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CharlieFrost

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Daytime view [link to www.youtube.com] night time view
[link to www.youtube.com] on December 9, 2009
[and from another]
Just so everyone knows. It is not a balloon! Nothing but nothing ever is suspended over or flies over the Kremlin. Period. It don't happen. I have been there many times. I sell aircraft in Russia and I know the rules. Putin cannot even helicopter to the airport from the Kremlin.
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[link to www.youtube.com]
One problem with hologram theory..holograms don't reflect light, this object does as well as being shaded properly from the ground lights.
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Thread: PYRAMID UFO OVER KREMLIN IS LEGIT
I'm a master of Maya, Softimage, After Effects and such. There is no way to do that using all those programs mentioned above. I've spent hours trying and it is impossible. I gave up! First of all, the footage is taken from the inside of a moving car and through the glass. Also, you would need to mask electrical cables as on 0:10 and that is crazy to do. There are many other aspects that would require something extraordinary to accomplish. Street light reflections are very dificult to mask as well. I've downloaded the vido to play it frame by frame and and all I can say is: Wow! Folks, tt is real as it gets!
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It’s a tetrahedron by the way-not a pyramid.
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After watching the video over and over again. I can say that a tethered blimp is out of the question. If it were a blimp or balloon there should be a constant and permanent axis of rotation. In this case a cable from the roof to the object. But, and here it's the big but (no pun intended) the object is rotating freely. There is no fixed axis on it.

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This is a real UFO, captured on more than one video. The shape of the tetrahedron, which shows a triangle from four different sides, was generated by space ships nearby, coordinating with one another, thus a type of holograph. Unlike a human generated holograph, however, this display could be seen from all directions, with a precise 3D appearance. The fog like appearance was generated by changing the molecular structure of the air inside the tetrahedron. What was the message being beamed to the residents of Moscow during the display? We have mentioned before
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
that Moscow is in lowlands, with few hills nearby for an escape during flooding. Moscow will be distressed early in the time between the present and the pole shift, due to flooding. What will the residents do, when the hills they would scramble to are hundreds of miles away? Flood waters erode support from under buildings, so they tilt and fall. Serious thought needs to be done by those who live there, to plan for such an emergency, which could come upon them suddenly during a deluge.
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 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Hmmm ... I guess if this UfO was real we would have heard something from the people in moscow ... the only thing we have is a blurred youtube vid ... smells like BS to me.
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The Zetas, the corner of a deviation of Planet X from the Sun that the Second Sun could be observed with open years (without devices as it was in 2003) from different places of the world will increase? Or before passage it will not change? I think that now such sign would become for people the obvious prevention and anxiety for elite.

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The Second Sun sightings occur when Planet X is not directly in the line of sight from the Earth, but slightly to the right so that there is an angle from which sunlight can reflect off the dust cloud thence to Earth. Planet X will indeed pull to the right prior to the last weeks, and increase the Second Sun sightings. We will not specify just when this will occur, as always wanting to keep the establishment off balance.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


What force would PX pull right (right from what in a 3-D space btw.) ? Last time I checked you need active force to overcome inertia.
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What the fuck are you talking about?

You guys talk so damn much smack over here it's no wonder your credibility to the rest of GLP is zilch! Unbelievable!
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bringit Project much there Luserboy!!
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If the Zeta/human hybrid program was launched only in the early 20th century, how will the hybrids be ready to populate 4th-density Earth after the pole shift if many full hybrid life cycles are required to observe, evaluate, and fine-tune this genetic engineering experiment? Did the "Proto-Hybrids" program provide enough helpful information here?

What will the final hybrids look like -- more Zeta or more human? The ZetaTalk archives seem to indicate they will appear more Zeta, but that's not clear.

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Our Hybrid program has been ready for over a decade, and is in full production. When we wrote the 90’s Model
[link to www.zetatalk.com]
we were describing the result.
EOZT
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The Zatas might want to name the 90s model somehow cool ... like NL2003 or something ... WHI-LIE-2003
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Nancy , how come during your august 27th earth frenzy radio show as a guest. How come when the interviewer asked, you , now nancy does this mean that planet x will pass before 2012, and you stated before or after 2012 and not during 2012 which you previously stated that the shift would occur Before 2012?
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Good Question, guess she wont answer it.
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I see Nancy has hired a new "supporter". Callsign: Truth to Power.
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Truth to Power has so far been a very ineffective "supporter". The "recruitment" process for Ms LIEDer is obviously in the....... stuckagain
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I see Nancy has hired a new "supporter". Callsign: Truth to Power.


