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>quote: Zetecult follower:
Yeah Gerard pointed it out, I imagine often how it would be in the near future:" You wake up in a community were everyone is your friend and cares the welfare of everyone...you do your best in your skills, and everyone else does so... :-D what a great opportunity the poleshift for the development on earth....The STO camps will build so beatuiful things in harmony with nature and living organisms. Teamwork the whole life, without selfish intentions and greedy STS-Vampires. Divide et imperi - Share and'll rule"
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That's just what I was referring to. Their lives must be so
fucked up that they dream of this post apocalyptic utopia
where no one hurts ever again and they can all sing Nancy's
praises (I've seen where she talks about touring the various
camps). It's the very people who dream of these utopias who,
when confronted with human nature, will probably be the first
to turn to violence or at the least histrionics if something
doesn't happen exactly the way they expect it to. And in
Nancy's scenario human nature will win out over these
fantasies. The "rule" part in the "share and rule" line is
interesting in how it exhibits a desire to have some control
in their lives. They want to feel like a ruler, because they
obviously don't have that feeling at all now. It's all about
some sort of compensation fantasy.

Somehow they really believe that only the unshelfish will be
the survivors after Nancy's scenario. It's what I call "magical
thinking".
 Quoting: DrPostman

clappa
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Must watch:

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Its the same as with all apocalypse driven cults. They are not willing to put in the work and effort to make this life in this world better for all. It's much easier to let everything implode and wait for off world intervention, be it from angels, god, ascended masters or aliens to create a brave new world.

They justify mass death by categorizing human beings into the worthy and righteous (STO) and the unworthy, soulless sinners (STS). They convince themselves that they are on the side of the good guys, it makes them feel special, superior to the bad guys, and entitled to a new life in a new world without heathens in it. They have to only believe to be chosen to rebuild the world.

Whether it's an organized religion or a cult like ZetaTalk, instead of reconciling our differences and learning to respect others as equals, there is an us vs them mentality with which they justify all sorts of injustice, tyranny and genocide in their crusade. ZetaTalk is no different than any other religion or cult that justifies the segregation and death of the unbelievers. Pathetic that in the 21st century we are still following these same primitive ideals that have led to the most horrendous atrocities against others over the centuries.
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It's the very people who dream of these utopias who,
when confronted with human nature, will probably be the first
to turn to violence or at the least histrionics if something
doesn't happen exactly the way they expect it to.
 Quoting: DrPostman



+1

The idea that the human race breaks cleanly into Pure STO and Evil STS is very naive to put it mildly.
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And, if anybody from Haiti has ever read this thread specifically and relaxed and believed the tripe spread here, then ALL OF YOU have some blood on your hands


You know. I've been thinking about this.

It seems to me that if anybody has "blood on their hands" it would be those of you who apparently believe you had prior knowledge of this latest earthquake and didn't warn anyone.

The evil PAID SHILLS have prevented this.

 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


Oh, you mean the evil shills who can't even prevent themselves from being banned by Nancy from the Saturday "chats"?

There was nothing from Nancy/Zetas the Saturday before warning the Haitians.

Nothing posted here before the fact from any of you who claim this earthquake was predicted.

Why? Because it wasn't. Something could have happened on the New Madrid, or Japan, or Italy or Cleveland and you would all be here dredging up the closest ZetaTalk references and saying the same thing.

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The evil PAID SHILLS have prevented this.

blackheart
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


And what exactly do you mean by "evil", Melfy?

Be specific with your answer because urkel anyday now bitch!!
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The idea that the human race breaks cleanly into Pure STO and Evil STS is very naive to put it mildly.
 Quoting: Henry Fnord


Yes it's totally nieve and totally stupid!!
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I'm pretty sure both Melfy and Luser were featured in today's www.peopleofwalmart.com roundup.

Melfy at least had on socks. But Luser -- oh Luser...
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LYING is FIRST nature for you Circuit Stupid, it seems.
 Quoting: User # 78/68

That's a laugh. The only people who lie are Nancy and her faithful merry band of flunkers. For instance, you claim we're paid to be here. Lie number one. You claim Hap is a fake even though you've never met him. Lie number two. You claim not to make assumptions, and yet do it all the time. Lie number three. Shall I continue?

