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Truth is... they are just dying to have debunkers invade that "ning" place so they can sumerily banish us from their fantasy utopia. It will be boring as hell there without us and I, for one, have no intention of giving them any of my time and energy. Let them stew in their own juices.

Is "ning" some kind of general site for hosting blogs or something? If so, perhaps we should set up a debunker ning and start keeping a record of every one of their debunked claims. It'd probably make things easier to reference.
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Far too many to ever keep track of. That's how Nancy has managed to maintain her story, though, due to the fact that she has amassed all of her skewed data and self-supporting lies in one place with no rebuttal. To the gullible masses, it SEEMS to make sense and 'ring true'.
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Far too many to ever keep track of. That's how Nancy has managed to maintain her story, though, due to the fact that she has amassed all of her skewed data and self-supporting lies in one place with no rebuttal. To the gullible masses, it SEEMS to make sense and 'ring true'.
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Hmm, I smell a great source of material to do a point-counterpoint book. I wonder if Nancy would sue if we quoted her directly...
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I doubt that she'd have any grounds for a suit, if the quotes were taken from a public website like GLP or ZetaTalk.
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Lots of counterpoint has been done in the past at places like sci.astro and badastronomy. Nancy just tells her believers that those places are part of the ebil gov'mint conspiracy and then they won't believe anything said against Nancy by anybody. It's classic cult mind-control tactics.
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Lots of counterpoint has been done in the past at places like sci.astro and badastronomy. Nancy just tells her believers that those places are part of the ebil gov'mint conspiracy and then they won't believe anything said against Nancy by anybody. It's classic cult mind-control tactics.
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Oh I know, I just figured while we're at it, might as well make a few bucks off of it, then we can finally say we got paid to say what we said lol!
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Will Luser and ZetaMax get any mentions, maybe as footnotes?
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Lots of counterpoint has been done in the past at places like sci.astro and badastronomy. Nancy just tells her believers that those places are part of the ebil gov'mint conspiracy and then they won't believe anything said against Nancy by anybody. It's classic cult mind-control tactics.

Oh I know, I just figured while we're at it, might as well make a few bucks off of it, then we can finally say we got paid to say what we said lol!
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Oh... you meant a REAL book... why sure... GO for it! It would be quite an undertaking. The detail required to explain where Nancy is wrong on each and every point would be voluminous.
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Lots of counterpoint has been done in the past at places like sci.astro and badastronomy. Nancy just tells her believers that those places are part of the ebil gov'mint conspiracy and then they won't believe anything said against Nancy by anybody. It's classic cult mind-control tactics.

Oh I know, I just figured while we're at it, might as well make a few bucks off of it, then we can finally say we got paid to say what we said lol!


Oh... you meant a REAL book... why sure... GO for it! It would be quite an undertaking. The detail required to explain where Nancy is wrong on each and every point would be voluminous.
 Quoting: Menow 405501

Yeah, you could do a whole dissertation on it, but at least it would practically write itself. The trick is that I'd want to have top-notch first hand sources cited for everything so it would be absolutely air-tight.
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Lots of counterpoint has been done in the past at places like sci.astro and badastronomy. Nancy just tells her believers that those places are part of the ebil gov'mint conspiracy and then they won't believe anything said against Nancy by anybody. It's classic cult mind-control tactics.
 Quoting: Menow 405501


This is ALL The LIEDer has left in her Arsenal of gimmicks. The zetacult is a very real internet community. Thankfully though it is confined to a few special woowoos within cyberspace and is virtually ineffective outside of that medium.

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Funny how the "don't worry - everything's FINE" message comes courtesy of a couple of ADMITTED sadistic THUGS???

What's wrong with this picture???
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Geez for such a devout Aftertimer you sure do whine like a wittle bitch there, Melfy!!

:Ha:

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Will Luser and ZetaMax get any mentions, maybe as footnotes?
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As "foot in mouth notes?"..... definitely.

Both Luserboy and Melfy are experts at doing so!!

:excited:

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It's simple really, the debunkers are better "funded".
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lol4me Melfy you zidiot!!
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Lots of counterpoint has been done in the past at places like sci.astro and badastronomy. Nancy just tells her believers that those places are part of the ebil gov'mint conspiracy and then they won't believe anything said against Nancy by anybody. It's classic cult mind-control tactics.

Oh I know, I just figured while we're at it, might as well make a few bucks off of it, then we can finally say we got paid to say what we said lol!


Oh... you meant a REAL book... why sure... GO for it! It would be quite an undertaking. The detail required to explain where Nancy is wrong on each and every point would be voluminous.

Yeah, you could do a whole dissertation on it, but at least it would practically write itself. The trick is that I'd want to have top-notch first hand sources cited for everything so it would be absolutely air-tight.
 Quoting: Astronut


Yeah, but it would only be "air-tight" to those who don't accept the grand-conspiracy-to-hide-PX theory as aspoused on Zetatalk. Without that bit, it all falls right apart... but in the face of a belief in the conspiracy, you can never prove anything, because any facts you bring are always subject to having been "doctored" by the coverup.

THERE is the real subject of a dissertation. It would be about the nature of belief systems which automatically preclude any bits which tend to disrupt it's core premises, and the factors which are instrumental in that.

