They complicate things at best, and at worst they can reduce you to a blathering idiot and slowly sap you of your life essence.

These entities surround us yet they are not here. It is hard to explain. Everything that is exists right here and now, but the bands of perception are what prevent us from seeing it all. Likewise, they only perceive us if they choose to. Their world is so alien to ours, as our world is completely alien to them. In that sense, it is correct to call them aliens, but they do not come from other planets.

The world we see is a construct of our mind, interpreting the energies we sense. We learn descriptions and definitions from the time we are born, and as we adopt them and apply them, the world we see solidifies. This is how an energetic configuration becomes a plant or a mountain or a bug. Once we learn to correlate a description with a given energetic configuration, we will always see it according to that description, unless we learn to suspend our inner dictionary. If we learn to do that, we could see the bug as an energetic being, or we could apply a new description and see it as a pterodactyl or anything else of our choosing.

When we encounter energetic configurations, or aware beings that we have no description for, the mind struggles to find one that is familiar within our inventory of definitions and descriptions. This is why people claim to see aliens, angels, demons, elfs, fairies, spirit guides, departed spirits, etc. The visitor is real, but the way we see them is very subjective. We tend to choose the one we feel most comfortable with. It is a natural human response when confronted with the unknown.

Once you have defined a given energetic entity with a description that your mind accepts, you will see it according to that description. If you want an alien, you will see an alien, and the entity will comply and appear as you have defined the perception.

I think this is what Nancy has done. She called out for contact, and attracted entities she did not understand. Faced with the unknown, something she had no description for, she reached into her subconscious inventory and the description that she felt most comfortable with was the Zeta alien. Unfortunately, most of what she is given is totally useless. It is like a worm on a hook to keep her compliant, as they feed off her life force. I also think that on some level she knows her Zetas are yanking her chain, but she has so much invested in ZetaTalk that she can't stop, and invents material which she attributes to a higher source.

One of the main reasons why I speak out regarding Nancy and Zeta Talk is that she encourages people to send out the call. Everything you need to know as a human being is within your own being. You do not need to be enlightened by any other entity outside yourself. My recommendation is that when you feel such presences, just voice out loud that you want them to leave you alone. Much more often than not, they will respect your wish. After all, there is no shortage of organic beings that willingly offer to host them.

Believe me, I have learned this the hard way, and it was the hardest thing in the world to admit it to myself and break off contact. Trust in yourself. You do not need anyone or anything to show you anything.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


Well stated.
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Nope - the only "pissing" going on is on the part of the debunkers, and they are doing it into the wind!!

:piss_win:

 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Unfortunately for you, no amount of hot air can alter the FACT that Planet X DOES NOT EXIST!!!

Neither do 'The Zetas'!!!

Therefore, you are on a one-way ride to FAIL!!!

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