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The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 862491 New Zealand 01/11/2010 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's simple really, the debunkers are better "funded". Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Melfy you zidiot!! Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
Menow User ID: 405501 United States 01/11/2010 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lots of counterpoint has been done in the past at places like sci.astro and badastronomy. Nancy just tells her believers that those places are part of the ebil gov'mint conspiracy and then they won't believe anything said against Nancy by anybody. It's classic cult mind-control tactics. Quoting: AstronutOh I know, I just figured while we're at it, might as well make a few bucks off of it, then we can finally say we got paid to say what we said lol! Oh... you meant a REAL book... why sure... GO for it! It would be quite an undertaking. The detail required to explain where Nancy is wrong on each and every point would be voluminous. Yeah, you could do a whole dissertation on it, but at least it would practically write itself. The trick is that I'd want to have top-notch first hand sources cited for everything so it would be absolutely air-tight. Yeah, but it would only be "air-tight" to those who don't accept the grand-conspiracy-to-hide-PX theory as aspoused on Zetatalk. Without that bit, it all falls right apart... but in the face of a belief in the conspiracy, you can never prove anything, because any facts you bring are always subject to having been "doctored" by the coverup. THERE is the real subject of a dissertation. It would be about the nature of belief systems which automatically preclude any bits which tend to disrupt it's core premises, and the factors which are instrumental in that. It's really quite a fascinating study. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 01/11/2010 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Menow is absolutely right. Just look at Volar. He rejects everything we've said because, to him, the claims made by astrologers are more plausible. He doesn't care if those claims are true or not as long as they support his beliefs. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Prof_Rabbit User ID: 854190 Australia 01/11/2010 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THERE is the real subject of a dissertation. It would be about the nature of belief systems which automatically preclude any bits which tend to disrupt it's core premises, and the factors which are instrumental in that. Quoting: Menow 405501It's really quite a fascinating study. Yes, and you will be able to read my book sometime in 2013, although primarily it is about the internet and it's ability to spread doom and mental disorders. |
***ZetaMax*** User ID: 862644 United States 01/11/2010 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Funny how the "don't worry - everything's FINE" message comes courtesy of a couple of ADMITTED sadistic THUGS??? Quoting: The Lone RangerWhat's wrong with this picture??? Geez for such a devout Aftertimer you sure do whine little a wittle bitch there, Melfy!! :Ha: Guess I won't be seeing YOU in the "Aftertime" ... The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations. ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997. [link to www.zetatalk.com] ZetaMax |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 795135 United States 01/11/2010 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh... you meant a REAL book... why sure... GO for it! It would be quite an undertaking. The detail required to explain where Nancy is wrong on each and every point would be voluminous. Quoting: AstronutYeah, you could do a whole dissertation on it, but at least it would practically write itself. The trick is that I'd want to have top-notch first hand sources cited for everything so it would be absolutely air-tight. What difference would it make? Remember who would be reading it. Those with any sense will already know all of her vast errors, and those who are her followers won't care or are too stupid to understand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 817765 United States 01/11/2010 09:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see. Quoting: Circuit BreakerWell, fantasizing is as far as they'll ever get when it comes to destruction caused by "Planet X." The way some of them talk there and here, they appear giddy with anticipation of our ultimate demise. They can't wait for "Planet X" to come and kill the big, bad, mean "debunkers." If it were to ever happen, they'd probably throw a party. Many of Nancy's believers hope for a pole shift. Most, if not all, believe they will survive to live in some fourth density utopia. Of course, if such an unlikely event were to occur, they'd all be toast along with the rest of the Earth's lifeforms. |
Menow User ID: 405501 United States 01/11/2010 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | THERE is the real subject of a dissertation. It would be about the nature of belief systems which automatically preclude any bits which tend to disrupt it's core premises, and the factors which are instrumental in that. Quoting: Prof_Rabbit 854190It's really quite a fascinating study. Yes, and you will be able to read my book sometime in 2013, although primarily it is about the internet and it's ability to spread doom and mental disorders. EGG-celent! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 817765 United States 01/11/2010 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Truth is... they are just dying to have debunkers invade that "ning" place so they can sumerily banish us from their fantasy utopia. It will be boring as hell there without us and I, for one, have no intention of giving them any of my time and energy. Let them stew in their own juices. Quoting: AstronutIs "ning" some kind of general site for hosting blogs or something? If so, perhaps we should set up a debunker ning and start keeping a record of every one of their debunked claims. It'd probably make things easier to reference. [link to www.poleshafted.ning.com] Of course, everyone will now know my name. |
