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Option 4 of the original poll is hilarious. Nancy is essentially a cult leader, and will simply change her story. Her followers will continue to believe.

Pretty much. They've been doing that and making excuses since 2003. And even though User and Max say they're done with Nancy in 2012 if "Planet X" doesn't show up...I somehow feel they'll continue defending her.
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Isn't 2003 when Nancy killed her dog, and urged others to do the same?
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I see that Lois got cold feet and deleted her post. If you look at her prior posts on her main page, you will see she has been trying to place a seed of discontent with regards to Nancy and the Zeta's for quite some time. When I see these posts, I see a new debunking technique...pose as a friend then divide and conquer. A few weeks back there was a posting from a new member who's pic was a flying saucer with a red line through, claiming that he used to believe Nancy, but after the 2003 white lie, could no longer believe what she or the Zeta's said.
This member is no longer on here, making me think of a great white shark attack...he came in for a bite and then disappears into the shadows, waiting for the prey to bleed out. This is how I see Lars' post as well. He came in in a friendly manner, posing as someone looking for answers, but in actuality he's planting a seed of doubt.

Speak for yourself Lois and I don't worship anybody. Nancy is a vital member of this community and most people on this site wouldn't know about pole shifts if it wasn't for her. Basically, you've just told another member of this group they are not welcome here. This site needs to go back to what it was...info on surviving the passing of PX. The next time someone comes on here and creates a post with the intention of undermining Nancy, as this one does, I suggest everyone ignore it. If, however, you choose to be one of those small minded people who are easily misled, then keep your bashing to yourself or move over to GLP.
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What? The 2003 "white lie"?

lmao
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What? The 2003 "white lie"?

lmao
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Yeah..."white lie" my ass. It was nothing but an excuse to explain away a failed prediction. I am so looking forward to 2012. It will be quite interesting to see if her followers face reality...or if they'll simply swallow yet another excuse.
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Damn, they finally figured it out 1rof1rofl

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Please calm down. This ning may be under attack!

There seem to be some strange goings-on going on here. Good people feel like they are being presented from posting. People feel that their accounts are being hacked and misused. And there are definitely a sudden, noticeable influx of debunker/heckler types.

Suddenly, almost overnight, the atmosphere seems to have changed from one of active, fruitful exchange and discussion toward currents of distrust or paranoia or personal attacks. Maybe I am overstating things, but let's all just take a deep breath anyway.

To me, this ning has been the first real refuge I have found in over two decades of tracking and preparing for the Earth Changes that I know are coming. I think others feel the same way. We don't want to lose this.

If you feel that something is going on, let's communicate openly and try to get the facts before taking action or pointing fingers. Part of our learning here on Earth is for STO to have to deal with STS. The best way to do this is with honesty and real community, which makes them uncomfortable, and hopefully gets them to take their business elsewhere!

The Shadow
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roflcoaster !!!!

A Zetard shows his real face:

You can spot them a mile away Shadow. Most people in my group are too soft hearted to kill these STS types in the aftertime. Luckily, I do not have that problem. But that's a different story. If they come to this site talking about how they just can't see the logic in Zetatalk, then they are up to something. If you still don't have enough proof to believe what Zetatalk has accurately predicted, then you wouldn't be here arguing your case because the evidence is simply too vast to ignore it.
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roflcoaster !!!!

A Zetard shows his real face:


You can spot them a mile away Shadow. Most people in my group are too soft hearted to kill these STS types in the aftertime. Luckily, I do not have that problem. But that's a different story. If they come to this site talking about how they just can't see the logic in Zetatalk, then they are up to something. If you still don't have enough proof to believe what Zetatalk has accurately predicted, then you wouldn't be here arguing your case because the evidence is simply too vast to ignore it.