Nancy Lieder NEVER talks about "this perfect utopia" you LIE about. She says it will be brutal and very harsh, but survivable in some cases.
 Quoting: User # 78/68

I wasn't referring to Nancy you dumb fuck. Did you not read the quote in the post I made? No, obviously not...all you saw was my post and then you got a boner and started frothing at the mouth.

You are a lying twerp, and you are well surrounded on this thread!
 Quoting: User # 78/68

Yeah, I'm well surrounded by people who know the real lying twerp is you numb nuts.
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175 vote NO. 109 vote YES. Don't look too good for GLP
believing in the wildly popular Zetatalk. Guess it
must be popular somewhere else, huh?
 Quoting: DrPostman

TRUTH is not a popularity contest.
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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The evil PAID SHILLS have prevented this.

blackheart


And what exactly do you mean by "evil", Melfy?

Be specific with your answer because urkel anyday now bitch!!
 Quoting: The Lone Ranger

It would be better for these DEBUNKER FOOLS foolmask if they simply retired from the arena - the damage they are doing to THEIR VERY SOULS is incalculable!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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TRUTH is not a popularity contest.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

No, but the truth is a majority of people don't believe what Nancy says.
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It would be better for these DEBUNKER FOOLS foolmask if they simply retired from the arena - the damage they are doing to THEIR VERY SOULS is incalculable!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


You make it perfectly clear you are definitely not a fence sitter. The only ones damaging their souls are people like you who are trying to convince people that a "rogue planet" is coming to wipe out 90% of life on Earth. I wonder how you sleep at night?

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TRUTH is not a popularity contest.

No, but the truth is a majority of people don't believe what Nancy says.
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Wasn't it Max that used to go on about how popular Nancy was and insisted it was an indication of the truth in her message? Max and his bunker buddies just can't help contradicting themselves and showing their hypocrisy.
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It would be better for these DEBUNKER FOOLS if they simply retired from the arena - the damage they are doing to THEIR VERY SOULS is incalculable!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


You know, Max, it seems to me ZetaTalk has all the disadvantages of a dogmatic religious cult without any of the benefits. You guys need to read up on L. Ron, Joseph Smith, Ramtha.
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175 vote NO. 109 vote YES. Don't look too good for GLP
believing in the wildly popular Zetatalk. Guess it
must be popular somewhere else, huh?

TRUTH is not a popularity contest.
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***


With that one sentence you've outed yourself for the umpteenth time as not being a "fence sitter".
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175 vote NO. 109 vote YES. Don't look too good for GLP
believing in the wildly popular Zetatalk. Guess it
must be popular somewhere else, huh?

TRUTH is not a popularity contest.


With that one sentence you've outed yourself for the umpteenth time as not being a "fence sitter".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 817765



It's the old "I'm open minded and not affiliated with this product in any way" ruse.

Classic "shill" tactic....going by the actual definition.
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Wasn't it Max that used to go on about how popular Nancy was and insisted it was an indication of the truth in her message? Max and his bunker buddies just can't help contradicting themselves and showing their hypocrisy.
 Quoting: KeepingItReal

Well, you can be hugely popular...but that doesn't mean that people like you, think you're right or even believe you. That's something that Nancy's attack dog Luser doesn't seem to grasp. He thinks that because Nancy is popular...it means that she is also believed. And I debate how popular she actually is. Yes, she's popular with certain people...but that doesn't make her the most popular person on GLP.
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Wasn't it Max that used to go on about how popular Nancy was and insisted it was an indication of the truth in her message? Max and his bunker buddies just can't help contradicting themselves and showing their hypocrisy.

Well, you can be hugely popular...but that doesn't mean that people like you, think you're right or even believe you. That's something that Nancy's attack dog Luser doesn't seem to grasp. He thinks that because Nancy is popular...it means that she is also believed. And I debate how popular she actually is. Yes, she's popular with certain people...but that doesn't make her the most popular person on GLP.
 Quoting: Circuit Breaker

CB can't refrain from "debunking" for even 24 hours. PATHETIC!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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CB can't refrain from "debunking" for even 24 hours. PATHETIC!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

And Nancy's son Kurt, aka ZetaMax, can't refrain from shilling for even 24 hours. I made three whole posts yesterday. So what's your point?