Menow User ID: 405501 United States 01/11/2010 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Truth is... they are just dying to have debunkers invade that "ning" place so they can sumerily banish us from their fantasy utopia. It will be boring as hell there without us and I, for one, have no intention of giving them any of my time and energy. Let them stew in their own juices. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 817765Is "ning" some kind of general site for hosting blogs or something? If so, perhaps we should set up a debunker ning and start keeping a record of every one of their debunked claims. It'd probably make things easier to reference. [link to www.poleshafted.ning.com] Of course, everyone will now know my name. Heh... I like it! I'll check back on that later. Will be away from the internets for a while now. |
The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 862491 New Zealand 01/12/2010 04:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess I won't be seeing YOU in the "Aftertime" ... Quoting: ***ZetaMax***Enjoy your swim !! Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 862868 Germany 01/12/2010 05:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Truth is... they are just dying to have debunkers invade that "ning" place so they can sumerily banish us from their fantasy utopia. It will be boring as hell there without us and I, for one, have no intention of giving them any of my time and energy. Let them stew in their own juices. Quoting: AstronutIs "ning" some kind of general site for hosting blogs or something? If so, perhaps we should set up a debunker ning and start keeping a record of every one of their debunked claims. It'd probably make things easier to reference. I'm in for it ! |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 01/12/2010 06:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 817765 I joined. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Prof_Rabbit User ID: 854190 Australia 01/12/2010 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Circuit Breaker Me 2 "Anger is a wind that blows out the lamp of your mind" |
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Henry Fnord User ID: 548017 United States 01/12/2010 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Menow is absolutely right. Just look at Volar. He rejects everything we've said because, to him, the claims made by astrologers are more plausible. He doesn't care if those claims are true or not as long as they support his beliefs. Quoting: Circuit BreakerGoing one step further, I've never even heard of a claim made by an astrologer that the cosmos was out of whack. That would destroy the whole premise of their belief system. |
Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 634208 United States 01/12/2010 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh... you meant a REAL book... why sure... GO for it! It would be quite an undertaking. The detail required to explain where Nancy is wrong on each and every point would be voluminous. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 795135Yeah, you could do a whole dissertation on it, but at least it would practically write itself. The trick is that I'd want to have top-notch first hand sources cited for everything so it would be absolutely air-tight. What difference would it make? Remember who would be reading it. Those with any sense will already know all of her vast errors, and those who are her followers won't care or are too stupid to understand. Sad but true. I suppose you all are right, it's more interesting from a socialogical angle and how cult-like groups form and exclude any evidence that threatens their beliefs. |
Henry Fnord User ID: 548017 United States 01/12/2010 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, you could do a whole dissertation on it, but at least it would practically write itself. The trick is that I'd want to have top-notch first hand sources cited for everything so it would be absolutely air-tight. Quoting: AstronutWhat's really needed is a succinct, up to date "Zetatalk is wrong" website that would hit all the major points in layman's terms. Something you could refer your sister the yoga instructor to if she started talking about ZetaTalk. David Morrison's FAQ is all right but he's not completely up to speed. |
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Henry Fnord User ID: 548017 United States 01/12/2010 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to poleshift.ning.com] I just don't understand how people could be so confused. It almost seems like it borders on some kind of learning disability regarding understanding spatial relationships. |