Truth to Power has so far been a very ineffective "supporter". The "recruitment" process for Ms LIEDer is obviously in the....... stuckagain
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger


On todays chat a guy named "Zetaboy" asked some stupid crap ... he was registered in 2007 and has only 3 own posts ... I wonder if this is one of Nancys logins, I am sure she has plenty of it and as a mod she can sure alter her user ID and therefore be online with several accounts to talk to herself i guess.
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1. Why some hooligans have interest to casual villainy? They can put a sharp metal subject on road and hide it. When the passer-by will step into it he will feel a pain. The sadist takes pleasure in supervision over tortures of a victim, but these villains prefer to operate so.

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Certainly wanting to cause pain and distress is a sign of someone leaning to the STS, if not there already. Sadism and actions that cause pain give the STS person a power trip, just as polluting or creating devastation in some way is a power trip for some STS individuals who get into positions of control in corporations or in politics. It is a power trip. STS individuals at heart are highly insecure, cowards who run when their bully stance is challenged. Thus, the power trip alleviates their insecurity, and they revel in this feeling.
EOZT

2. Zetas said that Africa and the South America were battlefield between STS and STO for souls of people which there live. Why was uncertainty was on these continents? Atrocities were in other places also.

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Even those areas which are considered highly STO countries, such as the Scandinavian countries, have their STS individuals living there, committing crimes or playing power games. It was the proportion of STS in the general population. For Africa, highly colonized and thus enslaved often brutally, this caused many to lean toward this orientation in the past. Likewise S America, where many NAZIs migrated and brutal treatment of civilians occurred were in the past. S America has made a remarkable turnaround, kicking out corporations and electing leaders who run true democracies, giving power to the common man. Africa is likewise on this path. Both continents have been won for the STO.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Hmmm ... last time I checked the african people fight each other in unspeakable cruesome ways ... killing women and children by the hundreds each day ... sounds very STO ?!.
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Hi nancy,

Are the elite now trapped with their cover story of a russian missile to debunk the latest neon spiral? One might assume that may more such spirals will manifest and it will not be credible for tptb to suggest mis fired russian missiles will be responsible for the spirals to come. Are the spirals that are so often represented by petroglyphs showing us what man saw during previous px passages?
Thanks

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Spirals were present in the skies, as signs in the skies, during prior pole shifts, yes. This is a matter we withheld up until now, because of our desire to surprise the establishment as much as possible, to hopefully shake the cover-up and allow admissions of the truth to blurt out. Just as with the frequency of fireballs, which at first were blamed on space junk or on a satellite crash and then on asteroids entering Earth’s field, the establishment will cast around for explanations before simply falling silent on the matter. The time is coming when silence will be their only defense, so that the common man looks elsewhere for an explanation.
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Wonder why the Zetas did not predict the norway spiral then.
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Certainly wanting to cause pain and distress is a sign of someone leaning to the STS, if not there already. Sadism and actions that cause pain give the STS person a power trip, just as polluting or creating devastation in some way is a power trip for some STS individuals who get into positions of control in corporations or in politics. It is a power trip. STS individuals at heart are highly insecure, cowards who run when their bully stance is challenged. Thus, the power trip alleviates their insecurity, and they revel in this feeling.

EOZT

Wow. This sounds like Nancy. I would also point to the first part of this quote about causing pain and distress being a sign of STS. She advocated drilling a hole in the base of the penis and using a wooden plug as a method of contraception in the aftertime. Pretty painful and distressing if you ask me! Only a sadistic woman could have come up with something like that.
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SOZT
Certainly wanting to cause pain and distress is a sign of someone leaning to the STS, if not there already. Sadism and actions that cause pain give the STS person a power trip, just as polluting or creating devastation in some way is a power trip for some STS individuals who get into positions of control in corporations or in politics. It is a power trip. STS individuals at heart are highly insecure, cowards who run when their bully stance is challenged. Thus, the power trip alleviates their insecurity, and they revel in this feeling.

