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TRUTH is not a popularity contest.
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No, but the truth is a majority of people don't believe what Nancy says.
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It would be better for these DEBUNKER FOOLS foolmask if they simply retired from the arena - the damage they are doing to THEIR VERY SOULS is incalculable!!!
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You make it perfectly clear you are definitely not a fence sitter. The only ones damaging their souls are people like you who are trying to convince people that a "rogue planet" is coming to wipe out 90% of life on Earth. I wonder how you sleep at night?

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TRUTH is not a popularity contest.

No, but the truth is a majority of people don't believe what Nancy says.
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Wasn't it Max that used to go on about how popular Nancy was and insisted it was an indication of the truth in her message? Max and his bunker buddies just can't help contradicting themselves and showing their hypocrisy.
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It would be better for these DEBUNKER FOOLS if they simply retired from the arena - the damage they are doing to THEIR VERY SOULS is incalculable!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


You know, Max, it seems to me ZetaTalk has all the disadvantages of a dogmatic religious cult without any of the benefits. You guys need to read up on L. Ron, Joseph Smith, Ramtha.
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175 vote NO. 109 vote YES. Don't look too good for GLP
believing in the wildly popular Zetatalk. Guess it
must be popular somewhere else, huh?

TRUTH is not a popularity contest.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


With that one sentence you've outed yourself for the umpteenth time as not being a "fence sitter".
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175 vote NO. 109 vote YES. Don't look too good for GLP
believing in the wildly popular Zetatalk. Guess it
must be popular somewhere else, huh?

TRUTH is not a popularity contest.


With that one sentence you've outed yourself for the umpteenth time as not being a "fence sitter".
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It's the old "I'm open minded and not affiliated with this product in any way" ruse.

Classic "shill" tactic....going by the actual definition.
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Wasn't it Max that used to go on about how popular Nancy was and insisted it was an indication of the truth in her message? Max and his bunker buddies just can't help contradicting themselves and showing their hypocrisy.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

Well, you can be hugely popular...but that doesn't mean that people like you, think you're right or even believe you. That's something that Nancy's attack dog Luser doesn't seem to grasp. He thinks that because Nancy is popular...it means that she is also believed. And I debate how popular she actually is. Yes, she's popular with certain people...but that doesn't make her the most popular person on GLP.
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Wasn't it Max that used to go on about how popular Nancy was and insisted it was an indication of the truth in her message? Max and his bunker buddies just can't help contradicting themselves and showing their hypocrisy.

Well, you can be hugely popular...but that doesn't mean that people like you, think you're right or even believe you. That's something that Nancy's attack dog Luser doesn't seem to grasp. He thinks that because Nancy is popular...it means that she is also believed. And I debate how popular she actually is. Yes, she's popular with certain people...but that doesn't make her the most popular person on GLP.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

CB can't refrain from "debunking" for even 24 hours. PATHETIC!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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CB can't refrain from "debunking" for even 24 hours. PATHETIC!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

And Nancy's son Kurt, aka ZetaMax, can't refrain from shilling for even 24 hours. I made three whole posts yesterday. So what's your point?

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Hey Melfy -- how are sales of the dome homes going these days?

No wonder you have so much time to post here.
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Wasn't it Max that used to go on about how popular Nancy was and insisted it was an indication of the truth in her message? Max and his bunker buddies just can't help contradicting themselves and showing their hypocrisy.

Well, you can be hugely popular...but that doesn't mean that people like you, think you're right or even believe you. That's something that Nancy's attack dog Luser doesn't seem to grasp. He thinks that because Nancy is popular...it means that she is also believed. And I debate how popular she actually is. Yes, she's popular with certain people...but that doesn't make her the most popular person on GLP.

CB can't refrain from "debunking" for even 24 hours. PATHETIC!!!ed
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Maxi Kurt can't refrain from making an ass of himself for even a few hours, and he just can't leave this thread alone. Before you posted this there had been no posts at all to this thread for 16 hours. He just does't know what to do with himself if he can't bait debunkers. Thanks for the bump!
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These days, the ONLY way Melfy and Luser can get anyone to talk about Zetatalk is to come here and bait the debunkers.

Everyone else tells them to shut the fuck up.

It's no fun being the village idiots, is it, Melfy and Luser?
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Hey Melfy -- how are sales of the dome homes going these days?

No wonder you have so much time to post here.
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SlideLock (TM) could save MILLIONS of lives that will otherwise be needlessly and tragically LOST!!!

The DEBUNKERS have sabotaged its potential.

