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The Lone Ranger (OP)

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Circuit Breaker,

If you are not working here at GLP as a shill as enough people have noticed then why are you here so damn much?

You have been here all day so far. Do you not think people can see this and all those time stamps?

Honestly, I think you might be very deluded ... just sayin ...
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Tick tock, Luser.

I bet you just run away, as usual, without a word concerning the faked chart you referenced here earlier.
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If you are doing this at work, you should be fired. You spend wayyy too much time here on your boss's dime!

Just goes to show how NOT credible and deceitful you are.

I'd fire you in a second if you worked for me and I found out you were stealing my time like that. You don't seem too bright there, dimbledorf.
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How much time do you spend on the Internet? I think you should be fired.
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CB, I don't think he can be fired from the Special Home.

But they might take away his alone time privileges.
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That's what every time thief says!

As I said, you aren't that bright! If you are here at GLP as much as YOU are, your job isn't getting done, is it?

Time is money, and you are a waste of both, it seems! Employee of the month ... good on ya.
 Quoting: User # 78/68

You aren't too bright yourself. Everyone sees how you keep dodging the issue of earthquakes that you brought up.

Why is that User?
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Tick tock, Luser.

I bet you just run away, as usual, without a word concerning the faked chart you referenced here earlier.
 Quoting: Returner 997


Run, Luser, Run!!!!
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Yeah, Luser, you seem to have plenty of time to hurl insults.

Why can't you say anything else?

Is it because you have NO defense for your own stupidity?
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Yeah, Luser, any comments on your last Epic Fail?
 Quoting: Returner 997


lol4me Luserboy is so delusional he believes that there are other GLPers who actually see him as anything other than an EPIC FAIL!!
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So, Luser, where is all that "strong evidence" you said you had? Earthquakes?...no that chart was faked and the data shows no increase. Fireballs?...no those were Geminid meteors that occur every year at this time.

So..you have NOTHING? And we're supposed to be less than two years away from px causing a pole shift?
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20 bucks says Luser will present yet another fake chart -- it might even be a jpg *named* 'fakechart.'
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Long silence!


Luser = PWNED!
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Long silence!


Luser = PWNED!
 Quoting: Returner 997

_absurd

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The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Ok Max. Why don't you tell us why it is absurd. Anyone can post graphics, but if they can't explain their position, it's like farting in the wind.

Lets go over the facts. Luser posted a graph and a link on Nancy's thread about earthquakes and said that the debunkers were too chicken to look at it and comment. He was wrong. We did look, and we discovered that it's a bogus graph. We did comment and asked Luser to explain the dishonest link. He didn't. He changed the subject to fireballs and challenged us to comment, but with the vague mention of "fireballs" who knows what he is talking about. So here we have Luser being called out for running away from yet another hit and run attack. Now tell us what is so absurd about that. Please do illustrate how the debunkers are the idiots here. Seems to me the only one that has behaved like a dishonest idiot is Luser, and coming to his defense with an empty water pistol doesn't make you look any better than he. I am sure you think I am wrong, so please do elaborate on why we are idiots and Luser is not. Make my day.
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Ok Max. Why don't you tell us why it is absurd. Anyone can post graphics, but if they can't explain their position, it's like farting in the wind.

Lets go over the facts. Luser posted a graph and a link on Nancy's thread about earthquakes and said that the debunkers were too chicken to look at it and comment. He was wrong. We did look, and we discovered that it's a bogus graph. We did comment and asked Luser to explain the dishonest link. He didn't. He changed the subject to fireballs and challenged us to comment, but with the vague mention of "fireballs" who knows what he is talking about. So here we have Luser being called out for running away from yet another hit and run attack. Now tell us what is so absurd about that. Please do illustrate how the debunkers are the idiots here. Seems to me the only one that has behaved like a dishonest idiot is Luser, and coming to his defense with an empty water pistol doesn't make you look any better than he. I am sure you think I am wrong, so please do elaborate on why we are idiots and Luser is not. Make my day.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal


By their fruits ye shall know them ...
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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And since the 'fruits' of the ZTers are:

* failed predictions
* debunked claims
* more failed predictions
* more debunked claims
* obvious lies
* mental illness

...that lets us know "exactly" what the ZetaTalers ARE, isn't that "right," Melfy???
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Ok Max. Why don't you tell us why it is absurd. Anyone can post graphics, but if they can't explain their position, it's like farting in the wind.

Lets go over the facts. Luser posted a graph and a link on Nancy's thread about earthquakes and said that the debunkers were too chicken to look at it and comment. He was wrong. We did look, and we discovered that it's a bogus graph. We did comment and asked Luser to explain the dishonest link. He didn't. He changed the subject to fireballs and challenged us to comment, but with the vague mention of "fireballs" who knows what he is talking about. So here we have Luser being called out for running away from yet another hit and run attack. Now tell us what is so absurd about that. Please do illustrate how the debunkers are the idiots here. Seems to me the only one that has behaved like a dishonest idiot is Luser, and coming to his defense with an empty water pistol doesn't make you look any better than he. I am sure you think I am wrong, so please do elaborate on why we are idiots and Luser is not. Make my day.