EOZT

Wow. This sounds like Nancy. I would also point to the first part of this quote about causing pain and distress being a sign of STS. She advocated drilling a hole in the base of the penis and using a wooden plug as a method of contraception in the aftertime. Pretty painful and distressing if you ask me! Only a sadistic woman could have come up with something like that.
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She doesnt like men really much I have the impression.
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Nancy , how come during your august 27th earth frenzy radio show as a guest. How come when the interviewer asked, you , now nancy does this mean that planet x will pass before 2012, and you stated before or after 2012 and not during 2012 which you previously stated that the shift would occur Before 2012?


Good Question, guess she wont answer it.
 Quoting: CharlieFrost


We all know the real reason for Ms LIEDer's inconsistencies is that she is reactive to her continual failures. So in order to "save face" Ms LIEDer just piles yet more billshit upon her original billshit......no matter how stupid it makes her look. Ms LIEDer knows full well that her rogue planet ain't coming in 2003; 2004; 2005; 2006; 2007; 2008; 2009; 2010; 2011; or 2012. So when Ms LIEDer continues to claim a perfect track record of prediction accuracy by her imaginary zeta aliens all it does is make for good popcorn time.

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2) Every year thousands of people observe meteor showers (e.g. Geminids). I guess the Earth meet them moving along its orbit. If it had been stopped on its orbit, it would not have met them. But it met them, as thousands of people can not all lie. What can you say?

SOZT
Such meteor showers are not limited to one part of the Earth’s orbit, which is small and close to the Sun, and thus partake. There are traditionally strong or slight, so variation is explained along those lines.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


You explain nothing Nancy, you just make up some gibberish words ... it's ridiculous.

If earth was haltet in its orbit the meteor shower would not be in time, end of discussion.
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It is a power trip. STS individuals at heart are highly insecure, cowards who run when their bully stance is challenged. Thus, the power trip alleviates their insecurity, and they revel in this feeling.

Pretty accurate description of Nancy and her sock puppet brigade. Rather than stand up to challenges made to their claims, Nancy bans, ignores and censors those that dare. Her minions like User, Max and Freestore spew bravado and then run away, hiding behind insults, innuendo and smilies.
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I was wondering how the debunkers can still say all is fine with evidence like this earthquake chart...
[link to www.nowpublic.com]
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[link to earthquake.usgs.gov]
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Any big events to happen this december?

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We are not allowed to detail what and when any events will occur, as we have often stated.
EOZT
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Because you can't Nancy, face it ... your accuracy rating is 0.00% so far.
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On todays chat a guy named "Zetaboy" asked some stupid crap ... he was registered in 2007 and has only 3 own posts ... I wonder if this is one of Nancys logins, I am sure she has plenty of it and as a mod she can sure alter her user ID and therefore be online with several accounts to talk to herself i guess.
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Yes we have "caught" Ms LIEDer a few times using fake GLP poster identities. Often her M.O. in this regards is, as you have correctly asserted, is to continue on a conversation with herself. Ms LIEDer's use of "other" identities and AC's within her "own" threads has achieved absolutely NOTHING!!

May 2003 was Nancy LIEDer's WATERLOO!!

Everything POST May 2003 is nothing more than internet entertainment.

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1) NASA spacecraft “Messenger” was launched several years ago to study Mercury. Last year and this one it was very near of Mercury, sending its photos to us. PX had to be somewhere there also and so had to destroy or at least influence “Messenger” in a bad manner. As I know, it is still working. Your comments?

SOZT
Man’s probes are not interfered with as a matter of course, so unless NASA sent its probe into harms way, there is no reason for it to be destroyed.
EOZT

2) Every year thousands of people observe meteor showers (e.g. Geminids). I guess the Earth meet them moving along its orbit. If it had been stopped on its orbit, it would not have met them. But it met them, as thousands of people can not all lie. What can you say?

SOZT
Such meteor showers are not limited to one part of the Earth’s orbit, which is small and close to the Sun, and thus partake. There are traditionally strong or slight, so variation is explained along those lines.
EOZT

3) Today here new SOHO images of PX were posted by Cheryl Nelson [ [link to poleshift.ning.com] I thought PX must be shown to the right and down of the Sun (as on the very first SOHO image), but on these and some other photos it is at different places – to the left, from above, anywhere. Also need your comments.

