December 22, 2012 will be even funnier as we watch the zetatards try to handwave away why nothing happened yesterday, or point to relatively mundane everyday "disasters" as proof that it DID happen, just that no one noticed lol.
I predict that this is exactly what will transpire here on GLP. Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
Believe me, I have learned this the hard way, and it was the hardest thing in the world to admit it to myself and break off contact. Trust in yourself. You do not need anyone or anything to show you anything.
KIR,
Again, I don't expect anyone to believe this. It is something you have to discover and work through on your own. When I think back, there was a friend of my grandfather's that told me back when I was a teenager that I needed to disregard the "wisdom" of that indian, but I didn't listen. I had to learn it myself, though I would have saved myself a lot of trouble if I had just believed him. Some of you will think I am completely nuts, and maybe I am. But hey, I am in good company. This is GLP after all.
KIR,
So you believe the 'energy beings' are just another life form? Do you have any theories why they wish to deceive individuals in this density/dimension? Also, what is your take on remote viewing?
Quoting: George B
No. That isn't the case. All life forms are energetic beings, only the form is different, and the form depends on the alignment of consciousness, the world they perceive is constructed by that alignment. You are also one of these energy beings. So are the plants, the animals. Everything is. You and I are human because of the way our perception is aligned. We do what is in the nature of human beings. Other entities are only doing what is in their nature according to the alignment of their perception. They are not trying to deceive anyone. This isn't a question of good or evil. Good and evil are subjective. Why does a puma hunt a rabbit? Because that is it's food source, it is in their nature to do so. Your behavior is just as bizarre to them as theirs is to us. We do not inhabit the same world, we just catch glimpses of each other from time to time when our guard is down, or when we deliberately seek them. When I say that they appear to us in one form or another, it is not really accurate. They appear to us according to how we arrange our perception of them. These other energetic entities cannot harm us and would usually not even perceive our presence, as we don't usually perceive them, unless we call attention to ourselves. If we call attention to ourselves, they take it as an invitation.
As for remote viewing, I do not have any experience with that, so my opinion is not worth much. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Menow User ID: 405501 11/3/2009 3:37 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
Believe me, I have learned this the hard way, and it was the hardest thing in the world to admit it to myself and break off contact. Trust in yourself. You do not need anyone or anything to show you anything.
KIR,
Again, I don't expect anyone to believe this. It is something you have to discover and work through on your own. When I think back, there was a friend of my grandfather's that told me back when I was a teenager that I needed to disregard the "wisdom" of that indian, but I didn't listen. I had to learn it myself, though I would have saved myself a lot of trouble if I had just believed him. Some of you will think I am completely nuts, and maybe I am. But hey, I am in good company. This is GLP after all.
KIR,
So you believe the 'energy beings' are just another life form? Do you have any theories why they wish to deceive individuals in this density/dimension? Also, what is your take on remote viewing?
No. That isn't the case. All life forms are energetic beings, only the form is different, and the form depends on the alignment of consciousness, the world they perceive is constructed by that alignment. You are also one of these energy beings. So are the plants, the animals. Everything is. You and I are human because of the way our perception is aligned. We do what is in the nature of human beings. Other entities are only doing what is in their nature according to the alignment of their perception. They are not trying to deceive anyone. This isn't a question of good or evil. Good and evil are subjective. Why does a puma hunt a rabbit? Because that is it's food source, it is in their nature to do so. Your behavior is just as bizarre to them as theirs is to us. We do not inhabit the same world, we just catch glimpses of each other from time to time when our guard is down, or when we deliberately seek them. When I say that they appear to us in one form or another, it is not really accurate. They appear to us according to how we arrange our perception of them. These other energetic entities cannot harm us and would usually not even perceive our presence, as we don't usually perceive them, unless we call attention to ourselves. If we call attention to ourselves, they take it as an invitation.
As for remote viewing, I do not have any experience with that, so my opinion is not worth much.
Quoting: KeepingItReal
I wish more people understood that. I like to use the analogy of a bull in a china shop. Very distructive for the china shop, but does that mean the bull is evil? No, it means that the bull is incompatable with the china shop. Big difference.
I wish more people understood that. I like to use the analogy of a bull in a china shop. Very distructive for the china shop, but does that mean the bull is evil? No, it means that the bull is incompatable with the china shop. Big difference.