I wouldn't want their KARMA!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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In the words of Ron Darby
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Dome Projects

“Reading ZT or looking at the web site for Kurt's dome one gets the impression that much more has been accomplished than actually has. When I was first there Nancy was happy for me to work with Kurt. I accompanied Kurt to visit the only potential manufacturing company to learn of their process and what would be required from Kurt and to get ball-park pricing. Kurt's patent is limited to a variation of a "dove-tail" joint for interconnecting two panels. When I arrived Kurt had two prototype panels for the purpose of demonstrating the interlocking mechanism. The panels were flat instead of curved as would be required. The molding of these panels was done with rubber molds which could not meet the exacting tolerances required. These two panels would NOT slide together. To achieve the required tolerances would require two aluminum molds which cost about $8000 per mold; and two molds would be required for every horizontal "layer" of the dome. The panels are 1 foot square, so you can see that a pair of molds would be required for every foot of circumference divided by two. This places the cost of even a very small prototype in the millions of dollars.


I pointed out that absolutely no structural calculations had been done and the cost to accomplish this was never determined. I pointed out that even after structural modeling had been done mathematically, test panels would be required for destructive testing to ensure the structure wouldn't collapse of it's own weight.


After our visit to the manufacturer Kurt spent the better part of a year doing nothing but structural drawings (drafting). Usually late at night while smoking Kurt and I would brainstorm. The next day he would bring the results to his mom. Then the shit would hit the fan. She didn't want me corrupting Kurt's "creativity" with my silly engineering concerns. That's when she first told Kurt not to talk to me about the dome.


When Ichi came he said he had much money and would finance a prototype dome. Nancy was ecstatic and did everything she could to encourage Ichi ... even to offering to give him a piece of her property to build his personal dome.



The problem that Nancy couldn't control was that she always went to bed around 7pm and Kurt, Ichi, and I would sit in the basement all night talking about the dome among other things. As Ichi learned of my concerns and realized the real costs involved he realized that he didn't have but a small fraction of the cost of a prototype ... and with Nancy's "shortcuts" that the dome wouldn't likely even work. I felt it my "duty" to at least inform Ichi of my concerns and what I did know. Eventually, Ichi told Nancy he couldn't afford the prototype. At this point Nancy could no longer deny or ignore the fundamental costs of just the moulds.


Then Kurt and I brainstormed up to the day I left (behind Nancy's back) about ideas to modify the design to make it more producible. There were many times that Kurt really liked and wanted to incorporate my ideas but when Nancy learned the source she vetoed them. A couple months before I left any real work on the design had been discontinued and Kurt spent his time doing the only thing that he really know how to do, which was to use an old satellite dish as the platform to construct a model so photos could be produced and the floor plan could be shown.”

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Seems Kurt is still in the forefront of attention seeking.


Sunday, January 24, 2010

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Mon Jul 21 2008
NORTH FREEDOM — About 1,500 motorcycle riders found a friendly reception in North Freedom Saturday afternoon as they rolled through the Sauk County landscape for the 23rd Muscular Dystrophy Association Freedom Ride.

Resident Kurt Haberman made a large sign with black and orange markers with the words "Go MDA Riders."

Haberman held his sign aloft and displayed it enthusiastically.

Haberman said the ride's visit to the village had been a real "rush" for him. He enjoyed supporting an event aimed at doing good for people afflicted with a very serious disease.

"I had some much fun making that sign," he said. I know it would be a hit, it was a hit and it was a thrill."

[link to www.wiscnews.com]


That's really sad, all that enthusiasm for a cardboard sign.

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From Nancy....

quote
Due to the GLP server switchover, which has already started and could interrupt the chat, likely. And which is projected to last 10-12 hours.

See you next week folks!

Now.. what did I used to do with my Saturday nights, when I had them? Humm...
end quote

Well two hours of ZT is all Nancy does on Saturday nights, what a waste of a life....
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Seems Kurt is still in the forefront of attention seeking.


Sunday, January 24, 2010

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Mon Jul 21 2008
NORTH FREEDOM — About 1,500 motorcycle riders found a friendly reception in North Freedom Saturday afternoon as they rolled through the Sauk County landscape for the 23rd Muscular Dystrophy Association Freedom Ride.

Resident Kurt Haberman made a large sign with black and orange markers with the words "Go MDA Riders."

Haberman held his sign aloft and displayed it enthusiastically.

Haberman said the ride's visit to the village had been a real "rush" for him. He enjoyed supporting an event aimed at doing good for people afflicted with a very serious disease.

"I had some much fun making that sign," he said. I know it would be a hit, it was a hit and it was a thrill."

[link to www.wiscnews.com]


That's really sad, all that enthusiasm for a cardboard sign.
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

What's wrong with a little genuine ENTHUSIASN for a good cause???

Sometimes I wonder if you "debunkers" are even HUMAN sometimes?!!!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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Seems Kurt is still in the forefront of attention seeking.


Sunday, January 24, 2010

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Mon Jul 21 2008
NORTH FREEDOM — About 1,500 motorcycle riders found a friendly reception in North Freedom Saturday afternoon as they rolled through the Sauk County landscape for the 23rd Muscular Dystrophy Association Freedom Ride.