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From link here:

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You can spot them a mile away Shadow. Most people in my group are too soft hearted to kill these STS types in the aftertime. Luckily, I do not have that problem. But that's a different story. If they come to this site talking about how they just can't see the logic in Zetatalk, then they are up to something. If you still don't have enough proof to believe what Zetatalk has accurately predicted, then you wouldn't be here arguing your case because the evidence is simply too vast to ignore it.
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Unbelievable ... that zetard suggests to "kill these STS types".
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I agree Mega, and to quote a line from a movie that I always liked (in reference to STS): "I own a rifle and a shovel. I doubt very much that anyone will miss you."
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I find most of these people that are posing as answer seekers pretty transparent. Its obvious that they are only here to place doubts in our mind. Like I said in one of my responses...ignore them. This isn't a place to discuss Nancy's validity, its for people who already believe she is here to pass on valuable information. We have moved beyond the doubt, but they are trying to take us back to that place.
If you are here as a member who believes in pole shifts and PX, but don't believe Nancy is telling the truth, then keep it to yourself. Nancy is a member of this community and deserves the same respect we all do. This isn't a forum for bashing or promoting your own personal agendas.
I feel if a post/blog doesn't have anything to do with Earth changes and it should be deleted.
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Ah, but suggesting to kill all STS people is OK ?
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I'm logging in for the first time today, Sunday, after doing up the live chat stuff and issuing the newsletter. I and Gerard and Cheryl are mods, so I have the ability to clean things up .. after I figure out HOW to do it. Cheryl was to be gone until 1/8 I think, not sure if she is back, and have NOT heard from Gerard in the last few days. Humm. Wait! I did hear from him yesterday!

In any case, an influx by the paid debunker crowd was only a matter of time. But all 3 of the mods feel the same way, are united, in how this ning should be allowed to proceed. At last, a place to have honest conversations, without the noise!

Be back later ...

It was only a mat
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You can't go outside at night during the winter months and not see Orion completely twisted, along with others such as Canis Major. You can't miss the neon colored chemical smears in the clouds around the Sun and Moon. Surely you didn't miss the Norway spiral. Surely you noticed the magnetosphere twisted almost all the time after Sept 30. Surely you noticed the winged globe appearing regularly on SOHO.

If you know of Nancy Lieder and ZetaTalk, then you also know of all the factors involved that I just mentioned because they go hand and hand. Therefore, if you find your way to this site, you know all about it and certainly cannot be confused over the issue.

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I'm logging in for the first time today, Sunday, after doing up the live chat stuff and issuing the newsletter. I and Gerard and Cheryl are mods, so I have the ability to clean things up .. after I figure out HOW to do it. Cheryl was to be gone until 1/8 I think, not sure if she is back, and have NOT heard from Gerard in the last few days. Humm. Wait! I did hear from him yesterday!

In any case, an influx by the paid debunker crowd was only a matter of time. But all 3 of the mods feel the same way, are united, in how this ning should be allowed to proceed. At last, a place to have honest conversations, without the noise!

Be back later ...

It was only a mat


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If I only knew where to get all that debunker money :(
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Thanks for this blog Shadow.
I myself developed a sixth sense (a "nose") for the debunkers technique. Maybe I used to be a debunker in a previous life , like when Galileo was alive =) I spot them right like 90% of the time, very few times I play their game, for a reason. The new visitors to this site for the most part don't have personal experiences with debunkers and their methods. They see and read only what the superficial debunking statemant says, no further. However obvious the attempt attack might be to some of us, it is not so to the neophyte. It is very tempting after the first couple of debunking posts to just say to the "chap" to piss off and get him/her/them banned. Unfortunately, at times, doing that is exactly what some debunking happenstances are designed to do, to turn the newcomer off to the message and to make it look that the site is just full of fanatics in a clique like mentality ready to kill for Nancy and the Zetas without regard for courtesy and/or common sense bent up on kicking out anyone who disagrees with them. A falsehood of course, but not all see it so clearly, the STS intents of their posts aren't easily discerned. I sometimes read a debunker's article in the past and had mental pictures of one or more people working at a computer, and saw them sometimes laughing at the stuff they wrote and how they came up with hilarious content they thought was so clever, and how they pat themselves on the back constantly in their own insecurity. Recent posts written by more than one person, with the intentional misspellings, and the all eager that decided that inferring Nancy a "deluded" person in a personal attack was the right time to do it, all tale tell signs. They also delight in creating paranoia, reason for which I think ignoring such posts is the first and right thing to do.
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rofl
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Recent posts written by more than one person, with the intentional misspellings, and the all eager that decided that inferring Nancy a "deluded" person in a personal attack was the right time to do it, all tale tell signs.
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How the hell do they tell the intentional misspellings from the garden variety misspellings over there?
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They also delight in creating paranoia,
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But of course the paranoia is built in to their belief system which includes a conspiracy so vast that it can conceal obvious events in the heavens, brainwash even your closest loved ones and send Secret Agents to follow you around on the internet.
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In any case, an influx by the paid debunker crowd was only a matter of time. But all 3 of the mods feel the same way, are united, in how this ning should be allowed to proceed. At last, a place to have honest conversations, without the noise!