Quoting: Menow 405501
And that leads me to the point of these long rants. We are incompatible with other life forms that we assume are superior beings, aliens, angels, demons, ghosts, etc. It is silly to seek them. As humans, we have two choices. Live our lives as human beings in the world we know, or to go beyond it. I have seen glimpses of what lies beyond, and I personally prefer to live in this world, no matter how flawed. It is where my loved ones are. I am not ashamed to be a human being with flaws. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Circuit Breaker Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure User ID: 766491 11/3/2009 4:04 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
These other energetic entities cannot harm us and would usually not even perceive our presence, as we don't usually perceive them, unless we call attention to ourselves. If we call attention to ourselves, they take it as an invitation.
Quoting: KeepingItReal
In your case the entity choose to interact with your and gave you incorrect information . . . my question is why?
DrPostman Forum Moderator User ID: 806799 11/3/2009 4:59 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
December 22, 2012 will be even funnier as we watch the zetatards try to handwave away why nothing happened yesterday, or point to relatively mundane everyday "disasters" as proof that it DID happen, just that no one noticed lol.
I predict that this is exactly what will transpire here on GLP.
Quoting: The Lone Ranger
She has until September 2011 for her next Great White Lie.
By that month there are supposed to be rampant disasters
during the 4 month long "trimester" (yes, she really believes
that a trimester is 4 months long) prior to the "passage".
Since 2012 is "too far out" she has boxed herself into a
deadline of 4 months prior to 2012. "I've had two teenagers who were considering killing themselves, because they didn't want to
be around when the world ends. Two women in the last two weeks said they were contemplating
killing their children and themselves so they wouldn't have to suffer through the end of the world."
-- NASA Astrobiology Institute scientist David Morrison, on 2012 fears
Can't PM? Feel free to email me at DrPostman(at)gmail.com
These other energetic entities cannot harm us and would usually not even perceive our presence, as we don't usually perceive them, unless we call attention to ourselves. If we call attention to ourselves, they take it as an invitation.
In your case the entity choose to interact with your and gave you incorrect information . . . my question is why?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 758858
I must have unknowingly attracted something. I used to go to this place a big rock over looking the lake, it was my magic place and I would go there to fantasize about the old times of the natives there. I didn't knowingly seek anything, I was just a child. It isn't that the entity gave me false information, more that this is how I interpreted the interaction. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
These other energetic entities cannot harm us and would usually not even perceive our presence, as we don't usually perceive them, unless we call attention to ourselves. If we call attention to ourselves, they take it as an invitation.
In your case the entity choose to interact with your and gave you incorrect information . . . my question is why?
I must have unknowingly attracted something. I used to go to this place a big rock over looking the lake, it was my magic place and I would go there to fantasize about the old times of the natives there. I didn't knowingly seek anything, I was just a child. It isn't that the entity gave me false information, more that this is how I interpreted the interaction.
Quoting: KeepingItReal
Thanks for your information . . . I appreciate your honesty. Seems we have much to understand. I have never had any of your experiences but feel you are telling it straight.
I am sorry, I didn't mean to hijack the thread. The only reason I brought up my story is to illustrate how Nancy comes up with ZetaTalk. I am sure that at one time she encountered something, but her interpretation of what she has encountered is wrong. She may have meant well in the beginning, but she has become rude and arrogant, as most people that feel they have a special mission tend to do when their predictions are challenged and ultimately fail.
I don't think even she believes in the Zetas anymore, if she ever did. I say this because she takes it all too personally, she has been caught editing material supposedly given by the Zetas to alter the meaning, something she previously said she never did, that anything between the tags SOZT/EOZT were messages as they were received by the Zetas. She has also shown us time and time again that she is too pig headed to accept when she is wrong, and instead gives us an even more ludicrous story to cover up her gaffes. She has opted to live in her own little fantasy world, and as long as others encourage her, she will continue to lose her grip on reality. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
. She has also shown us time and time again that she is too pig headed to accept when she is wrong, and instead gives us an even more ludicrous story to cover up her gaffes. She has opted to live in her own little fantasy world, and as long as others encourage her, she will continue to lose her grip on reality.
Quoting: KeepingItReal
Would you say that the information Nancy has received (which she believes to be true) is intentionally false? There is a reason for this misinfo?
. She has also shown us time and time again that she is too pig headed to accept when she is wrong, and instead gives us an even more ludicrous story to cover up her gaffes. She has opted to live in her own little fantasy world, and as long as others encourage her, she will continue to lose her grip on reality.