Resident Kurt Haberman made a large sign with black and orange markers with the words "Go MDA Riders."

Haberman held his sign aloft and displayed it enthusiastically.

Haberman said the ride's visit to the village had been a real "rush" for him. He enjoyed supporting an event aimed at doing good for people afflicted with a very serious disease.

"I had some much fun making that sign," he said. I know it would be a hit, it was a hit and it was a thrill."

[link to www.wiscnews.com]


That's really sad, all that enthusiasm for a cardboard sign.

What's wrong with a little genuine ENTHUSIASN for a good cause???

Sometimes I wonder if you "debunkers" are even HUMAN sometimes?!!!!!
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Learn to spell bonehead or at least get firefox and turn the spell check on.
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SlideLock (TM) could save MILLIONS of lives that will otherwise be needlessly and tragically LOST!!!

The DEBUNKERS have sabotaged its potential.

I wouldn't want their KARMA!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

How have we sabotaged the sale of your domes? Please explain that one.

You simply failed!!

I'm glad I don't have your KARMA!!
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What's wrong with a little genuine ENTHUSIASN for a good cause???

Sometimes I wonder if you "debunkers" are even HUMAN sometimes?!!!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

At least you finally stopped denying you're Nancy's son.
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What's wrong with a little genuine ENTHUSIASN for a good cause???
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All right. I'll have to agree with you on that. I'm not sure how holding up an innocuous sign at a Muscular Dystrophy Association rally is relevant to the discussion.
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Hey Melfy -- how are sales of the dome homes going these days?

No wonder you have so much time to post here.

SlideLock (TM) could save MILLIONS of lives that will otherwise be needlessly and tragically LOST!!!

The DEBUNKERS have sabotaged its potential.

I wouldn't want their KARMA!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


A design that hasn't even gotten past the patent and paper stage?
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What's wrong with a little genuine ENTHUSIASN for a good cause???

Sometimes I wonder if you "debunkers" are even HUMAN sometimes?!!!!!

At least you finally stopped denying you're Nancy's son.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

_absurd
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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SlideLock (TM) could save MILLIONS of lives that will otherwise be needlessly and tragically LOST!!!
The DEBUNKERS have sabotaged its potential.
I wouldn't want their KARMA!!!

You really think enough fearmongering on places like GLP
would have increased sales?

Really?
 Quoting: DrPostman

Because of your efforts, we'll never know.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
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SlideLock (TM) could save MILLIONS of lives that will otherwise be needlessly and tragically LOST!!!
The DEBUNKERS have sabotaged its potential.
I wouldn't want their KARMA!!!

You really think enough fearmongering on places like GLP
would have increased sales?

Really?

Because of your efforts, we'll never know.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

HAHAHA. What did we do to stop the development of this "technology" that would cost millions just to build a prototype? I think you are just trying to hide the fact that the project was unrealistically expensive and couldn't attract the kind of financial backing to perfect and produce anything that people would buy. As far as I can tell, nothing has been done with this project for years, so how exactly has this debunker thread started less than a year ago sabotaged it? Spin some more Max. LOL
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Because of your efforts, we'll never know.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Give us a break! They weren't even commercially viable. You hadn't even come up with a workable design. In addition, the number of people who actually follow Nancy on GLP is relatively small. What did you do to promote your domes in places OTHER than GLP? There were/are many other avenues that you could have used to advertise these domes. So, really, the only reason they failed was because of your efforts...or lack thereof. Your attempt to claim that it was our fault is just as weak as User claiming the deaths in Haiti are our fault and is nothing but more shilling from you.

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SlideLock (TM) could save MILLIONS of lives that will otherwise be needlessly and tragically LOST!!!
The DEBUNKERS have sabotaged its potential.
I wouldn't want their KARMA!!!

You really think enough fearmongering on places like GLP
would have increased sales?

Really?

Because of your efforts, we'll never know.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Read the bit by Ron Darby and you'll see that Kurt had a design and patent but no knowledge on how to manufacture the panels. Based on what I've read and looking at the patent, it would appear that even in mass production they would have been prohibitively expensive to produce. They weren't something like tilt-up construction which is relatively cheap and easy to produce.

The design appears to require precision casting and manual rework to make them feasible.

I have yet to see or find any engineering data to support the claims of the product. Where is the stress data?
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Hey...the wife and I are considering a weekend getaway to Albuquerque in a few weeks. Anyone here been there recently?
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Hey...the wife and I are considering a weekend getaway to Albuquerque in a few weeks. Anyone here been there recently?
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Considering taking your wife on your "business" trip?

dbunk
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Sorry, don't know Albuquerque.

By the by, who knows the lowdown on Nassim Haramein?





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