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The Winged Globe or other manifestations of Planet X have all this year been shown in places OTHER than the traditional 4 o’clock or so position. This is due to the buffeting around that the Earth and its satellites take in the particle flow turmoil coming round from behind Planet X. Likewise, Planet X itself dances around, due to MANY factors which are too numerous to list. In addition, there are times when some part of the massive tail of Planet X is catching the light, so it is not the corpus itself casting light.
EOZT

4) And the last. You said PX is out of Mercury’s orbit and so it must be farther from the Sun. I can suspect I am wrong, but explain – why does not Mercury (nearer to the Sun) “get lost in its shining” and PX (farther to the Sun) “gets lost in its shining” ? Thanks.

SOZT
Mercury does not have a massive dust cloud shrouding it, and Planet X does.
EOZT
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Um, translation anyone? I think she is basically saying, hmm, maybe if I make a nice word salad everyone will forget what the question was. So hard to tell what she means sometimes. I could be wrong. LOL.
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Everything POST May 2003 is nothing more than internet entertainment.
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I fully agree.
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Any big events to happen this december?

SOZT
We are not allowed to detail what and when any events will occur, as we have often stated.
EOZT


Because you can't Nancy, face it ... your accuracy rating is 0.00% so far.
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0 percent
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Without the dog spammer there is not much action at her chat today ... guess if she doesnt pull out the army of sockpuppet we wont see more than 5 pages.
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Are the Zetas able to tell us which political leaders in the United States other than President Obama are STO "Star Children?" Which political leaders outside the U.S. are STO Star Children? Thank you.

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This would be an invasion of privacy and not serving any but your idle curiosity. Thus declined.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder

Translation. We learned with Obama that it isn't a good thing to identify the star children, because when they fail to measure up it shows that we don't have a fucking clue, so in the future will will decline this kind of question.

Any big events to happen this december?

SOZT
We are not allowed to detail what and when any events will occur, as we have often stated.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder

Translation. After our failed Christmas Hammer predictions a couple of years ago, we realize that it is cult suicide to predict anything so concrete, so now we refuse to be anything but vague.
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Nancy, as of this moment CNN is pushing hard ahead with exposing "ClimateGate" and the so-called deniers seem to have the upper hand. Do the zetas think that Gore and his buddies might finally use the situation and do the right thing, start to come clean?

SOZT
No. They will play their roles until the end, just as NASA will deny the presence of a rogue planet in the inner solar system. They will fall silent, be unavailable for comment, but the truth will not come from these sources.
EOZT
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You idiot, Nancy!!

lol4me It's because there was and still is NO ROGUE PLANET THERE!!

Help is on the way for you Nancy...... woopatrol
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Without the dog spammer there is not much action at her chat today ... guess if she doesnt pull out the army of sockpuppet we wont see more than 5 pages.
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Big_smile The Dog Spammer was obvious good business for Ms LIEDer. lol4me No wonder she refused to take any banning action against him/her.
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After our failed Christmas Hammer predictions a couple of years ago, we realize that it is cult suicide to predict anything so concrete, so now we refuse to be anything but vague.
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Ah yes the old Christmas Hammer predictions.

lol4me Nancy sure knows how to make a right fool of herself.
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7.38pm and just 3 pages!!

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7.38pm and just 3 pages!!

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hi Nancy
14 YEARS of Zetatalk ( 1995-2009) is a very long time
despite the accuracy of the predictions of Zetatalk
it gets a bit lame now -whith their non -disclosure of the Poleshift date they seem rather to support the elite who puts more and more in place to prepare for "their" future - are the Zetas not actually helping the elite
from other accuracy proven prohesies we know the pole shift is in August - so is it now before 2012 or after - any "wobbling" will only discredit the Zetas by now .
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Wonder what she will answer to this.
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Why do I think about extraterrestrials so much? And why do I think about them so much right before I go to bed. Am i simply obsessed/paranoid or whats going on? Sometimes I feel anxious that something is just going to manifest itself in my room and catch me off guard and freak me out

SOZT
It is common knowledge that an obsession with aliens is a sign of a contactee. A new contactee is adjusting to what this means, sudden contact, unannounced, and often at night.
EOZT
 Quoting: Nancy Lieder


Its also common knowledge that if you are obsessed with aliens you are a nutjob .... being interested is another story, everyone is interest if somethings out there ... but when it comes to obsession -> next stop loony bin.
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And you had to form a team with the sole intent of countering ZetaTalk and Nancy Lieder? Riiiggghhhtt...

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