By their fruits ye shall know them ...
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Amen. That's the most intelligent comment you have made in a hell of a long time. Luser posts a faked graph and the debunkers not only prove it is faked, they provide bonafide data to back up their claims. Max comes on and defends Luser when there is no defense, but only with graphics that any moron can post, no justification of his position. Yes, we are known by our "fruits", which is why nobody takes Max or Luser seriously.
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And since the 'fruits' of the ZTers are:

* failed predictions
* debunked claims
* more failed predictions
* more debunked claims
* obvious lies
* mental illness

...that lets us know "exactly" what the ZetaTalers ARE, isn't that "right," Melfy???
 Quoting: Returner 997


Not "lies" - but off target forecasts, within the margin of error.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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And since the 'fruits' of the ZTers are:

* failed predictions
* debunked claims
* more failed predictions
* more debunked claims
* obvious lies
* mental illness

...that lets us know "exactly" what the ZetaTalers ARE, isn't that "right," Melfy???


Not "lies" - but off target forecasts, within the margin of error.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

ROFLMAO. How about the paid shill lie? How about the lie about being on the fence? How about the "Hap is a fake astronomer and NASA shill" lie? How about Nancy quoting a poster, changing the text, deleting the original and banning the poster? How about Nancy editing the material within the SOZT/EOZT tags to cover her gaffes? Off target forecasts! HA!! I have yet to see Nancy forecast anything that wasn't way off target, which brings up the question of why she continues to make a fool of herself, and why only a handful of sock puppets and trolls defend her. Oh and how can we forget the infamous "white lie" of 2003? And of course the new one Nancy is concocting and preparing us for when 2012 comes and goes with no planet x and no pole shift. That's one hell of a big "margin of error". ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
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Hey, ZetaMax is back...!!!

ZetaMax, you ROCK dude... love that AV....)))


I am a fan of ZetaMax, not Nancy...!!!


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And since the 'fruits' of the ZTers are:

* failed predictions
* debunked claims
* more failed predictions
* more debunked claims
* obvious lies
* mental illness

...that lets us know "exactly" what the ZetaTalers ARE, isn't that "right," Melfy???


Not "lies" - but off target forecasts, within the margin of error.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


What is "within the margin of error"? Please be specific. Please give an example and why it is "within the margin of error".


But I'm sure you will just try to ignore this.
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Acceptable ZetaTalk Margins of Error

NUMERIC ERROR MARGINS -- Within Zetatalk, the acceptable margin for error for any calculation, estimate, or other numeric operation or inferment is from zero to infinity.

Example: Planet X will arrive in 2003.
This date estimate is correct EVEN IF PLANET X NEVER ARRIVES, because it is within the Margin of Error (0 to infinity).



ALL OTHER MARGINS -- Within ZetaTalk, the acceptable margin for error for any statement or prediction is considered to be expressed thusly:

Statement A = TRUE, always, even if Statement A *contradicts itself.*

Example: Planet X exerts a mysterious gravity repulsion whenever it is convenient.
This statement is true, despite all evidence to the contrary, because ALL STATEMENTS ARE TRUE.

I hope that clears things up.
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Acceptable ZetaTalk Margins of Error

NUMERIC ERROR MARGINS -- Within Zetatalk, the acceptable margin for error for any calculation, estimate, or other numeric operation or inferment is from zero to infinity.

Example: Planet X will arrive in 2003.
This date estimate is correct EVEN IF PLANET X NEVER ARRIVES, because it is within the Margin of Error (0 to infinity).



ALL OTHER MARGINS -- Within ZetaTalk, the acceptable margin for error for any statement or prediction is considered to be expressed thusly:

Statement A = TRUE, always, even if Statement A *contradicts itself.*

Example: Planet X exerts a mysterious gravity repulsion whenever it is convenient.
This statement is true, despite all evidence to the contrary, because ALL STATEMENTS ARE TRUE.

I hope that clears things up.
 Quoting: Returner 997

And since the Zetas are so advanced that they don't use zero in their mathematics, the chances of being wrong are even lower. The fact that Nancy has a 0% accuracy "track record" and 0 credibility is therefore irrelevant to Zetards, because in their universe, zero doesn't exist. How convenient for Nancy.
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I see that Max has been unable to respond to his ridiculous claim of things being "within the margin of error".

Max, let's make it simple...please name one single astronomical claim she's ever made that you think is "within the margin of error".
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"margin of error" is in the same league as "soon" where zetatalk, Nancy and Liederson are concerned.
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No bullshit, hand on a stack of bibles 37 feet high, I laughed out loud at least half-a-dozen times while reading the last 8 or 9 pages of this thread. Seriously. Don't think I've ever done that before.