It's really quite a fascinating study.
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Menow is absolutely right. Just look at Volar. He rejects everything we've said because, to him, the claims made by astrologers are more plausible. He doesn't care if those claims are true or not as long as they support his beliefs.
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THERE is the real subject of a dissertation. It would be about the nature of belief systems which automatically preclude any bits which tend to disrupt it's core premises, and the factors which are instrumental in that.

It's really quite a fascinating study.
 Quoting: Menow 405501


Yes, and you will be able to read my book sometime in 2013, although primarily it is about the internet and it's ability to spread doom and mental disorders.
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Funny how the "don't worry - everything's FINE" message comes courtesy of a couple of ADMITTED sadistic THUGS???

What's wrong with this picture???


Geez for such a devout Aftertimer you sure do whine little a wittle bitch there, Melfy!!

:Ha:
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Guess I won't be seeing YOU in the "Aftertime" ...
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

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Oh... you meant a REAL book... why sure... GO for it! It would be quite an undertaking. The detail required to explain where Nancy is wrong on each and every point would be voluminous.

Yeah, you could do a whole dissertation on it, but at least it would practically write itself. The trick is that I'd want to have top-notch first hand sources cited for everything so it would be absolutely air-tight.
 Quoting: Astronut



What difference would it make? Remember who would be reading it. Those with any sense will already know all of her vast errors, and those who are her followers won't care or are too stupid to understand.
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I see.

Well, fantasizing is as far as they'll ever get when it comes to destruction caused by "Planet X."

The way some of them talk there and here, they appear giddy with anticipation of our ultimate demise. They can't wait for "Planet X" to come and kill the big, bad, mean "debunkers." If it were to ever happen, they'd probably throw a party.
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Many of Nancy's believers hope for a pole shift. Most, if not all, believe they will survive to live in some fourth density utopia.

Of course, if such an unlikely event were to occur, they'd all be toast along with the rest of the Earth's lifeforms.
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THERE is the real subject of a dissertation. It would be about the nature of belief systems which automatically preclude any bits which tend to disrupt it's core premises, and the factors which are instrumental in that.

It's really quite a fascinating study.


Yes, and you will be able to read my book sometime in 2013, although primarily it is about the internet and it's ability to spread doom and mental disorders.
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EGG-celent!
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Truth is... they are just dying to have debunkers invade that "ning" place so they can sumerily banish us from their fantasy utopia. It will be boring as hell there without us and I, for one, have no intention of giving them any of my time and energy. Let them stew in their own juices.

Is "ning" some kind of general site for hosting blogs or something? If so, perhaps we should set up a debunker ning and start keeping a record of every one of their debunked claims. It'd probably make things easier to reference.
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[link to www.poleshafted.ning.com]

Of course, everyone will now know my name.
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Truth is... they are just dying to have debunkers invade that "ning" place so they can sumerily banish us from their fantasy utopia. It will be boring as hell there without us and I, for one, have no intention of giving them any of my time and energy. Let them stew in their own juices.

Is "ning" some kind of general site for hosting blogs or something? If so, perhaps we should set up a debunker ning and start keeping a record of every one of their debunked claims. It'd probably make things easier to reference.


[link to www.poleshafted.ning.com]

Of course, everyone will now know my name.
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Heh... I like it! I'll check back on that later. Will be away from the internets for a while now.
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Guess I won't be seeing YOU in the "Aftertime" ...
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Enjoy your swim dumb ass2 !!
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Truth is... they are just dying to have debunkers invade that "ning" place so they can sumerily banish us from their fantasy utopia. It will be boring as hell there without us and I, for one, have no intention of giving them any of my time and energy. Let them stew in their own juices.

Is "ning" some kind of general site for hosting blogs or something? If so, perhaps we should set up a debunker ning and start keeping a record of every one of their debunked claims. It'd probably make things easier to reference.
 Quoting: Astronut


I'm in for it !
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[link to www.poleshafted.ning.com]

Of course, everyone will now know my name.
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I joined.
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[link to www.poleshafted.ning.com]

Of course, everyone will now know my name.

I joined.
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Me 2
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Menow is absolutely right. Just look at Volar. He rejects everything we've said because, to him, the claims made by astrologers are more plausible. He doesn't care if those claims are true or not as long as they support his beliefs.
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Going one step further, I've never even heard of a claim made by an astrologer that the cosmos was out of whack.

That would destroy the whole premise of their belief system.
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Oh... you meant a REAL book... why sure... GO for it! It would be quite an undertaking. The detail required to explain where Nancy is wrong on each and every point would be voluminous.

Yeah, you could do a whole dissertation on it, but at least it would practically write itself. The trick is that I'd want to have top-notch first hand sources cited for everything so it would be absolutely air-tight.



What difference would it make? Remember who would be reading it. Those with any sense will already know all of her vast errors, and those who are her followers won't care or are too stupid to understand.
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Sad but true. I suppose you all are right, it's more interesting from a socialogical angle and how cult-like groups form and exclude any evidence that threatens their beliefs.
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Yeah, you could do a whole dissertation on it, but at least it would practically write itself. The trick is that I'd want to have top-notch first hand sources cited for everything so it would be absolutely air-tight.
 Quoting: Astronut


What's really needed is a succinct, up to date "Zetatalk is wrong" website that would hit all the major points in layman's terms. Something you could refer your sister the yoga instructor to if she started talking about ZetaTalk.

David Morrison's FAQ is all right but he's not completely up to speed.
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A little help please in the 'Scientifically it makes sense...brown dwarf' thread?

I have to go for a while!

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