The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 862491 New Zealand 01/12/2010 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used to hang out a lot at GLP, but the negative vibe was very strong. Also, the attacks on Nancy and anyone who expresses even the slightest belief in PX is overwhelming at times (as well as incredibly childish). It was impossible to have an intelligent conversation there with all the trolls and shills. This site is a godsend, and I just hope the jerks never find it!!! Quoting: The ShadowP.S. I was also banned from GLP, probably for being too pro-PX. December 25, 2009 at 12:17am [link to poleshift.ning.com] The Stupid is indeed strong with these ones. Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 863271 United States 01/12/2010 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, you could do a whole dissertation on it, but at least it would practically write itself. The trick is that I'd want to have top-notch first hand sources cited for everything so it would be absolutely air-tight. Quoting: Henry FnordWhat's really needed is a succinct, up to date "Zetatalk is wrong" website that would hit all the major points in layman's terms. Something you could refer your sister the yoga instructor to if she started talking about ZetaTalk. David Morrison's FAQ is all right but he's not completely up to speed. I really don't think it would make a difference. Just look at how many times the whole concept of polar mounted GOTO scopes and occultations have been explained, but you still see the idiots claiming that the earth has changed its tilt. They simply don't have the capacity to understand. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 817765 United States 01/12/2010 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Prof_Rabbit The first one I did had a more appropriate name...poleshit All that signed up are now approved - two of you have been made administrators - I'll apply those privileges to others if you want. |
The Lone Ranger (OP) User ID: 862491 New Zealand 01/12/2010 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first one I did had a more appropriate name...poleshit Quoting: Anonymous Coward 817765All that signed up are now approved - two of you have been made administrators - I'll apply those privileges to others if you want. Poleshaft is very descriptive and very appropriate in many ways......the bunkers will come to realise eventually that they have been shafted by the likes of Ms LIEDer. Life Is But A Dream!! Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all." ------------------------------------ Disclaimer: DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS THREAD!....USE DISCERNMENT!! |
User # 78/68 User ID: 681262 Canada 01/12/2010 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ah, I see Luser has popped by. Hiya, Luser. Still frothing at the mouth and pooping your own pants, as usual. Quoting: Circuit BreakerShouldn't you be out scouring YouTube for the next fantastic Planet X video, lol? Or finding evidence to back up his claims about earthquakes and fireballs instead of running scared with his tail tucked between his legs? He's like a little chihuahua...all bark but no bite. How that big space rock looking now, Circuit Breaker? They said they never saw it coming and it's 50-60 ft wide ... and yet, another incoming bollard. You are looking dumber by the day! Oh, AND Haiti got a major earthquake today too ... how much credibility do you think you have left? Really? |
User # 78/68 User ID: 681262 Canada 01/12/2010 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How that big space rock looking now, Circuit Breaker? They said they never saw it coming and it's 50-60 ft wide ... and yet, another incoming bollard. Quoting: DrPostmanYou are looking dumber by the day! Oh, AND Haiti got a major earthquake today too ... how much credibility do you think you have left? Really? And those two prove Planet X how? The Carribean is along a fault zone and this isn't the first time they have had a major earthquake in that region and NEOs happen more frequently than you seem to think. What's more is that most of them are discovered by AMATEUR ASTRONOMERS - the same people who claim can't find a giant planet bouncing around the inner solar system. Your passionate credulity reeks! Your denial of these things runs DEEP, Dr Postman ... very deep! |
Henry Fnord User ID: 548017 United States 01/12/2010 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh, AND Haiti got a major earthquake today too ... how much credibility do you think you have left? Quoting: User # 78/68Really? You're as bad as the Christians over on the earthquake thread trying to exploit the quake to support their theory of a vengeful God. According to Nancy, earthquakes are supposed to have been increasing EXPONENTIALLY since the year 2000. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 01/12/2010 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How that big space rock looking now, Circuit Breaker? They said they never saw it coming and it's 50-60 ft wide ... and yet, another incoming bollard. Quoting: User # 78/68What does that have to do with your vague comment about fireballs you made over three weeks ago? What about that chart depicting "increasing earthquakes" that had a bogus link? You are looking dumber by the day! Quoting: User # 78/68Considering how stupid you are...it's easy to see how you'd be confused. Oh, AND Haiti got a major earthquake today too Quoting: User # 78/68And? That supports your claims about increasing earthquakes how? ... how much credibility do you think you have left? Quoting: User # 78/68Far more than you. Really? Quoting: User # 78/68Yes. Really. Now that you've made your mean and nasty attack, it's time for you to thump on your chest and run off feeling superior. See you next week. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 01/12/2010 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Circuit Breaker User ID: 766491 United States 01/12/2010 11:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to Nancy, earthquakes are supposed to have been increasing EXPONENTIALLY since the year 2000. Quoting: Henry FnordDon't bring facts into the argument. It just confuses him and gets him all riled up. A voice of reason in a world of woo-woos. |