Would you say that the information Nancy has received (which she believes to be true) is intentionally false? There is a reason for this misinfo?
Quoting: George B
I am not sure about this. Sometimes I think she just makes this stuff up trusting that there will always be a few people gullible enough to swallow it and keep feeding her sense of self importance. Other times I think that people like her discredit genuine and serious research in the area of the paranormal and UFOlogy. Perhaps it is unintentional, or maybe not. I don't think it matters. The fact is that she is consistently wrong about everything. Fortunately, only a very insignificant percentage of the world population has ever even heard of her, and true believers at this point could probably be counted on my fingers and toes. Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
The Lone Ranger Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people User ID: 809549 11/4/2009 5:35 AM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
Live our lives as human beings in the world we know....
Quoting: KeepingItReal
That is good advice for the bunkers.....to start living for today and not put so much energy into that which is delusional and nonsensical....like a halted Earth. Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
The Lone Ranger Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people User ID: 809549 11/4/2009 5:47 AM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
....Other times I think that people like her discredit genuine and serious research in the area of the paranormal and UFOlogy. Perhaps it is unintentional, or maybe not. I don't think it matters. The fact is that she is consistently wrong about everything. Fortunately, only a very insignificant percentage of the world population has ever even heard of her, and true believers at this point could probably be counted on my fingers and toes.
Quoting: KeepingItReal
Nancy LIEDer is not very well known on Planet Earth, as far as celebrity status goes. And yes because Ms LIEDer has been consistently wrong about everything it is only a "handful" of people, both inside and outside of GLP, that even take her seriously. The serious and genuine researchers of both ufology and the paranormal have absolutely nothing to worry about, in regards to the ings of Nancy LIEDer, as these people have far greater exposure and a far greater audience that Ms LIEDer could only dream of having. In all of the books; magazines; videos; and dvds that I have ever watched or read on the subjects of ufology; Planet X; and the paranormal.....Nancy LIEDer's name has never been brought up ONCE...and for GOOD REASON.....Nancy LIEDer is A FAILED KOOKIE WOOWOO!!!!!
Last Edited by The Lone Ranger on 11/4/2009 at 5:50 AM Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
The Lone Ranger Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people User ID: 809549 11/4/2009 5:54 AM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
She has until September 2011 for her next Great White Lie.
Quoting: DrPostman
Yeah I'm really looking forward to the next Great White Lie. Whatever it will be it is guaranteed to be pretty lame and too far out for the normal intelligent person's logic to refrain from total .
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
The Lone Ranger Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people User ID: 809549 11/4/2009 6:05 AM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
Why are 78/68 and Melfy even ON this thread? They were so desperate to have the debunkers gone... so what is their deal?
They come here to monitor what's going on and then report it back to Nancy.
Quoting: Circuit Breaker
I would not be totally surprised if they were both clones......or maybe hybrids from Ms LIEDer's encounters with Mr Slinky or Cockroach Man. Their ages would be accelerated of course due to the alien dna present within their beings.
And last but not least both are as illogical and as stupid in their s as their Great Overlords....The Zetas!!!! Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
***ZetaMax*** Getting The Truth Out User ID: 810061 11/4/2009 6:17 AM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
Live our lives as human beings in the world we know....
That is good advice for the bunkers.....to start living for today and not put so much energy into that which is delusional and nonsensical....like a halted Earth.
Quoting: The Lone Ranger
Or alien fish? The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
She has until September 2011 for her next Great White Lie.
Yeah I'm really looking forward to the next Great White Lie. Whatever it will be it is guaranteed to be pretty lame and too far out for the normal intelligent person's logic to refrain from total .
Quoting: The Lone Ranger
You do not have an "accuracy track record". The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
Why are 78/68 and Melfy even ON this thread? They were so desperate to have the debunkers gone... so what is their deal?
They come here to monitor what's going on and then report it back to Nancy.
I would not be totally surprised if they were both clones......or maybe hybrids from Ms LIEDer's encounters with Mr Slinky or Cockroach Man. Their ages would be accelerated of course due to the alien dna present within their beings.
And last but not least both are as illogical and as stupid in their s as their Great Overlords....The Zetas!!!!
Quoting: The Lone Ranger
Civilized people accord to their fellow beings a certain baseline RESPECT. The depraved however dispense with even this modest civility and instead attempt to deride their fellow man with maximum effort and no restraint, seasoning their diatribe with lies, slander, slurs and false innuendos.