Circuit Breaker, that list is...brilliant. You need to dip it in bronze, mount it on a plaque and keep it in a safety deposit box somewhere to maybe give to your grandchildren someday because it is priceless. But lookit me, thanking you, when we all know you never could've done it without Our Boy, User. Aim high, User. Thank you for everything your've done. And avoided to do.

What's fascinating is I've been making (trying to make?) some coherent, reasonable arguments over there in a thread in the "space" section (video a kid posted claims to have footage of, seriously, a black hole "eating a comet" ...in our solar system).

Anyway, I can't make any progress over there either. It's the same tactics. They make a declaration, you counter it with logic- they evacuate.

Whatever. We've always got this thread. Fine work. All of you.
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By their fruits ye shall know them ...
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

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By their fruits ye shall know them ...
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Well that certainly applies just perfectly when used in regards to describing Nancy and her imaginary alien Overlords...... Haha
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Yes you are, Melfy!!



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Yes you are, Melfy!!

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These arguments that pole shifts are not survivable are silly - for they ignore the huge amount of cultural and even archeological evidence that humans experienced AND survived previous pole shifts.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Typical Nancy quote, complete nonsense stated as fact. It's fabricated rubbish. If (according to Nancy) 90% of humans die then by obvious definition so does 90% of everything else, trees, animals, insects etc. You cannot kill 90% of the entire ecosystem and survive.

More importantly this is simply not possible every 3,600 years.

You drown in your own stupidity.
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At one time, someone presented the mathematical calculations showing how much energy would be released and what it was equivalent to....something like detonating nuclear devices all over the world every minute. I don't remember exactly what it was. Anyway, none of the bunkers have presented anything that disputes that...nothing that shows it would be survivable.
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Yes, here is my take on some of the observations;


According to Nancy the Earth stops first then turns 90 degrees in one hour, the Earth currently spins at 1,100mph, one quarter of a turn requires 6 hours, ergo a turn speed of 6,600mph.

Part A - where we stop the Earth rotation.
Now 70 percent of the Earth's surface is water, if you stop the Earth's crust from rotating the water will attempt to keep going, not sure? pour a glass of water over a basketball. Easy to see.

So all that water will roll over everything, Mt. Everest included, all this at faster than the speed of sound.

Part B - where we flip the Earth 90 degrees.
Now all that previous water is beginning to settle back into the basins from where it came, now you tilt the Earth 90 degrees at 6,600,mph, for a very brief time the water will try to stay in place due to inertia however once it's moving the water is now moving at 9 times the speed of sound.

That amount of water at that speed will scour the Earth's surface right down to bedrock.

Now throw in the mega upheavals claimed to the Earth's crust, the massive movements to the Earth's tectonic plates and you now have an Earth's crust that is molten rock, yes the entire planet, the seas turn to super heated steam.

You are dead!

And now the energy figures.

of course animals and plants did and will survive. humans always DID survive. they are likely to survive the shift itself, but NOT likely to last long after it


There has never been a pole shift as Nancy describes it. There isn't the first shred of evidence for one.

Now, about the survival of such a calamity. Fist of all, I have seen no one describe what the mechanism by which a pole shift is supposed to happen. Nancy's "magnetic" arguments are laughable in light of the fact that the earth's iron core is spherical and the earth's magnetic field is extremely weak...only strong enough to barely move the needle in a toy compass. By what does Planet X "grab" the earth in order to stop it's rotation and flip it on its side?

Second, even if the earth could be "grabbed" by something to stop its rotation, the energy that would have to be dissipated is HUGE. But it's easily calculated.

The rotational energy of the earth (of mass 6x10^24 kg) is 2.58 x 10^29 Joules.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This rotational enegy HAS to be dissipated in order to stop the earth's rotation. In other words, a non-rotating earth has ZERO rotational energy...to get from rotating to non-rotating, 2.58 x 10^29 Joules MUST be dissipated as heat.

The energy of the atomic bomb that decimated Hiroshima was 6.3 x 10^13 Joules.

[link to hypertextbook.com]

Thus, the rotational energy that MUST be dissipated to stop the earth's rotation is 2.58 x 10^29 J / 6.3 x 10^13 J, or the equivalent of 4.1 x 10^15 Hiroshima bombs. In longhand, that is

4,100,000,000,000,000 Hiroshima bombs. Nancy has claimed that this would occur in one hour or less.

Do you think that anyone would survive over 4 million- billion Hiroshima atomic bombs going off over the course of one hour?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 88145


Ps.

(Thanks to 88145)


If this were evenly distributed over the 197 million square miles of the earth's surface,


[link to pages.prodigy.net]

this would be the equivalent of 4.1 x 10^15 / 1.97 x 10^8, or almost 21 MILLION Hiroshima atomic bombs per SQAURE MILE!

If distributed evenly through the volume of the earth (260000000000 cubic miles)

[link to www.google.com]

this would be the equivalent of 4.1 x 10^15 / 2.6 x 10^11, or just under 16,000 Hiroshima atomic bombs per cubic mile of rock.

Now, who thinks that any living organism would survive such a disaster?
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