Be back later ...
 Quoting: Nancy LIEDer

Shit, I can get paid for this? Someone show me a link where I can apply. Pointing out the obvious false claims and failed predictions made by Nancy should be easy money.

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In future, do not hesitate to let me know about posts like this. I generally check in once or twice a day, but if things get busy, too much will roll off the front page and it may get lost. Flash me an email, and if you are not yet a friend of mine, issue an invite ASAP.

If you want to see what a discussion group becomes when these types are allowed to take over, go see the Troubled Times Watch list. I no longer direct people there, but rather to this ning.
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Nothing but debunkers, talking to each other!

One of the techniques used is snide remarks that, unless challenged, are took to stand as truth. Thus, all time is spend rebutting. I have control on GLP as a mod there, but only use this during the live chats. I can/ban every post that is clearly just insulting and distracting, questions that have been answered endlessly posted yet again, then complaints that I won't address the question. Quotes claimed to be from ZetaTalk with no link, either taken out of context thus or not what the Zetas said at all. I have learned it is better to clean them out promptly, no appologies.

Lets be like Yoda, who was unquestionably STO but knew when to take out his light saber.
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You can spot them a mile away Shadow. Most people in my group are too soft hearted to kill these STS types in the aftertime. Luckily, I do not have that problem. But that's a different story. If they come to this site talking about how they just can't see the logic in Zetatalk, then they are up to something. If you still don't have enough proof to believe what Zetatalk has accurately predicted, then you wouldn't be here arguing your case because the evidence is simply too vast to ignore it.


Unbelievable ... that zetard suggests to "kill these STS types".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 861331


Macho bravado from a bunch of wimps who wouldn't survive two days without electricity or running water.

Those who brag the most are usually the ones without the stones to do anything.
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You can't go outside at night during the winter months and not see Orion completely twisted, along with others such as Canis Major.
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Oh yes I can, the stars are right where they're supposed to be and that's a fact. Just because you don't know what the constellations look like doesn't mean something's wrong. If the constellations like those are all "twisted" then why can my telescope find the orion nebula just fine?
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You can't miss the neon colored chemical smears in the clouds around the Sun and Moon.
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LOL! You mean sundogs and moondogs? Or halos from ice crystals? I've seen both all my life, they're completely natural phenomenon and you can tell whether they're likely to be present just based on the weather that day.
Surely you didn't miss the Norway spiral.
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Sure didn't... funny how it lined up perfectly with the location of third stage ignition for a bulava rocket launched from the white sea.
Surely you noticed the winged globe appearing regularly on SOHO.
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Yeah, it's called CCD blooming, and it happens every time something bright enough enters the field of view, such as with Venus and Mercury. Every. Single. Time.
Therefore, if you find your way to this site, you know all about it and certainly cannot be confused over the issue.
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I don't think I'm the one who's confused here.
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chuckle
I noticed that people are getting a little harsh in accusing others of being STS. I don't think we should judge so quickly. The Zeta talk seems to be getting harsh to many innocent questions. I am still going to show love weather anybody likes it or not.
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Getting your reservation in EARLY I see!!!


I see you're still on drugs there, Melfy!!

EThigh

Why don't you take one of them electical wires you work with and shove it up your ARSE!!! (And Nancy will throw the switch!)
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


So Loneranger was on the money eh!!.

yes_sir It's a seemingly important trend amongst the more highly profile Nancy sockpuppets .......elle was addicted to the booze....and Melfy has an affection for consuming drugs.