Such is the lot who call themselves DEBUNKERS. The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.
Civilized people accord to their fellow beings a certain baseline RESPECT. The depraved however dispense with even this modest civility and instead attempt to deride their fellow man with maximum effort and no restraint, seasoning their diatribe with lies, slander, slurs and false innuendos.
Such is the lot who call themselves DEBUNKERS.
Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
Hmmm, sounds a lot like you and all your fellow supporters of Nancy Lieder to me. After all, it was Nancy that started claiming "debunkers" were agents. Then you, User and Free Store went to town with it and continue throwing that out there. Apparently, your hypocrisy really knows no bounds.
Returner User ID: 997 11/4/2009 9:25 AM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
Awwww, Melfy and crew are just sore from the stern spanking they just received.
Face it, boys, your ZT goose is not just cooked but put in bags and frozen. ZetaTalk is done. Nancy is just a sad elderly lady telling a silly story no one wants to hear.
Time to latch onto a fresh new Doomsday cult! I hear some daft old cow calling herself the 'Lady of Emmitsburg' or something like that is spewing a lot of crap about some mystery planet of her own. Maybe you guys should check it out. Your knowledge of astronomy is already dumbed down from years of agreeing with Nancy!
Heck, you'd probably all be elected to high posts within the cult in no time at all.
Just some friendly advice. Hope you can keep those delusions and role-plays going!
Civilized people accord to their fellow beings a certain baseline RESPECT. The depraved however dispense with even this modest civility and instead attempt to deride their fellow man with maximum effort and no restraint, seasoning their diatribe with lies, slander, slurs and false innuendos.
Such is the lot who call themselves DEBUNKERS.
Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
Well spoken, my friend.
Soledad
Returner User ID: 997 11/4/2009 10:04 AM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
Civilized people accord to their fellow beings a certain baseline RESPECT. The depraved however dispense with even this modest civility and instead attempt to deride their fellow man with maximum effort and no restraint, seasoning their diatribe with lies, slander, slurs and false innuendos.
Such is the lot who call themselves DEBUNKERS.
Well spoken, my friend.
Soledad
Quoting: Soledad
Hey...Soledaddy...man did I enjoy that Earth Shattering vision of your rogue planet X when it was in the skies above for all to see. Man was July 22nd a massive day for PX doom or what!!
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
The Lone Ranger Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people User ID: 809549 11/4/2009 11:26 AM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
Civilized people accord to their fellow beings a certain baseline RESPECT. The depraved however dispense with even this modest civility and instead attempt to deride their fellow man with maximum effort and no restraint, seasoning their diatribe with lies, slander, slurs and false innuendos.
Such is the lot who call themselves XXBUNKERS.
Quoting: ***ZetaMax***
Project much, Melfster?
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
The Lone Ranger Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people User ID: 809549 11/4/2009 11:29 AM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
But Ms LIEDer has one.....and it's consistent in nature... Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
The Lone Ranger Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people User ID: 809549 11/4/2009 11:33 AM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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"ZetaTalk is all crap. Nancy has spent over ten years writing and compiling a huge web site full of total bullshit. It's a work of true insanity, but useful for nothing other than students of manic disorders." Anonymous Coward. User ID: 597174. 7/11/2009 8:22 PM
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09
Returner User ID: 997 11/4/2009 11:36 AM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
LOL -- you mean Soledad predicted some July 22 appearance by PX, which of course utterly failed to show?
And she's *still* blathering about it, despite that?
I shouldn't be surprised, I guess. Anyone dumb enough to be a Zidiot is dumb enough to keep on hopin' their peek-a-boo planet will eventually turn up, despite overwhleming evidence to the contrary.
Circuit Breaker Countdown To Nancy's Next Failure User ID: 766491 11/4/2009 12:30 PM
Re: Debunker Talk LIVE Chat November 21 - Zetas Wrong Yet Again!!
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ings of Nancy LIEDer, as these people have far greater exposure and a far greater audience that Ms LIEDer could only dream of having. In all of the books; magazines; videos; and dvds that I have ever watched or read on the subjects of ufology; Planet X; and the paranormal.....Nancy LIEDer's name has never been brought up ONCE...and for GOOD REASON.....Nancy LIEDer is A FAILED KOOKIE WOOWOO!!!!!
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