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Hey Melfy -- how are sales of the dome homes going these days?

No wonder you have so much time to post here.
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Wasn't it Max that used to go on about how popular Nancy was and insisted it was an indication of the truth in her message? Max and his bunker buddies just can't help contradicting themselves and showing their hypocrisy.

Well, you can be hugely popular...but that doesn't mean that people like you, think you're right or even believe you. That's something that Nancy's attack dog Luser doesn't seem to grasp. He thinks that because Nancy is popular...it means that she is also believed. And I debate how popular she actually is. Yes, she's popular with certain people...but that doesn't make her the most popular person on GLP.

CB can't refrain from "debunking" for even 24 hours. PATHETIC!!!ed
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

Maxi Kurt can't refrain from making an ass of himself for even a few hours, and he just can't leave this thread alone. Before you posted this there had been no posts at all to this thread for 16 hours. He just does't know what to do with himself if he can't bait debunkers. Thanks for the bump!
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These days, the ONLY way Melfy and Luser can get anyone to talk about Zetatalk is to come here and bait the debunkers.

Everyone else tells them to shut the fuck up.

It's no fun being the village idiots, is it, Melfy and Luser?
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Hey Melfy -- how are sales of the dome homes going these days?

No wonder you have so much time to post here.
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SlideLock (TM) could save MILLIONS of lives that will otherwise be needlessly and tragically LOST!!!

The DEBUNKERS have sabotaged its potential.

I wouldn't want their KARMA!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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In the words of Ron Darby
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Dome Projects

“Reading ZT or looking at the web site for Kurt's dome one gets the impression that much more has been accomplished than actually has. When I was first there Nancy was happy for me to work with Kurt. I accompanied Kurt to visit the only potential manufacturing company to learn of their process and what would be required from Kurt and to get ball-park pricing. Kurt's patent is limited to a variation of a "dove-tail" joint for interconnecting two panels. When I arrived Kurt had two prototype panels for the purpose of demonstrating the interlocking mechanism. The panels were flat instead of curved as would be required. The molding of these panels was done with rubber molds which could not meet the exacting tolerances required. These two panels would NOT slide together. To achieve the required tolerances would require two aluminum molds which cost about $8000 per mold; and two molds would be required for every horizontal "layer" of the dome. The panels are 1 foot square, so you can see that a pair of molds would be required for every foot of circumference divided by two. This places the cost of even a very small prototype in the millions of dollars.


I pointed out that absolutely no structural calculations had been done and the cost to accomplish this was never determined. I pointed out that even after structural modeling had been done mathematically, test panels would be required for destructive testing to ensure the structure wouldn't collapse of it's own weight.


After our visit to the manufacturer Kurt spent the better part of a year doing nothing but structural drawings (drafting). Usually late at night while smoking Kurt and I would brainstorm. The next day he would bring the results to his mom. Then the shit would hit the fan. She didn't want me corrupting Kurt's "creativity" with my silly engineering concerns. That's when she first told Kurt not to talk to me about the dome.


When Ichi came he said he had much money and would finance a prototype dome. Nancy was ecstatic and did everything she could to encourage Ichi ... even to offering to give him a piece of her property to build his personal dome.



The problem that Nancy couldn't control was that she always went to bed around 7pm and Kurt, Ichi, and I would sit in the basement all night talking about the dome among other things. As Ichi learned of my concerns and realized the real costs involved he realized that he didn't have but a small fraction of the cost of a prototype ... and with Nancy's "shortcuts" that the dome wouldn't likely even work. I felt it my "duty" to at least inform Ichi of my concerns and what I did know. Eventually, Ichi told Nancy he couldn't afford the prototype. At this point Nancy could no longer deny or ignore the fundamental costs of just the moulds.


Then Kurt and I brainstormed up to the day I left (behind Nancy's back) about ideas to modify the design to make it more producible. There were many times that Kurt really liked and wanted to incorporate my ideas but when Nancy learned the source she vetoed them. A couple months before I left any real work on the design had been discontinued and Kurt spent his time doing the only thing that he really know how to do, which was to use an old satellite dish as the platform to construct a model so photos could be produced and the floor plan could be shown.”