Geez who'd thunk it!!

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I would care to speculate that MOST true zetatalk followers are indeed those with serious mental and/or emotional problems. There cannot be any other reason/s to explain such behaviour by these few folk and especially given the fact that zetatalk and Nancy LIEDer have been complete FAILURES for over a decade now.

Since you've used the word "most", I take it you are excluding me from that "commmunity" - which is wise because as you know, I am indeed not part of it!!

onfence
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Nope you are included alright, Melfy.

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I laughed at the threats directed toward debunkers. I doubt most of these goofs could change a tire or heat a cup of coffee without burning down the entire government-subsidized housing project in which they dwell. The thought of them hunting me down is laughable.

They can keep their little woo-woo site. I have no desire to even visit it -- the Stupid is strong there, and perhaps even contagious.
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In any case, an influx by the paid debunker crowd was only a matter of time. But all 3 of the mods feel the same way, are united, in how this ning should be allowed to proceed. At last, a place to have honest conversations, without the noise!

Be back later ...

Shit, I can get paid for this? Someone show me a link where I can apply. Pointing out the obvious false claims and failed predictions made by Nancy should be easy money.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

dbunk
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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I would care to speculate that MOST true zetatalk followers are indeed those with serious mental and/or emotional problems. There cannot be any other reason/s to explain such behaviour by these few folk and especially given the fact that zetatalk and Nancy LIEDer have been complete FAILURES for over a decade now.

Since you've used the word "most", I take it you are excluding me from that "commmunity" - which is wise because as you know, I am indeed not part of it!!

onfence


Nope you are included alright, Melfy.

Jekel_Hyde
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Is it really necessary to BOLD the name use to torment and antagonize me? It demonstrates denigrating me is not merely a "regrettable but necessary duty", but that you actually ENJOY it!

Such pleasure has a name - it's called SADISM.

Last Edited by ***ZetaMaX*** on 01/10/2010 06:10 PM
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Ah, I see...the sister school to this one, where you're obviously a professor:

bunky

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Is it really necessary to BOLD the name use to torment and antagonize me? It demonstrates denigrating me is not merely a "regrettable but necessary duty", but that you actually ENJOY it!

Such pleasure has a name - it's called SADISM.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


God, your hypocrisy truly knows no bounds.
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Getting your reservation in EARLY I see!!!


I see you're still on drugs there, Melfy!!

:EThigh:

Why don't you take one of them electical wires you work with and shove it up your ARSE!!! (And Nancy will throw the switch!)
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Why are the supporters of Nancy so rude? I have been reading for a few weeks and I see some good comments by people that don't believe her with good links to back up why they say things, but none of the ones that support her have anything constructive to say only insults. If she is right why cant her followers or even Nancy herself show proof or debunk the evidence against her. Why do they only have rude comments and attack people instead of deconstruct the content they disagree with and give alternate information with links. The only links they post are to other sites with no credibility. I think it isn't a very effective way of convincing people that are new here, in fact it turns people away. I have only made a few comments, and most of the responses have been rude insults. Are these zeta fans for real, or are they just role playing? I can't believe anyone can be so uneducated to really buy what Nancy says.
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Getting your reservation in EARLY I see!!!


I see you're still on drugs there, Melfy!!

EThigh

Why don't you take one of them electical wires you work with and shove it up your ARSE!!! (And Nancy will throw the switch!)

Why are the supporters of Nancy so rude? I have been reading for a few weeks and I see some good comments by people that don't believe her with good links to back up why they say things, but none of the ones that support her have anything constructive to say only insults. If she is right why cant her followers or even Nancy herself show proof or debunk the evidence against her. Why do they only have rude comments and attack people instead of deconstruct the content they disagree with and give alternate information with links. The only links they post are to other sites with no credibility. I think it isn't a very effective way of convincing people that are new here, in fact it turns people away. I have only made a few comments, and most of the responses have been rude insults. Are these zeta fans for real, or are they just role playing? I can't believe anyone can be so uneducated to really buy what Nancy says.
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It's simple really, the debunkers are better "funded".
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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