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Seems Kurt is still in the forefront of attention seeking.


Sunday, January 24, 2010

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Mon Jul 21 2008
NORTH FREEDOM — About 1,500 motorcycle riders found a friendly reception in North Freedom Saturday afternoon as they rolled through the Sauk County landscape for the 23rd Muscular Dystrophy Association Freedom Ride.

Resident Kurt Haberman made a large sign with black and orange markers with the words "Go MDA Riders."

Haberman held his sign aloft and displayed it enthusiastically.

Haberman said the ride's visit to the village had been a real "rush" for him. He enjoyed supporting an event aimed at doing good for people afflicted with a very serious disease.

"I had some much fun making that sign," he said. I know it would be a hit, it was a hit and it was a thrill."

[link to www.wiscnews.com]


That's really sad, all that enthusiasm for a cardboard sign.

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From Nancy....

quote
Due to the GLP server switchover, which has already started and could interrupt the chat, likely. And which is projected to last 10-12 hours.

See you next week folks!

Now.. what did I used to do with my Saturday nights, when I had them? Humm...
end quote

Well two hours of ZT is all Nancy does on Saturday nights, what a waste of a life....
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Seems Kurt is still in the forefront of attention seeking.


Sunday, January 24, 2010

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Mon Jul 21 2008
NORTH FREEDOM — About 1,500 motorcycle riders found a friendly reception in North Freedom Saturday afternoon as they rolled through the Sauk County landscape for the 23rd Muscular Dystrophy Association Freedom Ride.

Resident Kurt Haberman made a large sign with black and orange markers with the words "Go MDA Riders."

Haberman held his sign aloft and displayed it enthusiastically.

Haberman said the ride's visit to the village had been a real "rush" for him. He enjoyed supporting an event aimed at doing good for people afflicted with a very serious disease.

"I had some much fun making that sign," he said. I know it would be a hit, it was a hit and it was a thrill."

[link to www.wiscnews.com]


That's really sad, all that enthusiasm for a cardboard sign.
 Quoting: Prof_Rabbit

What's wrong with a little genuine ENTHUSIASN for a good cause???

Sometimes I wonder if you "debunkers" are even HUMAN sometimes?!!!!!
The best advice we can give on this matter is to read with your heart as well as your mind. Follow the flow, let the nuances lie unanswered and unchallenged in your mind. Treat this as a garden you are walking through for the first time, and experience it fully without trying to categorize it! Much of what you will learn will be processed in your subconscious, and influence your conscious mind later. If you must dissect each phrase, and correlate it with each piece of information taken from another source, you will trash much of what you could otherwise gain. Live in the gray, not always insisting on black and white and strict compartmentalizations.

ZetaTalk: Oahspe Note: written Apr 15, 1997.
 [link to www.zetatalk.com] 

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Seems Kurt is still in the forefront of attention seeking.


Sunday, January 24, 2010

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Mon Jul 21 2008
NORTH FREEDOM — About 1,500 motorcycle riders found a friendly reception in North Freedom Saturday afternoon as they rolled through the Sauk County landscape for the 23rd Muscular Dystrophy Association Freedom Ride.

Resident Kurt Haberman made a large sign with black and orange markers with the words "Go MDA Riders."

Haberman held his sign aloft and displayed it enthusiastically.

Haberman said the ride's visit to the village had been a real "rush" for him. He enjoyed supporting an event aimed at doing good for people afflicted with a very serious disease.

"I had some much fun making that sign," he said. I know it would be a hit, it was a hit and it was a thrill."

[link to www.wiscnews.com]


That's really sad, all that enthusiasm for a cardboard sign.

What's wrong with a little genuine ENTHUSIASN for a good cause???

Sometimes I wonder if you "debunkers" are even HUMAN sometimes?!!!!!
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Learn to spell bonehead or at least get firefox and turn the spell check on.
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SlideLock (TM) could save MILLIONS of lives that will otherwise be needlessly and tragically LOST!!!

The DEBUNKERS have sabotaged its potential.

I wouldn't want their KARMA!!!
 Quoting: ***ZetaMax***

How have we sabotaged the sale of your domes? Please explain that one.

You simply failed!!

I'm glad I don't have your KARMA!!
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